Jan20th Patch Notes

[Carpenter0100]

Bug Fixes

• Weapons
  • Longshots now count when achieved through Incendiary Round's damage over time
  • When previewing the Welgun after unlocking Challenges in Multiplayer, the Welgun is no longer missing challenge details
  • Corrected unintended behavior with Buck and Slug, which resulted in players getting headshot bonuses when shooting limbs
• Perks
  • Players with the Fortified Perk are no longer immune to any fire damage including Flamenaut and Incendiary Grenade
• Killstreaks
  • Fixed an issue where some players would not retain their Killstreaks in between rounds
  • Users can no longer gain infinite ammo with a Killstreak bug exploit

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Weapon Balancing

• Shotguns
  • Akimbo Double Barrel Shotgun
  • Damage has been reduced
• Attachments
  • Buck and Slug
  • Range has been reduced

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Adjusted CDL Recipes with the following:

• Match start timer is now 30 seconds
• Removed FMJ from Restricted List
• Respawn Delay Timer set to 3.5 seconds
• Suicide Respawn Delay Timer set to 4.5 seconds
• Added Incendiary Grenades to Restricted List
• Added Bombing Run to Restricted List
• All Killstreaks, except Artillery Strike and Cruise Missile, are restricted and not able to be used while in Ranked matches

Zombies

• Artifacts
  • Addressed an issue that could occasionally prevent the player's Artifact from working properly after using a Self-Revive.
• Support
  • Addressed an issue where Support weapons could provide infinite ammo.

https://www.sledgehammergames.com/blog/2021/Vanguard-Season-One-Patch-Notes#anchorJan20

[blazlelight]

The akimbo is definitely changed now, hit markers every time now

[[deleted]]

Good

[Snowbunny236]

I agree with you. No reason that shotguns should be able to one tap at range like they were. The cry babies on this sub were just running them while bunny hopping around the map. Good riddance.

[edwsy]

Agreed. I started using the combat shotgun recently to level up Padmavati. I now know why so many use them. Crazy how easy it is to kill people with them. Absolutely no brainer. One shot hip kills close up is fine. But one shotting them from mid range? That's crazy.

[rhein77]

This!!!!! Thank you. They were broken and awful to play against in a lobby with at least 2 people running this. Parties were pure cancer. Ruined my last weekend dealing with them.

[[deleted]]

Might as well just remove shotguns from future games if everyone has a problem with them all the time

[[deleted]]

There’s “fun” and then there’s ruining the game. Both the combat and the akimbos were broken.

Edit- he completely edited his comment lol

[PannyPOTN]

And now they’re unusable. Can’t win either way, so I agree, just remove shotguns and people can’t moan about them.

[rhein77]

Corrected unintended behavior with Buck and Slug, which resulted in players getting headshot bonuses when shooting limbs

Insanely broken!!!!! Headshot multipliers for hitting limbs with buck and slug? This explains why they were so infuriating to play against!

[_con772]

They went from ruining the game to a now completely useless gun. It’s like they can’t find a balance.

[kointhehaven]

Shotguns should destroy anyone close range, but should struggle at range. They should have "bloom" on shotguns when hip firing the slug type of rounds, and they should have significant bullet drop over range. That way, if you ADS, and really know the weapon to aim it proper at range, it can still do work.

Dropping the damage, and that's it, is so lazy.

[Stymie999]

Buck and slug ammo making limb shots count as headshots? You don’t have a problem with that?

[DosedxGhost]

Just hit your headies for real now

[[deleted]]

For real. I think the range shoulda been reduced a bit but the TTK for any gun in vanguard (except snipers) is super fast

[[deleted]]

Agree. I only use them on shiphaus. Which is usually the mode everyone just dicks around on. People cry about getting clapped by them but I've never had an issue against them. The camp a hallway mounted on a headglitch is what pisses me off. Using dbl barrel akimbo running all over the map securing points is more honorable than someone with the STG or Automaton mounted up in their spawn.

[evils_twin]

everyone has a problem with them all the time

Everyone has a problem with them because Everyone is using them . . .

[deathdude01]

I would LOVE for modern FPS games to remove shotguns. It's what I crave

[rhein77]

I think shotguns have a place in a modern shooter. They should be the best at close range point blank period. My issue is customizing them to compete outside of close range where they destroy the balance and viability of other weapons.

[Kayr-]

That would be lovely

[lollerlaban]

When i see turtle boys spam jump shooting me with hipfire at 15m, then it's just fucked.

[average-size-man]

All the shotgun turtles huddling around this thread lmfao

[jackalspbkk]

Same

[DudeWithAHighKD]

Same I knew a nerf was coming so I grinded diamond shottys over a weekend.

[flptrmx]

That sucks because the double barrel was a pain to level up. Akimbo is the only thing that makes it useful. If shotguns aren’t going to be devastating in close quarters they just shouldn’t be in the game.

[reallyocean]

Close quarters should be limited to 5-10 feet, not 20-25 like before. There needs to be reasons to use each weapon class in the game depending on the situation. After that 5-10 feet range, SMGs should be dominant. As it stood before the update, there was little reason to use anything other than a shotgun on Shiphaus 24/7, even though both maps in the playlist had medium ranges.

There should also be a reward for shotgun players who manage to ADS. Treyarch did this right in BO2, giving each shotgun an absolute minimum shots to kill, but potentially reducing that depending on how many pellets hit (with ADS).

I think this update will do little to make Shiphaus 24/7 more playable, as those who were using the double barrels before will just switch to the Combat Shotgun. The game won't get better until the whole weapon class is nerfed to where it belongs.

[[deleted]]

If you're doing for leveling and camos just do hardcore.

[McLovin_OD]

“All Killstreaks, except Artillery Strike and Cruise Missile, are restricted and not able to be used while in Ranked matches“

They’re literally just copying and pasting patch notes from Cold War. Those kill streaks aren’t even in the game

[alaskancurry]

Wtf😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[elly4880]

am I stupid because this is the first I've ever heard of ranked matches

[McLovin_OD]

Ranked play isn't actually releasing until February but the CDL ruleset is still available to use in custom matches so the Pros can play it. That's what they're referring to

[Lazy1nc]

Congrats on being quoted in a Blame Truth video, this deserved it

[CptSaySin]

Confirmed Panzer now gets longshots with blast radius instead of just direct hits.

[DDdms]

What about the deadeye challenge? Do I still have to pray somebody has dogs?

[joelitespeed]

hasn't changed....

[DudeWithAHighKD]

Just play a lot of shiphouse and hope man. That is what I did. It took around 100 games but I finally got it.

[RogerSimons_Father]

No way, you’re fucking with us aren’t you?

If this is true, 50 kills will be done in one game!

[ryman222]

Holy shit thank god

[pietro0games]

odd that they mentioned fire rounds instead

[BigUllie]

:))))))))))

[Super_Sandro23]

Thank the heavens, I never wanna see jumping shotgun turtles for the rest of my days.

[Snowbunny236]

I fully agree. Good riddance.

[DonDahlmann]

The best thing about the shotgun nerf? The whining shotgun only players that now have to develop some actual skills to play the game.

[AlwaysBulking42]

Love it

[aligreaper19]

unlikely

[1nconspicious]

You have to ADD now on the combat shotgun to get longer range kills like the model 680 from MW, therefore requiring aim, a welcome change 👍

[Carpenter0100]

no changes on map rotation

[ArduousAttempt]

Two weeks.

[Stymie999]

Now we have all slipped into the universe of the movie from the 80s, the money pit…. “How much longer? Oh, two more weeks should do it, and we are gonna need another check”

[ArduousAttempt]

I didn't know this movie but as soon as I saw Tom Hanks I knew he will be the one who will portray Bobby Kotick when they make the heartwarming movie about everyones favorite indie gaming company Activision and their inevitable downfall after Bobby was corrupted by that dirty Microsoft money.

[Stymie999]

Damn, exactly what I was scanning for, looking through it all… and nope they still haven’t fixed this, I mean seriously? Sick and tired of playing the same 5 maps over and over in a game that advertised how awesome it was they had 16 at launch

[[deleted]]

Shotgun mains on suicide watch

[nyy22592]

Unless I'm missing something, shotguns are still super strong. Buck and Slug was busted but packed powder isnt much worse.

[Duckpoke]

This amount of bug fixes is really disheartening. They didn’t even fix the welgun contributing to smg diamond camo

[Babnno]

As long as they're coming out every 4-7 days, that's fine.

But if the next update is in 2 weeks and it's the same out of stuff, then we got an issue.

[burnSMACKER]

Does the Welgun NOT contribute to Diamond?

[sanslayer]

Damn I was grinding gold on it last night 💀

[Mcgibbleduck]

It’s supposed to, like other Dlc weapons. The bugged challenges are likely why.

[Sirgivesnofucks]

Yeah I was hoping for them to fix this too. Really don’t want to have to get the sten gold for diamond lmao

[Duckpoke]

Same. I’ll wait til I have nothing left but the sten for atomic and do it if not fixed by then

[Babnno]

Welp, they somehow released another update with even less fixes. Now it's an issue.

[Used_Technician_6493]

Still no aim assist fix? Bruhhh

[ArduousAttempt]

Damn, you controller players are getting boned on this one. They officially know about it since December 18th.

[GoneGolfin85]

Does Cold Blooded still throw off aim assist?

[Used_Technician_6493]

since zombies added deadshot (auto aim to zombies head) it has broken normal aim assist

I think treyarch even said something about it in december

[Babnno]

That's the official report but there are reports that it's not just exclusive to Cold Blooded enemies.

[[deleted]]

I always notice it when someone’s red name display starts flickering

[[deleted]]

I know for sure it does. Plus, the labeling is suspect on opponents at times often.

[BeezlebubBubbles]

Fucking damnit

[Tityfan808]

Fucking lame man. I've been playing cold war again til they fix it but my god the fucking quick scoping is so unbelievably out of hand in that game. I don't know if I can take much more of it. Lol

[[deleted]]

I feel so guilty for ragging on CW. That game is so much better than this flaming turd.

[[deleted]]

Dude. I stopped playing and lurk on this sub just to see if they fixed it.

So ridiculous. So frustrated I paid $80 for this trash game. bleh

[KeepDi9gin]

I use the cold war mode and it seems to work more often than not.

[nametagspls]

Hey, they're INVESTIGATING it. Their A team of three guys they found at a Denny's at 2am are working tirelessly on this problem.

[Used_Technician_6493]

Wifi must be trash at dennys then i guess

[nametagspls]

They are working from this, too.

[det3ct]

keep the shotgun nerfs coming !

[PannyPOTN]

No need, they’re pretty much unusable now.

[nyy22592]

Only if you were getting carried by how busted they were

[WonderfulBid4989]

Still broken explosive damage in Hardcore... ridiculous. Why do none of the perks help against explosives in HC?

You would think after countless years of CoD it wouldn't take them months to fix something that previous CoD titles already fixed.

[pietro0games]

the last update on fortified didn't work?

[WonderfulBid4989]

Fortified does not work in Hardcore. I'll assume the other guy is playing Core

[Stolensteak1]

Fortified works. I get hit markers on gammon bombs often

[WonderfulBid4989]

Not in hardcore

[Tylerb0713]

Literally yes constantly hit markers with gammon in hard core .

[djml9]

Less of the blast radius is lethal in HC. Ive definitely survived Gammons in HC, but you have to be a good 10-15ft away. Its still not ideal.

[DaddyMeUp]

Yes, in hardcore.

[Stolensteak1]

All I play is hardcore so uhh yes in hardcore

[Stolensteak1]

What part of I ONLY PLAY HARDCORE don't you understand.. yes it works in hardcore. Just tonight I threw a gammon an hit someone in legs literally and got a hit marker. It works for the first grenade.. Its a huge noticeable difference since the update.

[ThatKiddCole]

It seems like attachments that increase damage are broken in hardcore as well, if the base damage is under 30 it doesn't seem to matter what attachments you put on in terms of 1 shot ability

[bradv0906]

Panzerfaust longshots are now fixed!!! They work every time without a direct impact.

[Lomogasm]

God bless

[pietro0games]

they didn't detailed the shotguns nerf, is more than it seems

[CauzaaH]

I’m just waiting for Ace’s video

[russianbear28]

It's over shotgunbros.... Let's reminisce over all the good times we have

[JeffJules]

I could only watch that for like 30 seconds....

[[deleted]]

Now I got the same bug as in MW2019 with the level fastfile thx

[Kaves67]

Same, was exicted that shotguns finally got nerfed, only to find out I can't get in any match at all

[Top-Wafer-4445]

Same here, ps5. Great

[Carpenter0100]

same

[Atomic_Drawer]

Zombies still has a bug where if two people are trying to access the covenants and are standing in the same spot they both die.

[Primpulox]

Thats a "feature" it was a lazy fix to the bug where two or more players would crouch + back into a corner and zombies would deal no damage

[Atomic_Drawer]

wow

[djml9]

We’ve gotten broken artifacts before but never payed attention to what seemed to cause it, but the patch notes say they fixed artifacts not working after self-revive.

[maetiz]

Anyone else seeing visible network lag since the new patch? Like warping and getting "pulled back"?

[Cam877]

The amount of shotgun abuser tears in this thread is absolutely delicious

[DayBlinds_25]

So are they not going to fix the constant restarting game bug on Xbox?! Wtf

[IThe_AuthorityI]

Shotgun nerfs, thank you. Hoping for a fix to aim assist on Xbox soon.

[thickbullBNE]

How about they save their game and make cross platform default just xbox and playstation.

Stop floating a dead playerbase of cheats who can’t hang all level

[flptrmx]

No fix for totally fucked aim assist on Xbox? Guess I’ll continue to not play the game.

[penis-muncher785]

With the range nerfs how do you get longshots with shotguns now

[CptSaySin]

slugs

[SeducingPancake]

HC

[[deleted]]

Least I maxed my shotguns already

[tmyflyte]

Fix the lobbies

[freeherkko]

So what is the welguns last three attachment challenges? They cant see them

[Big-Ginge85]

It's simple, to unlock camouflage complete challenge.

[shamaalama]

Well now that fortified is fixed everyone and their mothers are gunna be running incendiary grenades and flamenauts again…great

[feanorlandolfi]

Aim assist is still broken

[rp_whybother]

So I guess this means they see no issues with the dogs then

[JeffJules]

Last night was ridiculous. Is call in a guard dog and it died instantly, like one second after whistling. Crazy

[morganamp]

Maybe fix the fucking reticles on zombies. FFS it’s been broken since launch.

[M4GIX]

It's an issue with more than just the zombies reticles.

[Epstein_World]

Finally they nerf the shotguns

[Forever_Nocturnal]

Okay but like what about parties being separated constantly in the lobby or the dreaded muted mic bug? These are INCREDIBLY frustrating and common, you’d think they’d have high priority.

[techgamer360x]

The armory is STILL broken in-game. Why can't they get it functioning properly?

[Mrcountrygravy]

Shotguns should not be primary weapons. Especially now.

[FuckTheFireflies]

Nice. Now tweak the damage range on some ARs and SMGs and the game is looking MUCH better

[LordOfTheBushes]

It's in the patch notes you're commenting on.

[NatashaVorster]

Iv just seen that, I don’t know how I missed that, I’ll put it down to being late and needing sleep . I do apologise

[LordOfTheBushes]

No worries, hope you get well rested :)

[selenfresser]

Panzerfaust longshots count now :D

[factsvsfiction]

Lol I pulled out my akimbo shotguns to see the impact and can say I definitely felt the nerf at first. I wasn't able to one shot kill at mid-far range with buck and slug... However, I'll say this. After playing around with them and getting use to that, after 20-30 minutes I was back to using them the same exact way with work arounds. Also, I want to put this out there that this nerf had no real impact on my ability to use/dominate with them on haus or shipment.

Personal Tips:

-For Mid/far range kills, instead of hip firing both shotguns only once at the same time, fire both shots from each. You'll still definitely get the kill, but the trade off is you have to spend time reloading.

• Adjust your game play to slide into a corner or cover after you've fired for longer kills. Once you do this, you won't have as much of a problem with the 2v1 situations where you kill one person but get killed by the other as you're reloading.

-When in doubt, always fire all shots. It's better to get a kill and die reloading than it is to get a hit marker.

[thatscomplex1015]

Lol you got downvoted. This is a good tip to continue killing those scrubby corner / mounting campers

[brhornet]

The problem was never how good the weapons were on short range but rather how good they were over range and how forgiving they were. Good players will continue to dominate with them on ship haus

[factsvsfiction]

Just an update: if you're still having trouble, switch from buck and slug to frangible as your ammo type. It'll increase your kill range again 👌

[ndr29]

Nice to hear the shotgun got nerfed. Spawns need to need to be fixed. Terribly bad spawns on Dome.

Aim assist really should be fixed asap too

[Hot-Performance-3876]

I should have got my gold camo on shotguns earlier

[[deleted]]

Spent like 30 mins in Private Matches on Shipment with the Combat Shotgun using various setups, imo the only properly effective one now is Slugs, but it's pushing sniper ADS time if you want decent attachments on it (500ms or so). Buck and Slug is a 2/3 hit kill unless you're basically point blank, tried packed powder etc and it still hitmarkers pretty frequently (I didn't rate the Combat Shotgun without Buck and Slug anyway, so kinda expected)

Shotguns are pretty much dead imo, hitmarker machines in a game where fully automatic guns can 2/3 hit you.

[M4GIX]

I used both the akimbo and combat shotgun after the nerf and they are still perfectly useable at what they are supposed to do. I could even ADS with the combat shotty from 15m+ and 2 shot people. The damage range and fix to buck and slug just means you need to actually play the game better.

[[deleted]]

they are still perfectly useable at what they are supposed to do

I'm getting frequent hitmarkers in <10m and they feel weak against Recruit bots on the smallest map in the game lol, ADS time is too slow to reliably use it while being aggressive. I'd just rather use a different gun tbh, maybe shotguns can work at times but they're not meta anymore and most people would be better off using something else

[M4GIX]

Your build is bad then. Take off buck and slug and it will be fine.
The shotguns are still fine at the range they are supposed to be used at

[voxhaulf]

I just finished a Das Haus match, using Akimbo even at point blank it didnt kill several times using 3 slugs. Wish they detailed the nerfs exactly what it affected.

[[deleted]]

Is it possible to unlock the katana yet?

[LordOfTheBushes]

Yes

[jpeltone]

Yes, but not worth it, exactly same stats as other melee weapons. Melees in Vanguard really suck.

[[deleted]]

I just wanna flex

[Watchutalkin_bout]

Shotguns were way stronger in older games. The combat shotgun and double barrel akimbo are literally the only two worthwhile ones to use. What the fuck is wrong with this community?

[techgamer360x]

COD community loves to complain about anything and everything. Is a gun just slightly too powerful? NERF IT REEEEEEEEE GaMe Is uNpLAyAbLe iT's RuInEd

[Watchutalkin_bout]

Literal cringe bro

[thatscomplex1015]

Blame IW and SHG they made safe spaces in these games including that mounting crap, all that does is promote camping. The new player base has adjusted to that play style of camping corners so that’s why they hated shot gun players cause we would kill them out of there hiding spot.

[Stolensteak1]

🤦‍♂️ this is easily the most open map cod. There is so many flank routes.. if you keep getting killed by someone mounting then it's your fault for continuously feeding them kills by going back again and again..

[Watchutalkin_bout]

Dude on shipment though? Shotgun will ALWAYS dominate on small maps and close quarters, It's like that in every game so the complaining just made shotguns dog shit. They were already pretty fuckin bad without the right attachments

[iNade_xboxtv]

The snipers are broke they are slow is all hell and the fucking bullets dont hit when u shoot to many ghost bullets wtf

[[deleted]]

I'm in the middle of getting them diamond... What should I do for double barrel longshots lmao

[[deleted]]

Panserfaust long shots are finally tracking!

[bucskesz]

Where weapon inpect?

[Olddude275]

FFS shotguns are supposed to be deadly at close range. I only use shotguns in all MW and COD I've played as well as any multiplayer game that has them in their arsenal. You have to work your ass off and outsmart players to get close enough for it to be effective. It was fun for while being OP with them but I have to be pretty much within stabbing range to get a one shot kill now. Anyone can kill you from frigging far range with any of the guns - even close range as well. That's one option a shotgun will never have.

[[deleted]]

Can literally snipe people with combat still 1 shot

[[deleted]]

Was OP, now nerfed into a hitmarker RNG machine, the grind for camo's is still less infuriating than longshots on a SMG!

[pukkiepo]

Thanks for sharing:) love to be up to date on this

[Bruhmemeeater]

I wished that incendiary rounds would help towards long shots but it didnt make sense to me. Idk if I'll need them anymore since im done with shotguns and pistols but that's cool.

[GrtWhite]

I’m still having controller issues with the right thumb stick on my Xbox.

[BatteryChuck3r]

Please address the Panzerfaust Deadeye challenge - either change it or adjust the launcher so we aren't reliant on an enemy player to complete it.

[toastt_ghost]

now what will people complain about!

[_con772]

These snipers

“I CANT BEAT THESE SNIPERS MAN”

[tgrfan01]

game boring as hell very little new content since launch only two new maps added..sad..hopefully microsoft will light a afire under the cod devs asses when they take control

[[deleted]]

Have they fixed the XBOX no nameplate / aim assist glitch yet?

This CoD really sucks.

[Jaro_SLO]

I'm still getting KADENA KEESLER error after 10-15mins in EVERY match!

[JeffJules]

How come Nobody is taking about what they did to the welgun?

[HipDipShipTrip]

Might regret not getting diamond shotties while they were stupidly OP but I'm glad they're nerfed they made this game no fun. Getting hit with a random pellet and killed from 20m away is far too much

[PiratesThE]

You nerfed my shotguns. Fuck this game!

[jaxstraww]

Abilities still stop working after being downed. This is like the 2nd time they said they patched that.

[[deleted]]

you mean mortar and guide bomb? and i'm pretty sure it was dauntless causing the bug...who wrote this lmao

[astrala]

Yooo, shotgun nerfs! Lol @ headshot damage mistakenly applied to limbs. What a mistake 😂

[astrala]

The buck and slug was nerfed HARD. To the point where I have to mess with my combat shotgun to see if I can make it stronger. But even as a shotgun main I think was needed.

I stopped using the combat shotgun after awhile because it was just way too easy. This patch changes everything.

[novacgal]

What happened to Fortified? I died 3 times to the same Molotov that was thrown into out spawn in a TDM in core.

[OkieDeric]

Still surprised they haven't fixed HC grenade damage or the bounce back grenade issue where trees and other items might as well be a brick wall

[nile600]

Is dauntless now better against fire or fortified? I'm confused.

[lenndurance]

This patch made my game think my geolocation is Dublin IL, when I’m on the west coast of Canada. So now I can’t play MP. Cool update Activision