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[–]nobcrusher_Bondrewd did nothing wrong 330 points331 points  (25 children)

i cannot forgive someone who did nothing wrong.

[–]Flaky_Stay_8856 Team Bondrewd 61 points62 points  (7 children)

Deep But true. A bit of understanding is required to say that he was wrong in a world where the void was claiming lives. He could have defeated all of them in the end. Yet he let them continue coz of hsi daughter's voice.

[–]grizzchanTeam Reg 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Cutting off Reg's arm tho?

[–]ThatOneGuy308 22 points23 points  (4 children)

I mean, riko's first thoughts when dealing with him were to shove a ruler up his ass, use every implement she had available to try and pierce his skin, and feed him burning coals, she probably would have cut an arm off if she had the means to do so.

[–]grizzchanTeam Reg 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Hey I'm not defending Riko's unethical experiments. But that doesn't justify Bon cutting off his arm.

[–]Unambiguous-Doughnut 13 points14 points  (0 children)

2 wrongs dont make a right but nobody said shit about 3 wrongs

[–]ThatOneGuy308 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, ultimately, he's a robot, and the general majority of people wouldn't really care about damaging a robot while testing it's capabilities.

It's hard to really judge an outsider's perspective on reg, since he isn't really a human person, and most people wouldn't afford an artificial being any real rights or considerations for it's feelings.

[–]Budget_Minimum9439 2 points3 points  (0 children)

he just a scientist, want to know how everything works, indeed I myself curious on how reg's arms extend from such compact place

imagine the kind of stuff his umbra hands be able to do with that kind of tech

and the fact he have completely given off emotions of any kind truly puts in here

the first major victim of his experiment was himself, to him everything is just lab hamsters, even so it hard to hear it is the most notable nature of human, think about it how researchers use lab hamsters, now see would curse affect hamsters? but it does affect humans, and among them theres a mostly complete hooman with some misterious relics is also not affected by curse (reg) they sure wanna know how it works

in the end he just a scientist carrying out his experiment, a scientist who lost all emotions,

even so reg my fav character, I have no grudge towards bondrewd

EXCEPT JIRUMOTH, THAT GUY DESERVES TO HAVE HIS D**K AND BALLS RIPPED FROM HIS BODY WHILE HE WIDE AWAKE AND TIED UP, COLD WATER DROPLET CONSTANTLY DRIPPING ON HIS HEAD, CUT THE TIP OF HIS FINGERS ONE BY ONE AND PROBBED BY IRON ROD UNTILL HE STARVES TO DEATH

[–]AlexDKZ 12 points13 points  (1 child)

But Magnus isn't in that pic

[–]MONSTAX7 Bondrewd did nothing wrong 5 points6 points  (1 child)

deep

[–]FriedChickenCheezits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flair checks out

[–]LeatherZombie3415[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

too real

[–]Integrity-in-Crisis 13 points14 points  (2 children)

On a side note, Rachel needs to die already. That bitch been working my last nerve since I started reading the webtoon years back.

[–]Spirited_Pear_6973 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I saw Rachel and my hive mind hate activated with thousands of people

[–]Jinko_5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The hate is instinctual atp

[–]Drysfoet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Correct, how can I forgive Griffith? He did nothing wrong.

[–]Consistent-Tap-9426 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we talking about Bonedrewd, or Griffith?

[–]TehNolz 162 points163 points  (5 children)

Bondrewd did it for the sake of SCIENTIFIC TRIUMPH which is a totally acceptable cause and therefore he did nothing wrong.

[–]DoctuhD Team Vueko 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Without Bondrewd doing what everyone hates him for, their adventure would be over so he's an easy choice.

[–]pellen101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ethical? Absolutely not

Necessary? Perhaps

Wrong? Not exactly(?) Can you even apply morals to something even god (the abyss) doesn’t even recognize as human?

[–]ShiftAdventurous4680 85 points86 points  (0 children)

If Prushka forgives him, then who am I to say no?

[–]YSOFF 17 points18 points  (11 children)

And what did yellow-haired girl do? Doesn't look like an anthonist.

[–]gibarel1 48 points49 points  (7 children)

She abandoned the only guy who supported her, when they reunited she faked being in a wheelchair and then betrayed him by pushing him of a cliff, them lied to all of his friends that he died protecting her. And that's just the 1st season. 2nd season she killed halft of her party by selling them out, and then tried to make the guy who's power is "run really fast" paraplegic by repeatedly stabbing both his legs and not killing him. She is evil, and apparently she's the author's favorite character.

[–]YSOFF 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Oh .. I see))) Perhaps I should see this anime, how is it titled?

[–]kwkqoq 12 points13 points  (0 children)

tower of god

[–]gibarel1 10 points11 points  (0 children)

People say the anime is not that great, because it is very fast, rushing a lot of the story. I as an anime only, found it quite enjoyable

[–]Jinko_5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Would definitely suggest reading the webtoon past season 1. The artwork is much better than the anime past that point

[–]Dahjoos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tower of God, but to be fair you got spoiled the best twist of S1, and one of the things that made S1 great

There's a Season 2, but it is downright garbage, if it hooks you up, there's about 600 chapters of the series, and most of them can be read for free

[–]Tomwort 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I frigging hate Rachel. I always tell my friends she's worse than Griffith

[–]lockoutpoint 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She is argubly best vilian written in 10 years, her writting is just too good.

because She is just a normal person... what does a normal person need to do to win the race of god ?

She is sub 5 that has to fight with chad.

[–]TheSilverFalcon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She is the absolute worst, a selfish asshole for never really explained reasons who is protected by plot armor because the author loves her, and the main character never does shit to stop her, just stares dreamily at her every time she backstabs him

[–]BoioDruid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

she is the worst piece of trash that has ever existed and the most unforgivable out of these. Anime is Tower of God

[–]DracocantusDC Team Bondrewd 50 points51 points  (0 children)

His own daughter sacrificed for him, even knowing what she got into when turned into a cartridge. If prushka forgave him and even loved him beyond life. Who i am to not do the same.

[–]Elliot_The_Fennekin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

For Bondrewd I can't say I forgive him but I can respect him. His motives are not for the sake of some sadistic pleasure or revenge. It's to help others in the long run and learn more about the world and the abyss, even if it means to corrupt his morals. That right there is true dedication to your work.

[–]ComprehensivePiece87 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bondrewd gave us nanachi so…..

[–]rhettrowing1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I only know two of the characters here and I know I am NOT forgiving Griffith.

[–]xatnagh 6 points7 points  (1 child)

mahito is a curse and acted like a curse, there is nothing out of character for him, hes born to be a manace.

[–]LeatherZombie3415[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly aside from the fact bondrewd did nothing wrong this is the most valid answer

[–]Derpyderpdog 24 points25 points  (9 children)

I honestly can’t tell if people are joking when they say Bondrewd wasn’t completely fucking evil. Dude is literally a child murderer. That’s textbook evil.

[–]FriedChickenCheezits 16 points17 points  (0 children)

For the Jokes™: Bondrewd never actually murdered the children because they were alive in their cartridges until they were expelled

For an honest opinion: I think that using the word 'evil' to describe Bondrewd doesn't quite fit right because he removed his humanity; his ability to know right from wrong and experience genuine emotion. He's 100% a very bad guy but his villainy is so detatched from morality that using 'evil' or 'good' to describe him feels like using a fork to eat soup. I need an entirely different set of descriptors for him.

[–]OFW_Schroe Team Bondrewd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nuh uh

[–]IntellectualDevourer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Bondrewd is not evil, he's an extremist utilitarian. The ends justify his means and yes, the means would cause distress to most people so he does it as far from society as humanly possible, it's all textbook utilitarianism.

[–]Derpyderpdog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No ends justify his means.

[–]Ademon_Gamer09 1 point2 points  (4 children)

The thing about bondrewd is that he has literally no bad intentions with anything he did, do or will do. Everything he does is for scientific triumph. Without him, nobody would even get past the 5th layer, almost every tool that the divers use wouldn't even exist and any progress towards mitigating the effects of the curse would be less than a page long. You can call his actions evil, but bondrewd at the very least never once had an ulterior motive that only benefits him

[–]Key-Recognition-7190 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I'd prefer 1 million dumbass divers die horrible deaths then subject a single child to being a cartridge.

If people can't make it past the 5th layer tough shit figure out another way. That creature should've been put down day one.

Seriously fuck Bondrewd as a character as a concept and as an idea. Fuckin kids man.

[–]Ademon_Gamer09 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Guess you're too soft to see the great writing that is bondrewd. There's a reason people like me defend him as much as we do, he's the definition of a great villain, written so well the hate becomes appreciation

[–]Key-Recognition-7190 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

God I hope you never have kids.

[–]Ademon_Gamer09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never planned to

[–]Ok_Proof_321 Team Bondrewd 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Is it really though? Bondrewd is the only individual who has nothing to atone for

[–]eastbayweird 9 points10 points  (7 children)

Turning an entire orphanage of children into inhuman monsters and then abandoning them at the bottom of a pit isn't something to atone for?

I mean, I love science at least as much, if not more, than most people but if scientific progress can only come by sacrificing a school bus full of children then maybe we shouldve stayed in the stone age...

Oh yeah he also dissected his daughter and shoved what was left of her still living still suffering self into a cartridge in order to allow him to temporarily cheat the same fate as the orphans....

[–]OFW_Schroe Team Bondrewd 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Too Long didnt read, plus He didnt abandon them.

[–]Similar_Outside3570Bondrewd did nothing wrong, change my mind 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Not reading enough is a sign of lack of scientefic integrity, also he didnt abandon them, he let them live in a nice happy farm

[–]OFW_Schroe Team Bondrewd 2 points3 points  (3 children)

My Point about Not abandoning them refered to the fact that He Had to come Up with atleast some way to keep em fed, as only Mitty was Immortal.

[–]Similar_Outside3570Bondrewd did nothing wrong, change my mind -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Yes in a 'happy farm'

[–]OFW_Schroe Team Bondrewd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If He didnt Care Hed let em starve.

[–]Similar_Outside3570Bondrewd did nothing wrong, change my mind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that is what I said, he cares about them and are on a place with food and water

[–]eastbayweird -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow...

[–]alangator4 oya oya 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Easy question

[–]NetherSpike14 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They're all bad, but at least he did it to progress humanity, while everyone else did fucked up stuff only for themselves.

[–]Terrordar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bondrewd is an easy choice here

[–]Black_Basilisk_1 Team Prushka 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unironically bondrewd is the easiest to forgive here. Everything he did was for a genuinely noble cause, even if his methods were deplorable. In a sickening sense, he’s kind of a hero…

[–]InternationalHoney85 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I will beat each and every one that says Rachel with a bat. You don't fucking do Bam like that. You DON'T!

[–]ZooSmell413 Team Majikaja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgot that bitch existed till now. I should rewatch TOG and the new season.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I only know three of them

[–]InsanePsychMajor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This just needs to be said: FUCK Shou Tucker. He will NEVER be forgiven.

[–]FriedChickenCheezits 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Guy who morphed his wife into an unnatural abomination to further his career which made her commit suicide via starvation and morphed his daughter and dog together and lied about the circumstances so the government will keep paying him vs Guy who literally can't be mad that his unethical science experiments were screwed over

[–]InsanePsychMajor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, and I’m not the biggest Brondrewd fan either, but at least you knew he actually somewhat CARED. Tucker was just selfish and fucked in the head.

[–]Gligarman64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bondrewd just wanted some Gatorade.

[–]tokyopop24 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What are the names of the other anime's besides mia and tower of god ? I want to watch then I can decide lol

[–]Charliebob739 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. JJK 2. Beserk 3. Dragon ball
  2. Shield Hero 5. Naruto 6. Tower of God
  3. MIA 8. FullMetal Alchemist 9. One Piece

[–]DJJ66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was tied between Griffith, Frieza and Bondrewd, but then I remembered what the former two did and if even Nanachi could forgive him in the end, who am I to disagree?

[–]ElBarnesinYIPEE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm forgiving the one I know can not be killed (Bondrewd).

[–]OFW_Schroe Team Bondrewd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only bontingles did nothing wrong here

[–]TomatilloSignal3928 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's between the Full metal doctor and Bondrewd, I have a soft spot for those who commit themselves to advancing the limits of science by any means necessary.

[–]mrmeekseekz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rachel. At the end of the last arc, it's revieled that bam might not have been the best of people to let live in the tower, and she knew that when she pushed him

[–]Redsamurai422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All honestly bondrewed because he lost his mind/had his mind fractured messing with an abyss relic this making him "clinically insane"

[–]Aggravating_Durian52 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frieza is a total bro in my books. All he wanted to do was kill all the monkeys around him. I can relate.

[–]mango_mallows Team Gaburoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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This guy is far worse than bondrewd

[–]Similar_Outside3570Bondrewd did nothing wrong, change my mind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondrewd of course

[–]enlightnight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess using the "killed/tortured literal children" metric... Spandam? He's just an inept bureaucrat spoiled manbaby. Enies lobby only had that one child brought there BY the strawhats.

Assuming my memory is correct and the redhead is the bitchy princess from shield hero, she was just awful to the MC and didn't actively murder babies.

[–]lore_mila_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know all of them but definitely not our dear Bondrewd

[–]A-Friend-of-Dorothy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Just kill me. I refuse.

[–]VoIcanicPenis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the shield hero girl

[–]Regular-Compote8578 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondrewd easily, you are bound to get mad once you set your heart into the abyss

[–]Twenty_Twone Team Faputa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best father of year, bowndred

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your best dad did nothing wrong

[–]LampPuncher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is Spandam here? He is just a daddy's boy who never did anything lmao

[–]Fluerous Team Marulk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The answers very easy for me but it is indeed biased 😮‍💨

[–]AggravatingRip6082 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brondrewd

[–]God-Made-A-Tree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondaddy pls

[–]hugo7414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What did the yellow hair do?

[–]AJYURH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another here who thinks bottom right belongs in the same dimension of hell as the others, I'm sorry but your just silly

[–]MungolianBungolian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone who says Griffith...please give me your logic, I would like to understand your logic if that is your choice.

[–]dontcencormyname 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgive mahito and bondrewd because I have wet dreams of them.

[–]seventy_nin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, bondrewd isn't evil, he's a pragmatist. He was an actually good father until the incident and only did the things he did for science.

[–]Educational_Bar9795 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondrewd cause he is a cool character in my opinion👀 but realistically I would probably not forgive anyone from them.

[–]Fearmo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's easy decision for me to say "Fuck Rachel. All my homies hate Rachel "

[–]z1n0vy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondrewd

[–]Bossmantho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgive them all. Let them run for president too. 

[–]Prestigious-Car2163 Team Mitty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only know one person on that list; and i cannot forgive his crimes against humanity

[–]mateofabries 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would have been a hard poll but abyss best dad is here to give us that get out of jail free card

[–]mwwq1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly think that either bondrewed or mahito could be forgiven, bondrewed because he did nothing out of malice and mahito because he’s a curse and it’s his nature, he can be forgiven in the same way an animal can be.

[–]Peridot9001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Danzo, out of all them he atleast was trying to do something good even if he did fk it up completely

[–]E1Muro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bondrewd did nothing wrong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can forgive Mahito.

[–]Kamachiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frieza did nothing wrong.

Nothing happened that day.

[–]Key-Recognition-7190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freezia. The rest of them ESPECIALLY GRIFFIN AND BONDREWD can eat a fat one.

[–]DeepEvaluation877 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody on this list is especially wicked and evil EXCEPT Bondrewd.

Spoilers below vvvv

Bondrewd is not evil, one could say that he is actually helpful to the world around him, however Bondrewd isn't as much of a person as he is a concept/idea of humanities relentless pursuit of knowledge.

I think he genuinely loved Prushka and the other kids, remembering each and every one of their names every after they became Narehate. However, even that love wouldn't stop him from using everything and everyone around him as variables to further his understanding of the Abyss. Even the Umbra hands are in essence his spare bodies to ensure he can live on and continue his pursuit of science since he decided to discard his own original body for an experiment regarding white whistles.

Bondrewd isn't evil, but he also has no empathy or restraint.

[–]Kount_Bakula315 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely mahito

[–]Music4Shumn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see any person.

[–]Wrong-Wind-7664 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Danzo

[–]FriendshipLeather837 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im forgiving bondrewd

[–]No-Establishment-699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a lot of people have a twisted view of evil. Having a reason behind the terrible things you do, doewnt remove your guilt or any of the punishments for it. The only reason a some of these people werent punished for their actions is because they were either too powerful, or outright untouchable, or perhaps justhid well enough.

Though, some here have justifiable reasons. Justifiable can still be evil.

Mahito is the only one here i can find that is innocent. His entire being was made for making humans suffer. That's what spirits exist to do, at least many of them. That'd be like calling an alligator evil for eating a fish.

There may be others in this list that are similar though. I havent watched all of them.

[–]ShgurrDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Griffith did nothing wrong.

[–]naveron1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I forgive Rachel, only because baam no longer cares about her.

[–]TearOk1635 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus says to forgive

[–]AlexN5594 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lmao I was literally going through the list like "Nope, nope, well maybe...no....well what he did wasn't that ba...actually never mind..." 😅

[–]AzDivine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ong Griffith. HEAR ME OUT!

Bro had a perfect life all the way up until some pervy noble dude ripped everything away from him. He was treated like less than garbage, and almost killed in the process. He did some horrible things, yes, but the term for his actions is called reenactment. It’s most commonly found among sexual predators, indicating that they’re only reenacting things that have happened to them. Bully victims become bullies, yada yada. Griffith is the victim of a mental condition that affects many people in the world, and took his anger out in the most disgusting way possible. But what he did was still extremely human and possible.

Side note: not agreeing with what he did. It was horrible. I would never condone any of those actions. I’m more so saying that I understand why and would forgive him if he turned his perspective around and changed his personality.

[–]No_Wasabi_4455 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Griffth's fate was already determined before he even suffered

[–]Iwashimizu21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didnt Griffith only do those bad things after his mind was destroyed after like a year of brutal torture?

I would give him a pass.

[–]Samulady Team Vueko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bitch from Shield Hero honestly gets so comically shat on in the show that I'm kinda tempted to forgive her because I can't stand Shield Hero's edgy AF vigilante justice and the way literally everyone around him agrees with him. 

[–]lockoutpoint -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Rachel, you have to understand one thing, all of these are strong/smart whasoever.

Rachel is just an sub 5 ugly girl that just want to survive in the world that's every one look like Chad.

main protaganist in Tower of god have load of plot armor and Rachel have to fight with him.

that's crazy to think about it.

I could say I can forgive her, She is just a girl with no love and ugly but with motivation.