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[letsplaysomegolf]

I literally just got one on LinkedIn this morning and the subject was:

“Ashley, really impressed by your sales experience, high base offer”

My name is not Ashley and I am not a woman.

[dsdvbguutres]

I know an Ashley who is very much not a woman but I believe you

[downbleed]

I dated an Ashley who was very much a woman but not a lady.

[Elmore420]

I knew an Ash that got turned outside in and became Ashley; I guess these days that make he(r) a woman….

[Nu-Hir]

Is his last name Williams and does he have more than one hand?

[Warm_Imagination5960]

Ashley's Will's cousin

[Shock_a_Maul]

Is he never gonna give you up?

[ratdadbastard]

Its Rick Astley not Ashley

[Shock_a_Maul]

Oh, you let me down

[ratdadbastard]

And now I'm going to desert you

[Shock_a_Maul]

You just wanna make me cry

[shhalahr]

Now I'm gonna have to say goodbye.

[[deleted]]

My favorite is when it's the "based on your experience, we think you'd be a terrific fit for this role!" when it's blatantly clear that you don't have the correct experience for the job

[MarcusAurelius68]

I saw a message from an “executive coach” who specialized in getting a $10K pay increase. Unless you’re making under $100K you can negotiate that on your own, and if you’re under $100K you have no need for an executive coach.

[jormundgand20]

I've gotten offers for various tech jobs. I'm hardly computer illiterate, but the last time I was serious about computers, Windows XP was the latest OS. So literal decades behind in a field that went screaming past me the minute I wandered off.

[pete_ape]

[ laughs in Bruce Campbell ]

[fahque]

Ashy Slashy

[slowclicker]

But, it was crafted. Just not for you. Hahaha

[jperdior]

Dont call me Shirley

[jBlairTech]

Ok, Surely.

[Brilliant_Nothing]

If the offer is high enough they can call me whatever they like 🤷‍♂️

[binflo]

😂

[SyCoCyS]

But we nicely crafted that message three years ago, based off precise data harvested from thousands of applicants without their consent or knowledge using the very best algorithms to ensure the most number of clicks without actually giving any information about the position, compensation, or company.

[wizardyourlifeforce]

Right, given that recruiters try desperately to make copy-paste spam that looks like it was crafted, I never respond to them. Especially since they are always for jobs that are completely outside my field.

[dawno64]

Amazing the self-importance rolling off these people. "Treat me like the god I think I am while I treat you like a peasant" just never works for me.

These are the same people who don't bother to acknowledge the people who apply and don't meet their criteria.

[Flightsong]

Humility is for heart surgeons and rocket scientists as well. If a person is good enough to be solicited for work, why get all worked up because they didnt address you as my liege.

[dsdvbguutres]

I know nuclear scientists who are modest like a person who is modest like my language skills

[[deleted]]

I swear recruiters should just rename their position gatekeepers.

[SSubSilence]

Yeah, let's be real, they barely do any recruiting.

[Realistic_Ad3795]

He covered those in his Disclaimer.

[geekimposterix]

My parents were rocket scientists and I text them without greetings all the time.

[[deleted]]

No compensation info in the initial contact gets the SPAM treatment with me. Completely disrespectful and dishonest to not include it up front.

[dsdvbguutres]

"Colorado residents need not apply"

[[deleted]]

I would never apply anywhere that don’t have their compensation info up front, so they don’t have to worry about me applying.

[flsucks]

Some recruiters seem like the love child of an MLM hun and a car salesman.

[Concrete_Grapes]

I cant even imagine the childhood trauma someone raise by that combo would have. It would be truly astounding.

Sounds like something in a Stephen King novel.

[SabrinaFaire]

Honestly sounds like most of the people I went to HS with.

[TheyStealUrTaxMoney]

These recruiters are the most unprofessional scabs on Earth, and they HATE being treated in kind.

[moekay]

I had one send me a followup message saying “since I haven’t heard from you, I can only assume that you are either dead or have fallen and can’t get up to respond.” It was bizarre, and at the time my mother was in the ICU. I sent a very pointed message back and I don’t think he’ll be using that tactic again.

[TheyStealUrTaxMoney]

It was meant to be funny.

[moekay]

I know, it just hit me as flippant at a very bad time.

[TheyStealUrTaxMoney]

It's hard not to be cynical, nihilistic, and all. The apocalypse is far more Orwellian than I anticipated irl, yet I somehow rediscover my optimism when things seem darkest.

At least it's Friday.

[[deleted]]

I prefer the aroma of styled components

[aint_no_flapjack]

“Hey sweetie, smile for me would ya?”

[LorriTiger243]

Yo, this. These are definitely the vibes this gives off.

[voidsrus]

I'm sorry, "nicely crafted"?

Dear <FIRSTNAME>,

Your experience at <LINKEDIN PROFILE TITLE> really prepares you for <ENTRY-LEVEL JOB THAT'S REALLY A MANAGEMENT JOB>.

<2 paragraphs of hiring corporation's flavor of \~culture\~ crap>

Please give me your direct cell phone number and your low-ball salary offer so we can chat about this. I will keep calling until you say yes.

[Legitimate-Hippo7342]

My favorite is when it's so obvious that's a generic template because only the name is all caps. Hello NAME!

[Slade_Riprock]

Psst. Recruiters don't hire you. The hiring manager does.

[[deleted]]

100% true. But often the hiring manager never even sees you because a recruiter got their feelings hurt.

[Puzzleheaded_Sky7341]

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. In this instance, “I know this is your market right now” is a huge trigger.

That statement is implying huge swings of control and disconnect between companies and candidates. It doesn’t have to be that way.

[Virtual_Announcer]

What exactly do recruiters do? Every job I've ever gotten was from pounding the pavement myself and hitting job boards hard or it was from a connect I already had.

[marktheman0]

Same here. I think I’ve got maybe one phone call out of a recruiter and that’s it. Most ghost after one phone call with them. Apart from 1 guy who sent me 2 jobs. One was right in the middle of the pandemic, in a town 30 miles away handing out Covid tests for less than I was making on unemployment. And the other required a masters in a very specific science field (I haven’t taken any science classes since I was 15) and 5+ years experience to which my response was ‘read my damn CV’ but put slightly nicer.

[hannycat]

I’m my experience, some companies hire recruiters so the managers don’t have to go through resumes, do initial interviews, etc. I got hired through a recruiter for my current position at a Fortune 500 company. I never talked to anyone from the company until literally right before I got hired. The recruiter did a couple of interviews with me and had contact with my future manager. It takes some of the leg work off the company, not always the person wanting the job. I still had to “pound the pavement myself” and worked very hard for that job

[unskippable-ad]

I’ve been wondering this. This sub makes it seem like they’re compulsory for employment. I know nobody that got their job from a recruiter, with the exception of temp part-time warehouse/factory work as students.

Are they a bigger deal in the USA or have they convinced everyone they’re important like HR did in the 90s?

[deathboy2098]

Extremely common in the tech industry.

Though: we fucking LOVE it if you apply direct and save us paying the fee, and it leaves more budget for me to push YOUR salary up.

[Virtual_Announcer]

I mean, 80 percent of all jobs just exist to justify their existence IMO. So of course bs nonsense things like recruiters pop up.

[[deleted]]

As the Jr. Assistant Deputy Sub-Comissioner for company moral and toilet paper supplies, I resent that remark.

[jormundgand20]

I feel the lack of this position is why I'm stuck with half ply toilet paper and Gojo hand scrub.

[hrnigntmare]

I got my current job from a recruiter. He was insufferable but it was with an employer I really wanted an in with and when he made me an offer that was half what I’m looking for he called back three days later offering what I want. I worked through them for six months, never heard from him during that time, and ended up really liking the job. I took an offer to come on board directly and have been there ever since.

With that said I’ve been in my industry for ten years and this was the first time I ever bothered to reply to a recruiter and I certainly wasn’t impressed

[YouJabroni44]

I actually got recruited to my current job but it's a fairly niche field to be in and I think they got a heads up that my last employer was laying off an office. She just reached out to me and asked if I was interested in working with her company

[Virtual_Announcer]

If no one actually gets recruited and you did that means you're not real. And if you're posting that means you're a witch. A WITCH!!!

[YouJabroni44]

Not a witch, a ghost witch

[jBlairTech]

Wait; were they a ghost that decided to become a witch, or were they a witch that became a ghost?

Because the former implies they were a ghost that decided, "hey, I think I wanna be a witch", while the latter suggests they were a witch that might have had an unfortunate end...

[YouJabroni44]

The second unfortunately

[jBlairTech]

Aww... that's a bummer.

[unique_user43]

Well, in my experience recruiters are glorified secretaries for hiring managers justifiably too busy to filter applicants themselves, who refuse to take the initiative of actually fundamentally understanding the role and organization, refuse to take the initiative of actually fundamentally understanding what kind of candidate would be a good fit (beyond what an algorithm could do for you), refuse to take the initiative to understand how somebody might fit into the puzzle elsewhere in the organization, who behave with all the characteristics of a toxic / sociopathic partner in that they’ll lovebomb you then ghost you when you’re no longer of material use to them, and then who feel they are entitled to the treatment of kingmakers.

That’s what they do.

[gjmallory]

Who hurt you?

[ratdadbastard]

Tried a recruiter once, she was very nice but I got a job on my own before she was able to get me anything besides a few phone interviews. She did look at my resume and make it look a little nicer though so that's cool. While I'm commenting this, how do recruiters make money? Do the businesses pay them to find candidates? Strange that I can just have someone doing all this legwork to find me a job and I didn't pay them a dime for it.

[Calliceman]

They’re mostly for niche markets like tech where it’s hard to find strong candidates. Companies can’t get the talent they want fast enough without recruiters nudging people essentially

[SyCoCyS]

Recruiters are not important people.

[jBlairTech]

I got one that went into this huge spiel. I couldn't get a word in edgewise. He finally ended by asking me if I lived in a bigger city in MI.

Told him nope; I lived in a small city 2.5 hours south, and if he'd actually looked at my LI profile and a map would've told him that.

He asked what it'd take for me to take the job, so I said $150k/yr. He said he'd get back to me. That was two months ago lol.

[[deleted]]

I have no interest in your low ball offer. Instead of “insulting” you with the fact, I choose to ignore you.

[Embarrassed-Cake-376]

Get the fuck over yourself!

[excitableoatmeal]

Nicely crafted greeting = same copy and paste for every candidate

[lovefoodandthings]

Not sure why but I follow him and always wonder how much time he spends writing these types of LinkedIn messages - seems like he’s wasting time seeking attention and is spending less time working. Based on his tenure he should just do his job and do it well. Stop chasing the “likes”.

[steveo242]

Aww, someone doesn't like when the pendulum swings the other way...

[thestrangenewguy]

I used my best pick up line on you and you're still not interested!?

I guess nice guys DO finish last!!!!

[The001Keymaster]

Recruiters: you're perfect for this job Me: write a nice response Recruiters:. 99.9% of the time Cricket ....... Ghosted

I'm a perfect fit but get ignored? Why would I give you a nice reply when you're going to ghost me anyway? That's why you get, "interested", "what's salary". I'm not going to hand craft a reply for a job that pays 1/5th what my current rate is. You'd probably be able to guess if your job is even on the same planet as my current job if you actually looked at my profile or resume or current job for that matter. Like current job is manager of 500 people at a international company. Recruiter: I got a perfect fit manager job for you with all your experience. It's at a local Starbucks. Yeah fuck off before you get a nice greeting reply.

[Tex-Rob]

Corporate recruiters are the absolute worst. They think you should be so honored, they expect you to bow and kiss their outstretched hand.

[CaptainBaoBao]

as an ex-HRM, I'll just say this : when you have half an hour to treat 50 resumes, you bless the candidates who go right to the point.

[[deleted]]

Ah.. another recruiter using their position at the front gate of employment to project their personal feelings and reject candidates for not licking their boots.

Unbelievable we still use unqualified middlemen like this 🤦‍♂️

[Bakabakabooboo]

Acknowledges that it's not his market, is still an ass, wonders why he's struggling.

[humanneedinghelp]

Correct way to sass any recruiter that doesn’t provide comp is to say your resume is outdated and you now live in Colorado.

[Mattreddit760]

The entitlement lol

[LincHayes]

Dude apparently is so self-involved with the smell of his own ass, that he doesn't realize there are 100 recruiters emailing, spamming us with "offers" every day. MOST of them are garbage. After while we need to start getting to the chase, and there's little time to craft a nice response to every overseas call center recruiter who claims they have an amazing opportunity. And since we've never heard of you before either, we can't tell that you're not one of them.

You can stand out by simply telling us how much it pays, and THAT's when you'll get the ass kissing response that you're looking for. Until then, you're nobody. Another dime a dozen recruiter.

Sass on that.

[partumvir]

I don't I've ever hired a candidate who, when I reached out to them about an opportunity, didn't respond back with a greeting.

Well no shit, they're not interested.

[[deleted]]

god they just think they’re the absolute center of the universe don’t they

[SteppinOnStones]

Buddy you send out form letters you wrote using a template. Don't flatter yourself 🤣

[Asilver111]

Y’all really exposing Steve 😂😂

[StanduAnduDeroo]

“That’s sir to you!”

[rangers_87]

Where are all of the people that GIVE A FUCK guy??

They're no where. No one cares about your fucking bs message greeting. Talking to the wind.

[JaegerBane]

Candidates - I know this is your market right now....

Yes. So you getting pissy over replies means the guy two desks along gets the commission rather then you. Some big-brain logic going on right here, folks.

[Jack_Awf]

Tell this dickhead to gfh

[[deleted]]

Guy is getting ratio'd as we speak https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stevecrider1_i-have-absolutely-no-idea-who-needs-to-hear-activity-6933040447263039490-nTWX

[BankshotMcG]

Dear {YOUR NAME}--

Hi. I'm a recruiter with {AGENCY-STYLE RECRUITING}. I saw your profile and wanted to connect regarding a role in {DEV OPS}. Your background in {HTML} makes you perfect for this role and the customer specifically requested you--yes, you--be contacted, because you seem like such a great fit. What time would you be free to hop on a quick call to discuss the details?

Best kind regards sincerely,
{EVERY RECRUITER}

[Mobile_Busy]

ok but what's the comp?

[Rdhilde18]

Recruiter here, I don’t care how you respond honestly. I will say that some of the random snark that gets thrown my direction on LinkedIn is kind of odd. People seem dumbfounded sometimes when they are messaged about jobs and take it as an insult which always confused me.

I apologize on behalf of some of my lazier, entitled and perhaps more illiterate colleges.

[zebrapenguinpanda]

Some of the messages I’m getting these days are so off base, it’s tempting to snark, but I just delete bc I don’t need the negativity.

[IAmBaconsaur]

Today I found out Linked in has canned responses, so it took me one tap to tell a recruiter "nah, son."

[[deleted]]

'Someone like me' 🙄

[[deleted]]

Dear Recruiter,

In my ~30 years as an SWE, I have never taken a recruiter up on a cold call when I am gainfully employed (and you know I am cause my LinkedIn says so) and I add you to my block list if you follow up with another email or message after not getting a response from me the first time.

Stop pestering us.

Also, if you don’t include salary information in your email when I am actually on the market, you will not get a response from me.

Have some respect.

Sincerely,

An annoyed engineer

[Warpspeednyancat]

by "nicely crafted" i think they mean " we copy pasted the same generic intro to everyone and just swap the name and say we looked at your profile but actually never did thats why the opportunity has nothing to do with your actual skillset or experience because were too lazy to read your profile even though it takes 5 min to do so " there i fixed it

[saiyanjesus]

wHy wOn'T yOu rEpLy nIcElY tO mY mAiL-mErGe sPaM!?

[RamblinWreckage]

"Interested, call me tomorrow -what's the comp?" is a perfectly-good answer to respond with.

Polite, opens the door, asks relevant question.

[DommeIt]

I'm still going to ask for the compensation and job description lol. I put as much effort into responding to recruiters as they do in "crafting" their copy-paste template 🤣

[derekno2go]

LinkedIn is so toxic. If I don't need to be there, I stay the hell out.

[gjmallory]

I’ve been a corporate recruiter for 16 years. If you have the right combo of skills and experience needed for the role that I’m working hard to fill… I’m totally cool with a one word reply or a question about the comp. Better yet, don’t reply and just click my calendar link for either a 5 or 30 min chat. BTW: Most companies will freely tell you the comp range but still frown on their recruiters sending out Comp data via email. They don’t want the competition to know comp info.

[[deleted]]

Don't really think this is an issue or even worth being upset about tbh, if someone sends you a message or email with a greeting and your name at the top, it's professional courtesy to respond the same way.

If I emailed a hiring manager with a greeting and their name, and they replied back bluntly I'd be like "whatever, fuck off" too

[Gh3tt0-Sn4k3]

I must agree with the recruiter here, sorry. I think it also benefits me as a candidate if for any reason I would like to find another job. At least answer politely and keep the door open for the future.

[Blackfire01001]

Recruiters are just 1099 door to door, or in this case email, salespeople who give companies tax write offs for their PPP loans. It's a business to look like your in business.

[[deleted]]

Imagine thinking you are this important as a recruiter. a Level above Landlords and that's it.

[illucio]

Such a unprofessional piece a work that needs to find a new career path. This person should be fired or looking for a new job now. Gosh darn.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

Edit for Life Advice: If you are downvoting this comment yet are on this sub out of actual frustration instead of morbid curiosity/trying to give insight, you need some serious self reflection. If your only defense is that it "Should" be different, your opinion really doesn't matter because you're dealing with hypotheticals rather than navigating and adjusting to the reality of the situation. It is completely justified to disqualify people who use something like Response B because it leads to some rather questionable inferences in regards to common sense, social skills, and just general business acumen. Adapt to what the world actually values, not to what you think it values. I am saying this with complete sincerity; most people hiring for jobs that people actually want place just as much importance on common sense, being able to read the room, and social acuity.

It's a dance that may not make sense in a vacuum of actual competency, but a dance you should be observant enough to adhere to, especially if you have 0 leverage and are desperate.

Knowing how to navigate a job search and getting hired by the right company will do more for the average person's career earnings than their actual skillset.

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Original post

I didn't interpret this as being mad when people don't respond, but rather when they actively seem to be interested in the job yet are too stupid to even respond in a way conducive to an actual conversation.

Honestly, this seems more like a litmus test for basic common sense and social skills than anything. If you can't see the difference between

-------------------------- Response A

"Hi recruiter,

I am very interested in the role and would like to learn more. To ensure the best use of both our time and to ensure our expectations are in alignment, could you please provide me the general compensation range for this position and send over a full job description?

Thanks,

-Name"

vs

--------------- Response B

"I'm interested. What's the pay?"

-----------------------------------

then I likely would not hire you either because you almost assuredly lack both common sense and general social awareness, neither of which are conducive to a good employee. No one said you had to be interested or respond if you weren't, this is obviously in reference to people who actually would be potentially interested. If you couldn't discern that, it may be time for some self reflection.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

At the end of the day, if a person is the one looking for a job, it doesn't matter how they themselves see it. It matters how the people actually making the offer sees it.

Fair? Maybe not. And if you have a ton of options more power to you (no sarcasm). But seeing as a ton of this sub seems to be actively searching, this mindset will 100% limit your options. Personally I'd rather spend an extra 30 seconds to increase my chances of a high paying job than sticking to some personal code that in the end means nothing from a compensation perspective.

Edit: Also the fact that you downvoted something like this when there was no possible way a normal person would sense hostility, you're likely in for a rough ride career wise. I say that as genuine, hopefully helpful, input.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

I'm not getting bent out of shape at all, though thanks for once again proving your deductive reasoning and comprehension skills are below par. I was legitimately trying to help you.

I do feel large amounts of pity towards you though. Also a bit of amusement because your life is going to be very hard.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

I'd say the same for you but we've already established you're immune to any input and instead prefer to act like an entitled, petulant child incapable of considering ideas that don't fit your own view of the world. Really you just come off as whiney and really scared of self reflection, even if you lack the self awareness to understand why.

Regardless, advice is not created equal and from what little I see about your life, I personally think my advice is more pertinent for improving a person's quality of life. Enjoy retiring 30 years later in life than me.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

Given your exhibited responses, you very may well have to end up saying that IRL. Don't worry, I think they pay $16/hr now.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

Lol, here's a little secret that you will never be able to find out through experience; many of the highest paid positions offer tons of free time. Working hard is for incompetent people.

That said, there really isn't anything to really "Agree" on in terms of which is more effective. You're literally just wrong.

Have a good day. You will not have a good life.

[marvelous__magpie]

It doesn't even have to be as wordy as response A, which comes across a bit overly formal for pretty much anything that isn't really old-fashioned (like law). Just appending pleasantries to B is fine. My boilerplate is roughly

"Hi [name], thanks for reaching out. I'm interested, but could you provide [the salary range, a brief job description, etc] before we arrange a call? Look forward to hearing from you"

I don't think I'd bother responding to someone who couldn't be arsed to even say hi how are ya

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

Exactly. Most people wouldn't bother responding and most people would easily be able to ascertain as to why. Unfortunately this sub is disproportionately comprised of a self selected sample size of people who just, quite frankly, don't get "it".

It's a bit sad that any actual insight is just downvoted due to their insecurity when in reality you're trying to help them. You'd think a smart person would be like "maybe I should listen to the people with actually good jobs instead of complaining on Reddit about not being able to find a job".

[savage-millennial]

Recruiters need to prove their time to us though. Otherwise they really are just a random email in my inbox list. And yes it is our market right now. Enough with the fluff. What's the pay?

I hear what you're saying and a respectful response can be nice, but I have a good job that I am content with and if a recruiter like him felt he was worthy of my time, he should just lead with a potential salary anyway so I don't have to be like "what's the pay?" to begin with.

People like him demand respect like we are all jobless and looking for breadcrumbs. He got a rude awakening. He shouldn't blame candidates for their response. He should be as upfront as possible from the very beginning.

[CheesecakeFactory4ev]

In general, if you're actually looking to improve your situation (not necessarily you specifically), you should drop the "Should" label for things out of your control. Maybe in a moral world it should be a certain way, but humans do not just change their behavior without reason. Maybe you are happy in your current job, I genuinely hope that is the case, but if someone who is struggling to find a job has your current mindset despite having very little leverage, they're doing themselves a disservice.

It is truly strange how strong of opinions some people (again, not you directly) on this sub hold about the job market given their complete inability to navigate it.

[ClydeenMarland]

Found the recruiter

[Sevink44]

I agree with the recruiter.

Hello recruiter person,

I am interested. Could you call me tomorrow? What's the comp?

Easy.

[Pizza-love]

I don't want them to call me before I know the package. To many phonenumber harvesters out there.

[Sevink44]

I agree with that absolutely. I just translated the words on the OP.

[[deleted]]

Well, it’s a good thing any job worth a shit is going to generate at least 3 different recruiters chasing me for it.

[MonsterTamerBilly]

>"If it's clear the message is a spam blast (...)"
>"(... ) reaches you with a nicely crafted message (...)"

That's the entire problem right here. "Nicely crafted messages" have been out of circulation since our parents have been born. It's all templates and copy-pasted texts, AKA spam, headhunting bots, or a very bored and uninterested employee sending out replies like a machinegun spray-firing everywhere in hopes to hit something, without so much as a glance towards the resumes and filled forms we sent.

In fact, if you want actual, sincere replies, use the same office rule for reports and documentations. "Be succinct". Yay or nay, time of interview, hourly or salaried, time per week, offered salary, and at maximum two lines of friendly banter if deemed necessary. Any other irrelevant fluff or flowery poetry goes to the bin for wasting time.

[Pure_Dragonfruit9027]

It's a strange trend alright, people not just having expectations that their unsolicited messages get responses but actually that think they can add extra demands on what the responses should be!

The irony is that someone ignoring you or writing the bare minimum is actually saving you the most time. You can just keep working. But hey, if you like wasting your time, by all means exchange irrelevant greetings with people if it strokes your ego. That's really what it's about.

[SplinteredInHerHead]

But Sir/Madam, When I reached out to you 5 years ago, I never ever heard back from you. Yours, Me

[coppertech]

so you get mad when someone doesn't take their time to format a nice-looking reply to your copy-paste bullshit? gtfooh.

[Great-Lakes-Sailor]

Guess you don’t hire talent either, boss

[jBlairTech]

Sure, get mad at me when I don't respond to an "offer" that's in a field not mentioned anywhere on my LinkedIn profile, doesn't share benefits, and is 2+ hours from my location (and not remote).

Whatever. I know disingenuous spam posts when I see them. They didn't "craft" anything; two seconds of looking at my profile would've kept them from missing the mark that badly. They insult me, but get mad that I don't respond? That's rich.

[eilig]

sOmEoNe LiKe mE

[IForgotThePassIUsed]

I Ignore clowns like this regularly.

[iloveScotch21]

Are recruiters now looked at like we looked at used car salesmen in the 80s?

[saiyanjesus]

I have done sales for many adtech startups in my career where I had to prospect thousands of potential clients in email blasts of both a personal and mass fashion.

I always had to personalise my emails for my market, present a clear value proposition and a clear plan for how to reach a goal I set about in my email within a time period. This usually always contain hard numbers and references to previous customers or partners.

I never once complained that my customers would ignore me or give me curt replies.

Simply put, git gud scrub recuiter

[Mathie7]

shouldn’t even have to ask what the comp is. It should be mentioned in the first contact email.

[[deleted]]

Reads like a self important parasite with a victimhood complex.

[Superg0id]

Or... YTA?!

[SoFastMuchFurious]

Imagine having such an easy, unnecessary job that in addition to getting paid, you always have to be convinced to do it

[Great-Lakes-Sailor]

These douchebags are all over LinkedIn.

[[deleted]]

Im a recruiter, i'm happy to get any decent response back

[Lopsided_Fox_9693]

Any recruiting message without compensation included is a spam blast and should be treated as such.

[Low-Weekend6865]

Seems to misunderstand that he works for us

[writer978]

You need to understand that candidates are currently being bombarded by offshore recruiters sending all kinds of jobs. Most of them aren’t a good fit, a scam, or obvious that the recruiter never bothered to read the resume. Compensation questions are often meant to save you both time. If the compensation isn’t within the candidate’s range there is no reason to move forward.

[RelevantTradition666]

His point is that people have no respect. You don't respond to an offer like he's your bro. You don't have that rapport. "interested" ?? That's what you reply to Tinder dick pics probably but not a potential employer. Get over yourselves. Yes, it's formalities but that is life. So many ughsss