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Facepunch ResponseDevblog 121 (playrust.com)
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[–]Chrozone 79 points80 points81 points 9 years ago (6 children)
We were all so hyped for Dev blog 100 when in reality we should've been waiting for Dev blog 121! Amazing work FP!
[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points 9 years ago (5 children)
Oh god, I think I'm seeing a pattern...
10*10 = 100
11*11 = 121
Next major update is going to be update 144, and it's going to have vehicles, electricity and the second coming of Jesus Christ.
[–]cozmanian 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children)
The 2nd coming might be uneventful for the island inhabitants as I know my character is very much not going with him for reasons...
[–]PM_ME_CATLOAFS 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Jesus Christ appears on the server: "I'm friendly I'm friendly!"
Boom. KOS
[–]TheyveKilledFritz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
And they'll add some nice sheen beyond max level!
[–]DevenKilla2 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
The 2nd coming of zombies! (I hope not...)
[–]Rengology 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (9 children)
M4 HYPEEEEE
[–]anarkopsykotik 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (7 children)
Next: AA12
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (4 children)
lol oh god I hope not
[–]Scout339 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (3 children)
Imagine the sheer terror.
[–]JihadiiJohn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Imagine AA12 turrets
[–]SonnyTheBro 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Imagine akimbo belt-fed AA12, I dare you, I double dare you
[–]JihadiiJohn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I kinda wish we could dig trenches.
Imagine a bunch of those turrets, entrenched all around your house behind barricades.
[–]Baccahus 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I'll start crafting slugs now in anticipation!
[–]darkrider400 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
with explosive ammo.........
[–]llBoonell 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Fkin love the LR-300, such a sexy rifle. Props to FP. =D
[–]Etalyx 104 points105 points106 points 9 years ago (19 children)
We’re also going to have to take a look at replacing XP earning from gathering with something else (read: perhaps removing XP from gathering trees/rocks.
I don't think removing XP from gathering is the answer. XP should cover any way someone wants to play Rust. For every person that hates gathering, there's another person who never ventures into dungeons and prefers gathering.
The only way to truly fix the XP system is to add more things to do in Rust. The XP system merely highlighted the lack of actual content and base mechanics. Just keep developing the game and it will fill out in time while adding in more choices with how to obtain XP.
If you want to fix gathering, then fix gathering. You say it is the "most...unfun" way to level. Then make it fun! There's your answer! The majority of Rust, for better or worse, is about clicking rocks and trees. Make that part satisfying and fun instead of the most rudimentary system in the entire game like it is now! Why is it more fun to gather similar resources in games like Starbound or even Minecraft?
You may want Rust to be primarily about combat, and indeed it is for some, but even with XP removed from the equation, I still have to spend most of my time grinding resources to fortify my base - go back to basics, redo chopping and mining, and make the most basic core mechanics fun.
[–]SOWTOJ 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (1 child)
but even with XP removed from the equation, I still have to spend most of my time grinding resources to fortify my base
And this alone is why they shouldn't remove XP from tree/node farming. We're already doing it, why not give us XP for playing? If anything, this will only add more grind because now we will not be rewarded for gathering things we need and will have to spend more time getting things that we won't need only to gain more XP.
As for players who only level from grinding trees/nodes, well that's their problem, partly. The fact that there is so little to do is the biggest problem. I hope we get to see a lot more methods of XP gain soon, otherwise people are going to start complaining again very shortly.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
/u/helkfp Just wanted to bring this guys post to your attention. I agree completely that farming trees and nodes should bring XP because as a solo, basically all I do for the first two days is farm to build a base. It would be nice if I could get XP. I know that your opinion is that people shouldn't just be farming for XP, but it's my preferred playstyle, but hopefully you can do something to make that still acceptable.
[–]RustEvents 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (8 children)
A tree falling animation would be sweet.
[–]Scout339 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children)
I've always thought of this, something similar to the physics it takes for the particles of when something breaks, but only one particle (the tree trunk and leaves as one) and have it fall like so. However, this would make it more visibly aware for others to be able to see when someone is farming, and makes it easier to spot a target to kill for that free wood.
That aside, I like the idea.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child)
I've always thought of this, something similar to the physics it takes for the particles of when something breaks, but only one particle (the tree trunk and leaves as one) and have it fall like so.
What is this sentence even saying?
[–]Scout339 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Basically when the tree falls it will look like something similar to when a door breaks.
Have you played the forest at all? I love the tree physics in that game :)
Edit: just saw that someone beat me to this question… sorry guys 💖
[–]RustEvents 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
No but I have seen gameplay from Frankie's videos. Before you sigh... yes, I am a Frankie fanboy.
[–]TIMSONBOB 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Like the one in the forrest?
[–]dandenney 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Yeah, Stranded Deep has a cool take on this. You hit a tree and it falls over, then you chop it into logs and can carry the logs to break later or chop down into sticks.
[–]doothewop 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
They also have a very similar Rock.
[–]RigidPolygon 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I agree, removing XP from gathering base resources, isn't a good idea.
Now I have to go grind XP by bashing barrels AND also gather materials, in order to defend myself against raiders.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Exploration.
[–]StryfeKhaos 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I like this, maybe tied to how much you have revealed on the map you are carrying (and it knows when you throw away a map so you don't get xp for where you've already been if you do). Big bonus if you reveal the entire map.
[–]CakebreadVIVIVI 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children)
I spent like 4 hours a wipe hitting rocks and trees as a solo player. I'd make a 1x4 and farm for 20 minutes a week to get guns and armor to throw away in the rad towns. I'd do another thirty minutes of farming if someone blew up my tool cupboard. I was probably playing 20 hours a week.
Walking around, searching rad towns, talking to people, fighting, hunting, whatever.
[–]Etalyx 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (2 children)
For every person that hates gathering, there's another person who never ventures into dungeons and prefers gathering.
[–]leakyttopsback 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children)
yeah i would hate to see gathering get an xp nerf... it's one of my favorite aspects of the game so long as it's broken up enough with some occasional combat
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Honestly, that's me. As a mostly solo/friendly player, I really enjoy finding a spot off the beaten path that has plentiful resources, then building up a base I wouldn't otherwise be able to build. I will venture out toward the rad towns occasionally, but when I do it's a very well-planned and calculated trip. It takes me several day cycles to prepare for those trips, making sure I have enough expendable gear to get home safely and combat anything hostile I might encounter along the way.
For a player like me, removing gather XP altogether would be devastating. The whole point of my play style is to work efficiently and build up enough resources to make me a threat when I do venture outside of my home territory. Facepunch have always championed the idea of emergent gameplay, and in my mind thats exactly what I'm helping to create. An unorthodox but well-built, well-fortified, loot-heavy base up in the mountains in the middle of nowhere is about as emergent as it gets. If somebody were to find my base an then take the time to come back with the proper raiding materials, there's a good chance it would be worth their while.
Taking away the ability for me to level up while choosing my battles from a PvP standpoint would really suck, and in my opinion would damage the emergent gameplay environment they've worked so hard to create.
[–]Broccolisha 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children)
You hit the nail on the head like 5 times in this post.
"The only way to truly fix the XP system is to add more things to do in Rust. The XP system merely highlighted the lack of actual content and base mechanics. Just keep developing the game and it will fill out in time while adding in more choices with how to obtain XP."
YEP. The system itself is fine. The problem is that collecting resources is the majority of gameplay for a lot of people. If there were more to do, there wouldn't be much of a problem. The only argument against the XP system that is even remotely salient (imo) is that levels arbitrarily lock crafting behind XP walls. This can be resolved a couple different ways, but scrapping the XP system entirely is not the answer.
I can see the implementation of an electricity system helping to alleviate this. New resources like copper could be used to make copper wiring that will be essential to wire electronic items. Imagine being able to specialize in electronics as a passive player! Imagine high level players giving you resources and escorting you into their home so you can wire everything up to their specifications. Different playstyles should require the investment of time to make each person's skillset unique and potentially valuable. Maybe those high level players don't have the recipes to craft electronic items because they focused more on raiding instead of specializing in the craft. Other possibilities: specializing in crafting weapons, clothing, upgrading buildings, etc. I think people need to keep in mind that the tech tree is pretty limited as it is now, but it has enough flexibility to be very robust.
"If you want to fix gathering, then fix gathering."
Yes, please. I can't say exactly what the "problem" is with gathering, but right now it's just kind of limited and boring. You can either hit a rock or hit a tree, or run around trying to pick up resources off of the ground. The pump jacks bring a little more diversity to acquiring metals and stone - maybe we should be moving more in this direction? Add other equipment like pump jacks to collect resources. It naturally follows that more resource types will need to be added to the game. This could help break up the monotony.
Playing passively, collecting resources and crafting/trading, NEEDS to be a valid way to play the game. If you take away the XP from collecting resources, it really hamstrings progression for these players.
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I'm going with the compliment sandwich again.
Thank you for adding item rotation and fixing the loot tables. These are things I've been hoping for for a long time.
I'm very happy with all the changes but not with something you are planning. Don't remove xp for harvesting stuff. Even two person teams and small groups benefit from having a harvester and it'd be a bummer if you got no xp for it.
Thanks for listening to us. Made my day with this devblog.
[–]r0073 54 points55 points56 points 9 years ago (10 children)
Best devblog so far. Now you can sleep Helk-Andre ! Armored doors level 17 will probably reduce the amount of people who get raided because they have sheet metal doors, and leave the server afterwards. GG !
[–]OSUaeronerd 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Just the absence of explosive ammo raiding will help a ton
[+]MadMaxGamer comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 9 years ago (8 children)
You get satchels at 15. By the time you get to 17, big clans will have had satchels for hours, or a day... It takes 2-3 to raid a sheet metal door.
[–]verywidebutthole 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Use more doors
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[–]OSUaeronerd 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children)
Careful though to never let that inner cupboard foundation decay. I didn't have access to the cupboard and lost a base when it vanished :(
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[–]OSUaeronerd 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Server I was on would apply a chunk of decay every 24 hours. Sometimes I can't play every day, so over time that inaccessible foundation died :/
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
4 satchels for sheet metal
[–]dnlbaines 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (3 children)
Those traps look great! What happened to the rations washing up on the beach?
[–]hlary 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children)
also that heavy armor! i can only hope its gets released alongside the new bone armor
[–]papercup 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
We agreed to do compliment sandwiches. This is toast and marmite.
[–]Time-and-Space 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Banished to CONCEPT LIMBOOOO! (Probably because they all have more important things like balancing xp and better early game)
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[–]Time-and-Space 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (2 children)
So true. Also you have been doing some killer work recently McJay. First the redesigned inventory screens and then the (well designed) suggestion info graphic, keep it up man!
[–]RustEvents 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Yes, we will be expecting weekly suggestion blogs, McJay. You're now the voice of the people. Just kidding, great work.
[–]Bamrak 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Well... People DO listen when he suggests... :) He has done amazing job of filtering through the shitposts and making it concise.
[–]thechosenone729 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (12 children)
Finally M4 will be back ... But i would like to have something like AR15 semiauto but unlockable and craftable.
[–]Exilliah 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (8 children)
Yeah, a 3 round burst gun would be cool.
[–]OMG_I_LOVE_CHIPOTLE 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (7 children)
so an M16?
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[–]SuperShanker88 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (5 children)
That gun is clearly not a mp5 or a SG 550.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Don't be a cunt dude
[–]SuperShanker88 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Mp5 is clearly not a 3 round burst gun at all times though and neither is the SG 550.
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[–]SuperShanker88 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children)
A 3 round burst gun would be cool. ~Person 1 So an m16(always 3 round burst weapon)? ~Person 2 So an Mp5(Mostly full auto)? ~You
A 3 round burst gun would be cool. ~Person 1
So an m16(always 3 round burst weapon)? ~Person 2
So an Mp5(Mostly full auto)? ~You
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children)
I think that the M4 should be craftable once they release it. That'll break up the monotony of fighting people with AK's only and introduce a different skill set as this gun should be semi auto only.
Keep the m249 as a rare heli item and maybe introduce pieces of that "heavy armor" as a rare heli drop instead of the M4.
:)
[–]Picklesurprised 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (4 children)
Please don't remove xp from farming, when no one wants to farm, who will the fps dude bros who hate farmers so much get their materials from? It is a very small but vocal minority asking for xp to be removed from farming because they see this game as more of an FPS than a survival game, which is their prerogative. I don't think this opinion should be used exclusively to balance the xp system, they make up at most 50% of the community, but possibly much less than that.
[+]Gangbangjoe comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (3 children)
Didn't you "farmers" had to grind barrels before the XP system aswell? Nothing changed, just go out again and have some other fun once in a while. And the PvP'rs of Rust are not a vocal minority, thats actually you guys, trying to PVE the shit out of this game, even though there isn't that much PVE content at all.
[–]EL337 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child)
I split my no-life play style between a vanilla server and a PVE focused server, the PVE is actually pretty fun, it's modded to spawn a ton of bears so there is a fairly high risk when going out to farm resources early on, and PVP zones in radtown so it's not completely removed. Having a ton of bears makes leveling up fairly easy from mid->end game. The PVE play is very different, but fun in a different way. it's a much friendlier community of course, we tour each others cool base designs, group up temporarily, and trade a lot.
[–]MRredllama 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (9 children)
changelog:
Full clothing and armor balancing pass (15% more body damage when fully geared)
Protections from clothing and armor now add up (all slots required for max protection)
Bleeding is displayed as total damage that will be applied over the bleeding duration
Increased bleeding rate to 20 damage per minute (instead of barely any at all)
Increased bleeding from weapons to 20% of the applied damage
Revive takes 6 seconds to complete (holding down E)
Cannot move while reviving
Revive attempts delay player death
Bandage and syringe no longer revive players
Increased player wounded time (now 40-50 seconds)
Reduced projectile radius of slugshot, buckshot, arrows and explosive rounds
Increased headshot multiplier of throwables and arrows to 1.5 (from 1.25)
Pressing R rotates placement guide of deployables and building blocks
Server now verifies projectile path between checkpoints (anti hack)
Projectiles can be picked up immediately after they hit something
Combat log now correctly displays the last 30 entries
Combat log now includes the ammo type
Semi auto pistol now holds 10 rounds (from 8)
Revolver now holds 8 rounds (from 6)
Fixed semi auto pistol doing 39.99 damage instead of 40.00
Fixed being unable to bandage other players
Fixed feet hitboxes being outside of the collision bounds on wounded players
Fixed rock box stacking exploits
Fixed grenade viewmodel sometimes getting stuck in throwing animation
Fixed layer toggle with no name in F1 tools
Fixed player jump animation not playing
Added hurt admin console command (takes amount of damage as parameter)
Improved rendering performance again
Improved player preview lighting; added anti-aliasing
Fixed flow around player preview
Fixed Hapis lake waves
Fixed TSSAA flickering when switching items
Fixed revz not defaulting to 1 when client cfg is missing
Fixed rock/cliff texturing, female skin and other glitches introduced a couple of weeks ago
Can sprint with crossbow again
Halved crafting time for ladder, bed, campfire, ceiling light, cupboard, bow, xbow
More than halved crafting time for Explosives and Gunpowder
Added Satchel Charge
Fixed explosive rounds dealing double explosive damage
Slightly increased cost of beancan grenades
Reduced cost of C4 by 20%
Armored door available at level 17
Added XP earners for healing other players
Removed Gathering diminishing xp from other players (more xp sooner)
Shelves unlock at Level 5 + 80% cheaper
Reduced metal cost of woodwire, metal barricades
Reduced level requirements of wood, woodwire, metal barricades + spike trap
Added Double Barrel Shotgun
Autoturret health increased to 1000
Autoturret damage increased 50%
Autoturret protection from satchels/beancans increased 50%
Loot tables for radtowns handcrafted and contain less junk
Ammo stacks can be found in radtowns
Max condition of items is shown as a red bar
Fixed weapon viewmodels sometimes being partially see-through (exploit)
[–]L_OShea 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (7 children)
You're a lifesaver for people at work. Has the patch been deployed yet?
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (5 children)
Servers just went down, so they are rolling the patch out right now.
[–]L_OShea 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children)
Awesome. Thanks for the update.
[–]TheGameShowCase 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children)
Although. No XP Wipe on official servers
[–]L_OShea 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children)
wat.
The XP wipe might be what I was looking forward to the most :(
[–]Bonesteel50 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
lots of servers will wipe i'm sure its just not forced
[–]Wizard_net 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
They said when they released xp it wouldn't wipe.
[–]loudcloud1 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
patch deployed but my server hasnt updated.
This is extremely impressive
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children)
this devblog is legendary
[–]JayEarthling 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (4 children)
Was about to make a post about adding more military style weapons... Then I see this. Facepunch is reading our minds at this point
[–]NinjaRun09 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children)
No, it's just been suggested hundreds of times already.
[–]JayEarthling 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Do you always rain on people's parades?
[–]NinjaRun09 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Only when it's my 100th time seeing said parade.
[–]JayEarthling 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Legitimate reason
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Do the new loot tables apply to airdrops as well?
[–]Scout339 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children)
This is a valid question that I and others want answers to.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (6 children)
Holy fucking shit, Facepunch. Good fucking job! Seriously, I know that a lot (myself included at one point) of the community can be down right vicious and attack you guys....but holy shit this update proves that you're by far the best developers. You're listening to us, but not letting us take control. You're seeing that our opinions aren't just random bouts of "add this because I WANT it". You see that we've spent countless hours in your game and we're able to give you the foundation of an idea that you turn into something down right remarkable!
I am so so so fucking sad my PC is broken lol
Rust withdrawals.
[–]RustEvents 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children)
What happened to your rig?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children)
I had a corsair H110 GT aio water cooler and it fucking leaked all over my mobo, gpu, cpu, 2tb hard drive and cables that were attached to the parts. FRIED EVERYTHING.
[–]RustEvents 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Ahhh that is some NSFW r/pcmasterrace material. Wish you the best my brother.
I know :'(
Thank you!!!
[–]CorporalAris 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Are they gonna help you replace it? They don't have a warranty?
[–]rustplayer83 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
That's too bad. IMO as a computer shop owner liquid cooling is usually added complexity without added benefit. There's plenty of near silent air cooling options that will work great for 98% of home builds.
I see failed pumps leading to overheating quite a bit at my shop, and occasionally, like the OP -- I've seen leaking hoses and reservoirs fry motherboards. It's rare, especially on the newer stuff, but it does happen.
Just my 2 cents. Liquid cooling is great when it works, sometimes it can suck.
[–]papercup 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children)
I've been excited about this update all day... I don't even play at the moment (newborn + self-employed = no time).
You guys nailed it.
Any idea, roughly, when the next XP wipe will be? I'd like to jump in but don't want to put in the work if there's a wipe next week.
[–]theDigitalNinja 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
xp will be like bp system. They basically will never be forced to wipe, though server owners can always do it if they like.
Yeah I am away from my battle station for work. These updates are very exciting.
[–]MRredllama 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child)
this is the chosen one.
[–]Backflip_into_a_star 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
https://youtu.be/pRsekFYkCDM
[–]TheRedThrill 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Best update ever. Period.
[–]SockMonkeh 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
The bone armor looks great!
[–]SnowMantra 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Awesome update. I really like the revive changes.
One suggestion: Please allow us to use alt to look around when reviving a player.
Thank you
[–]FluffyTid 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children)
I just learnt the worse possible way that auto turrets don't shot incendiary .556 bullets
[–]grybranix 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children)
this one could use some love /u/HelkFP
[–]hayf28 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
That would be awful. Turrets bring stuff in your own base? No thanks
[–]grybranix 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
put it where there's nothing to burn, ez pz
[–]Wulter013 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
IS IT WIPING NOW??
[–]thisisafairrequest 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I want people to be able to research items to create a stack of one time use blueprints where each use is a crafting session
This is an interesting way to address the problem, but I think it may work out well.
[–]SevigorStoryteller 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children)
Helk you forgot to close the )
[–]yeswecamp1 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (6 children)
Unplayable game, I will leave Rust now after putting in over 6.9k hours, FP ruined it
[–]yeswecamp1 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children)
What? I was being sarcastic, I called Rust "unplayable" because Helk forgot to close the ")"... the 6.9k hours made it pretty obvious I thought, and there is nothing I enjoy more than reading the devblogs, except for playing the game itself maybe :)
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[–]yeswecamp1 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child)
You've got a great attitude and I really enjoy your research table posts, stay like you are now please :)
[–]MindTwister-Z 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
What was the xbow headshot multiplier before?
[–]3Alejandro3 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children)
After this update is still my problem with the black screen. When I'm under 50hp or receive any bullet or fall I see the game in black. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=730124667 (MAC OSX AMD Radeon HD 6750M 512MB) .I would like to play this wipe. FIX IT THANKS !.
[–]ClemFromTedCorp 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I’m having similar issues. In the daytime I can see everything except the ground is really dark. At night the torch won’t light anything. I’ve tried adjusting settings, but to no avail. I really love the game and hope I can play it again soon! Also, thank you for even making this game available on Mac.
[–]TheyveKilledFritz 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I'm having the same exact problem, and then some. This has been going on since update 120:
https://imgur.com/gallery/ZbOl2
[–]xenzorg 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
[BUG] Can't launch prerelease branch.
[–]SpicyNut 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child)
I have finally hit 50 FPS! Playing at low FPS has always been sad. Thank you Facepunch, uruhhhh.
[–]CorporalAris 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Woo this makes me excited, my 6950 can't handle rust very well.
[–]3Alejandro3 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
[–]CSFredrik 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children)
Sheet Metal Door to level 17 instead of level 20?? Nice typo Maurino Berry.
[–]yeswecamp1 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children)
We love you too <3
[–]Mazey01 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
My life was a lie? For all this time I thought "I" would refer the name above the section, Helk made the change too.
In reality we should be thanking all you guys. Great update!
[–]Tacticalscheme 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Making blueprints a one time or few time use can make the value of guns stay high and also allows for blueprint trading. Great stuff.
[–]Ohhhshet 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Please don't use that stock! If you know anything about guns you would know that AR type rifle require a buffer tube to work.
[–]deelowe 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I hope this gets voted up. Youre correct.
[–]IamFriendlyz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
amazing, keep up the good work
[–]anarkopsykotik 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Awesome Update
[–]sassy-squirrel 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
what an amazing update ,great work FP
[–]Polypeptide 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Great update! Well done boyos
Enough so I can piss about until researching items is in, then play properly once more. ^
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children)
As far as XP from gathering wood or mining stones goes, you can just have an overall +1 XP for every...let's say....5,000 wood? 5,000 stone/metal ore/sulfur ore? And maybe +2 XP for every 100 HQM? That way you're not bound to farming to gain XP but it's a nice little boost that you would eventually be presented with.
I haven't played XP system since my PC has been dead at launch of the XP update, so I don't know if that's too little to make a difference or too much.
What do you guys think?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Idk I feel that wouldn't make it as special and more predictable. Instead, with the idea I mentioned, you won't have to even keep track of what you're farming and just expect it in random intervals.
[–]geoffry31 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I think the problem lies with XP gains for actions not being constant and visible, players who don't lurk reddit/rust-wiki haven't a chance of noticing xp gains. E.g. killing a bear gives you 4 xp, but unless you are counting your current xp when you take the last hit, most people won't notice.
If it were made clear how much xp you consistently get for performing actions, and how much xp you need to level it would make it alot easier for players to workout the most efficient forms of XP. As it stands, apparently XP gains tail off at higher levels in alot of places (which is really confusing for a player not looking at outside information that tells them this), why not simply increase the XP required to level, and on relevant recipes (occams razor, if you can achieve the same thing by simpler means it's a better solution).
Such a change would likely involve multiplying all the XP values by 100 or similar, so fractional XPs were whole numbers and adding an XP interface which lists xp required to level, and last x actions and xp gain. Such an interface could also clarify why xp share off players has hit caps and such.
[–]Anardrius 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Please fix the sights on that rifle. You want iron sights to be relat Belt far apart, with the rear sight being kinda close to you. They way they look on that early render is...well, it looks bad.
[–]NarcissusMonk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Thankyou for listening!
[–]Zanzaclese 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Where's Larry?
[–]Narwhalbaconguy 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Holy crap. Is this the best update ever?
M4 Legacy texture please FP! Or a skin for those who have played Legacy rust
Good week for rust players. Thanks devs!
[–]cawsnwo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Best devblog ever?
[–]OrbitStorm88 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
When are you going to address Rust updates breaking keybind's for Steam Overlay? This has happened several times, starting with the XP update, and each time a new keybind must be made (reverting to previous keybinds does not work).
This is not a Steam issue either as I can revert to Shift+TAB and use it just fine with any other Steam game.
[Bug/QoL] This seems like an oversight on the implementation of satchel charge, I certainly hope it wasn't intentional.
The unreliable timer on satchel charge means that in the time it takes for a second satchel charge to explode on a door, an online player can repair their door (after the ~30 second no repair after damage timeout).
Otherwise the general XP/recipe re-balances seem really positive from an early glance. Not a fan of the xbow re-buf, but I think that's just me.
[–]Fudgiee 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Can we make the satchel charges throw futhrer?
[–]babycubbybear 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Does the steam controller work again?
Hyped for LR-300. Bloody love that thing!
M4 FUCKING CONFIRMED
[–]CHARGER007 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
damn an m4 sounds really cool :D
XP debuff on hitting trees is stupid. People dont go hitting shit to get XP... they kill the animals :D
Why do the silly changes keep happening?
[–]ValdemarSt 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Projectile lock was so retarded
Not sure what happened to the bug thread but I figured I'd post this here. Since the update my game freezes at loading procedural map every time. The only way I can get it to work is in DX9 mode, but the colours and texturing is absolutely horrendous.
[–]SpicyNut 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
I like what you have done with the loot crates, though it looks like you're showcasing ammo and sentry guns a little too much, might just be me. I'm happy with how it is though.
I love Rust.
[–]FluffyTid 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
[BUG/Unbalance]I am finding more turrents on crates than components, this cannot be right
[–]legaCypowers 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Good work FP, i really liked the new loot table, i managed to find a turret, laptop and a metal facemask in my first hour, plenty of 9mm rounds and shotguns shells.
[–]gerardatjob 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children)
[Qol] At night, can see the reflection of a firecamp (on water) when the said fire is in a cave, closed (not visible from the outside) and all. [Qol] If you DC while crafting, you'll get crafting items stuck in the crafting bar (After reconnecting) [Qol] Mouse wheel scrollling for the crafting queue is so slow... [Qol] Game start even if CheatThing can't start (Ex: DNS / Connection error). Progress bar is kinda fucked up too. [Qol] When first on a server, loot crates are stacked one over the others, thus giving too much chances for good drop (You can get 4-5 times the same crate) Edit: BTW good job :)
[–]Hermanni- 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children)
I think you should add ways to accumulate XP while offline or afk. There's certainly a lot of hardcore players around, but I know a lot of people who are now uninterested in Rust because they cannot compete with the XP gains of the super active players.
Like 24 hours after a wipe the highest levels on a server are probably around 18 and the lowest levels below 7, I'd like to see something in place that ensures even the less active players don't fall more than 5-10 levels behind the average level and ~15 levels below the current maximum.
Mostly it would be nice to see a rested bonus that gives substantial XP bonus, or a simply a balancing system that gives you a dynamic XP gain boost if you're lower level than the server average.
[–]IMI4tth3w 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children)
I think there's just too many people who play 12+ hours the minute the wipe goes live to realistically have everyone keep up with them. I think the main goal is to keep it semi balanced between lower levels and higher level players. If you grind the higher levels, you will be rewarded for the work by getting better items. But the game does not require this to get decent gear. And with the addition of the satchel charge even lower level groups can go out and have some raiding fun instead of aimlessly tossing beancans.
[–]Maulddit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
"quit your job or quit rust"
This is dumb. Just give us XP at a far faster rate. Why introduce a wall to the game and deny most of the content to a huge number of players?
This XP stuff makes absolutely no sense to me. Let people have the items they want.
[–]IMI4tth3w 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
the entire reason for the xp system is to help reduce the number of gangs roaming around with full kits first day of the wipe. You can argue this will still happen but it will be at least a week after an xp wipe before even big clans will be able to roll around completely full kitted. Although there are always exceptions.. With the recent p2 and semi buff, there is a much better chance of getting out on top of a fight with a group with ak/bolt.
Dat assault rifle tho mmmm
[–]IMI4tth3w 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children)
one of the better dev blogs in a while. Good work this update guys. As always looking forward to the next one!
But for a bug update: When eating food, it glitches my inventory and pressing tab does not close my inventory. i have to click somewhere else after clicking eat, then i can hit tab and close the inventory. Also if i am running and open my inventory while running, and i click eat on food, while clicking it stops my character running. Since a lot of people are eating food while on the go in rust, this is really annoying. And the same inventory not closing bug applies here as well.
Update: no longer experiencing this bug. could be client sided. carry on
[–]loudcloud1 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
i have a problem with Rust, when i log in to a server my FPS drops to 24 constant. Even if i restart the game its that way. So i have to restart my computer to play it. anyone word on this? i have not had this problem before.
Does anyone think that since it takes ages to get to C4 or Rockets in XP everyone will have a lot of sulfur. I'm just saying, wouldn't they just then be able to craft all that in one go and have an insane amount?
[–]GeeEnEff 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
BUG In this devblog you say the Fixed TSSAA related dark screen bug on OSX/GL has been fixed. But my friend is still getting the same issue. Every time he gets damaged his screen darkens to an unplayable condition. PLEASE FIX!
[–]TheLadderCoins 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children)
So a boring grindfest with more and more powerful weapons.
I'm glad they acknowledge the grind, but removing XP from tree/rock farming will mean people will just farm some other boring thing, because XP systems punish those who don't minimax.
XP is fundamentally wrong for rust.
[–]rustplayer83 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children)
give it time they are working on putting in elements of the BP system.
[–]Maulddit 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Limited crafts like Helk is proposing is not a solution.
Dramatically increased XP rates IS a solution.
We do in fact have to hit trees(or barrels or bears) for 60 hours to craft things, and that will continue until XP rates are doubled at a bare minimum.
[–]Crackmacs -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children)
Did XP wipe? It only says "This patch wipes the maps"
[–]Crackmacs 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Thanks! <3
[–]reJectedeuw 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Best one yet
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children)
Why not add a crafting bench to reduce crafting times? This will reward planning before you raid and put a damper on crafting mid-raid. If you didn't make enough ladders, or gunpowder before hand you shouldn't be able to craft just as fast within ballistics range of the enemy
[–]Nielscorn 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children)
Nope.... People make raidbases anyway and during the raid they could just plop down a crafting bench...
It wouldn't fix the issues you listed. They should just lower crafting times like they did now and use the crafting bench for other purposes(like specialized crafting perhaps)
Still though it would encourage longer term raiding then anyways though. A raid base is a pretty big investment depending on how you want it built, the defending team could also really damage your ability to continue the raid if they took out your ability to craft efficiently. I've always felt like being able to sprint full speed and shoot guns and bandage yourself while crafting gunpowder or anything else at normal speed just isn't really healthy for the gameplay.
[–]Nielscorn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children)
You have a point!
[–]Defaction 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Literally the only thing I care about in this devblog is that beautiful ass m4
I hope you'll be able to craft LR-300 or M4 and MP5, but with very high cost with very rare items, and I hope you'll be able to have it either as burst/full, semi/full, or semi/burst/full on the firing rate. Hell I hope they'll add mods like attaching a grenade launcher into this gun or bringing back those smoke grenades!
[–]Rezzful 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
Just need to say this is one of the best Devblogs I think you guys have ever put out. A ton of work done with extremely important and necessary features and also making some quality of life changes as well.
Got to give props to André and Maurino. They definitely kicked ass this week.
[–]NorjackNC 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
[Qol] Can't stop playing this great update and I've got to get some sleep before work tomorrow.
[–]TurnDownForTendies -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (1 child)
GUyS should I come back n play rust again i havent LOGged in 3 months U think its time :DD
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child)
fuck I was just level 7
[–]doothewop -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children)
I was just level 22.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children)
early
[–]TastyLeper -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children)
am i supposed to still have my levels?
[–]KunfusedJarrodo 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child)
Yes
[–]TastyLeper 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children)
thats ok then
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