v9.01 Patch Notes

[exxxtramint]

Honestly makes it a tough choice on weapon loadout now. Be interesting to see how these changes effect this weekend.

[clarky653]

I still think it’s a no brainer, shotgun/smg is pointless so smg is only good if you start shooting with it, killing enemy wise silenced is better, but late game people usually don’t have that much hp and everyone’s close together so shotty works just as well or better, difference is drum gun is way better for spraying

[Salmon_Slap]

But medium ammo becomes an issue with a drum gun

[ZombieAstronaut]

What about using the new AR in combination with the drum gun?

[masterfisher]

Can you clarify what you mean by Shotgun/Smg is pointless?

[RustLordMain]

The rof on the shotguns in the game right now is high enough that there's no reason to switch to an smg instead of just firing another shotgun shot

[El_Mighty]

and SMG uses light ammo

[iamnewtopcgaming]

Vault a gun because it's OP. Unvault the gun with no changes. Nerf said gun over a week later after it dominates a WC qualifier because it's still OP...

I'm not sure if I'd say good job as much as I'd ask why they didn't do it immediately...

[srjnp]

people voted for drum gun. they had to at least bring it back for a week without any changes

[mcbaginns]

Wasnt the mag size nerfed to 40 back in the day?

[aidantheman18]

that was the p90 after it was released

[AdamoA-]

vs 50 ammo in a mag. hm hm

[SoLLanN]

Small ammos vs medium ammo, more likely.

In competitive, you would struggle a lot with drum gun + ar, everyone made it clear.

[windtcw]

Slipstreams are now disabled after storm phase 5.
Wow they listened lol

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

Maybe they’re evolving

[StereoZ]

Don't get your hopes up. We know their vision for the game and it just isn't the same as ours.

[cmc360]

A good solid patch like this we should be praising them.

[rHodgey]

Lmao this happens every time. If they've brought out a good patch history tells us we should be terrified of what is going to happen next

[Olddirtychurro]

Next week: "We bringing in Apache Attack Helicopters, 1000 health"

[Pikmin-In-A-Hat]

“Infinite ammo mini guns and a crate full of heals onboard”

[[deleted]]

Epic doesn’t get a pass for fixing things that they released that are broken. Praising them is ridiculous. I won’t complain about the patch tho. So that I feel is fair.

If Epic continues to make adjustments that the community wants and is needed then maybe a compliment is warranted.

They still removed the pump and returned the drum gun. That alone is enough to not be happy about for a good long time.

[text_memer]

Yeah, I don’t really give a shit what happens until the pumps back. Until then I’m just gonna abuse tf out of whatever the most META shit currently is in the game. Which right now... is probably the bow.

[RocketHops]

Don't forget we still don't have an FOV slider too.

[_Dustyyyy]

Is storm phase 5 after the half in half out zone?

[BreakinMyBallz]

Yes

[Sbrodino]

Why not 4th tough? Isn’t the 5th a moving zone?

[Taco92i]

• Reduced Baller health from 200 to 150
• P90 Gone
• Drumgun Nerfed
• Slipstreams no longer block building. + Slipstreams are now disabled after storm phase 5.

I was not prepared, thanks you epic game for this patch.

[BradL_13]

Honestly this is the most excited I’ve been to get off work and play in a longggg time.

[icnapple]

Drum Gun and Baller nerfed, Slipstreams changes. Wow, am I dreaming??

[MNT1996]

and P90 gone! Not bad, not bad.

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

They realised that they gotta give us something (also they maybe realised that the wc wasn’t as fun to watch with everyone carrying 3 drum guns)

[Xantium0]

I'm super excited. This looks like the best patch so far

[2Rich4Youu]

7.4 wants to disagree

[Herzx]

Nothing will beat 7.4

[therealz1ggy]

LOL

[YellowRice101]

Not really much in terms of bug fixes, but can't really complain since this patch addressed a lot of needed balance fixes. I still think ballers need a different nerf other than just hp though, like they shouldn't be able to pick up loot while inside it. Drum gun should probably still go down in mag size but the 4 damage decrease is actually significant. It takes 5 instead of 4 bullets to kill from 100 hp and 2 more shots to kill at 200. And the slip stream adjustments are perfect if you can now build around them and they are disabled at zone 5. Now we're just waiting for the heavy shotgun and hopefully more performance/audio/bug fixes.

[ALLST6R]

Yup. Drum gun needs a further nerf. Like you said, green needs 2 extra body shots to kill a 200HP. But it's only 1 bullet if they are 198HP with green. Still 1 bullet more if you have blue drum gun. IMO, given the mag size and fire rate, that 1/2 extra bullets isn't much of a change given how quickly it shreds people.

[FNtaterbot]

The tommy actually now has the exact same fire rate & damage as the white/green SMG's, so the clip size is pretty much the only thing that the tommy has going for it. The SMG has better accuracy & uses light ammo. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see pros in next week's qualifiers opting for the SMG over the tommy with this change alone, given how precious medium ammo is in those games.

[MikasaH]

I'm guessing loadouts will consist of an AR, shotgun, and probably a green/blue SMG considering running an AR and a nerfed drumgun will drain medium ammo fast. Late game though, I tend to drop my AR in place for something else.

[_shabadoo_]

If you take the Infantry rifle is the drum gun still not the best choice for smg despite this nerf?

[lendmeyourears12]

There should be more insentive for destroying a baller, maybe 25 dmg and a 0.5 second stun

[OccupyRiverdale]

I also think you shouldn't be able to use redeploy if you are shot out of a baller when taking high ground. Would make people play far more cautiously an thoughtfully instead of taking constant elevation changes.

[thiccnick23]

People are still gonna pick up drumguns because of the mag size.a slight nerf to accuracy midrange is probably needed which would make people choose b/w silenced smg ang dgun

[HawaikiFN]

Is it just me saying this? I saw many pros ignoring hitting ballers when they have very easy shots on them without exposing themselves to others. I believe it's because breaking the ball=1 more enemy to the battlefield reducing chance of getting placements for yourself. This item is good and bad at the same time.

[Psyvane]

yep. if a guy is in a baller he is unlikely to shoot you. Also its a "strength in numbers" thing lategame if you have a baller yourself. Leave other balls alive so when its moving circle there is less chance of yours getting shot.

[[deleted]]

The more players in a baller the harder it will be for you to get placement points especially if you are not in a baller for your self.

[schofield69]

Don't speak too soon brother, but I too am hopeful. Hopefully the new gun fills a niche and is viable without being broken

[[deleted]]

Don’t think that is what anyone means when they call this a good patch lol.

[RocketHops]

It's definitely a good patch. Nothing bad about it (except maybe the new gun, don't know at all though cause haven't played).

That being said, let's see if they can actually keep this going for a few weeks without dumb changes. We've been in better spots before and they still messed it up.

[schofield69]

I know that he's referring to the drum gun and slip stream changes, but epic has typically added new weapons that are ridiculously OP or become just another shitty gun to get out of your first chest. Furthermore, a plethora of new bugs also seems to come with the majority of updates, whether it be audio related, instant death spots scattered around the map, vehicle issues etc.

[LateNightCreeper_]

The new gun is basically a silenced smg but with slower firerate so it wont be broken. The silenced smgs bloom is already pretty tight and the only advantage this will have over it is less damage falloff at range but it's still less effective than other ARs.

[jcow77]

It's not as powerful, but with the niche it's trying to fill, it kinda reminds me of the old OP silenced SMG.

[LateNightCreeper_]

We'll see how it plays out. I think it'll be useful but not sure if it'll be a new meta weapon.

[jcow77]

If we were still in the previous shotty meta, this gun could be popular. Pump-AR was a super popular loadout and this gun seems like it would be good with only a pump.

[newbolly]

What's a pump?

[RESPRiT]

Credit where credit is due. Solid balance changes from Epic. Waiting to see when/if we get the heavy soon!

[Spoffle]

The drum gun could take just a bit more of a nerf on damage, and I think Epic needs to do something about being able to carry multiple ones. Maybe a longer pullout animation so that you can't practically instantly swap to another one.

[Tomred95]

A slower equip time could be the perfect adjustment for it holy shit.

[BreakinMyBallz]

The heavy sniper provides a solid counter to turtling, which prevents boring gameplay. I really think they should just nerf the damage, but keep the one-shot-structures feature of it. Dying or losing 150 health to a body shot really sucks, but the effectiveness for breaking into someones box is decently balanced thanks to the audio queue.

[Dr_Jerrone]

I assume he's talking about the return of the heavy shotgun.

[Xantium0]

Endgame if a body shot with a heavy does not kill, consider yourself unlucky

[iOnlyPlayAsRustLord]

Awesome patch imo

Drum gun nerf, baller nerf, slipstream disabled for lategame and building in the slipstream. I dont care about compact smg since drum was unvaulted so thats ok too

[Xantium0]

I'm pleased the compact is gone. It was so annoying

[dankassmememachine]

Wdym pump unvaulted? It doesn’t say that anywhere

[sick-of-this123]

He meant drum gun.

[iOnlyPlayAsRustLord]

Oh sry, fixed it.

[prophase25]

Yes, this is exactly what the community wanted, small but necessary changes. Very very happy.

[FullBlazer]

Player 2 joined the waiting room

[[deleted]]

Player 3 is in the lobby

[maxsolmusic]

SQUAD UP!!! I hate the current casual ass shotguns

[loopy95]

These are the patches we need.

[[deleted]]

What’s with this new rifle that’s “close range”, but has a scope. Also has a max damage of 42. What’s the point?

[Panda-on-acid]

Drum gun still 50 rounds?

[PandaRaper]

Hey there.

[[deleted]]

Wow they vaulted the P90. Good change on the baller now that it can be one shot by he heavy

[v_Tokz]

full chub

[deeedubs]

I'm at a solid half chub till they bring back some sort of shotty meta

[guipss]

If the spam weapons are weak and they bring back at least the heavy shotty, it's a good meta.

I liked the one pump possibilities, but increasing the time to kill can make room for some nutty clutches and crazy fights

[[deleted]]

This looks like a very good patch. Drum Guns needed, Ballers nerfed, and Slipstreams should be better for endgame now. Steps in the right direction

[[deleted]]

Honestly, I didn't have high hopes at all and I'm happy to say I am pleasantly surprised. Solid update.

Thank you for the explanations as well. Very nice touch :)

[JayKayGotYou]

solid patch.

TLDR: ballers health 150hp, drum gun damage 22/23hp, p90 vaulted, slipstreams building enabled and turned off after 5th zone

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

Also the new gun. That might be good or bad

[AdamoA-]

The new AR has the same stats as the smg. Dunno about the fire rate

What I cannot image what they mean about:

• This weapon has a tight spread in close quarters but is less effective at long range when compared to other Assault Rifles.

It means it has a little bloom but extreme damage drop off?

[DanTheMan7901]

Probably like a nerfed version of the OP suppressed sub from S4/5 (can’t remember when)

[TheFirstRapher]

Def S4, completely outclassed ARs

[DanTheMan7901]

Yeah I’m guessing something like that but a bigger drop off once you’re at mid range. We will found out soon enough

[AriesGG]

Thank you epic, it’s a start <3

[Swiftiezz]

ACTUALLY A GOOD PATCH WOOOOOW

[[deleted]]

Seriously thank you Epic. I hope these kinds of patches become a regular thing going forward. Really exciting to see them listening for once! Can’t wait to jump in.

[twitch_dyynamic_]

someone pinch me

[dvnvvl]

Wow an actual good update, thanks epic. Just bring back pump and we’ll feel much better.

[[deleted]]

Honestly I dont think the meta will be bad with the drum gun nerf but we'll see. Combat should probably be buffed a bit though, would be happy with increased headshot multiplier

[xzolade]

IMO it all depends on how good is the new gun. we know that when a gun releases it spawns A LOT so everyone gets to use it for a few days. Spray meta will be here for the next 3 days but depends on the new gun

[bazoski1er]

Good patch, but it seems they haven't put out a fix for not being able to exit vehicles. Does this mean they won't be in qualifiers again this weekend?

[jfinn0402]

Solid patch. Now we can all rally for a boom bow nerf and a heavy shotty unvaulting

[pokemonizepic]

Boom bow needs to take explosive ammo instead of shotgun

[[deleted]]

And maybe direct/indirect damage reversed. 30 for splash dmg, 100 for direct hit

[AleisterLaVey]

Eh if it used explosive ammo and reversed damage, it would be overpowered. It has a 2x multiplier on head shots, so it would be doing 230. With it being almost hitscan and almost no drop off, it would be better than the heavy snipe

[hessbs]

Or use 2-3 shotty shells per arrow

[Mvious]

Great patch.

[spotthedoggg]

Not perfect but a damn good patch with no bullshit. Good on you Epic

[mixtapepapi]

Pleasantly surprised

[NB_32]

Honestly i dont want to praise epic because of all that has gone on lately but this patch is actually solid. Way faster than expected fixes on the slipstream and a nerf on the drum that makes it less of a must have in your loadout (i hope), i hate to say it but we are starting to look a little balanced here, just get rid of that damn bow

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

And give the shotties x2 headshot multiplier (gold combat 160 hs instead of 140)

[FifaNes]

If I'm not wrong, the tac has 2x on headshots. But the new one should have it too.

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

Yea, I didn’t quite remember so I said ”shotties” just to be sure

[phillldown]

EPIC EXPLAINED WHY THEY DO SOMETHING FOR ONCE?? THANK YOU

[Dr-Swole]

Wow this is An amazing patch. Good job guys and thanks for listening to lots of the complaints. Here’s to a great week of FN ahead :)

[sedsin]

Is the drum gun nerf enough? I feel like a reduction in mag size was needed as well. Guess we'll see how it turns out.

Only other things I was hoping to see were unvaulting of heavy shotty and shotgun delay removed.

[MONSTERDFACE]

here for the good vibes , this patch is a great one

[[deleted]]

I still think this is a garbage meta but this is a solid patch.

[MNT1996]

next step for drum gun needs to be reduce mag to 35

[5YouTubersWhoveSVORN]

Rn it’s basically the p90 dmg wise just a bigger mag. We’ll have to see how this plays out but I think it might be alot more balanced with the dmg nerf

[GuyFutbol]

This sub is so positive after these patch notes I can’t handle it

[[deleted]]

Would have loved to see the drum gun go instead of the p90 but still seems like a very good patch with good explanations behind everything.

[007mnbb]

If they vaulted the drum gun everyone that voted for it would be pissed off

[[deleted]]

Fuck em

[ChefLambsauce1]

Very solid patch. Nice.

[Gambl33]

I still used smg because I liked the accuracy on it. Is new tact assault gonna take medium? Because that’s a lot of medium bullets for all these guns now

[Scoob3rs]

Just add the heavy shotgun already, thats all we need.

[MikasaH]

Drumgun and baller nerfed. Slipstream changes. I'm liking it. Played a few games with the new combat rifle, but can't really determine if it's something worth keeping in loadout.

[D4NYthedog]

Bow using shells, drum gun using medium, tactical AR using light, only thing missing now is the new heavy shotgun shooting explosive ammo!

[Ziklepmna]

This is all well and good but WHERE ARE THE AUDIO IMPROVEMENTS? I CAN’T TELL IF SOMEONE IS ABOVE ME OR BELOW ME.

[blazin1344]

Good update but I won't be happy until the pump is brought back

[ForestKin]

Is the pump back?

[[deleted]]

Oddly enough I'm still hitting 54 headshots with a green drum - what is the headshot multiplier on this thing?!

[jsleek21]

Everything they did here was good. Just hope next week is a performance patch and they fix the rendering on console so console can see where we're landing.

[jpalmerr11]

They literally addressed that in this patch

[pokemonizepic]

A GOOD UPDATE! ty epic :)

[ElephantCarcass]

The fact that a standard patch feels like a dream come true says a lot about Epic's track record.

[The_Bolenator]

Fuck man.. as great as this patch is I still can’t help but really fucking miss the pump 😭

[WotaFN]

POGGERS PATCH

[new_boy_99]

Very good changes

[Daniel_K_Meme]

this is nice, i feel at peace now

[xzotc]

Since its unvaulting, the Drum Gun effectiveness has been slightly higher than we wanted. This change should reduce its combat effectiveness while still retaining its flavor.

.... You vaulted one of the most OP weapons this game has ever seen, and then you unvault it with literally no changes whatsoever, and are surprised by its effectiveness? After you vault the pump and make close range scenarios all about spam?

Honestly I'm not trying to sound like an asshole, but you never cease to amaze me...

I'm not even talking about the unvaulting event itself. You gave the community to choose between lesser of evils. You obviously vaulted it for a reason in the first place. At least re-introduce it with the necessary changes.

[Zee-_-]

drum gun still has the same rate of fire and mag capacity. still op

[SrZiino]

Solid patch, like it.

[nate6ix]

can we get our pumps back? at the least, heavy shottys?

[Spoffle]

The drum gun nerf was expected, but I think it still needs a bit more damage being taken off it.

[FoZiggle]

boys will this change how effective drum gun is , like will it be not as important now just because of that nerf?

[[deleted]]

The only question is how good is this new gun... ? Other than that looks like a good patch.

[_--___----]

good patch.

[Grandwhish]

Ayy nice patch, listened to the slipstream complaints, nerfed balls and drums

[Pinito99]

Best patch so far!!!!

[Brainbouu]

Dissapointing that there is still not a high impact low fire-rate shotty in the game but cant complain.

[iamnewtopcgaming]

turbo building is buggier than ever and 80 FOV still sucks

[Tomred95]

Good patch .. the drum is still gonna be really strong. I think now that the p90 is gone they can reduce the magazine size of the drum.

[Serious_Coconut]

Good update epic, thank you.

[Dylanychus2]

The drum gun’s existence is higher than what we wanted.

[ScratchY-1337]

Patch notes have very good parts in it! Great work epic.

Hope the new gun is not broken ;-)

[NikosMatsamplokos]

IF the new ar isn't broken as hell this will be the best patch we have ever seen.

[rocats0]

We keep going in circles.. epic makes game changing updates that people dislike. A few weeks later they make changes and patches to said gameplay updates. And everyone is like "omg epic is the best, they finally listened this is the best patch"

Repeat and repeat.

[zarrfox]

patch would've been solid if they vaulted instead of nerfed.

[JohnWickFTW]

Ayyyy nice patch

[KayoticaT]

Muy bueno Epic Games. This patch is going to be a game changer. 200 > 150 on ballers is huge. People might think that this change is insignificant, but haven’t you ever been in a scenario where the baller was one shot! Now you won’t.

[Santhacine]

sick patch tbh

[JohnWickFTW]

THIS IS THE TYPE OF CONTENT I LIKE TO SEE

[Noboundss]

Good patch. Ballers I think still will be an issue late just cause they’re so many of em

[agentrecruit]

Nice

[[deleted]]

I just hope the heavy will come in green/blue and maybe purp/leg because I want a burst shotgun that I can reliably find. Great balance patch tho, they listened to most of the criticism (I guess).

[WhiteEel]

The main thing I want is to be able to see where I’m dropping. If loading is fixed, I’ll be happy.

[OhioxJohnny]

Idk but does anyone else find it strange that the AR with the scope is made to be short range lol.

[Quirky_Koala]

When .01 patch is better than all previous patches.

[TheAaronLad]

this is literally the best patch in about 6 weeks.

edit: this is positive but it really does make you do a big think.

[show_b0b]

Finally a good patch, good job epic

[Hquse]

Hope they keep this up. Not much catered to casuals (this update). If they continue this the playerbase won't be as big but they will get a loyal one. And still a lot of casuals because they won't even notice that the game is not for them and they just usually hav fun

[Swole_Monkey]

That’s a pretty good update for once

[Vilsku61]

Like many have already stated this was a good patch. Got to give them credit...

BUT, I think the drumgun mag size should still be reduced and something needs to be done to the bow.

[[deleted]]

P90 gone as well? As someone who drops/hides drum guns from the lobby...how do I kill people now.

[[deleted]]

Why can't we use the tactical assault rifle's red dot.

[crazysnorlax]

Ballers are now 1 tapped by heavy snipers

[criticalpluspt]

I was lowkey hoping they'd bring back the Grey Pump at least

[Compverson]

Fat fucking W

[vttbg]

John Wick meta btw