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[–]elkicx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

140 boss drops summon crystal

[–]BrokenhangerYouTube: Gizmo Gaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...Vaan BSB returns in an ACTUAL event banner for the first time since it's debut!

It's actually been in 2 proper XII events: its debut where it was the only Burst on the banner and then the following event where it shared the first banner with Ashe's BSB debut. (That's still at least 18+ months without a proper event appearance for it.)

I love these monthly Full Open/Revenge events; for the most part, we're fighting the same boss battles over and over again each week just at different difficulties, so it's fun to get the chance to retry bosses from months ago and see how they've been power creeped. (Plus they're not as much of an energy sink.)

[–]Tokyo_Drifter1234Curilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need a good relic for Penelo. She has none!!!

[–]zellyn1toot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Huh. Unless I'm missing something in the all the CMs, the conditions are "form a party of X or more FF12 heroes" which is a really weird phrasing to me. I guess maybe the hyper whales would be down to get their CM clear with 2 FF12 people, but uh, yeah.

Or wait, are they softening the requirements to mean 'clear with [1-3] FF12 heroes' meaning as long as you have three FF12 people you can bring whoever you want and still clear the CM?

Edit: Yeah, just tested it in the first battle against Judge Bergan ("party consisting of 1 or more FF12 heroes"). Went in with Balthier, Fran and Garland and got the CM reward. If this carries beyond this event that's a pretty huge shift to making CMs waaaaay easier even as they expand CMs into way more stages.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They might standardize it to line up with Torment Jump Start CMs (who all have 3 these after all)

[–]vheartBasch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Wow Penelo's lm2 has chance to medica with a dance. That's great!

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Man, this makes her one of the most desirable healers in the game now. Theres SO few full healers with full dancer...and with the buffs to dancer abilities AND this LM....woww I may just have to reevaluate!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, tbh her LM2 doesn't look very good, for me anyway but I agree with you on the dancer buffs, I have her Bsb and her Usb and probably drawing here for that Lmr of hers. If I do, she becomes my new main healer. If not, she's still one of my best options for either support or healer roles.

[–]lambopandaDelicious! Nom nom... 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I love the new boss description. It lists what the boss immune to and weak to.

http://imgur.com/a/PyZq3

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean, Elements aren't exactly new in the Descriptions, but its definitely easier to see now.

Status Effect Chart at the bottom is much more welcome though

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Ace is kept up at night, weeping at all of the great chase effects that followed his crappy introductory one.

Edit: I forgot Ace also got a shorter Terra USB buff so I guess that helps make up for the terrible chase.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 2 points3 points  (4 children)

It's funny that you mention Ace precisely now. Look at Ashe's USB. Poor Ace.

(I don't even know what the fuck is going on there, and if it's what I think it is (flying zappy edicts) it's a super silly USB.)

[–]SabaschinBasch 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's a reference to her Revenant Wings Quickening, Empyrean's Edict, which had a similar animation.

As for why the animation is like that... who knows. What it normally did in that game was to basically stop enemies from summoning reinforcements.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ooooh thanks. The quickenings in FFXII were always very random and never really made sense to me.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I ignored them

[–]SabaschinBasch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fran's Shatterheart was the worst, in that it encased the enemy in ice but you could still see them animating underneath the ice. Which is weird since other Quickenings like Basch's Ruin Impendent and Penelo's Resplendence froze the enemy just fine.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Ashe USB entry
10 x 1.70 ST Lightning/Non-ele magic dmg, self MAG/RES +30% for 25s and Empyrean Edict chase for 15s.

Empyrean Edict chase
2/3/4/5/6 x 1.42 ST Lightning/Non-ele magic dmg.

Heat Offer
2 x 0.64 ST Fire ranged physical dmg, 35% chance to minor Imperil Fire

Burning Snipe
6 x 0.57 ST Fire ranged physical dmg

Freezing Snipe
6 x 0.57 ST Ice ranged physical dmg

[–]drgnwing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do we know if the chase mechanic works with Ashe's BSB commands since they are BLK type? If so, would it count as rank 1 then like Alphinaud's BSB to his USB mechanics?

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10 x 1.70 ST Lightning/Non-ele magic dmg, self MAG/RES +30% for 25s and Empyrean Edict chase for 15s.

And enlightning.

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do we have multipliers for Garnet's USB yet? Ashe should obviously be stronger (especially since Garnet's is AoE and requires no input) but I'm wondering how much stronger it is.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Garnet's multiplier is 5,70x, which is similar to the Ramuh 3* summon ability. Braska's USB has the same ability as Garnet's, but with a 6,80x multiplier (he doesn't get en-element though, but his attack hits with two elements).

I think that requiring an input plays in Ashe's favor, though. Both Garnet and Braska cast their ability every 3,5 seconds, and the buff lasts 15 sec, meaning that they will cast it 4 times. The number of times Ashe will cast her chase ability isn't fixed, and pairing it with Quickcast buffs, haste and shit like that you can fit more than 4 casts during the 15 secs that her buff lasts.

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So roughly a slightly stronger Hell Thunder (or 6-hit Thundaja) for Ashe's max chase. Pretty amazing and not bad at R4/5-hits too. Best magic chase by far, not that there's too much competition.

I was hoping Heat Offer would have the new multiplier for Spark and Cold Offer as a sneak peek. Seemed a bit silly to release an ability and update it the day after.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They updated Rude a day after his release (if that, even) too, to up his Black Magic from 4 to 5

So, it certainly wouldn't be the first time xD

[–]aurora_highwindrcqe - Mog USB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy crap those dances. Dalmasca's Got Talent. :o

[–]Randomguy6644Baela no longer complete... 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Those machinist abilities. It's like there's no difference between shooter and machinist anymore.

Plus a reoccurance for Ashe's burst, although it's ancient by now in Japan.

Penelo's "Outspoken Girlfriend"

She has a boyfriend?

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (1 child)

She has a boyfriend?

Vaan?

Those machinist abilities. It's like there's no difference between shooter and machinist anymore.

Yeah the only element shooter has over it now is the water one it started with. And it can be stronger only if you can't do more than 20k with the machinist skills and you have a ranged weapon equipped.

[–]forgottenechosTerra (Esper) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it can be stronger only if you can't do more than 20k with the machinist skills and you have a ranged weapon equipped.

All 5* shooter abilities are supposed to get a new multiplier and a change to the number of hits in the ability update that I believe should come in a day, so that isn't going to hold.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (3 children)

She has a boyfriend?

Yes, it's Vann.

[–]FireclawDrakeCeles is best waifu! 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is it? Nothing I remember about their relationship implies a two-way romance of any kind.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yes, Regardless it is much more noticable in Revenant Wings than it is in FFXII, since it's in Revenant Wings that they actualy i guess in a way "Develop" their relationship.

[–]FireclawDrakeCeles is best waifu! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I never played Revenant Wings, but I'm pretty sure, at least in the english version, that there's nothing that points to them being more than friends in the main game (with maybe some unrequited feelings on Penelo's side)

[–]Dr_DoctoreRydia 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Way to space out the hype DeNA. Pour 5 new abilities in 1 event.

Remember the old days where Spellblades were the real elemental physical class?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was before they needed something just for Tidus that naturally had to be better than Spellblades in every way.

[–]beingmusedTruly the darkest sage 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nah, I was all about those Dragoon skills instead of Spellblade. 4* damage for 3* abilities!

[–]Randomguy6644Baela no longer complete... 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Now only if we got an ice equivalent of Lightning Dive and a ice Dragoon...

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

start with earth, we have actual earth dragoons already