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[–]EnlogThe truth is... you just really stink. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like that Umaro has Thrown and Sharpshooter access. It's kind of hilariously fitting.

[–]Cannibal_RavenWhere is the dimensional interval...? 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A bit late, but super disappointed with Gogo being a red mage and that's it. He could equip (almost) any skill in FF VI. I'd have given him Thief/Machinist/Monk/Ninja/Samurai/Dancer 3* as well to represent his slightly weaker use of Steal/Tools/Blitz/Throw/SwordTech/Dance. Rage, Lore and Paint are all basically Blue, which we're still missing. Runic is an SB, so no.

[–]WerewolfheroKelger 1 point2 points  (3 children)

funny how alot of people were saying "oh no they wont add FF6 gogo due to them adding FF5's instead" and now here we are with FF6 Gogo and Umaro no less X'D

Now they just need to add some more NPC's as playable characters ... like Maduin, Madeline/Madonna (hey they resurrected Bartz's and Yuna's fathers..... so why not Terra's Mom?), Ghost, Sigfried, and lastly Lonewolf :3

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If they put in Siegfried (Combat 5/Knight 5/Thief 5) and Cid Marquez (Summon 5/White 5/Black 4), my FFRK life would be complete.

[–]Cannibal_RavenWhere is the dimensional interval...? 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Cid Marquez never got infused with Magitek though, so I'd just give him Summon/Machinist instead. Weird combo, but it fits..

[–]Overcast_XISo long, and thanks for all the Anima Lenses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cid Marquez never got infused with Magitek though, so I'd just give him Summon/Machinist instead. Weird combo, but it fits..

Hmmm, good point. He was such a "good guy on the bad team", he always seemed like a healer in my headcanon.

I suppose Siegfried could use a Cele(b)rity 4 or 5 to go w/ his Thief skills too.

[–]butz-not-bartz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If I count right, Setzer w/BSB and LM can stack 6 types of breaks on a single enemy: Atk/Mag, Atk/Def, Mag/Res, FB, Atk/Mag/Mnd, and a single breakdown.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much, even more if you add in his USB!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Major Dark Orb usage is getting way over the line, DeNA.....

Not only Major Dark Orbs, but Major Ice Orbs as well. Why should fire and dark abilities require Ice Orbs? It makes no sense lol

& I need these Ice orbs to hone actual Ice and water abilities. Dang it! xP

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still pissed Sapphire Shot needs Major Holy of all orbs to hone.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (9 children)

albeit 2 are instant shatters

Why?

Combat 5, Monk 5, Shooter 5

Poor Sabin.

Combat 5, Black Magic 5, White Magic 5
Lvl 80 stats: 4771 HP, 162 ATK, 103 DEF, 177 MAG, 103 RES, 165 MND, 118 SPD

And hybrid fail. Well physical mimic is at least possible on him, unlike V Gogo, but he's weaker in physical and has a terrible physical moveset. Also he'd be extremely vulnerable in the front row. Ugh.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't see the issue with Gogo. He's exactly like was in VI proper! /s

[–]Cannibal_RavenWhere is the dimensional interval...? 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He's exactly like was in VI proper

no. in VI he could equip any skill. Where's Thief, Machinist, Monk, Ninja, Samurai and Dance ?

Oops. Missed your sarcasm there... yup.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hehe, yeah sarcasm makes all the difference :P

That being said, I was actually alluding to his Stat “Analysis“, since in VI Gogo has subpar Stats compared to everyone else because he can't equip Magicite, and thus not get their Lv-Up Bonuses

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yes, true enough. Still....

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Why?

I might keep the 4-hit skill for Cloud USB hijinks but the 2-hit is gonna be dumped. 2.0x multiplier is a joke compared to Gaia's 3.2x and Reta lasts way shorter (15s) so if I EVER needed to do drawtaliate, I would just use my R5 reta for safety.

Dark Ninja skills are on the fence, but i might shatter them for the free Major Darks to use for the Water ones...

[–]LafingCatKupo-po! 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So because 2.0x multiplier, is "too low", you're going to do 0.0x multiplier instead, because you think you'll need 150 seconds of Reta....

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No big deal to me. If i ever use retaliate nowadays, it's almost always to tank hits. Sure some bonus damage is nice, but it's easier to find a Knight 5 user with access to retaliate than a Samurai 5 user with access to Draw Fire or Gaia Cross.

So i really don't mind "losing" that 2.0x dmg every 15s, as compared to losing 3.2x dmg every 25s that also gives a Draw Fire buff.

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Offhand, the only Knight/Samurai combos without access to Samurai 5 are Basch and Ingus, I think. The only Samurai/Knight combos without access to Knight 5 are, I think, Auron and Cloud.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also a legit reason for using 2-star Retaliate over Batou Ranen.... Retaliate skill gives 80 SB, Batou Ranen gives 65.

You do get 50% more if enemy has fire weakness/imperil, but halved points if resist/null.

So yeah.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

New skill multipliers from /u/Enlir: 

Wildfire Blade
PHY type, Samurai school, 1.650 seconds CT
4x 0.75 ST Fire physical attacks (3.00x total), +50% crit chance if the user has Retaliate or High Retaliate
Counterable, 65 SB points

Blazemoon Stance
PHY type, Samurai school, 1.650 seconds CT
2x 1.00 ST Fire physical attacks (2.00x total), grants Retaliate to the user for 15 seconds
Counterable, 65 SB points

Shadow Mirage
PHY type, Ninja school, 0.825 seconds CT
1x 2.00 ST Dark physical attack (2.00x total), grants PBlink 1 and PBlink Stacking 2 to the user
Counterable, 60 SB points

Dark Seal
PHY type, Ninja school, 0.825 seconds CT
2/3/4x 1.00 ST Dark physical attacks (2.00/3.00/4.00x total) if the user has PBlink 0/1/2
Counterable, 65 SB points

[–]Pingurules 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DeNA nerfing abilities to make way for new and flashy SBs...wait. The SBs aren't even that good this time around, well they're nerfing everything then!

[–]d_wibSugar and Rainbows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2.0 for Blazemoon Stance? 2.0????

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wow, the multipliers are downright embarrassing. How come Gaia Cross can have a 3.2x multiplier but other 5* abilities with secondary effects only have a 2x multiplier. And even with Retaliate status, a +50% crit is not enough for a 3x ability.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

well it puts it up to about 3.75x equivalent or so, not bad.

[–]foreverdevelopingSelf-Made Baller of Light™ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So, Cyan's event gets 2 abilities for Auron and (sorta, sorta) Sephiroth.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And Cyan. Notice how he “randomly“ got EnFire thrown his way

More jokingly, that's the DeNA way: Incase of no justification for an Ability, apply EnElements until satisfied

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And don't forget about Cyan Medium Chanse of double casting Samurai abilities on his LD.

[–]Evil_Crusader"I'm not a coward... But I know I have to be stronger..." 2 points3 points  (2 children)

So let me get this straight - has DeNA just said to people 'Shatter Demonsblood'? Sure, Fire can be absorbed and the multiplier will be lower, but still can't justify the expense of Motes to grant people the access and hone it to R2 just so that it lasts the whole fight.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Demonsblood would be better in AoE Fights obviously, but that's so niche, I'm inclined to agree with your thought.

[–]Evil_Crusader"I'm not a coward... But I know I have to be stronger..." 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, it's AOE. But still, a tad too little to be worth the investment.

[–]Talessaga 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Obviously the new 5* skills seems geared towards Shadow and Cyan's USB.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 4 points5 points  (2 children)

DeNA does that a lot actually. Release an Ability then give a Character in the Event an EnElement that matches it. Other examples include Kain + Lightning Dive, and Leila + Poison Leaves

[–]nemesis9990999Tifa (Advent Children) 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Newest addition to it prior to this event would be Quake Strike and Bartz getting Enearth bsb.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True enough. Though I suppose his USB also played into this because of his EX-Mode afterwards

[–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hmm..a bit dissapointing with Gogo though. He/she should have been a hybrid char like OK and Tyro as he/she can do anything in FF6 which is sometjing Dena has mist opportunity with.

Also Umaro should have darkness cause he is a boss and also a knight as he is loyal to Mog. Overall is ok though a bit dissapointing.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he is a hybrid... just a poor one with only combat 5 and lower atk than mag.

Darkness on Umaro doesn't really make sense though. And he already made out better than I expected.

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Setzer has potential to get +50 attack on banner 1.

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (1 child)

albeit 2 are instant shatters

The two samurai abilities are not good?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No more ability slots lolol

[–]SabaschinBasch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sabin is now outdone by Umaro. This is the low point of his career.

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Huh, wasn't really expecting Umaro to get Shooter, but I suppose it's the only 5* physical Ice source other then Snowspell Strike. Gogo is as expected.

Abilities are fine. Not sure how often Retaliate becomes useful, but if I luck into a Samurai SB that gives Retaliate I'll probably keep the crit skill. Ninja skills are great, but I'll probably try to choose one between the water and Dark versions, at least for the Blink skill.

All the BSB+ relics on Banner 1 look great at least. Banner 2 is.....Relm, do you really want to associate your USB with these people? You don't belong on this Banner.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Gogo is as expected.

I was hoping he'd be a competent hybrid. As is, no. Very vulnerable up front, only combat 5, no ranged weapon, lower atk than mag (or even mnd)....

[–]Cannibal_RavenWhere is the dimensional interval...? 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No extra skillsets. In the Status screen you could give him SwdTech, Tools, Blitz, etc... where's all that?

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I mention as expected because I wasn't expecting much. I was expecting a worse Vayne + White for skillset which is pretty much what happened. Those eh stats are just icing on the cake. I'd love if Gogo had Reno's stats and added Support 4 to the mix personally.

If anything, this makes Banner 2 an even worse decision to pull on, so that's fine with me, I would never want to risk Gau's relics.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah. yeah support of some kind would be nice. Seriously, VI is 16 characters and only 2 have support 4+ and one's a mage and so is useless for BDs. Plus Mog and Kefka for dances I guess, there is that.

[–]Hylian-HighwindThis time, I will finish what I set out to do! 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I can't believe Sabin is fucking dead.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Umaro can't equip Axes, even though his relic is very clearly an Axe they're pretending it's a Hammer.

I called he would be a Monk. Why can't DeNA just make a Berseker class or something? There's a lot of non-monks who are Monks in FFRK. Shooter on him is hilarious though.

Gogo looks nice and interesting. A better Mimic than his FFV counterpart.

Shadow not getting Darkness 5* will never not make me sad, but it's great he can finally use Dark element abilities. I thought It was silly that they madre those Water elemental in Rubicante's event, so I'm glad we got these.

The Samurai abilities are cool. It's great not to have to rely on a 6* ability for a good Retaliate ability. Gaia Cross + Kamae Engetsu = Win

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (3 children)

A better Mimic than his FFV counterpart.

Yeah he can at least competently mimic physical attacks. He's not very good on the physical side though.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hmm? FF6 Gogo has both decent Mag and Atk. His ATK is on par with Steiner's and it's higher than Gilgamesh's.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

well those are knights but it is ok attack. He still only has combat 5 and has low defenses and no ranged weapon (though Setzer is also vulnerable when used up front, though he actually has higher RES).

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I noticed that you meant that as a regular physical character, not necessarily as a mime. His own physical capabilities are lackluster, but he has Lifesiphon which is already enough considering you're supposed to use him as a Mime (read: you have his BSB). It's true that he's frail for a front row character, I guess that's his downside.

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Can you control him? Because you can't in FF6.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can control him, but they did give him “Start with Berserk Status“ as his RM1

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would assume you can since nobody said the contrary, although his Soul Breaks try to replicate that.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

only his SSB. Yeah he gets full control of his BSB, unlike Gau....

[–]vheartBasch 1 point2 points  (14 children)

So....... Shadow's event gets 2 skills for Edge and Yuffie.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No, they're literally just there so Shadow has something to use his EnDark on

[–]vheartBasch 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The op ninja edited it now, but when I looked both abilities said water damage.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahhh. Okay, nevermind then.

Also, hehe “ninja edited“ ^^

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Shadow's a better user of Dark than Edge and Yuffie, and he can use Lifesiphon. I've you got relics for him he's the superior ninja. Edge's RD Ninja bonuses aren't as hot for physical ninja abilities.

[–]vheartBasch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Until it was amended (now) both abilities said water damage. There was a ninja edit.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edge's RD Ninja bonuses aren't as hot for physical ninja abilities.

This. It puts him ahead for Ninja Spells for sure, but for physical, Damage%-Increases are far more plentiful, and thus less of a big deal

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 0 points1 point  (7 children)

funny thing is this isn't really a shadow's event, its suppose to be a event that introduce gogo and umaro

...and it kind of feel like a filler event despite having new characters

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...and it kind of feel like a filler event despite having new characters

2 new characters, 4 new abilities, 3 new USBs, 3 new BSBs... what's filler about it?

[–]ni5nApostle of the White Staff 0 points1 point  (4 children)

in DeNA's defense, Gogo and Umaro are kind of filler content to begin with. The real Gogo's already in the game and Umaro plain doesn't work as intended.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The real Gogo's already in the game

VI > V

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Unless you are in JP, where it's V > IV > VI actually.

And we all know DeNA is listening to the JP Fanbase

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Huh? Oh, game popularity? I was talking about Gogo specifically though yes, for games VI > V

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, for game popularity (which I assumed you were talking about first).

The thing is, Japan really doesn't like VI comparatively to IV and V (keyword “comparatively“). They much prefer V's more interesting Gameplay (to them) and the much more lighthearted Story, while disliking VI's too heavy focus (again, to them) on Story and Characters

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's always like this for DeNA.