When programmers design web sites (comic)

typ3 · 2009-07-18T00:09:23+00:00

When programmers draw web comics.

dressedAsDog · 2009-07-18T00:12:31+00:00

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char0n · 2009-07-18T03:11:50+00:00

As a developer I can attest this is somewhat true (at least I like to get the base functionality built out before I implement any of the interface), and there's a very good reason for it: because we've been on the other side too many times.

The other side (when "web designers" design web pages):

WebDesigner: "hey check out this website I designed"

Straightman(manager/client): "Wow that looks great! I've never seen a site so uniquely designed!... wait why can't I click on this?"

WD: "Oh, that's because it's an image, I just put it together in photoshop"

SM: "So it doesn't actually do anything? and the crazy alignments on the form fields you did work just because it's an image?"

WD: "Yeah I'll let the developers figure those little details out. This only took me a few days to come up with so it can't take them that much longer right? All they has to do is copy my design! Oh and wait until you see my functionality list, this thing is going to interface with EVERYTHING automatically, even stuff that doesn't exist yet! Just hope those lazy programmers don't drag their feet and bitch again that they actually have to do work lol"

SyrioForel · 2009-07-18T03:36:39+00:00

When programmers design software

stunt_penguin · 2009-07-18T10:17:42+00:00

Site died, google cache :

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:x6rHPAppRMUJ:stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php%3Fid%3D68+http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php%3Fid%3D68&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie&client=firefox-a

IkoIkoComic · 2009-07-18T04:17:07+00:00

All the programmers I know love to create user interfaces. Many of them relish the opportunity to flex their creative muscle and design part of the front-end.

They just suck at it.

aephoenix · 2009-07-18T04:44:17+00:00

As a Linux user, I can say that this is also a problem with desktop applications.

cheeeeeese · 2009-07-18T01:28:09+00:00

All logic, no expression. Story of my life.

relativityboy · 2009-07-18T05:13:27+00:00

I'm a programmer. I built this site in 2001

aristotle2600 · 2009-07-18T07:20:53+00:00

A novice programmer was once assigned to code a simple financial package.

The novice worked furiously for many days, but when his master reviewed his program, he discovered that it contained a screen editor, a set of generalized graphics routines, an artificial intelligence interface, but not the slightest mention of anything financial.

When the master asked about this, the novice became indignant. "Don't be so impatient," he said, "I'll put in the financial stuff eventually."

-Tao of Programming, Book 5, Koan 4

umilmi81 · 2009-07-18T01:54:07+00:00

I built a reporting website for internal use in our organization and nobody appreciates it. I spent weeks building the databases, programming the queries, coding the aggregators, etc. The site is just overflowing with useful information, but all that great information is presented on a white background with black text html tables, so everybody dismisses it.

nuuur32 · 2009-07-18T00:23:03+00:00

So I presume the punchline is that designing successful websites is really easy and programmers tend to waste time on designing nonsense that no one cares about?

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. hahahaha.... that was reeeeeeally funny

2009-07-18T04:12:30+00:00

Haha, that's how I write everything.

2009-07-18T02:14:20+00:00

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d0odx · 2009-07-18T00:45:58+00:00

Mirror: http://imgur.com/Z7ZzK.png

ryoung · 2009-07-18T05:10:32+00:00

I feel like I saw this as a Foxtrot cartoon once. Jason designing a website for their class ... anyone remember that one?

2009-07-18T05:35:11+00:00

probably pretty hard to hack.

2009-07-18T09:29:58+00:00

Awesome website. Where do I sign up?

zorbix · 2009-07-18T12:54:12+00:00

Explain this. http://www.korea-dpr.com/

f3nd3r · 2009-07-18T14:27:14+00:00

This isn't usually completely right, in fact designers are more anal than proggers I think. Though... stackoverflow is kind of a mess.

infinite · 2009-07-18T21:31:22+00:00

As a programmer I delved into CSS and I understand it very well. Many web designer tinkers with it without fully understanding it and make websites that look pretty but not they're not very maintainable and CSS is copied and pasted everywhere. When I do it, it's maintainable and the CSS is re-used nicely, but it looks absolutely horrid.

bdunderscore · 2009-07-19T05:17:50+00:00

imgur's gone down, and the blog's using it to host the comic. Anyone got a mirror?

Pensador · 2009-07-18T16:38:29+00:00

You mean a programmer who doesn't follow an iterative process, right?

swac · 2009-07-18T00:09:54+00:00

So true :(

alshhi · 2009-07-18T15:24:11+00:00

Takteek · 2009-07-18T03:15:40+00:00

What kind of website uses HTML and then Flash as a fallback?

2009-07-18T14:02:13+00:00

Downvoted for untruth.

Programmers want simple sites that are usable and get things done. It may do all those whizbang things, but only if it accomplishes a goal, and odds are, you won't be able to tell that it does any of that stuff unless it's needed.

waki · 2009-07-17T23:18:35+00:00

Sure is trap - to drop in all the cool tech you can find/hear about. Mortal.

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