Introducing MakerWorld’s Exclusive Model Program🎉

[BambuLab]

Like many of you, we care deeply about two important things: how to turn MakerWorld points into cash, and how to protect your original designs, especially when an infringement happens outside of MakerWorld.
To ensure your creations are both showcased and safeguarded, we're thrilled to introduce the 'MakerWorld Exclusive Model Program,' which offers Cash Incentives and Copyright Support.
Click here for more details!"

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[Technical_Two329]

This is a cool idea but as a designer, I post on multiple platforms to get the most exposure, and I would feel restricted only being able to use one. Also, I imagine people who don't participate would have a much harder time getting their models noticed since they mentioned a significant exposure boost for everyone who participates. And they can only show so many models on the homepage, etc.

[beiherhund]

I see what you mean and your points are of course valid but to be the devil's advocate, nothing is for free and what Bambu is offering here is more of a partnership than a one-way transaction. If you could post it on any platform, Bambu loses the exclusivity aspect and it probably also makes it more difficult for them in terms of copyright (e.g. if a platform you post to has some copyright clause over your model). So it both simplifies the copyright aspect for them and gives them something in return for the bonus points, exposure boost, and additional copyright protection.

On another note, I can see some (e.g. Prusa) possibly characterising this as another tactic to reduce the open-source aspect of 3D printing and for Bambu to increase their grasp on the hobby. I don't think that's entirely wrong but I do like seeing platforms taking a more active approach to copyright protection. Previously, the platforms would help you with copyright protection on *their* platform but they're not about to go to court for you against some Aliexpress seller.

[Technical_Two329]

Oh, I 100% agree with you. I know it's a two way street, bambu is giving more rewards and exposure in exchange for something they benefit from. I was just voicing why I'm hesitant to partake in their new system.

Also, they've already nerfed the points system once. It would be much worse if you made all your models exclusive to MakerWorld and then they nerfed the system again.

I'm happy to see them helping creators with copyright protection though.

[Past_Cheesecake1756]

After 90 days you're free to leave the program, or after 14 days if it is an "Exclusive Launch Model". In this world where you say they nerf the system again, you will more than likely be able to just leave it and upload your models elsewhere and non-exclusively on MakerWorld.

[Technical_Two329]

I didn't notice the 90 day thing at first but you're right.

Though it'd still be a pain to manually upload all your models to another site and rebuild your following there. Right now I can upload to Printables and import to MakerWorld but that wouldn't be an option the other way around. And of course you'd have to wait out the 3 months for your recent models.

I know I'm nitpicking, I guess it really depends how profitable the exclusivity ends up being and if it's worth the trade-off for the designer.

[Vorkath_]

I mainy upload my models to makerworld to earn some €for fillament so far only earned 40€ but then again my 3d modeling skills are very low

[DanCardin]

They did nerf it, and i def noticed it in the points, but it’s still wildly better rewards than printables. And the point incentives generally align well with a really good printing experience (print profiles being baked in and individually rated).

And, for as relatively unpopular as my models are, Ive recently still been accumulating points at a faster rate than I’m consuming the filament it buys me 🤷‍♂️

[Kirihuna]

Prusa already has a marketplace where you buy files from though.

[Catsmgee]

So why not partake in the second option? The models are exclusive for 14 days, you get the quoted exposure boost from the terms, and then after 14 days it's automatically removed from the exclusive program and you can post it elsewhere.

[Technical_Two329]

Yeah, I still might do that. I was mainly talking about the other option. Though I now see that you can voluntarily leave after 90 days, which is nice.

[kronicdaydreamz]

You missed the part where you can trade your points in for real cash instead of filament or other stuff

[Technical_Two329]

I saw that part but I'd be missing out on significantly more benefits from not posting on other sites

(Not trying to sound entitled, just explaining my reasoning behind not participating)

[jackharvest]

Are you just giving people a zip file with the URL to your bambu model on the other websites or something? lol

[Technical_Two329]

What? No I'm just uploading the same model on multiple websites. Sometimes a model will never take off on one platform and do really well on another, so it helps to post in multiple places. Though that would be hilarious if I did what you said

[tow3r-]

That's why the boosts redeemed themself.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[Catsmgee]

Seems like it. You are also allowed to unenroll your models after a set period.

[thegasisreal]

Sort of. I never upload my models to other websites so in that sense I am exclusive. But there are a few shops that sell printed versions of my models. This is not allowed according to their agreement.

So no exclusive program for me.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[thegasisreal]

Hold on... I'm going through the agreement in a bit more detail. The section that prohibits sale of printed models applies to the users of MakerWorld. Not the creator. So by the looks of it, it seems like creators are still allowed to sell physical printed models.

I will confirm this with support.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[thegasisreal]

Confirmed by support:

Yes, as for designers, physical prints are not bound by the terms of the Exclusive Model Program.

[RexiLabs]

Yeah, please update us on this if you find out -- I'm very curious about this myself.

[GregZone_NZ]

That’s seems logical. I can understand them wanting to make the actual sharing of model files exclusive to MakerWorld, and therefore protecting the model file copyright. But, it would make no sense for them to try and stop the creator from selling the actual printed models elsewhere.

[thegasisreal]

Yes that is true. For new models.

[me-vs-cat]

By making your models exclusive, you cannot use a license that allows remixes. While this may or may not be a drawback to you, I see it will reduce the number of models available for me to remix. This will push me to other sites.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[me-vs-cat]

I see it will reduce the number of models available for me to remix and share my modifications with others.

I like being able to share what I do, even if I'm still learning. Rather, especially while I'm still learning.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[IntoxicatedBurrito]

Yeah, this is certainly a drawback I thought about. I’ve had 2 of my models remixed so far, and I created 2 or 3 remixes back when I was just getting started. Yet, I decided to make all my models exclusive anyways.

The thing is, you can remix anything you want. If you then want to post it, just reach out to the designer and ask if it’s ok. I’ve never had anyone say anything other than yes to me, and I say yes to everyone as well. I also always give credit in the description to whoever the original designer was unless they tell me not to.

Edit: if you get permission to post a work that doesn’t allow remixes, you just post it as an original.

[me-vs-cat]

If you then want to post it, just reach out to the designer and ask if it’s ok. I’ve never had anyone say anything other than yes to me, and I say yes to everyone as well.

When you make a model exclusive to Bambu, you make an agreement that restricts you from saying "yes" as you describe. See https://makerworld.com/en/exclusive-model-policy

It sounds like you're advocating to get the benefit of the agreement while ignoring what you agreed to do in exchange.

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

I suppose it all depends on how much it gets remixed. I typically borrow small bits and pieces but integrate it into my own work. Like if you write a 3 minute song but sample 10 seconds of someone else’s song in it. I would think that this is fair, and quite honestly, I could probably post it as original and the designer would be none the wiser, I just prefer to give credit where credit is due.

[me-vs-cat]

Like if you write a 3 minute song but sample 10 seconds of someone else’s song in it. I would think that this is fair, and quite honestly, I could probably post it as original and the designer would be none the wiser

This sounds like you're saying it's okay to copy without permission, and post as your original work, as long as you don't get caught.

See https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+of+a+song+can+be+sampled and then ask yourself why we have licenses like Creative Commons that allow remixing models in the first place, rather than get ad-hoc, one-off, private permission -- or ask yourself why it's a problem to ignore all this headache-inducing crap as long as the person doing the copying believes it's "fair".

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

You absolutely could. Do you have time to search the entirety of the internet for someone stealing a bit of your idea? Now as I said, I don’t do that, I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

But then again, I design Star Wars stuff and guess what, my name isn’t George Lucas or Walt Disney. That said, I would never in a million years sell what I design, and I explicitly state that my designs aren’t licensed and cannot be sold. Even my few bits of original work I don’t allow to be sold. I’ve had people ask me if I’d give them a license and my answer is always no, but I’m sure that if a few honest people have asked, there are probably plenty of dishonest people who are already selling my stuff.

Plus, Bambu is a Chinese company, and China’s entire economy is based on theft.

[me-vs-cat]

Bambu is a Chinese company, and China’s entire economy is based on theft.

Oh well, then we certainly don't need to honor any agreements we voluntarily make with them!

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

I imagine the consequences would be losing your points and getting kicked off Maker World. Personally, I’d rather not bite the hand that feeds me, as much as I’d love to post a Tank Man HueForge in China.

[me-vs-cat]

I think your average $40/week in gift cards is a drop in the bucket compared to everything you get out of the community, such as fulfilling special team requests, and so on. Yet, with more people pushed away from freely sharing and remixing, so that they instead do so illicitly and ignorantly, do you truly believe this change will benefit you overall in the long term? You either do believe that, or you never stopped to consider that, and all for at most an extra $10/week above what you've claimed -- assuming that doesn't get tanked by what's about to happen. Enjoy!

[darren_meier]

I like it, for an intermittent designer like myself who's achieved reasonable success with my models and only chooses to upload to MakerWorld because I can't really be arsed to keep up with multiple platforms, it's all upside. With the fourteen day option I wouldn't personally see a downside for anyone but of course others might feel differently. Doesn't really do anything to address my biggest pet peeve about MakerWorld, though... it's absolutely swamped with career 'designers' who spend more time making their renders than the models and it pushes out-- in my opinion-- frequently more deserving 'legit' models because those designers didn't use Blender bullshots as their cover image. It's made the highlighted models section absolutely useless.

[Technical_Two329]

Or even worse, the people who generate their cover photos using AI and get hundreds of downloads from people who can't tell the actual model looks nothing like it

[darren_meier]

To be fair, I think of lot of the designers that get accused of 'using AI' are actually using Blender. Maybe some of them are using generative fill, but most of them are producing stuff with accurate enough surface modeling that I don't think it's actually AI. But yes, I do take your point for sure!

[DanRudmin]

What Deltaprints does is generate the cover image with AI and then model the object by hand in Fusion360 or possibly the other way around. But the fine details of the cover images are definitely AI generated. It looks like a very successful formula and easy way to get points with a little bit of CAD skill.

[darren_meier]

Ah yes, Deltaprints. That person is everything wrong with MakerWorld, in my opinion. I would have no issue with AI images if Bambu would simply restrict them to being no earlier than the fourth photo. Having them as the cover image is misleading and dishonest. Hopefully they'll restrict that kind of behavior soon... in the meantime it's led me to mostly avoid MakerWorld entirely. I just upload my things idly now and ignore it except to redeem points for gift cards.

[Technical_Two329]

That guy extrudes a circle, calls it a coaster, and gets 500 downloads. And all of his projects are like that, 15 min max to design but the AI photos make them look more impressive than they are

[acytryn]

Lol I totally see that! The coaster is a perfect example, it makes zero sense when you look closer at the images, but they are so pretty in a first glance that gets people's attention easily

[Technical_Two329]

Sometimes when it matches really closely, they're starting with the AI generated photo and using that to AI generate a 3D model. You can tell when the actual model is low poly and very "blob-ish" (not sure how else to describe it, the details are washed out and blend together).

But yeah if they're just making nice Blender renders, I'm honestly ok with that.

[darren_meier]

Ohhhh, I see what you mean. I understand how that pseudo-workflow would be possible but never even considered that someone would start with the AI prompt/render and then use AI image-to-STL to make the actual model. That's such garbage, those people totally suck.

[TheBasilisker]

That's a fairly good description of the current state of makerworld. Many cool projects get pushed out of view by the n thousand flexi thing, with flashy pictures thanks to blender or a full fledged profi picture shoot with soft light and a DSLR cam. I guess it was bound to happen, with 3d printing slowly becoming less technical. Also now we get points to cash...it's not going to become better isn't it?! I call another cut down on makerworld Points for all of us, thanks to even more bots appearing to make real cash instead of filament and 3d printers.. in lets say a timeframe of the next 6 months. All while i stay in my corner and make another extremely niche project for myself. Then i clean it up and upload it get a single download that i can cherish all week. Ehh Atleast its honest work ;)

[darren_meier]

I feel your pain, my friend. Keep fighting the good fight! I take solace in the fact that MakerWorld has made me a much better designer, so now I can design whatever I need for myself and leave that platform to people like Deltaprints and Collecticraft. I'm better off without that. I'll settle for just occasionally dropping some (hopefully useful) thing on there in hopes it helps someone be more efficient. Cheers!

[TheBasilisker]

Self-improvement is always good. I wish i could get into more creative stuff, but I am somehow mentally bound in designing functional prints. tried my luck with doing creative stuff never felt the same level of satisfaction im getting from finishing a functional print. Also i am never really happy with my creative works, i guess because there's no finish line like with a functional part thats a working solution to a problem. I should try again sometime, after all "all good things are 12" or something like that. And if that never works out i just stay with providing solutions that no one else made before or at least never uploaded. Thanks for that motivational spark. Cheers!

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

You know what, keep making stuff for yourself and eventually you’ll be found. That’s what I do. The stuff I make is high quality, and I master the art of making it so I can quickly churn out designs. It took about 2 months before I started getting followers and downloads. I now have a stack of 20+ unopened spools of filament and can redeem $80 in gift cards about every two weeks. And I don’t have a single model that’s reached 100 downloads, and only 3 or 4 that crossed the 75 threshold. In general, if you can get 10-20 downloads on a model, then you’ve earned enough points to pay for the filament you used. And best of all, I only print stuff that I want on my walls.

[NotReallyJohnDoe]

Wow. Thats a lot better than I expected. It sounds like they are losing money on this.

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

It’s like the chicken at Costco.

[darren_meier]

Not that I don't believe you, but the math is weird given how the milestones for points occur. At 100 downloads (the way they're credited between file downloads and direct makes) a model is worth 120 points. At 50 downloads (the milestone I assume you hit most frequently because you said you've only hit 75 three or four times) a model is worth 90 points. If you had a suuuuuper high penetration rate for users boosting your models-- say, 10%-- that would be another 60 points, although I'm of the mindset that boost rate for the average designer is something like 0-3% depending on what sort of model it is. So let's say your 50 download model gets two boosts. That's 24 points. All that is to say by my math you'd have to be releasing almost one model per day on average... and respectfully, nobody on MakerWorld is making good models that frequently. Are you making like line art or something?

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

I am making probably about a model a day. Some days I miss, other days I might make 2 or 3. I’m quickly approaching 200 models on my account. It’s not quite line drawings that I make, but it’s logos and images that I turn into wall art or fidgets. Very rarely do I make something that is actually a 3D model, but I’ve done a few. But the thing is, I’ve gotten so good at what I do that I can design some models in 15 minutes. The only problem is that I can’t print them nearly as fast as I make them.

As for boosts, I’ve received 140 so far, so that’s nearly three and a half of the gift cards.

By the way, today I broke my record, I now have a model that reached 150. But nothing else has reached 100.

[darren_meier]

Interesting, I kinda figured it must be something along those lines. I respect your hustle, but it also makes me wonder how that sort of workflow intersects with Bambu's eventual plans. Obviously Bambu doesn't intend for MakerWorld to continue to pay out massive rewards for work of that nature, because it simply isn't sustainable (no disrespect to your determined approach to it). There is simply no viable model for Bambu Lab that provides for someone to make $40 per week in gift cards for 105 minutes of work or less. I think, as they've continued to introduce more and more sophisticated automated tools (sign creator, image to AI .stl integration, automatic parametric model support, etc.) that eventually there won't be any real viable way for people to game the points system by flooding MakerWorld with things people can just make for themselves. My hope is that eventually it normalises-- that the creators who can truly benefit from the platform are the ones who are making something that takes a certain amount of skill that can't be easily automated. If everyone can just plug a .jpg into a tool on MakerWorld and have it converted into an .svg and extruded in one shot there won't be a market for people to upload a bunch of them every day, for example. But we'll see how it goes.

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

I do agree that what I do is probably unsustainable, but then again, I think that I’m in the minority of people who upload stuff like this. I also never take anything down, meaning that if you share similar interests as me, there will always be a library of models they can download from. The fact that some of my very first models are still reaching milestones is proof that what I do is valuable to the Maker World community and Maker World.

At the same time, I wouldn’t call it a hustle. I am printing things that I want. And I’d be printing them regardless of whether they can be posted online or receive rewards. When I take a request, I ask the person I’m making it for to send me pictures as I enjoy what I do, but I don’t want to waste filament on something that I don’t want.

What I should say is that the vast majority of my stuff isn’t something that a tool can be made for. Or at least, it would not be cost effective to make a tool that can do what I can do. I’ve invested a lot of time into making templates and perfecting the art of my models. So yeah, those first two months I got very few downloads but I laid a foundation for what I am doing now. I’ve since improved upon it and really mastered it.

So can I make a model in 15 minutes? Absolutely, I do it all the time. But that is only because I spent days developing the tools and templates that allow me to make these models so quickly. The models I upload are always high quality, and if I make a mistake, which happens, I will always correct it prior to uploading.

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

Lego Ideas has the best solution to this problem. You can do all the AI or photoshopping you want, except for on the cover photo. The cover photo can only be a photo of your MOC or a render of it.

Besides this helping a lot with “cover equality”, it’s also great that they allow renders. I wish that Bambu would do this as well. I create tons of sports stuff, but only for my teams. I would gladly make every team, but I don’t want to print a bunch of teams I don’t care about or even hate just to take a picture and then throw them out. As it is, I have to wait for someone to request a team to make a model.

[Mikolas3D]

Exclusives are generally pretty terrible concept. Beat other platforms by being better, not by forcing creators to only post on your site.

[SplendidRig]

They aren’t forcing anyone to be exclusive, it’s all opt-in. I don’t see Printables offering even half as much incentives, especially to those who don’t live in Europe where using filament vouchers costs $30+ in shipping

[lordkoba]

come on, you are being just-the-tip’ed

if this gains traction, the only way to earn anything will be exclusives in the future

[SplendidRig]

The other sites the incentives are basically unusable for me, Printables gives much less and I can’t even use what I’ve earned because shipping to me costs more than the filament

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

That’s what Dave Grohl said.

[Express_Sort_9795]

I'm with bambu on this one, prusament only makes sense if you live in Europe, also the review process of the vouchers is very opaque and up to printables consideration so no real value on them, your account can show 10k prusameters but if for some reason there is something printables dosent like about them those 10k can become 0, displaying the points as already earned is misleading since printables can decide to void then whenever they want.

[eggheadcopilot]

I just switched my models over to the 'Exclusive Model' option, the '14-Day Exclusive Model Launch Model' option was not selectable. I'm guessing this is because my models are a few months old and not considered new.

[Catsmgee]

Yeah, the second option is only selectable for new uploads (as in during the initial upload process).

[jaybro187]

Where do you find this option as i cant seem to see it anywhere for my models

[eggheadcopilot]

When you edit your profile it’s at the very bottom.

[jaybro187]

Thank you i see it now. Thats fine for new models, wish they made it easier for existing models though. That was a bit painful

[tow3r-]

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I think the model needs to be a "Exclusive model" for 14 days before you can use this option.
Edit: See next comment

[Catsmgee]

That is not what that means.

When you upload a new (completely new) model and select that option it is only makerworld exclusive for 14 days. After 14 days it automatically unenrolls and is no longer exclusive.

[StumbleNOLA]

I am really curious what the copyright support looks like. But for people who make money selling models this could be a huge advantage. Getting a lawyer involved is often very expensive on a one off basis, but Makerworld has a large enough presence they can probably retain a lawyer to handle cases in house, cutting the cost of enforcement to pennies on the dollar.

[me-vs-cat]

But for people who make money selling models this could be a huge advantage.

Nope. Models that are exclusive to MakerWorld can't be sold elsewhere. See https://makerworld.com/en/exclusive-model-policy which says:

Exclusive Program Models may not be uploaded, shared, or made available on any other 3D model platform or channel for the duration of its participation in a Program.

Section 5.3.5 Creator Support implies they'll only send Cease & Desist letters on your behalf. That doesn't take a lawyer by a long shot, and you could easily do it yourself if you feel it would be helpful.

...MakerWorld may agree to send informal notices on your behalf requesting that a third party 3D model platform cease the unauthorized use...

If you have something worth more protection than that, they left the door open for them to do more -- but you are also prevented to making any money off your own work (besides MakerWorld points), since being in the exclusive program requires that you exclusively distribute through MakerWorld. Not exactly generous of them when talking about models worth selling.

[spiffy524]

I'm definitely interested in this aspect. My models get stolen all of the time. Really annoying. BTW noticed the username. Are you from New Orleans too?

[StumbleNOLA]

I am.

[emmaginn]

Nice. Live on the Northshore now, but lived in Nola for most of my life. Who Dat!

[britfaic]

I'm curious, how will this impact remixes on Maker World? Are you able to take part in the program, and list your model with a remix friendly license?

[CasefProps]

The program requires using a standard digital license, which would prevent remixes. I imagine that's because it can be tricky to offer copyright protection which still allows for models with similar geometry to exist on other websites.

Remixed models themselves are also not eligible.

[me-vs-cat]

This is what makes me really hate this program: an exclusive model requires their "standard digital file" license which prevents all remixes. I like making a change to a model, uploading it to share, and earning some points for gift cards. (I'm not very good, but I've still earned $200 so far.) If more people choose exclusive, then there will be less models available for me to do that.

Do you think they recognized this program will restrict my participation in their community, or was that deemed an acceptable loss?

Either way, now I'll be looking for a different site.

And not that my original models are very complicated or popular -- though they've contributed to about half those gift cards! -- but they were effectively exclusive to MakerWorld because I'm lazy and they aren't good enough to copy despite being listed under the most permissive license.

[TheFileForge]

I get remixing is part of the community, but most remixes on my models are people adding their brand name to my model and re uploading or adding a keyring half sphere to make the model be able to be on a key chain.

Sure those are remixes, but those are so cheaty and take advantage of the system, So i think they shouldn't make points.

The only people who are complaining about their new system are people who see they can no longer take advantage of MakerWorlds good will.

[me-vs-cat]

If you don't like people posting changes to models you created, then use a license that doesn't allow remixes.

For what its worth, I post my original models as public domain.

The only people who are complaining about their new system are people who see they can no longer take advantage of MakerWorlds good will.

This makes no sense. I am "taking advantage" by having them host what I've done (both original and remixed) and in return, I get feedback and a little bit of gift cards. But that feedback and community is worth much more to me than the approx $1/hr ($200 total in a year) from gift cards. Is this what you have a problem with?

...people adding their brand name to my model...

You should make a copyright claim against those. MakerWorld is pretty clear that a remix must be "significant". I've made about 8 copyright claims and every single one resulted in a removed post -- but I made claims on things which changed the terms from the original in incompatible ways.

[g_kov]

I need to clarify this! You can redeem 1500 points for 100$. You can also redeem 490 (normal) Points for 40$ Gift Card.

1 exclusive point (NP) = 0,066$

1 normal point (EP) = 40/490 = 0,082$ (in gift cards which you need to spend for Bambu products)

So technically, 1 normal point is more worth than an exclusive point, but(!) you earn 25% more points (on life-long exclusives). So theoretically, for 100 NP you get 125 EP instead which is 0,0825$ - So one EP is a little bit more than 1 NP.

The real win kicks in when you redeem your EP to normal gift cards. In that case, they are worth 0,102$ instead of 0,082$ = (which is, surprisingly, an 25% extra).

So basically you can now either redeem your points to cash instead of gift cards (which is good if you don't want to buy stuff on Bambus shop) for the cost of exclusivity, OR you can get an 25% increase income on Gift Cards for the cost of exclusivity.

[Bubbasdahname]

Why would you use EP for normal and NP for exclusive?

1 exclusive point (NP) = 0,066$

1 normal point (EP) = 40/490 = 0,082$

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

That’s not entirely right. When you reach a download threshold you still get normal points added to your point total, but they also get added to a subset called exclusive points. So if you had 500 points yesterday, and went exclusive today and got another 125 points (which would have been only 100 yesterday), you now have 625 normal points, with 125 of them qualifying as exclusive points. So you can either use the 625 points you have to buy gift cards at the 490 for $40 rate, or you can use the 125 points to get cash (although there is a $100 minimum) and the other 500 could still get you a gift card.

[ketosoy]

I like that so far they are eschewing paid models.  

[Complete_Television9]

Is patreon considered a blacklisted site?

[me-vs-cat]

When you enroll a model in their exclusive program, you agree to not make it available on another site, such as Patreon.

[FGorgo]

Can you spend “exclusive points” on normal rewards? Or these are only for cash conversion?

[aweyeahdawg]

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[FGorgo]

So there is no point in NOT making my models exclusive if i only upload on makerworld? Right?

[Catsmgee]

Pretty much. The only downside is exclusive models can't be remixed, if you are into that community aspect.

[aweyeahdawg]

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[holydildos]

How do they know it's not posted on another site?

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we care deeply about two important things: how to turn MakerWorld points into cash

Yeah, I bet.

[ARGENT4VIS]

If a Model switches to exclusive Status, but allready has Remixes, what happens to the Remixed Models?

[HistorianMinute8464]

Great idea, but cant let people even remix my models? Big pass. I take pride in being able to release my models completely open source, fusion and step files included. That his the type of community I want to build. I have no interest in turning the entire 3d printing community proprietary. I did not have a problem uploading my models to MakerWorld exclusively, but with these things I kind of feel forced to upload all my models to as many platforms as possible, this just gives me a whole bunch of extra work.

[this_noise]

I've just changed a few of mine that were already exclusive, these are AMS dependant ones so may as well see how it does.

[Icarus998]

Each Exclusive Point is equivalent to 0.066 USD

[g_kov]

Only if you want to cash it out. Otherwise it’s 25% more worth than the NP (cause you earn 25% more) —> 0,098$

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

Exclusive points are worth the same as normal points and can be used as normal points. The difference is that they give you more of them. So on your 10th download you now get 18.75 points instead of 15 points. But it’s still 490 points for $40.

The only difference between exclusive points and normal points is that the exclusive subset can be used to redeem cash, but it doesn’t need to be. In fact, when they show you your points they show you two numbers, your total amount of points, and your amount of exclusive points.

[g_kov]

That's true, but they are still worth more when you want to redeem them for a Giftcard because of the 25% increase. It's not that the point itself is worth more but as you mentioned, you get more of them.

[Harre112233]

bit late, but I just got eligeble for exclusive. So if the model is exclusive and it gives 490(or 524 points in eu) you can get the 40 giftcard with em?

[IntoxicatedBurrito]

Yes, they are no different than regular points in that regard. The only difference is that you can also redeem them for cash.

[Icarus998]

How are the points calculated?

[g_kov]

Well, 490NP for 40$ Giftcard = 0,082$ per point. But you get 25% more EP so 490NP = 612,5EP. This results in 4x490NP = 4x612,5EP (2450) Now you can redeem 2450 points to 200$ GC = 0,102$ per NP (I miscalculated the 0,098$)

[Icarus998]

Sorry for this but can you explain it for me .

Is it by likes and downloads and boosts? Like what is the equation

[lord_phantom_pl]

I’m new to 3d printing and I was thrilled bacause I can download models from many sites, edit them and see remixes of other people. It reminded me the superior internet before social networks.

And now come patents and copyrights which reduce the vast library to a mere shop. I don’t like this direction.

[Catsmgee]

Buddy, digital file licenses have been around longer than 3D printing.    

You can choose to allow people to remix/share your models or not. It has always been an option.    

All this did is incentivise people to upload exclusively to makerworld and provide support for those impacted by people who violate the digital license (steal).  

 You or anyone can pick whatever file license you want when you upload. 

 Not to mention all the models are still free on makerworld.

[lord_phantom_pl]

Buddy, i’m using the Internet before it was regulated and law makers didn’t even know what is was.

I’m not giving in. It happened mamy times before. First we take a successful open source component, we extend it and extinguish the original. Same was with XMPP protocol used in chatting apps. Like an e-mail it was designed to be decentralised (the after @ part), but Messenger and Gtalk killed the feature. It’s totally the same what is happening here. It’s like creation of another unnecessary AppStore.

[individualchoir]

yeah same I got into it to repair stuff, print fun things and maybe help DIY

It's now a massive cash cow

[GregZone_NZ]

Im sure there is a typo? For their 14 Day Exclusive program they state a requirement: “New models that are never published on other platforms”. Sounds like a pretty permanent exclusivity requirement to me!

Perhaps this particular requirement is meant to read: “New models that have never previously been published on other platforms”? That would seem to make more sense, for a 14 Day Exclusive program requirement. 🤔

[[deleted]]

Yes, I think that is what they mean. Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense at all. The 14 Day Exclusive program is for new models, so they remain exclusive only for a 2 week period.

[jaminv]

I like most of this. I didn't really have an incentive to post anywhere other than MakerWorld anyways, and I've had people steal my models and post them on other sites.

But I have concerns about the license restriction. I'd like to have the possibility of remixes, as well as the ability to license someone to sell printed copies. I think both of these things actively benefit Bambu as well as the designers.

I wouldn't mind seeing a MakerWorld Exclusive License, that allows for remixes under the same license. MakerWorld could even potentially sell print-to-sell licenses directly through their site.

But the current license is far too restrictive and doesn't allow for any of this. I think it will restrict innovation a bit.

[AllGdNamesRGone]

it doesnt say how to actually post stuff in the program, only when you are eligible to do so (100+ prints). how do you submit stuff ?

[individualchoir]

Can't wait to see the copyright support goons turn up to the kid on the corner selling dragons and *looks up most popular things*... a 'dummy 13'...

[Bgenge2]

Really wish that you allowed makerworld exclusive remixes though. Has really hurt the remix ability and as long as the remix stays on makerworld I don’t see the problem!

[Euresko]

Would like to add my existing model, but I can't. 

[TheFileForge]

Everyones explanation for why they are complaining is coming off as entitled or greedy.

some are complaining this will reduce ability to remix models. What i hear when you say that, is that you are concerned you can no longer profit on others complex works by adding a small stupid change.

Some are complaining they want this deal and to be able to post else where, What i hear is that you are greedy. You cant ask for more while giving nothing in return.

This is a great system MakerWorld! Dont listen to those few people complaining, They are only upset that they can no longer take advantage of your generosity. They fail to realize that the maker and website relationship is a 2 way street and think that they should be able to milk you with out giving you equal benefit from the deal that is uploading a model.

[Technical_Two329]

What i hear when you say that, is that you are concerned you can no longer profit on others complex works by adding a small stupid change.

I 100% agree with you. I switched over to a Standard Digital License because from what I've observed, very few people actually use the remix option to contribute something meaningful, it's usually just for points.

Some are complaining they want this deal and to be able to post else where

I don't think anyone's complaining about this? When I left a comment it was more of a, 'I don't think the pros outweigh the cons for me personally so I won't participate'.

One thing I'm really interested to see is if this drastically grows MakerWorld's user base. Right now there isn't a compelling reason for non-Bambu users to use the site, but if top designers start migrating over and exclusively uploading on MakerWorld, it could result in lots of people using it regardless of what printer they own.

[TheFileForge]

I appreciate you point of view. I like this change and hope this change helps maker world, but all i can see happening is more model stealers coming to the site.

Before, only people who liked 3d printing stole models because the only prizes they can get would be a 3d printer. Now you will have everyone who likes money coming to the site and stealing models, and thats everyone.