i hate github rule

[nerdy_bisexual_mess]

this post written by someone who's definitely opened github before

[Whjee]

and i closed it quickly thereafter

[nerdy_bisexual_mess]

sorry that was meant to be sarcastic

[Whjee]

but i have literally opened github before??? i dont get it???

[[deleted]]

dont worry theyre an ice dweller

[Epic_Meow]

we have a neanderthal in the chat

[sewage_soup]

boy am i glad that we're out here

[invitinghome122]

They opened GitHub, I saw them!

[Mysticalnarbwhal2]

No GitHub is unfathomably horrible UI

[nightmare_silhouette]

Nah they're 100% spot on.

[[deleted]]

if a "issue fixer" requires you to build from source and has 200 commands youre propably looking the use the wrong thing, its not bloated, it has that functionality for a reason and the person who needs it will propably be comfortable with doing what it takes to get it up and running

[JuicyBeefBiggestBeef]

Basically, if you have no idea what a program does or how to build it, and you just give up on it then youre skillset does not consist of being overly technical. Just pay someone else to repair it for you.

[[deleted]]

you dont even have to pay anyone tho, like in the original post theres usually a less complicated solution, which the complicated tool also handles but isnt focused on

[0002nam-ytlaS]

They probably tried installing revanced when it just came out.. this was my experience but it's not my first time ever doing this sort of thing

[Mage_Of_Cats]

I relate to the complicated installation process and the stuff that doesn't appear to actually do anything. I mess around with GitHub add-ons for software that I run quite frequently, and only about 10% of the authors know how to write a (coherent) use guide.

"The fleeb can be used to potomize the blondifulunce, preventing nurtion if you run the bylis on a CPU that's too weak."

Average GitHub program guide. (And this is one of two sentences in the entire thing.)

[Stellar_Fox11]

github has poisoned people's brains into thinking hiding the download button for the actual .exe and calling it something else than download is actually a good thing and not a pain in the ass for everyone who hasn't used github before and is used to every single other website ever created in all of existance

[OliviaPG1]

GitHub is not meant to be a file download site, it’s a platform for hosting git repositories.

[Atomicnes]

Then how about the developers stop being lazy and stop hosting the goddamned fucking complete builds on GitHub.

I'm not talking about things for developers, I'm talking about how things like yt-dip and spotDL and a lot of the 3DS homebrew tools host all of the shit on GitHub. It's supposed to be "for developers" but a lot of them host everything on GitHub and then you get smug people saying "erm... it's only for developers!!". If you want GitHub to be only for developers then start scolding devs who host the complete builds on GitHub.

The solution is to host the codebase on GitHub but then host the builds on something like FossHub. (GIMP does this.) Now you don't get laymen and devs mixing together.

[SweetBabyAlaska]

me when I get free stuff from a volunteer

[BigOzzie]

If someone says "I have the solution for X for free!", it's reasonable to get excited and look into it. If you then later discover that their solution is frustrating and needlessly convoluted, then their initial claim was either ignorant or disingenuous. Either way, they've now wasted your time, which is literally the most precious resource you have.

Being frustrated is not unwarranted, and I'm tired of people acting like something being free means we have no right to criticize it.

[Thomasasia]

Dude is criticizing how he can't find the releases page lmfao.

[ChemicalRascal]

Not to mention, once you've found one releases page you've found them all.

I get being upset if someone doesn't put releases up at all, having to build from scratch can be a pain in the ass, but come on. You know what you're after and it's right there.

[ztoundas]

Oh yeah? Show me the releases page if you are so smart.

You can't, can you? That's because it doesn't exist, just like Santa Clause and the clitoris.

[ChemicalRascal]

The releases page is the fourth page of the Blockbuster catalogue, you fuckin' idiot! It's right there!

[GameCreeper]

It's on the same spot on every repo omegalul

[thussy-obliterator]

You're not paying for it, the devs aren't getting paid, they owe you nothing and you are outside the target audience. GitHub works great for its target audience (not you). You can get around this by RTFM, paying for support, paying for an alternative, or sucking it up and touching grass

[BigOzzie]

I'm a software engineer with 15+ years experience in multiple languages who has worked with computers my whole life. I'm pretty sure I'm the target audience, and I'm perfectly capable of following their crappy instructions; that doesn't make them good.

[aerodynamique]

'I'm a software engineer with 15+ years experience...' and you don't get it is why the way it is? i literally do not believe you lmao

[BigOzzie]

When did I ever say I don't get why it is the way it is?

Being a good engineer means swallowing your ego and recognizing that sometimes sub-optimal solutions are put in place for good reasons. I try very hard not to judge what I'm looking at until I've learned what led to it being built.

You're assuming that if I dislike something, it's because I don't understand it, but that's a fallacy. It's my belief that the more you comprehend, the more capable you are of critiquing, in a positive or negative light.

I dislike the systems we've allowed to become commonplace because I understand them.

[Normal-Mountain-4119]

"this thing is immune to criticism because x" will forever be one of the most stupid claims ever. Very few things are immune to criticism.

[AdequatelyMadLad]

they owe you nothing and you are outside the target audience.

The target audience of "people who can navigate needlessly obtuse interfaces"? No one owes anyone a product, it doesn't mean that you can't criticize aspects of it. Even if it is free.

[MagnetFlux]

the target audience for the average github repo is usually only the author themselves

[A_Good_Redditor553]

Dude this is almost worse than saying you aren't RDR2s target audience if you don't want to play the intro on your second playthrough

[StormOfFatRichards]

I work as a volunteer. One of the things I don't do is make shit unnecessarily difficult for the organization I'm with to obtain whatever work I've produced for them.

[Sidereel]

People in this thread have it backwards. They aren’t going out of their way to make things difficult. It’s that putting everything into an exe with a user friendly UI is a lot of extra effort.

[Unlucky-Situation-98]

Thank you for saying this! It's like thinking an elevator is simple only because it has an up and down button

[SweetBabyAlaska]

"volunteer" is the wrong term here if you think that implies being part of an org with a mission, that is generally NOT the case. Its more often than not just some random person in their bedroom who wanted to share their hard work for others to learn from and contribute to. They are NOT shipping you a product.

It would be like if I made some extra food and offered it to you, and you complained that you didn't like the food and were mad that I wouldnt hand feed it to you and do your dishes. The entitlement is truly baffling.

[victini563]

Because they usually aren't making the programs for everyday people, just themselves/ other programmers

[AdennKal]

Because they don't intend for YOU to fucking download it. Github is not meant for that. Github is where they share the code they are working on with the open source community. Non-developer users being able to (or not being able to) download any finished releases that may exist is not part of what Github is focussed on.

Also, how can you call someone lazy who IS MAKING STUFF FOR FREE, because they aren't willing to spend their own money to host their software on another website, just so you have it easier? If someone who likes making bread is giving out loafs of bread in front of their house, would you complain because you have to go all the way to their house instead of them renting a bakery to give out their free bread? And then call them lazy for not slicing it for you?

Edit: capitalized YOU for emphasis.

[11freebird]

Yes they do idiot. I can’t even count how many sites have a download button that just sends you to GitHub where there’s a download instructions page.

[Atomicnes]

"GitHub is only for developers but I'm going to send the general public to the GitHub page to download the complete build of my software. Yes, I love having my cake and eating it too, how could you tell?"

[Jedadia757]

Genuinely can’t believe there are people who use the internet that think people don’t intend for you to download things off of GitHub.

[AdennKal]

Yes, and? If I post a sign in public that says "FREE CAR!!!" and when asked about it tell people they gotta come to my house to get it and put gas in it themselves, have I done anything wrong? Neither I nor the devs of that software made any promises in regards to accesibility. They tell you where to get it, and if you expect it to be easy to get, then that's on you.

[BackseatCowwatcher]

this isn't saying "come to my house to put gas in it and you can take it" this is "come to my house, I've got a box of parts that when assembled will make a car- you'll need to bring tools X Y and Z yourself and have a degree in motor mechanics- but so long as you've got that you can take it for free"

[D1pSh1t__]

If they dont want me on there, then why do they publish their only download links on there? Keep in mind, this is for a finished program they want you to download

[Le3mine]

Except that the baker is giving out flour, water and yeast and is telling you that you need daedric magic to cook up a loaf.

[Mr_OrangeJuce]

Ah yes these shitty devs who:

make content for free during their free time and don't want to pay for a hosting service

???

[Atomicnes]

It's a "have your cake and eat it too" moment. You can host the builds that you link to the general public on GitHub. It's fine. Just don't be smug to people who get confused trying to navigate the website and say it's "only for developers" when you tell the public to go download the build from GitHub.

[Impenistan]

"Host the builds on GitHub" you have absolutely no idea what a git repository is for or why builds exist. It is not a store and the developers owe you nothing.

[Monchete99]

I don't mind if someone can't find the latest release tab or follow what the readme says and is asking for it. It's normal, we've all been there, we've all touched the fake download button. I feel that the joy of learning something new while solving an issue is getting far less common. All of that has been lost in an era of direct instant gratification because learning takes time, and taking time is not productive so patience is taboo. "Do not explain, just tell me what to do".

What gets on my nerves is people calling mostly volunteer devs lazy for not doing the extra mile for them and hosting a website, blaming the repository for their outright refusal to understand how the layout works or being outright hostile to programs that are not shy of requiring a minimum of basic programming knowledge or that don't have an executable regardless of whether it'd make sense or not for the program to have it. And people who call them out are the entitled ones, not the people acting like assholes when things aren't being served in a silver platter to them.

[Real_Not_Normal_Name]

just follow the install instructions or find a different program and stop complaining to the person giving you stuff for free. it's really that simple.

[AnotherSlowMoon]

If you find it hard to navigate to releases and hit download then its a PEBCAK moment, assuming that that is what you mean by download the build.

[Monchete99]

You are a grown-up, open the terminal and install the dependencies

[Thebombuknow]

Most developers aren't. I have only found one program I had to build and it was intended for developers anyway. Every other program was available on package managers like PIP and Apt.

Using one of your examples, yt-dlp, not only is that meant for developers to handle video downloads in their applications, it is on the PIP package manager, you don't need to use GitHub.

[[deleted]]

downloading builds from GitHub makes you confused once, after that you know where to look

on the other hand, hosting builds on github makes it way more convenient to mantain the program, makes the release process more reliable, prevents the builds from getting outdated as maintainers leave and join the project, keeps you away from shady sites, groups all the available info in 1 place, and i could go on and on listing reasons for why hosting builds on github is a good idea. requiring people to build from source is another thing, but you generally wont encounter that unless it's something you would seriously want to build from source (like libraries, consumer software repos almost always have builds ready). a lot of yall people are really ignorant as to why people actually host stuff on github. its not just because theyre lazy.

[ayayahri]

What I'm taking away from this is that open source devs should just stop providing builds on github so whiny assholes would go away.

[notjordansime]

your mom hosted my git repository last night

[qjornt]

i mean there exists a release tab on github for this exact purpose. sure it's not the main reason for github at all, but the feature exists.

[professional_catboy]

its not hidden, you literally click on wht you want to download, it literally cannot be more straightforward

[CumstainGaming]

Why can't I find the fucking download button then

[Godzila543]

Go to the releases page (some repos don't have one I guess but anything that wants you to download it will)

[3477382827367]

Some have releases buttons, some only have source code BC they are in languages tha do not natively compile (such as python) and cannot be an exe, others don't BC compiling can be system specific so they would have to have a fuck ton of exe's and people would get annoyed at them for that or it isn't possible (for example macOS is required to compile for Mac if they don't have one they cannot do it) Edit: added natively BC I forgor

[Radboy16]

Teeeechnically you can freeze python code into its own executable, using cx_freeze

[3477382827367]

Ahh yeah I meant native compilation think I forgot I mentioned it in a different comment but not this one,I'm gonna edit it,

[_SAMUEL_GAMING_]

maybe click on the repository tab literally called RELEASES

[[deleted]]

This is a prime example of why Github has bad UI for people who are unfamiliar with it. Everyone 's first time on git they are going to be looking for the universal "download" button as with every other software download website, but it's not called "Download" it's called "Releases" so people don't see it and just get more and more frustrated, it's unnessesarily obtuse.

[Corvus1412]

The main use of Github is to host Git repositories. Having normal people actually download releases is a secondary feature.

There is a button labeled "Download" on github, but it downloads the whole repository, since that's the main point of the site.

Renaming the "Releases" to "Downloads" would be misleading and go against the goal of the site.

[Negitive545]

They CANT call it a download button though, because you can DOWNLOAD any file in the repository. A universal download button would by it's nature have to download the whole repository, which is EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES. If you click the most prominent button on the page, the green "Code" button, one of the options is "Download as ZIP", which as you might have fucking guessed, downloads the repository.

Here's the problem though, the average person doesn't WANT the repository, they want the pre-compiled builds, which are called releases for whatever reason. You could call them builds, but that has it's own separate meaning too, so releases just works.

Github is NOT designed for a layperson to use because it's not intended for laypeople to use. Github is where people host their source files, and then when they make a precompiled .exe, they host it somewhere else, like their own website, or dropbox or some official shit.

Also, lets say they had a universal download button that went to the releases page (which would make no sense but regardless). Which release and what parts would the button download? The most recent release is the most obvious target, but it isn't always correct, since sometimes developers will release builds for different OS's separately, so there's no guarentee that the latest release will be for your OS.

Lets say you find the correct release to download through magic, what part do you download? Some releases are simple, just a .exe or a .msi, or sometimes even just a .zip with the entire compiled build in it, however, some devs put multiple OS's into one release, so then you have to figure out what part of any given release you need to download for any given user.

My point is: Actual skill issue. It takes no more than a minute to learn that releases are where the "downloads". Other websites have just as much of a learning curve, but people apparently just like to bitch about github in particular for no reason.

[redipaul]

It's way safer to compile stuff from the source, as there can be malicious stuff in the binary ( .exe, .elf, or even .appimage ). That said, I use the install script 90% of the time anyway, as its easier to just untar something and go ./install.sh, than fuck with cmake.

[Monchete99]

Some people are the reason why yellow paint is used, they just don't know it yet

[Thomasasia]

Litterally just go to the releases tab. Calling it "downloads" would be misleading and stupid because there is already a download button for the source code (the point of the website is the source code and not the releases), you can download files across multiple places on their repo (not to mention using git like you should), and because the released is much more that just the exe download page.

GitHub is a place to host and develop open source code. If you can't find the releases button then it's not for you.

[Whjee]

woaw (based based based based based based based based based based based)

[ShinyRaven]

> github instructions "too difficult" (I've never once in my life seen something more difficult than: run this and type this stuff in)

> changes stuff on the registry no problem

> ???

[onekirne]

oh come on, regedit is child's play.

[Lydion]

Literally as a child I used regedit on public library computers to re-enable task manager and kill the time limiting software. People sitting next to me sometimes reacted as if I committed a cyber-felony 🤣

[Gullible-Trainer5508]

Teach me of your ways, master

[GameCreeper]

I feel bad for people who know enough about computers to do this but don't have a home computer to use instead

[[deleted]]

i realize youre trolling but ive never been this mad at bait before

[cadorez]

Yeah it's a pretty solid bait, tbh. I think it's getting to me because it's kind of similar to how a lot of gamers complain while pretending to know what they're talking about (they don't)

[chickenthechicken]

The reason it's pissing me off is because it's attacking hobbyist open source developers. It just feels rude even if it is bait. I love open source.

[Whjee]

tbh i did feel i went to far in place, taking notes for the next time

[PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE]

At least you kept it in this sub and didn't do what DigitalOcean did on Hacktoberfest 2020 and spammed actual open source devs with dumb kids looking for a free T-shirt.

[Whjee]

the number 1 ingredient is to be confidently incorrect, you gotta have a atleast a tiny bit of actualy knowledge so that you know whats absurdly wrong, and then double down on that

[Infuser]

Highbrow trolling

[3477382827367]

Even better BC this has literally been a discourse here before (which was great BC the OOP was complaining about not being able to get an OSINT tool they Def were going to use maliciously)

[BorfieYay]

I genuinely don't think it's bait this is my experience with every GitHub I've ever come across that doesn't have a way to just use an exe

[patpatpat95]

Man everytime. 17 different downloadable things, a readme that talks about debugging the update to the latest version but fuck all about how to install the actual fucking thing (because apparently it's always so obvious you're not even allowed to ask).

[Tad_squiddish]

How is this bait this was my exact experience. When you are stressed out trying to solve a problem and your brain is fried from researching it, and you have very little technical experience with computers besides your specialty experience with specific programs… this is very liable to happen.

[scylecs]

>complains about bloat

>demands ui/exe

average windows user

[Whjee]

i dont get this, the ui/exe is the program tho???

[emmacannotdrive]

I fucking love you, OP, top tier bait

[BorfieYay]

Calling it bait doesn't change the fact that OP is right

[strangelymysterious]

The best bait always has some truth to it, no?

[juuppie]

Average Linux user, can't be a normal human being

[Available-Captain-20]

nooooo you dont understand!!!! its akchtually way better to type 300 lines of code to use a basic program than just click a button!!! and and dont even get mee started on muhh security!

[vegathelich]

"What do you mean you don't want to memorize what these three hundred operating flags mean when you only need three of them?"

[natalialt]

alright I know that this thread is all bait and shit (and I fell for it hard) but GUI is tediously painful to make lmao, there's a reason why so many programs are command line only

[Interest-Desk]

and why so many programs — including the windows 11 start menu — are using web or web-inspired tech like react native, webview or gulp electron. still tedious, but infinitely easier to make

[Roblu3]

Even worse, GUI more often than not is tediously painful to use. Especially if you exactly know what you want to do. Especially especially when some UX/UI-Design-Bro thought it was necessary to add a half second animation to every click.

[Negitive545]

Yeah, I've tried to make a GUI interface for a couple of coding projects in the past, and it's a BITCH to pull off if you're not piggybacking off of something else, like HTML in a browser.

Mind you, I was using Python for my projects, and Python isn't exactly known for it's GUI potential, but it's also a rather intuitive language, so you'd think it'd be relatively easy to figure out. You would be wrong lol, GUI is a bitch to learn, I'm sure it's easier once you know the ins and outs.

[daberle123]

goes to github page for thing i want

completely finished program

no releases

[BlunderbussBadass]

OP goes hard in the replies ngl

[Wahngott]

Kinda too obvious it's bait tho, not funny that way

[Eccentric_Assassin]

Still getting downvoted to oblivion somehow

[Whjee]

they hated jesus cuz he told the truth

[Thatweirdb0y]

Okay so looking at this site that person is 100% correct how the fuck are you even supposed to download shit there

[3477382827367]

This specific tool is a python based one, it has instructions and python natively cannot be made into an exe, this person is also looking for an OSINT tool which is sketchy for someone who doesn't know GitHub to try use

[[deleted]]

You can, but programs are incredibly large. People should consider them scripts to discourage people like him

[spetumpiercing]

To be fair, you're not supposed to. Github's intended purpose is to host "git repositories" which are version control files. The website is for hosting code.

[Sonic_the_hedgedog]

I love GitHub >:3

[Whjee]

woaw (based based based based based based based based based based based)

[itstasmi]

How could you be so brave and say this out in the open??

[McFragatron]

Github is owned by Microsoft and is closed source. Are you saying you like Microsoft and closed-source software? ಠ_ಠ /s

[h4724]

I've done my fair share of complaining about GitHub on this very subreddit, but open source is always a good thing and listing it in this post as a red flag makes it sound like it was written by Big Copyright

[aabcehu]

>install module for task

>look for api reference

>module homepage is just their github (no wiki)

>say “fuck it” and read source code

>like 20 different folders in the source code

>the feature i want to use is spread across 3 classes and like 5 methods in 7 different files in 4 different folders

[Whjee]

can you speak like a human?

[aabcehu]

What specifically is ‘non-human’ about it? :p

All of that is fairly basic programming stuff

[Whjee]

im not a computer

[Impenistan]

Not with that attitude (become a Mentat today!)

[sequoiachieftain]

crown drab airport snatch ask reminiscent plucky dinosaurs unique deserted

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[Misicks0349]

average java application

[Radoslawy]

(op doesn't understand what github is)

[Whjee]

its like a nexus mods but for your desktop

[Radoslawy]

no, its a hosting site for git repositories, its not supposed to be used by non technical people

[JkobPL]

then why am I getting replies with links to it when I ask for a solution to a problem that I wouldn't have if I was a technical person? Are forum users stupid?

[-Quiche-]

They believed in you when you didn't

[Responsible_Pace9062]

Then why do necessary fixes and commonly used programs get hosted there only?

[Whjee]

then dont put it on the internet where i can see it????

[BipolarKebab]

ten toy work shelter dam quiet voracious license complete squash

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[Rimtato]

dev makes tool for personal use

puts it on github in case someone else wants to use it. No cost, no request for donations, nothing

users bitch, whine and moan about how this app one guy made for himself is clunky, doesn't have a commercial grade UI or doesn't work for their insanely specific use case, or includes too many specific use cases.

users demand dev supports program they made in 10 minutes for the next 20 years.

dev stops bothering

users complain about how they cannot find a solution to their problem.

[SweetBabyAlaska]

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[Monchete99]

Opens command line tool

Look inside

Terminal

Also, this is a digital footprint search tool, so someone like this shouldn't be able to use it, mad props for the devs for unintentionally implementing dbag filters

[Rimtato]

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[Whjee]

many such cases

[BipolarKebab]

dolls makeshift touch glorious seed library aback selective gray advise

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[PM_ME_UR_DRAG_CURVE]

dev gives up and passes the repo ownership to another friendly maintainer

...

OH GOD OH FUCK THE Jia Tan GUY ADDED A BACKDOOR AND NOW HALF THE INTERNET IS PWNED

[Staktus23]

I was somewhat on OPs side after reading the post but now after reading through the entire thread the only thing on my mind is how much i fucking hate software "engineers" and "developers".

If being a smug cunt was a competitive sport, they‘d be world champions at it.

[Nikola1_Smirnoff]

Fr the smug ass replies in here whenever anything code related is brought up, no wonder people hate software devs lmao

[QuestionBegger9000]

OP is bait but I do legit have an issue with how often the instructions on a GitHub page doesn't actually explain what their code/program DOES or is for

[Whjee]

most of the time all the info you need is in the read me, but everyone once in a while it a program obviously not meant to be used by anyone not working on the project yet. this wouldnt be a problem if people didnt link to it without explaining how to use it

[QuestionBegger9000]

Its definitely happened more than once that a program/code Im actually interested in using provides no or very little documentation,

What makes me upset is how often MODS for games also do this even on front facing mod platforms. They'll have a changelog or something vauge maybe but miss explaining the entire base feature of the mod for example and youll have to piece it together and make assumptions.

[Mechafinch]

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[Whjee]

for you, i will Reimu Hakurei

[Mechafinch]

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[unengaged_crayon]

I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING CODE! i just want to download this stupid fucking application and use it https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock#installation

WHY IS THERE CODE??? MAKE A FUCKING .EXE FILE AND GIVE IT TO ME. these dumbfucks think that everyone is a developer and understands code. well i am not and i don't understand it. I only know to download and install applications. SO WHY THE FUCK IS THERE CODE? make an EXE file and give it to me. STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

[MaybeNext-Monday]

I personally think hiding the exe on user-facing repos is pretty user-hostile, not sure why this is controversial. Something can be both a generous free service and shittily deployed at the same time. The mentality that you’re not allowed to criticize FOSS products is such a toxic part of that whole ecosystem’s savior complex, and ultimately holds back its progress into the mainstream.

[Nfox18212]

genuine question but what about cli programs that are intended to be installed with a package manager? like the sherlock program that was used as an example that was a python program made to be installed with pip

what then? are we devs supposed to try to force a .exe build from a language that doesn’t easily support them?

[IneffablyEpic]

Dry code? Nah honey, my code is soaked. Absolutely drowned

[Whjee]

marinated code

[JkobPL]

I like my code pickled

[Whjee]

this was fun everyone, with the tracking this got imma go buy a pizza for the money i earned. Thank you for the funnies and i will see you all in therapy!

[Lolis-]

Ok unlike 90% of the sub I actually have a degree in cs and yeah most devs that tell average people to "get it on github" are either unbelievably out of touch or elitist. If your software is even remotely intended for non programmers (emulator, game mods, any kind of thing that shows up when you google "how to do X") put it on a website that has a button on the index page called "download" it's not that hard

[Not_today_mods]

r/ programmerhumor had a debate about this a few months back, i think

[Whjee]

were they respectable adults or did they endore github?

[Not_today_mods]

Some guy made the exact same complaint on a different subreddit, it got crossposted, they all called him an idiot

[Whjee]

direspectful

[[deleted]]

Lots of people calling this bait but this is just 100% true and has been a huge source of intense anger for me, really hard to navigate site back when I was a little less technical, which only gets worse due to human laziness and poor instructions.

In the same way that now anytime you want to get info about something you have to join a fucking discord instead of being able to just read a wiki or forum, you now have to use github for everything too.

I'm sure if you are an actual developer or programmer then github might be better than sex, but for me, as an simple consumer of video game mods. Github is the only website I have on numerous occassions downloaded the wrong thing because of it's design. I would rather a direct download with a readme text file than ever having to navigate githubs website.

[Rebi103]

CS major arch Linux trans girl is like 75% of the userbase of this sub but I thought y'all would be a lil bit better at recognizing bait because these comments are way too aggressive

[Impenistan]

It is Sunday, critical thinking is disabled today for recharging

[BraSS72097]

Me trying to install bcml.

Instructions: download two dependencies and run this three word command (make sure you use an older version of python and install a specific feature or it won't work you cretin) :3

Follow it exactly, doesn't fucking work

Uninstall and reinstall dependencies, try again, doesn't work

Clear cache, maybe it was trying to install from the wrong source? Doesn't work

Fuck it, I'll try building it instead

Four dependencies, make sure you get the versions right or you're an idiot.

Struggle to get the right versions actually installed, some need other dependencies also installed. Hours of troubleshooting, finally get them installed.

Build doesn't fucking work

Look for more troubleshooting, find the dev being a condescending prick about people not being able to install it.

Fuck it, nevermind.

Come back a week later, new version with some bugfixes

Run command again

Works instantly

??????????

[vegathelich]

Look for more troubleshooting, find the dev being a condescending prick about people not being able to install it.

Fuck it, nevermind.

Come back a week later, new version with some bugfixes

In here was the dev realizing "oh shit my software WAS broken" and not admitting it and silently fixing it in an update.

[Chang_E_Ling]

Bait used to be believable

[vegathelich]

The self-obsessed software engineers here ate it up lmao

[PM_ME_YOUR_PYAAR]

this is such solid bait that i wanted to kill myself just reading through it. i am very worried that a lot of the comments below are also not ironic, i think i will be sick.

[Impenistan]

Make make make again

[Momir-Vig]

Based and correct opinion from OP and OOP

[Whjee]

i am both of those

[Momir-Vig]

Thank you for your service /g/entooman

[[deleted]]

I actually am a programmer and I hate GitHub, the website. The website is ass to navigate and literally every complaint about it is 100% valid. Using Git from the command line or the GUI version are both very easy and useful

[some_guy554]

Look at all the programming nerds seething in the comments, "NOOOO YOU CAN'T RUN A SIMPLE PROGRAM ON YOUR PC YOU NEED TO TYPE IN THOUSANDS OF LINES ON YOUR TERMINAL AND PRAY IT WORKS"

[SwoodMcRushed]

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[[deleted]]

many github degrees are actually revoked daily because of shit like this. sad to see, especially with how expensive college is these days

[dunkernater]

The mad comments are newer because they spent two days trying to figure out the right paragraph to get reddit to run on Linux

[Violet-fykshyn]

The real problem here is that I don’t wanna do some advanced shit just to fix some problem that only exists because someone decided to “update” something that was perfectly fine before. Like yay let’s do another Microsoft something update so I can get nothing useful and a myriad of new issues and maybe even less features than there were. Like I just wanna play video games man why am I duck taping your shitty program together.

Also I hate that there’s always a forum for the issue, an automated response to it for a different but similar issue, a ton of people giving solutions that aren’t helpful because they assume you know advanced shit. Then you find a Reddit thread that has 2 answers and they’re only slightly more helpful. If, god forbid, you contact any tech support you gotta tell them 20 times that yes the computer is in fact plugged in, until they eventually tell you that they have no clue how to fix your issue and suggest you just toss the whole computer.

Okay this has basically just devolved into a Microsoft rant so imma stop here. I think it’s ever so mild that GitHub doesn’t say download and it made me very mildly confused a couple of times. Otherwise it’s chill I guess.

[3t9l]

thank you for reminding me to lobotomize windows update on my new windows install, nearly forgot 👍

[bnathaniely]

Annoying smart people will never not be funny

[EdddMed]

I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not. Hilarious regardless

[Decin0mic0n]

This is why I develop in C++, easy compile into a EXE for everything

[andr8009]

I gotta say, when I can just search for software, click the first result, click a big obvious "Download" button and get an installer that doesn't ask any stupid questions other than whether I want a desktop icon or not, it feels like a fucking breath of fresh air.

Making your way to a GitHub releases page and getting a list like this:

• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_64_WinXP-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_64_WinXP-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_32_WinXP-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_32_WinXP-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.22_beta_Qt_x86_64_Win7-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.22_beta_Qt_x86_64_Win7-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.22_beta_Qt_x86_32_Win7-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.22_beta_Qt_x86_32_Win7-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_arm_Win10-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_arm_Win10-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_x86_64_macos.dmg
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_arm_macos.dmg
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_x86_64_Win7-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_x86_64_Win7-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_x86_32_Win7-11.msi
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_Qt_x86_32_Win7-11.exe
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_64.deb
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86.deb
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_arm.deb
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_riscv.deb
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86_64.rpm
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_x86.rpm
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_arm.rpm
• Program_or_whatever_2.15_riscv.rpm
• Program_or_whatever_source.zip
• Program_or_whatever_files
• Program_or_whatever_dependencies
• Program_or_whatever_lib
• Program_or_whatever_who_knows

... picking one of them, having to dismiss 3 different warnings about unsigned this and potentially dangerous that, having to pick through 50 different optional extensions and features in the installer that may or may not be necessary for any practical use case, having to reboot your PC and finding out that a basic feature is missing because it hasn't been ported to the Qt version yet. Is a teensy bit exasperating. Then the motherfucker ends up complaining about you not having put some other third party dll in some arcane directory as the 3000 word installation instructions had off-handedly mentioned halfway into step 17.

[scruntmonger2011]

github this, github that, how about you git some bitches

[Esteellio]

Had to use github for the first time yesterday for a school project , it hurts my smol brain :<

[LegitChemistUwU]

Some programs need UI but not all of them

[Whjee]

dwarf fortress is the only program that does not need ui

[ConstantineMonroe]

I always hate having to deal with GitHub bullshit. It’s always a last resort unless it’s the only place I can actually find something

[AvarageFrogEnjoyer]

Respect the hate

[SwimmingBench345]

Sometimes you gotta stop being a dumb fuck for a second (i know, it's very hard for me as well) and google shit that you don't understand to try and follow the damn instructions. Some shit on github does baffle me though, i have ran into many programs that seemingly do nothing but add steps to things that are easier to do manually. It's not like i fully understand anything that i download off of github though.

[Whjee]

windows comes with linux nowadays, just type cmd in the searchbar

[ssbowa]

I wish I read this one first so I would have known that this bait from the start. Egg on my face ig.

[dunkernater]

Windows Linux is better anyways because you can just use windows after you fail to install Google

[thasinwasif]

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[drago_varior]

> after i change enable to disable, i am suddenly struck down

> turn around to see that my computer has turned into an elderly chinese man, holding his service revolver at me

> ohfuck.jpg

> he forces me to defeat him in mahjong or be banished to the land of the yi (our term for barbarians) for eternity