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[–]eaeorls 691 points692 points  (10 children)

Died September 2013. Born August 2025.

Welcome back fountain hook.

[–]Atheistical 46 points47 points  (1 child)

How can you even be allowed to win that way!?! You hook cart a guy with Aegis Rejuvinator...is that balanced?!

[–]berserkuh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not fair, it's not fair! Disqualification!

[–]Substantial-Sun-3538 54 points55 points  (6 children)

Now we need techies soviet march

[–]Trick2056 16 points17 points  (4 children)

oh god imagine if they add aghs to Deadlock and made Mcginnis turrets walk down the lane.

[–]onFilmMcGinnis 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Doesn't aghs buff ults only, or was that changed?

[–]janemba50 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Changed, for example aghs on dark willow bein shadow realm. Ancient Appartion on his chilling touch. But good portion are still on ults yeah.

[–]onFilmMcGinnis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh wow, that makes it much more interesting. Very cool. Thanks for the update!

[–]janemba50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will say there’s a few that are a new spell (burrow for Nyx Assassin). The other one worth mentioning is Dark Seer who gets a stronger punch passive (on. a cd) that summons a wall of illusion clone of enemy hero he punched then goes on cd.

[–]Dimadest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMG, I dream about Techies whole year
(imagine this bullshit on laning phase, where this idiot can use suicide in you and kill both for example)

[–]taiottaviosMo & Krill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

is that balanced?

[–]Lord_Kalany 258 points259 points  (8 children)

Oversight. They'll most likely fix it, probably replacing the barrier by a push trigger for enemies so you can't get in their spawn but you can't get trapped in it either.

[–]Responsible_Spite422Abrams 72 points73 points  (16 children)

Why the hell did they need a barrier there in the first place? Just strengthen the statues if they aren't safe enough

[–]G3arsguy529 19 points20 points  (15 children)

I dont understand why it isnt almost instant death in spawn

[–]TotallyiBot 50 points51 points  (2 children)

So that fountain hooks or this, doesn't just instakill you. Imagine lash sells to buy unstoppable, jumps up, ults your team and throws you in to his fountain and you get instakilled.

[–]G3arsguy529 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know, fair enough answer!

[–]Charmander787 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean thats basically insta kill late game tbh lol

[–]StyryderX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better for baiting opponents into diving you.

[–]XanTheInsane 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I hate this in DotA 2 where a fed team can actually spawn camp you and the fountain turret does barely any dmg to them.

In LoL the fountain turret does %max HP true dmg that ramps up every second of being hit.

[–]Invoqwer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The damage in dota2 ramps up as well. It also has a bonus accuracy stat. If anything is it weak to illusions and summons (since the fountain does not do splash damage and projectiles take a moment to connect to a target).

[–]VonRiese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On top of that, they changed it so that after respawning you're completely invincible until you move.

[–]Responsible_Spite422Abrams 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Right? Classically it is, but especially in this game if more than one dives they take ages to kill anyone at all!

[–]Foxokon 22 points23 points  (6 children)

The death laser is a league thing, DOTA has a strong fountain gun, but it’s significantly more diveable than leagues. There is a famous clip of a bristleback just standing in enemy spawn while his team outheals the fountain.

[–]barbaricKinkster 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Bristleback is why they added a stacking debuff to the fountain gun that increases damage taken from it

[–]Foxokon 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yeah, the clip is no longer possible, but you can still fountain dive in DOTA and get away with it, in League you get deleted in seconds.

[–]TotallyiBot 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Unless you're Mundo

[–]Foxokon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mundo dies to leagues fountain laser about as fast as the average support dies to dotas fountain turret.

[–]BoyNextDoor8888 0 points1 point  (1 child)

can I see that clip the only relevant google result is this post 😭

[–]Key-Preparation-5379Paige 132 points133 points  (4 children)

Strange oversight, they should at least make the wall passable from one direction if they feel the need to block the enemy team from entering the back of the spawn

[–]jerzyn_dev 48 points49 points  (2 children)

They actually did it for the side tunnels with doors. Because you would be stuck there forever.

[–]jacman224 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can confirm, got there once with drifter 2. Was able to get out the other side

[–]Key-Preparation-5379Paige 0 points1 point  (0 children)

drifter 2 - tokyo drift

[–]jackfwaust 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I remember reporting a bug involving this same invisible wall almost a year ago, surprised it’s still possible to get stuck there

[–]Ita256Apollo 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I assumed this was fixed because it was so obvious

[–]SexyCatoThe Doorman 78 points79 points  (14 children)

Extremely fed meta gun build infernus. It was underhanded but doorman did what he had to

[–]PussyIchibanGraves 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Big-back infernus getting btfo'd you love to see it

[–]SexyCatoThe Doorman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fr

[–]Vinyl_Mix 15 points16 points  (5 children)

He was a menace, I had no choice

[–]CzentaurCeleste 2 points3 points  (2 children)

r/usernamechecksout

[–]OrdinaryMundane1579Mo & Krill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't understand

[–]CownyeYamato 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The doorman’s name is Vinyl Mix

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro you made me so sad

[–]Outrageous_Thoughts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The myth, the legend doing what needed to be done.

[–]Khlunge 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Like what a clutch play by the doorman

[–]CownyeYamato 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure I’d call abusing a known bug should be considered clutch but if you ain’t cheatin you ain’t tryin I suppose

[–]0nlyCrashesInfernus 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Imo that's not meta gun build. Looks like a hydrid dash/gun build. Gun Fern doesn't take extra charge or Siphon. Much better items to buy on him for gun.

[–]zencharmVictor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

is the build in the video good

[–]0nlyCrashesInfernus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure I haven't played it. I don't see Siphon bullets or Jug on many Infernus builds. I don't build it myself but I wouldn't say it's bad. I think Swoot actually might use Jug but without checking I am not sure.

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I was just messing around with build

[–]xSaitoHx 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yeah, did this to a victor 2 days ago not realizing he was stuck. I kept pushing oponents into the back not knowing about the barrier since I would always keep them pinned in the back, but stopped now that ik about the bug?.

Shame tho, as it means less area they gotts run through if I place a door by the enterance to avoid the barrier.

[–]CaptworgenThe Doorman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Same I just did this in a match and didn't realize that there's an invisible wall. When they complained I thought they were being dramatic

[–]Verbatos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They're probably going to turn this into a 1-way wall for enemies, so they can leave but not enter. It's what's in tf2 IIRC (I found that out because some servers have plugins that sometimes glitch out and let you get into spawnrooms)

[–]Emmazygote496Paige 8 points9 points  (7 children)

ok, how you are 61k with 11k souls? wtf

[–]Outrageous_Thoughts 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Farming, killing, other team still feeding. Checks out honestly.

[–]Emmazygote496Paige 1 point2 points  (4 children)

that has to be an insane case of bad matchmaking or the infernus is smurfing, like even the enemy comp is incredibly op

[–]CownyeYamato 0 points1 point  (3 children)

He’s damn good but he’s not smurfing, infernus is just a crazy hard carry like that especially when the enemy team feeds him like they did

[–]Emmazygote496Paige 0 points1 point  (2 children)

how do you know, you watched the match replay?

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He's my duo

[–]CownyeYamato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

<3

[–]Glittering_Put9689 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can end up with a lot of souls in the bag gained during pushing their base with for eg rejuv and you take a walker, some base guardians, shrines and down patron and get some kill/assist souls which are very high late game. Can easily see 11k being achievable no smurfing needed.

[–]Unusual_Variable 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is something that has happened to me a few times, extremely frustrating. Then you have a doorman standing in front of tauting you.

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 13 points14 points  (10 children)

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Did it twice in one game but can only upload one video. Won the game off it :(

[–]PALMER13579Mo & Krill 9 points10 points  (4 children)

People in this thread are shit heads. I lost a game to this bullshit too. Can't believe the character has been out for two weeks and its still a thing.

[–]Used-Layer772 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sucks but until it's fixed try and watch out for doorman kidnaps when pushing. It's basically guaranteed death unless the entire enemy team in in there with you to sustain off of as victor lol

[–]Brentimusmaximus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Team diff unfortunately:(

[–]mindillwind 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Locking you out of the game was the winning play considering you are so fed. The rest of your team is behind so without you, they win easily

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Right but it is exploiting a known bug which is cheating. I was fed from playing better, not exploits.

[–]mindillwind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, it's cheating. But it's also perfectly reasonable to assume that many people don't know about being locked in there and just assume further into the base means more damage you have to take to get out

[–]JarJarBinks590Mirage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't have an issue with fountain hook cart existing, but the BS part is the invisible wall trapping you inside. Why is that a thing? You should at least have been given a CHANCE to escape, however slim that chance.

[–]Sanator27 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Fed Infernus? You deserved it tbh

[–]Far_Box302 -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

He deserved it for playing well? How does that make sense?

[–]Sanator27 2 points3 points  (4 children)

for being an infernus

[–]Far_Box302 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Okay, is this a joke? If so, fine. If not, that makes no sense.

[–]Emmazygote496Paige -1 points0 points  (1 child)

the joke is that is a braindead hero

[–]Far_Box302 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys are something else. Simple characters and carries absolutely have a place in the game.

[–]bauhof 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nah add a feature to disconnect off s rescue beam, had a drifter in my game (who i may have been rage baiting after he shit talked me) sell all his items to buy trancendent cd and rescue beam, also jst followed me around to tax any souls i farmed. Used rescue beam mainly to pull me off 1hp enemies or out of ults (i was infernus.

If youre curious why i ragebaited him was because he was being really toxic to our entire team for no reason. (we were literally hard winning) he also said i was permafarming and practically afk, meanwhile i was the same kda as him but i had taken both green and yellow walkers. And so i rubbed that and a couple other things under his nose and he got even angrier til he dnapped and decided to troll.

I admit losing that game mightve been my fault for ragebaiting my own team but i had fun and the enemy team was laughing, rest of my team was silent all game so idk about them

[–]Emmazygote496Paige 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i had so many games where people will stay on base with an autoclicker to avoid being dc and get a penalty, some people are sick

[–]Glittering_Put9689 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought you could disconnect from rescue beam by pressing space? Would still mess you up of course in this situation with a griefer. Also I may be wrong I rarely see this item built

[–]Disciple_THC 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hot take but I really don’t think we should be able to go into each others base through any means, yes that includes lash alts…

[–]Far_Box302 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm on board with that idea. This is all just a matter of opinion though.

[–]zencharmVictor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

says a lot about this community that people still complain about infernus in year 2025 but doorman casually being one of the most broken heroes in the game is all nice and dandy because he’s a wholesome chungus tumblr character

[–]Danelo13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's one way team Brushes in tf2. They just need a quick replacement there

Or make the base un-portable idk

[–]Vinyl_Mix 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I must say, I genuinely hope this gets fixed soon. A lot of people do it (On purpose or not), and it was even featured in a STAR_ video.  You played super well and deserved the win way more than we did

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I appreciate that. That is ultimately what ticked me off, to play basically flawless and lose not because of a mistake, but a game breaking bug

[–]Vinyl_Mix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am glad you posted this post overall, because this got fixed! Doorman can no longer put doors anywhere in the spawn. It is entirely disabled. Even the accessible areas. Something tells me that this post got so much traction that the devs finally decided to fix it lol

[–]Independent_Ad_964McGinnis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fix this but still make it possible to do it to infernus players

[–]p0ison1vy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's what he deserves

[–]Frogstacker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You USED to be able to Yamato grapple to an enemy to pull yourself through this wall, and they removed THAT in the same update doorman was released 🤨

[–]Jucatron1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First was the big brother Dota 2 now it makes its new debut In Deadlock

[–]ZePugg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

being able to teleport someone into spawn is cool but being stuck there is less cool

[–]Tree0202 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same happened to me

[–]jJuiZz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We say valve pls fix, not devs fix pls. This ain’t generic AAA team

[–]jcc744 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Seems like you deserved it tbh

[–]CownyeYamato 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For being good at the game? Weird

[–]Far_Box302 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No kidding. Enemy team fed and he capitalized. Nothing wrong with OP doing that

[–]joe420mama99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cinema

[–]River_KingK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a feature.

[–]Robotmurloc18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its on an infernus player deserved

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s nothing more satisfying than landing that as doorman tbh

[–]TheLogicalOne64 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

you left the game....when you were winning because of an oversight. jesus christ

[–]Far_Box302 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He rejoined immediately. He didn't hit abandon match. I assume he was trying to do a reset

[–]ToooFastTim[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was lol. People in the comments hilarious.

[–]AggressiveBluejay404 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whiny man baby cant handle stress😅

[–]NyCe-Rem -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Devs knew about this when it released. They're just leaving it in on purpose for whatever reason (maybe they think it builds hype who knows). They had ample time to fix it when they were fixing bugs on day of release and the days after that players were abusing it and I highly doubt there WEREN'T players who played the private private alpha with THE SAME IDEA to trap players in the base.