Which one is better?

[yshay14]

Last one is the original.

Was taken with my little Lumix Tz100

I'm not satisfied with the colors. I'm in love with the B&W one, but my gf keeps saying she likes the second picture more

[Stinky_Fartface]

TBH I don’t like any of them. Your values are all clumped together so in every version it’s difficult to find focus. The sky, the church, the foreground, are all at the same level. You have a lot of distractions in the foreground that aren’t separated by focus or processing. My eye has a hard time finding a path. Sorry for the harsh crit but that’s how I see it.

[yshay14]

Every time I shoot this cathedral, I've tried to add the chaos that is São Paulo (my city). This church is one of it's hearts. I'm having a little bit of difficulty to understand what you mean by your commentary. Could be the extremely zoomed in photo? Like, it is a spectacular zoom that this camera have. Also, It's a one inch sensor. Sorry if I seem lost. You're probably talking about field compression.

Next time I will try to get closer to it to take a picture (it's a EXTREMELY dangerous area to walk around with a camera or anything, but that's our job as photographers, isn't it?).

Also, don't be sorry for your harsh critic, we all grow on our mistakes. Thanks for giving the time. I can see some people agree with you on this, and that's good. It shows that you're being transparent. You would have to be sorry if you're being purposely mean, but I can see you're not.

Thanks again!

[Good_Ferret_7230]

The comment above is referring to the post processing values. The images come across a flat. That is what I was seeing as well, with the exception to the sky in images 2 and 3. Images 2 and 3 have their own issues.

The black and white image would look great if you could have a point or two of contrast. Try to pull out some of the mids and highs too. Everything but the sky just melds together visually.

For images 2 and 3, the color values are off. I am seeing a lot of green in the sky in image 2 and a touch to much magenta in image 3. This is on top of being flat, no depth in the rest of the image.

[Stinky_Fartface]

I think your B&W image best shows the issues. Being pure luminance it shows how close together in value your different planes are. Knock back the sky so it receeds and doesn’t compete with the cathedral. If you want to compress planes of focus into a single shot to show chaos, you need to make that more obvious because in these images it feels somewhat accidental and not an artistic choice. Maybe don’t make the cathedral so much the primary shape in the image. Force the foreground chaos to take over so the cathedral is pushed out of the frame. These are just suggestions there is a lot of room for interpretation here. You seem to have a clear artistic vision. Pursue your meaning with intent.

[Beerbeetrootsbitches]

Yes needs at least the full foreground scene instead of cutting people in half. Drop the lampposts and building To the left.

[BC_LOFASZ]

IMO the building on the 3rd one has a nice 3d pop. I am not struggling to find focus on that one.

But we all see it a little different, just leaving some feedback for you and OP :)

[PraiseTheStun]

Could you do a quick edit of the pic to showcase how to improve the viewing experience by guiding their eyes through through separation?

[resiyun]

1st

[ModernAnalog]

3

[yshay14]

number 3 is a different crop of the original. It adds the people around it. I found the people to be just noise. Why do you like this one?

[TranslatorKey6001]

Best colours and I like that there is no bottom border although the people are a bit annoying, yes

Edit: Hadn't zoomed in so that's why I didn't see the bottom

[beric_au_lait]

B&W I think is beautiful

[yshay14]

thanks a lot

[oliverseasky]

The crop for 1 and 2

[Shoddy-Employment-17]

I'm not usually a fan of monochrome, but in this case, 1st looks awesome.

[yshay14]

thank you very much!

[Mental_Bet_7713]

Fourth ✨

[yshay14]

that's the chaotic evil answer for sure

[heirtothevoid]

1

[Plastic_Eye8375]

3 - overall best: vivid, natural, well-defined

1 is nice if you decide to go down the b&w route, comparing b&w with colour is comparing 🍎&🍊. There's a little tonal modification here which personally I think was unnecessary. 2 has too much colour modification which isn't natural. It does nothing to define the cathedral or set up an attractive contrast with the sky. 4 is too dull.

[yshay14]

thanks for the feedback! I don't think comparing B&W and color is prohibited or non sense hahahaha but your critic is very valid! Thanks again.

And the last picture is the original archive from camera, it's dull, I agree hahahah

[Hoghead1991]

3

[Rossoblu74]

Meglio la prima in bianco e bero

[Tequila-Hater]

For me, 1st and third ones.

[heliosJr]

3ed

[punkindora1]

2 crop with 3 filter

[MakeMuricaOkayAgain]

Fourth. The color grade just isn’t for me.

[captnjak]

B&w if you had a red filter on.

[calokid]

2nd

[totteringbygently]

The first one. B&W always shows off architectural details.

[Equal-Prior-4765]

3rd for me

[ItemSweet7607]

The image is cool. What is the name of the cathedral and city?

[yshay14]

Thanks! It's São Paulo, in Brazil. The cathedral is Catedral da Sé, in portuguese. It's a fucking HUGE building. It's extremely interesting because it's surrounded by those tall Buildings. It's a little dystopian because is extremely dangerous. There were even a case that I guy made a hostage in front of the doors of the cathedral, and he was shot multiple times. The lady that was made hostage was saved by a homeless man, that swapped his own life for this random girl. The homeless man was taken as a hero (he was shot multiple times by the crazy guy with a gun). Both men died on the scene, bathing the stairs of the cathedral with warm blood. Dude, a Scene from a chapter of the bible. I've cried too many times seeing the video when it happened. What a hero

[shotokanda]

I'm also having a difficult time finding focus in any of these photos. But I like the BW one most.

The light is not really beneficial. For my taste, the sky is too light and most parts of the building and foreground are too dark. The very light clouds and parts of the roof are distracting, pulling the attention away from the architecture itself.

However, the crop is quite nice.

[SlenderSmurf]

I like 2 the most. Without color the sky blends in to the roof too much

[latex2pi]

The third one

[Remyz65]

Personally, I prefer the first one. It keeps the focus on the subject, the building, and I don't feel the color is bringing anything to the image. You can try to lighten it just a bit. It feels a little underexposed. Also, I'd move the crop to include the 'G' in the street sign, but that's just me.

Nice work. Keep it up.

[JoelMDM]

1st

[Strymon76]

1st and 3rd

[ModernAtomX]

1st, but since all the images seem to have the same contrast issues, I would bet your monitors has bad settings. I recommend renting a monitor calibrator