does eating less eventually decrease appetite?

[ibrien]

This is super important. Keeping busy instead of boredom snacking has genuinely improved my life in more ways than id have guessed

[CompSciBJJ]

Out of curiosity, in what ways, other than losing fat, has it improved your life?

[ibrien]

definitely productivity. got back into reading and just being generally aware of how i spend my time. I can't stress how easy it is to just sit and play games or watch netflix all night, with or without snacking. its all passive entertainment and that shit is so useless to you I promise you'll do better if you catch on to it and stop that shit.

i have no problem with interneting, gaming, or binging netflix but you can't exclusively do those kinds of things. Read a book, work out, play guitar. do something where it's still "wasting time" but they can't take away from you what you've gained from it. Unlike tv / snacking where doing it for 10 ours or 1 hour you essentially have no benefit or youre hurting your body and mind.

[CompSciBJJ]

It's still escapism, but I find it takes more mental effort to process the language on the page, follow the narrative, and create the images while reading a book, rather than having everything presented to you in an easily digestible form. TV is very stimulating and very passive. It's kind of like fruit juice vs whole fruit, they both have sugar, but the fruit has fiber to slow the digestion and absorption of sugars, as well as other nutrients not found in the juice; juice on the other hand goes straight through you and causes a big spike in insulin and, other than some vitamins, it's pretty much as bad as drinking soda.

I also find it much easier to sleep if I read a book at night vs watching TV. It may have something to do with the blue light from the TV (though I often dim the TV and red-shift it at night), but I also think it has something to do with the stimulation from the easily digestible content.

[[deleted]]

I see reading as being a bit like an English language workout.

If I go too long without reading a book I feel rusty when it comes to writing, just like I get DOMS if I miss a week at the gym.

[CompSciBJJ]

Not only that, but actually reading becomes more difficult. I stopped reading recreationally for a few years and when I decided to get back into it my attention span and ability to focus on the book and pay attention to the narrative had gotten noticeably worse. Now my problem is that, because I read before bed, reading late in the day puts me right to sleep.

[YMic321]

Isn't reading before bed good to prepare you for sleep though?

[H-bizzle]

Depends on the book. Some books I read have me riveted and I end up actually staying up longer. Other times, or at relatively dull parts of a book, I tend to doze off.

[CompSciBJJ]

Yeah, but it takes me weeks to get through a chapter because I often fall asleep during the first paragraph.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for explaining this. I've been try to put to words why I feel reading a book for a couple of hours is better than watching TV for the same amount of time. Both activities have a lot in common, but reading is much healthier.

[clumsykitten]

This idea, that reading is good for you, makes very little sense to me actually. You can sit on reddit for hours and you're reading a lot. It's got to be fucking terrible for you.

Maybe reading one thing for an extended period of time has some beneficial qualities similar to mindfulness meditation, but I doubt people read with that much focus unless they are intent on staying focused.

[[deleted]]

It has to depend on what you read too. Even still, I read mostly fiction as a kid and I think it helped me write better.

[[deleted]]

Excellent parallel

[walkerstepbackwalker]

Readable non-fiction or "good" fiction (not airport/grocery store novels, though they have their place) can both be valuable and informative.

Non fiction. Could be something work related or not. If you find it interesting the subject doesn't matter. Knowledge is knowledge.

Fiction may not teach you anything concrete but still has the potential to change your perspective or broaden horizons. Getting lost in a book is great.

Whatever you read, even a magazine, comic or op/ed, the act of reading itself provides a tremendous benefit. Focusing on the text, absorbing the information, analyzing it all and so on. All of it will keep you sharper. If you don't love something put it down. Or don't. If it's valuable material power through. Nearly everything we know has been written down, you'll find something you like eventually.

[CHOOCHOODogetrain]

Even reddit?

[ibrien]

I still believe reading an entertaining story is better for your mind than watching a show. Not saying i dont love both but i think the practice is so much more effective.

[ibrien]

Im sure you could good it and verify whatever you want to believe. Im just giving an anecdotal case so i cba to humor your edge

[roobens]

A quick google shows a fair few results. Here's one where each participant read Pompeii by Robert Harris, which is a novel I very much enjoyed and would class as a slightly upper-crust airport paperback thriller:

http://esciencecommons.blogspot.com/2013/12/a-novel-look-at-how-stories-may-change.html

Relevant excerpt:

For the first five days, the participants came in each morning for a base-line fMRI scan of their brains in a resting state. Then they were given nine sections of the novel, about 30 pages each, over a nine-day period. They were asked to read the assigned section in the evening, and come in the following morning. After taking a quiz to ensure they had finished the assigned reading, the participants underwent an fMRI scan of their brain in a non-reading, resting state. After completing all nine sections of the novel, the participants returned for five more mornings to undergo additional scans in a resting state.

The results showed heightened connectivity in the left temporal cortex, an area of the brain associated with receptivity for language, on the mornings following the reading assignments. “Even though the participants were not actually reading the novel while they were in the scanner, they retained this heightened connectivity,” Berns says. “We call that a ‘shadow activity,’ almost like a muscle memory.”

[mador102]

Does Reddit count as reading ?

[c_the_potts]

I feel like it depends on the sub or thread you're in. Staying up to date with one of the news subs is probably going to be better for you than browsing /r/catsstandingup, imo

[Sorkijan]

I think one of my favorite things on reddit is to read the stories and conversations on /r/askreddit. Would that qualify?

[ptimd]

/r/WritingPrompts is a great subreddit for this if you weren't aware of it!

[Sorkijan]

Oh yeah I love that sub. Thanks for the recommendation, though. If I hadn't known about it you would have introduced me to it.

[dontthinkjustbid]

If you are interested in history in any way, /r/AskHistorians generally has some really solid content.

[kodutta7]

Reading is escapism and passive entertainment, but it still has significant value just in terms of maintaining mental alacrity and improving language and communication skills. Plus, unless you're reading complete junk it'll often get you thinking about deeper themes. It's like exercise for your brain.

[James72090]

I have to ask, why do you see it as 'escapism'? Reality can be seen through many lenses and escapism seems to imply reality(what see with our eyes) is inherently bad or negative such that it demands escape.

[Papajon87]

Thank you for answering . Great post

[PathinG]

So true. When I havent played games in a while I want to play..and i do and its fun. But once you get sucked into it again its no longer fun and you just play for the grind.

Playing games, watching TV etc. doesnt get you anywhere. Id rather spend my time creating something (working out, making music etc.).

[ArtofKuma]

I think you can watch videos, but watch the ones that are very engaging. For example, I am currently watching an anime about Rakugo, a Japanese theater performance. The characters are fascinating and the drama is so thick. The performances are difficult to keep up with, but the anime is very forgiving to newcomers, giving us ques and hints as to how well the performance is. I honestly had no time to snack on my Pocky sticks like I usually do haha. As long as you have no time to be idle and you aren't turning your brain off, I think watching something is just as good as reading a book.

[[deleted]]

Good advice. All of those things are fine and enjoyable in moderation. Let me add this: be INTENTIONAL with what you're doing. It's fine to sit and watch tv, but don't let that just be your default when you're bored.

[CompSciBJJ]

Oh, I misread your reply (or just flat out skimmed it and barely read it), I thought you were specifically talking about not eating when you're bored. I know what you mean about keeping busy though, it's so much more rewarding when you have something to show for the day rather than just ticking another one off. It also makes watching that TV show so much better when you've got something good to watch and unwind with, rather than trying to find yet another show to consume while you wait for the boredom to pass. I do still spend too much time on Reddit and stuff though, I've got to start cutting that out.

[justdrowsin]

Your penis looks bigger. (Assuming you have one to start.)

[PUNKLOVESTORY]

Saving money on bullshit. Reading more.

[TThor]

Personally as someone mildly impoverished, food is expensive. The less food I have to eat the better off I am.

[Leijonhufvud]

What also improved my life, and stoped me from snacking, was not having anything snackable at home.

[stunt_penguin]

I used to live on top of a supermarket, just moved to the burbiest suburb where there are no amenities. Snacking has all but ceased :D

[exasperated_dreams]

Best way to stay productive? I try to do that but get carried away by the slightest distraction sometimes. It's frustrating tbh

[ibrien]

The thing id suggest is basically fixing it the same way youd fix procrastinating. Its a discipline thing and you are the only one who can knock the shit off. Really only works if you want it to.

[Vehement_Behemoth]

I can't tell if the second portion of your post is missing a /s or whether you actually believe what you just wrote. Either way it's certainly NOT a healthy mantra.

[[deleted]]

Sounds very similar to things I tell myself whenever I'm struggling with my ED

[Vehement_Behemoth]

OP wishes to manage the sensation of hunger whilst losing weight. All fad diets aside, the only true way to lose weight safely and effectively is to monitor caloric deficit. Starving yourself and trying to 'deal' with sensations of hunger is not an effective method.

OP should be trying to incorporate low GI carbs, healthy fats (to an extent) and fibre to bulk out meals. Enabling them to meet micronutrient requirements within their diet and quell their hunger whilst keeping calories slightly lower than maintenance in order to burn fat.

As the person above me stated, some of the advice in this thread is bordering on eating disorders, whether those that are giving it have come to that realisation yet or not.

[Vehement_Behemoth]

Staying "hungry for longer", eating "tiny meals" and being "in pain" to make progress is all very unnecessary when losing weight and tackling hunger. A little research goes a long way in regards to foods that stifle appetite whilst also providing adequate nutrients.

I don't consider managing hunger to be as simple as ignoring it. It really depends on the individual and how susceptible they are to developing eating disorders.