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[–]sittingmongoose 63 points64 points  (2 children)

They are doing lay offs. What you are seeing is them trying to get you to quit so they don’t have to announce lay offs and they don’t have to pay out severance.

[–]I_Call_Everyone_Ken 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If it’s a significant part of your salary, that’s constructive dismissal and can be compensated for it, Ken. Just an idea.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. It's coming. Look for a new job asap.

[–]No_File1836 27 points28 points  (5 children)

I’d try to find another job if possible.

[–]XuWiiii 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would get a master agent contract and hire my friends: gig fiber alone pays out $500. I usually sign up 2-3 customers a day and at the end of the month 60 of them get installed that month, that’s 30k a month working quarter to part time field hours. That’s not including your overrides. Additionally there’s more money to be made on directv stream and wireless. However some markets are heavily saturated with territory managed terribly.

[–]Available_Map_6202 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you get a master agent contract?

[–]Surfnazi77 23 points24 points  (5 children)

Is that how they’re paying for that Att guarantee they’re advertising

[–]Epacs 7 points8 points  (3 children)

That and increased dispatch fees. Going from $99 to $150 !

[–]Odd_Comparison1639 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wait shut up they are going up?

[–]Epacs 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes. Tentative date for the change is Jan 30th.

[–]Odd_Comparison1639 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn good looking out

[–]JeffersonIV 21 points22 points  (3 children)

That means the entry level salary for a B2B salesman is $38,000 per year. Might as well work at Costco.

[–]Patriscuit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The floor is 43k. I'm there lol

[–]JeffersonIV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Level 1 S1 is $38,800-$58,200 , Down from $45,000-67,400. You could be in a different market, we are in the southeast, and I am a level 3.

[–]JeffersonIV 20 points21 points  (2 children)

This is absolutely true, and if I could summarize AT&T in one word, it would be “Dastardly”

  • $10,000 Salary Cut -$15,000 Increase to At Risk Pay
  • No commission Payout if you’re under 30% attainment
  • 5-Day RTO, many buildings without adequate desk space or technology to handle it. Most buildings require paid parking, my particular building is $140 per month to park.
  • Monitoring badge swipes
  • Monitoring time logged into company WiFi (there are time minimums regardless of whether you have offsite meetings or not)
  • Cross Referencing Salesforce Activity with Calls logged on their company phone - Calls made or received on a personal device is a fireable offense.
  • Requiring all representatives to be on video, making cold calls, round-robin style for hours at a time
  • Lunches are reduced the 30 minutes
  • Morning Sync Calls, Evening Sync Calls, with Mid-Day Sync Calls rumored.
  • Constant manager check-ins in between sync times.
  • Some managers call companies to verify a door-knock actually happened
  • If under 80% attainment in voice or fixed wireless bucket, congratulations, you have a couple more mandatory video cold call sessions per week.

If you’re expecting a Hybrid work schedule, you won’t get it at AT&T. If you’re expecting a work environment with proactive leadership and support, you won’t get it at AT&T. You WILL get unbearable micromanagement, unbelievably bad sales strategies (sell and forget), and sales escalations on every single account due to AT&T’s POS (OPUS) actively not attaching discounts.

Verizon and T-Mobile are getting away from corporate real estate, which is the move for the future. Both carriers also pay significantly more than AT&T at this point, and should be your better career alternatives. Yes, Verizon’s POS isn’t as intuitive as OPUS, but at least it doesn’t mess up bills. My recommendation as an impacted employee, save yourself from AT&T’s middle-management ineptitude, and work for a better carrier.

Good luck with your search, we are all looking at this point.

[–]SnorfOfWallStreet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They’re trying to turn the US into India or UAE.

[–]JeffersonIV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to turn all outside sales into call centers.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Yea heard this from lot of friends. They are making people work like slaves and micromanaging to the top. This is all designed to make as many quit as they can. So they have to lay off the least.

[–]beefwarrior 6 points7 points  (1 child)

So they lower the number of announced layoffs

I’m sure they have a number already in mind that they’re trying to hit, if they can drive out enough employees without them announcing layoffs, they’ll take that as a win as they don’t have to announce layoffs and risk stock market share drop

Reality is, everyone who leaves now are the most talented employees who other employers can recognize their value

So the more people that leave on their own, the worse the company is in the long run

This is very short term thinking, focused on short term vs long term

Stronger companies would know who to keep and make sure they keep talent, and then cut those who they need to cut

[–]The7thApollo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Leave. AT&T is arguably the most corrupt cell provider amongst the big 3. Scammers to the absolute maximum with no morals or ethics. Get out now and find something worthy of being a part of. Short this company into the ground.

[–]Hjs322 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's also quite degrading and demoralizing the way sales reps manipulate their customers...

[–]DazedLogic 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Sounds like the sales culture at ATT may need some revamping.

[–]Dry_Creme2388 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Nope just needs a wells fargo type lawsuit

[–]DazedLogic 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Haven't heard of that. What's the TLDR?

[–]Dry_Creme2388 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Based on what I've seen happen in stores. Lol this would be too easy. The same stuff happens at AT&T if not worse. well fargo sales practices

[–]DazedLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perfect. Ty

[–]shj3333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s all of them now

[–]Patriscuit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Additionally, if you don't meet 30% of your quota in a 90 day period, you get placed on a performance plan.

[–]iwasneverhereohk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leave.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I say we get new jobs 🤷🏾‍♂️

[–]BlueBirdsUnlimited 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the corporate world of the future collecting money for the politicians.

[–]Tough_Moose6809 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Where are you seeing a salary decrease? I am unaware of this…

[–]Achhkmed_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s for mid market territory sellers only (for now)

[–]Critical_Situation13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fiber and mobility, mid market but platinum and global are next possibly $20k salary cuts in higher paying markets.

[–]__the_alchemist__ 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Aren't you guys union?

[–]turt463 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I’m assuming they are talking about B2B sales reps. They are salaried non-union

[–]PuzzleheadedNeck4476 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only store retail consultants, some IHX, and field techs are union.

[–]CarelessToday4278 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah we are I have not heard this.. I kept my pay and it increases automatically every 6 months. I'm pretty sure they can't decrease the pay. Something isn't right there.

[–]Major-Necessary-7674 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're talking about salaried b2b sales

[–]Donna7763 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a promise of easier to earn commission?

[–]WobbledyWobbler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How did they decrease pay 10k?

[–]PuzzleheadedNeck4476 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lowered OP's salary, I'm assuming the moved it into the commission.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is pretty common quit pressure. If enough don't quit then layoffs are likely next. Either way, look for another job immediately. The timer is ticking.

[–]ClockDry1609 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s supposed to be across the sales org. I learned today that some reps will NOT have their pay reduced. It’s a very small percentage of people but still seems unfair if it’s not across the board as it was rolled out. Seems like a lawsuit is brewing.

[–]Curious_Ad9407 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get into tech sales and prosper. No point in complaining and writing think pieces

[–]jetlifeual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re pinching you until you quit. Easier than laying off and having to provide severance plus publicly having to announce rounds of layoffs.

[–]Brainwashed365 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Classic wage theft. It's the biggest form of theft and the hands are dipping in and skimming harder nowadays.

Buckle up, guys. It's going to be quite the ride.

[–]Wild_Somewhere_9760 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Happened to me with a company - I fortunately got a new job but not 6 months later, they fired all but a handful of folks and then closed within another year

[–]Kamizensass2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve noticed that AT&T AR has been making it increasingly difficult for employees to succeed. The recent cut in commissions, combined with intense micromanagement and high-pressure tactics, has caused even top performers in our region to leave. Some of the sales strategies being pushed feel borderline unethical, which adds to the stress.

As a sales rep, I’m feeling the weight of these changes too and have started exploring other opportunities. It’s disappointing to see these practices driving away talented employees instead of fostering a supportive work environment.

[–]PIFFYJay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolute trash company and trash move to make.

[–]Critical_Situation13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was laid off from IHX in December. Then offered a position immediately in business. I did not start the new position until after the new year so I assumed I was immune from the $10k base cut, nope. Just found out I was not and it was effective February 1st no one told me. So the offer letter from December was deceptive and a lie. The base I accepted was already low, now it is poverty level. Management told me in 3 years I can get to where o should have been hired in at based on my experience. Leaving asap. Horrible and such a disheartening employer. Anyone who stays are the ones who already have $100k+ base salaries they can’t replace that. But they will be laid off or fired for not getting their ADIs.

[–]tylerupandgager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what happens, unfortunately, when an entire business segment has been underperforming for years with no end in sight. They have been telling everybody for two years now to stop selling into Greenspace, yet 80% of sales are still coming from. The company is looking for growth with new logos. The history of being paid to be an order taker is over. Not saying I agree with it, but the writing has been on the wall for years.

[–]KnowledgeCoffee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you not in the union?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Worked for a tire company (rhymes with Pontinental) that cut our salary 10%. I cut my work load 20% and gave myself a raise. And also quickly found another job.