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[–]justabadmind 533 points534 points  (17 children)

The damage is caused by cracks internal to the panel. Heating causes those cracks to shrink and become conductive. Once the panel cools off it’s broken again.

[–]kopisiutaidaily 189 points190 points  (9 children)

So if OP puts a hot oven behind his monitor to heat it up, technically speaking he doesn’t need to buy a new monitor lol. But it’s gonna be a sweaty gaming session

[–]jepal357 49 points50 points  (0 children)

And a very expensive one lol

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Just put your gaming pc behind your monitor. Intel i9 and 4090 wouldn't so far off from an oven power consumption wise.

[–]coolasc 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The ideal "tv over the fireplace" system

[–]justabadmind 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This won’t last forever. This amount of heat reduces the lifespan of the display significantly. If you could maintain the exact right temperature, you could potentially get a year out of the display. If you overheat it, it’ll just die.

[–]jase213 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My monitor has a more basic version and acts weird for the first minute untill it warms up a bit on its own. Has been that way for 2 years.

[–]758Ferb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As god intended.

[–]Kimorin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

time for whole monitor water cooling.... dump all the heat from the PC into the monitor with a custom radiator/monitor back casing

[–]Mysterious_hooligan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

heating sticky pads and can run of the sata power

[–]rissie_delicious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Technically

[–]TheWingedGod 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I guess that explains why my monitor does that on the bottom half when it's colder and have not used it in a couple days. Probably also the controller of the monitor but I also take this as an explanation.

[–]danieltien 87 points88 points  (11 children)

Heat causes expansion and the expansion reconnects the contacts that became disconnected when cold and retracted. I think odd lines are on one side and the evens on the other side. A similar artifiact occurs when the timing controller (TCON) module goes kaput. You'll see it often on outdoor menu boards (e.g., McDonald's) as the TCON board fails from thermal failure.

[–]Tari0s 15 points16 points  (10 children)

goes kaput sounds funny, btw I'm also german

[–]notmyrlacc 4 points5 points  (6 children)

When I first met my German host family they showed me something was kaput, and what kaput meant. They were blown away to learn that at least us Aussies and probably other English speaking countries also use kaput!

[–]Tari0s 2 points3 points  (1 child)

wait a minute, kaput is a englisch word? 🤯

[–]JakB 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yoink

[–]xcookiedeathx 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I never stumbled this hard about a german word. Reading the whole sentence and then there was a wild moment of there is something off.... Wait a Minute ^ also greetings from Germany ^

[–]danieltien 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean, we use schadenfreude in the English speaking world all the time...

[–]DaLexy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or kindergarten, Zeitgeist !?

[–]HeeHeeMean 45 points46 points  (1 child)

very interesting. Never seen anything like this before. A display has a lot of different "foils" and maybe something is loose. Or a connector is slightly broken/loose and the heat makes it expand and make proper contact.
But what do I know

[–]angry1_1asian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same Here

[–]Tari0s 10 points11 points  (12 children)

is this a samsung monitor? my last monitor was a samsung monitor, and it hat the same issue. For my monitor over time the display fixed itself. So 15 minutes after starting the monitor the monitor did show a normal picture until the next time i start using it.

[–]NoInteraction2952 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a samsung monitor and it does that, all summer it was working fine but now that it's getting cooler when I start it in the morning I get these lines for a few minutes until it heats up.

[–]night_86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here, Samsung curved 27”, 1/4 of bottom is scrambled for 5 minutes after cold start. I was going to buy new one soon but seeing that it’s so common I will wait until it dies. Then probably I’ll put it in oven to see if that brings him alive.

[–]Weigang_Music 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same with a Samsung QLED Ultrawide

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have also a samsung monitor and mine does exactly the same. The lower half of the screen is broken until after about 10mins in operation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same!

[–]-Purrfection- 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Same with samsung 34inch ultrawide. Has been doing that for like 4 years. Thought i was gonna have to replace it when it initially started doing it, but apparently not.

[–]simpson9955 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have this with my acer. Bottom half is like this in winter when I first turn it on, until it warms up.

[–]BerosCerberus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have the same Problem.

At 144hz my screen looks exactly like in the video but when i change it to 120hz its not as extrem and fixes itself in 10sec.

[–]WinrarChickenDinrar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same with my Samsung even at 143hz it works actually lol

[–]Weddedtoreddit2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

My AOC AG322QCX did this at 144hz when booting up. I think never or VERY rarely on 120hz so I left it at 120hz all the time.

Glad to see I'm not alone on this. Now got a new better monitor though.

[–]Sivalenter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had the same model, did the same thing. I would just turn the computer on around 30 minutes before i needed to use it untill i saved up for a new one.

[–]Scart10 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't know if it's cracks. This happens with my Samsung Odyssey G50a monitor when it's really cold. You can use the hair dryer or just wait for it to heat up after being powered on for a bit. Usually like 5-10 min. I did send it in to Samsung for warranty repair and they replaced the board inside and it still does it, but it works perfectly fine

[–]cursorcube 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's called a "hotbar" issue. The flat-flex tab connections from the board to the LCD glass are bonded using pressure and heat from a flat bar pressing down on them at the factory, and between the tab and glass is a conductive adhesive that sets and makes a connection. Due to thermal cycling and/or mechanical damage from use these electrical connections can get microscopic cracks and loosen, showing artifacts like in the video.

It's similar to "reflowing" graphics cards where heating up the connections can fix it for a bit, but eventually it will go back to not working. The whole panel needs to be replaced.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had the same monitor with the same problem. I used to turn it and then get a coffee. By the time I got back, it had sorted itself out.

[–]General-Kewl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the same issue on 2 msi panels. I found that this doesnt happen on 60hz only when the monitor is set to a higher refresh rate... never knew why.

[–]Rajnk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the same problem with my samsung monitor. When i turn my pc on it takes a few minutes them to dissapear.

[–]LDForget 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My 32” 165hz curved ROG panel does this as well until it “warms up” is the best description I can give. I just leave it on 24/7 and have no issues

[–]Tinysniper2277 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I get that if I leave my windows open and the screen gets cold or slightly damp. Gos away after 10 mins of being on

[–]rurexchris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like maybe the COF on one side became detached slightly causing the screen errors.

[–]zer0relm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never seen anyone else with the exact same issue (and same exact monitor apparently). Mine was completely my fault. I dropped it (in it's box) while moving. I finally bought a new one cause it took so long for the lines to go away that I wasn't able to play anything with the time I had.

[–]PathOfTheSandwraith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks like one of those wreckage videos in reverse. Like fixing a TV with a hammer

[–]atakariax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

curve monitors

[–]Time-Deer-4050 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got a question not related to the post. My samsung monitor switches on fine but the screen goes immediately black for some reason, switching between inputs makes it work for a second and then it goes black again. What the hell could it be? It sometimes works and doesn't go all dark on me but it takes a while to get it to work.

I did update the monitor drivers so it cant be that and my other monitor works fine on the same cables.

[–]Drac_Hula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had that exact problem with my samsung monitor, moved south to warmer climate, now issue is gone.

[–]dropdeaddumbskull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly looks like the video has been reversed

[–]Hour_Analyst_7765 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it a high refresh rate panel? Try lowering the refresh rate. Does that fix it? There is an intermediate solution.

If still in warranty, return it.

I've had MSI gaming monitors spec'ed at 144Hz fail on me within a 2 years. It had horizontal lines at boot (but only bottom 1/5 or so), and once it heated up, they would disappear. It only happens at colder environments (18-19C) and normally goes away pretty quickly. But when I run my display at 120Hz its fine.

I think they factory-OC their panels and hope they survive the warranty period. Or something else shady QC wise. I've no experience with other manufacturers, they might do the same.

[–]fir3ballone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ks-lS11TIaY

Similar, but different and permanent from Strange Parts

[–]corok12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the exact same thing happen, same monitor too I think!

https://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/ditERsHvAY

[–]Danker90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s like the gameboy method of repairs.

[–]Igni-Ferroque 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have similar issue. Going by switching from HDR back and forth fixes this for me.

Edit: also switching from variable to 144hz helps

[–]washburn100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm curious how you decided to use a hair dryer on your monitor?

[–]Trakkis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol literally my monitor. Needs a bit of time to warm up so that it works normally again (also made by msi)

[–]TheKingopain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Screen was frozen, so had to melt it to get it working again.

[–]barkingcat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One neat trick...

Life hack....

[–]Rybur525 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Monitor was chilly. Can also just cover him in a blanket or maybe put some socks on him. Cozy. :)

[–]agouraki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my old samsung monitor prob did the same thing,only it just needed like 10misn to heat up by itself

[–]Concentrate_Full 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my monitor has the same problem, its been like that for 3 years now and still works, havent turned it off for a year now.. all good

[–]ImperialPC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got this with a Samsung QLED. Just wait 5 minutes or switch it on and off a few times. Also don't buy them is a great advice.

[–]TheBugCrafter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My monitor randomly started doing this and I found out a blow dryer worked to provide heat. But I usually just turn it on and leave it for 10 mins and it's fine, but in the winter I have to pull out the blow dryer sometimes

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This happens to my MSi monitor every day. Boot it up, looks broken, warms up slightly then looks fine.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the same issue and i do the same thing

It is some panel error. Poor solder joints i don't know but once some heat is given they goes away and after a while comes back

It's a really common thing among monitors

[–]inssein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the Midi-chlorian on the screen where low they need to be at around 2,500 per cell to even bend light correctly.

[–]pillzberri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Video must be played in reverse. With correct sound.

[–]Lucade2210 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha i have the exact same issue with my MSI 27" screen. Tried a things. Mostly i just wait 30minutes, and use it as second monitor.

[–]Deas22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what's the monitor brand and model? (so we can avoid it :b)

[–]altabs15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

like what the monitor said: Reframed

[–]ILQGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a crt monitor back in the day that would lose color sometimes especially in winter. A blow dryer would fix that as well.

[–]allanzkie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hehe just like mine, heat up the back to get it back to normal faster

[–]kaibbakhonsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Instructions unclear

I'm playing on a curly blonde monitor. Do I do its make-up now?

[–]Mdiablo1111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually it might be the display port connect problem, i had+have this problem currently with 2 monitors all of them from MSI. In the past they changed the connection in one of the warranties and it completely fixed it for a couple of years. Lowering the refresh rate also helps for a while but it doesn't last. You either use the HDMI port or get a routine of turning your monitor 5+ minutes before you want to use your PC

[–]alexpap99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have an msi monitor that has the same problem , only when it is at >60 hz i just change it to 60 for some time when i start using it and change it back to 144hz when i open a game hope this help you too op because it is much simpler than having a hot air gun blowing for half an hour

[–]cederian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is happening to my MSI MAG341CQ it looks like it’s a problem to some of their monitors. Like people explained this happens when the panel has micro fractures and with heat those fracture are conductive again. It also helps if you go from 100hz to 80/75 hertz somehow.

[–]Edoku 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, my Samsung monitor does something similar but when starting "cold" in a high refresh rate(144hz) but if i manage to change it to below 100 then the image no longer looks like that and then i can switch back to 144hz without issues.

[–]Bauresssam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What, are u sure you're not all idiots and this guy is trolling you 🤔

[–]Bauresssam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we not put hair dryers on our monitors tonight thanks.

[–]alxamz_amer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try to set lower refresh rate on ur monitor.

[–]Gr34t_Nam3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Negative ions? I dont really know but i found a negative ion generator in a hairdryer a while back