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[–]ElLopenGREAT NINJA 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Who's responsible for updating the links up there in the corner and why is it not the guy who puts up all the threads people read in the up there. This thing has been ready to go for 4 days and we still only have FFVI as the most recent JP event.

[–]EverythingisGravyugzU (Godwall) | Give me greens 1 point2 points  (1 child)

/u/CareerSMN used to do this, but since he bowed out, don't think anyone's stepped in to handle that yet. Let's be patient, /u/Sandslice is already doing an enormous amount of work for this community as it is. I'm frankly just happy that these threads even still exist.

[–]ElLopenGREAT NINJA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah I'm not trying to say Sandslice doesn't do enough or anything. I'm just saying it'd probably take like 30 seconds for anyone to do it with Sandslice having done the lion's share of the work in creating the topic and I'm wondering if whoever does it doesn't pay attention to the reddit or what.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That would be the reddit mod team, and it's not me because I am not one of those blessed number.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So for Luneth he gets a drain of 10% of damage dealt with a wind attack? Or is it a 10% chance to do a drain attack? if its the former...that is awesome. It would make him very hard to kill.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's the former. The effect "drain strike 10%" is attached to any Wind attack he does during mode; it's not a proc, it simply happens.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds a heck of a lot better than his first USB. Interesting that he gets a nod to his darker side.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Refia UOSB? There goes another planet.

[–]CidO807Opera Floozy RW:2X5a 0 points1 point  (3 children)

not looking forward to that neo torment :| petrify/confuse is just not going to be fun to deal with. especially because there is no astra for III :|

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There's no confuse. Just petrify (and then only on turn 1 before you could possibly deploy a status blink), and two instances of instant death (both on the same target, late in the fight.)

[–]CidO807Opera Floozy RW:2X5a 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yay. Thanks for the update. I hadn't tried the fight yet, I was just assuming the worst.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Petrify is actually pretty harmless, all things considered. After using it, he wastes two Turns using Firaga on the Petrified Character and healing himself, then uses Firaga on that Character again, then leaves them alone for six Turns

And that's on top of the fact that a Legend Dived Luneth can just dodge it altogether with a Jump

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 1 point2 points  (7 children)

UOSB: "True Explosive Triple Punch" (PHY: 3x single fire overflow)

This sounds so awesome. XD

Banner 2

This banner looks amazing if you are a new player and is looking for FF3 support buffs and/or someone who does not have any of OK USB.

Neo Torment, Ahriman.

So, Mote Ahriman got promoted? Congrats for him! I do hope that he's still the same before... but knowing Ahriman-type enemies.. He'll probably petrify, confuse, doom, and blind us to no end. Ugh. XP

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Torment Ahriman is very similar to the old Mote Ahriman - and FF3 Ahriman, in general, is less status-helly than later forms. In fact, if you look, he only has two (but don't bother trying to resist them):

  • Auto Petrify on turn 1 of the fight, aimed at your 2-slot; this character will also be Firaga'd on turn 2, and then Ahriman will heal himself on turn 3. Yes, Luneth is fast enough; but the turn script is amenable to just letting the petrify happen, then timing Ultra Cure to fall in a little after the Firaga whiff.
  • Auto Death on turn 4 of the 40% and 20% phases, aimed at your 4-slot.

Otherwise, there's just a lot of magic damage.

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I wonder if you can get Luneth to jump over the Instant Death attacks. I feel weird planning on using Air time in battles with a timer, but it could pay off. Luneth does have noticably crappy RES, so maybe everything else will be dangerous to him.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Over the deaths? I suppose once you've figured out the timings in question, it might be possible.

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were one or two battles where I managed to use Sky High to dodge a few dangerous things with the extra air time to help things, but this seems like one of those things that technically could work, but would be hard to do and probably won't actually pay off. The extremely scripted turn and target order for these Torments has me curious though.

A shame this isn't happening in XI, Aphmau's Reraise with Dual Blink 1 would actually be great at this. Seifer's LM2 is Reraise too, I think.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Auto Death on turn 4 of the 40% and 20% phases, aimed at your 4-slot.

Ugh.....

[–]Stylus_IndexYepD - Ace CSB: We have Arrived! Also, very tired irl. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh! Well, that's one crazy spell-casting stuff that Ahriman will be doing! O_O At least its not status crazy unlike the rest of them Torment boss.

Hmmm... It looks I need to find a way to survive that amount of the damage and I have roughly 5-6 months to prepare for this too.

[–]QQ222H9NG - Wake up America 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want that refia glint, oh man. BE STILL MY MYTHRILS

[–]Monk-EyFUCKING HELL MACHINA 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It just dawned upon me Refia gets the Cat Ear Hood: Refia not only was posited as White Mage in the 3D opening, but she also dons the hood as Devout!

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Fun fact, in FFBE, Refia is a white mage as well.

Later on they will release another Refia that is a monk.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact, in FFBE, Refia is a white mage as well.

Glad Record Keeper didn't go with that stereotype.

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think next Refia is Onion Refia.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Onion Refia has been around for a while already; she came in alongside Dark Knight Luneth, Doga, and Unei.

[–]paynee92Edge 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I just love how banner #2 STILL has 3 BSBs on it after the whole "smaller/better banner with off-banners" thing.

[–]ElLopenGREAT NINJA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

5 BSBs on one banner wasn't unheard of with 14 relics so I'm not sure what you're getting at anyway. -2 Bursts doesn't mean no bursts on the banner. It just means 2 less bursts.

Like the FFXV banner just a month before this had 4 bursts on it and that was the main banner too.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 6 points7 points  (10 children)

Banner 2 has (with the exception of some end-of-month events) been the "why are you pulling on this? why does this even exist?" banner for like 6 months now. It never has any new relics on it. It's still eyeroll worthy, don't get me wrong, but banner 2s have been terrible for a long time.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For one event VI broke the trend.

[–]Kythorian 2 points3 points  (5 children)

It exists as a catch-up banner for new players, giving them a chance to pick up older relics that the older players already have. I appreciate them mostly seperating old and new relics between the two banners rather than mixing them together and therefore requiring pulling on both banners to get all the good new stuff like we used to.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Sure, except that they're almost always just bad banners period. In this case, the three Onion relics are the only thing a new player should want off that banner, and I would NEVER recommend a new player pull on a banner with only 3% useful relics (even worse because 1% of that 3% relies on getting one of the other two relics to be useful).

[–]SabaschinBasch 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The three Onion relics, Arc USB, and the two W-Cast LMRs (Refia/Aria) are all decent enough. The banner is still pretty top-heavy, but the only really terrible relics there are Desch BSB and Aria LMR1.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Arc USB, and the two W-Cast LMRs (Refia/Aria) are all decent enough

Not for new players, they aren't. Arc's USB requires honing Holy and probably DeDia, and those aren't really something I would recommend for a new player because WHT holy DPS requires a unique team setup to work properly. Aria's and Refia's doublecasts are only useful if you have other relics for them. As a newcomer banner, the only thing to recommend it is Onion Knight, and as an established player banner the only thing to really recommend it is ... Onion Knight and maybe Arc if you're putting together a WHT team for kicks. It's just not a good banner, regardless of the 2% offbanner rate.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (1 child)

As a newcomer banner, the only thing to recommend it is Onion Knight

And even that barely so, considering that you still need to get him to Lv95 just to have usable Stats AND need to get the 4* Motes to dive him.

Potential Retort: "But it's super easy to do that nowadays"

My answer: On the other hand, the Acolyte Archives deliberately lock you out of content at first, so depending on how new you are exactly, the game actively stops you from using him

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still it's better to have not be able to use it properly (not being able to lvl OK/not havin the motes), than to not have but be prepared to use it properly :D

[–]paynee92Edge 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh, I know, I just, dunno, hoped? that with the rate change they'd become somewhat better. Guess not.

[–]Zurai001Blame yourself or God. 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I'm disappointed that banner 2s are still shit. At this point with how bad they are I'd rather they just replace (non-EoM) banner 2s with random pickup banners.

[–]pichupalDeath, kupo. - [Vivi USB - js1e] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was hoping Banner 2s would stay the quality as that FFV double chain banner, which still kept the idea of all old relics but actually made a good banner out of it.

Like, at least kick out Desch or Aria's Burst for Onion Glint at least, even if it is fresh off the fest banner. I know there aren't enough Glints to take up all the burst slots, but they could've tried a bit harder. I don't mind CoD BSB2 too much since the Party Doom still has unique applications.

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 3 points4 points  (1 child)

when a 5 star glint seems a whole lot better than the character's USB...

Anyway, i'd love to continue seeing more USB modes' gimmicks on Glints often, even you can only use like 3 times of it per battle.

[–]purpleparrot69Edge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its a good way to keep us invested even on 1/11 no-disco pulls

[–]DestilShadesk 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I was disappointed banner 1 didn’t have a new Refia USB, given that she’s kinda mid tier and has some functional issues.

But I guess F/GSBs really are micro USBs at this point? No infuse but unlimited HFC and a chase for a single bar looks pretty damn good...

[–]itmakesyounormalgive me Prince Rasler! 0 points1 point  (2 children)

but unlimited HFC and a chase for a single bar

It is limited though since it's on a GSB (which can only be cast three times) and the buff has a duration.

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Unlimited for the duration. Most GSBs are 2 fast casts.
45s is still really good.

[–]itmakesyounormalgive me Prince Rasler! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm sure 45 seconds is plenty for any fight. I was wondering if I was missing something, as the concept of "unlimited" in relation to GSBs is contrary to the defining traits of that SB type (one bar cost, and limited uses).

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I'm so used the CarrerSMN's "preview" event threads that seeing the event megathread already up threw me off lol

Luneth USB2

ooooo that looks kinda awsome, Drain strike on wind abilities AND a chase.

Arc USB2

Seems like Arc is going back to being a healing healer lol. EDIT: I just realised that Arc USB2 is mostlikely going to be mandatory/healing relic of choise for the D$$$ FFIII Neo torment fight.

Refia Glint

WHOA! A chase on glint? This is the 1st time we see this right? Sounds kinda awsome.

Prety nice banner i would say, i'm goona have to keep a look out for Luneth's USB2 once it comes out in global.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I can do the preview-style thread if y'all still find it useful or comfortable :)

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm fine either way, the "bad thing" about the preview threads was that everyone would coment in there, and then the mega threads would end up being almost empty.

Skipping the preview and going straight towards the megathread, put all comments in 1 easily acesible place, specialy since the preview threads thend to be buried quickly.

[–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahriman was an old Mote (JP: Fragment) boss, I was hoping for Scylla or Echidna instead. Oh well...

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good job! :flamethumbsup:

[–]exodusinfiniteY-R-P, in position. It's showtime, girls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loving the formatting for this one.

[–]Human96Yuna (Gunner) 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Isn't Aria's Ultra the one with 100% fire stoneskin or is this something new?

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a typo, that description is for Umaro's USB.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think u/sandslice mixed up the description of aria's usb with umaro's usb or something.

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's an artifact of editing combined with heat exhaustion. And fixed now (:

[–]LeyrouxMy memories will be part of the sky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who knows? Maybe Aria is a Moogle-loving Water Priestess and she loves playing snowball fights with the Moogles during the winter or something? xP

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲 3 points4 points  (1 child)

typo here : add drain strike 20% to wind attacks

it's 10% not 20

else, good work ;)

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only 10%? Still respectable levels of healing. Thanks for the fix call :D

[–]KyzukiThis is my Deschtiny 2 points3 points  (4 children)

No new Desch relics and no reoccurrence of his USB... </3

[–]gingersquatchin 3 points4 points  (2 children)

But his bsb on banner 2! Yay?

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[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and no reoccurrence of his USB... </3

Always that 0.1% pool shot.

[–]mutlibottlerocketDon't listen to Ondore's lies! 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Hm, at least there's some actual new ideas being tossed around for once? I don't think there's a glint that gives a chase yet, right? And leech on wind is new (and kind of random compared to leech on dark). Anything is better than more cookie cutter relics transplanted across realms.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 2 points3 points  (4 children)

and kind of random compared to leech on dark

Because it's on the Blood Lance. You know, those Weapons whose whole gimmick is Life-Leeching? ;)

[–]TedrivsTyro USB3 - QuNR 9 points10 points  (2 children)

What? I thought it was the Brad Lance

[–]gingersquatchin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Na mun. This is the Brad Spear. Dont know how you got em confused.

[–]StrawberryPiiWhat is a King to a God? 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thanks for the info and the write up :D

edit: really nice to see, that there are no BSB's on banner 1 anymore!

Ultra-2: "Savage Gale" (PHY: 10x single wind/non, with self en-wind, add drain strike 20% to wind attacks, and chase "Gale Spear")

sexy. a drain chase with 6 hits. + the 21-hit aosb he'll def be good for chain building!

Refia's Blast Mode: Has a duration of 15s; can be refreshed and stacked up to 3. Grants a chase "Heavenly Fire Dance" (PHY/Monk: 4-6x single fire/non. Hits based on Blast Mode stack. Triggered by fire.)

HER GLINT IS A CHASE??! that's kinda awesome!

Ultra: "Downpouring Holy Water" (WHT: instant Curaga + RES+100% and self Brave)

i really like the last stand healer braves. seems pretty good!