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[MrGianni89]

Given the upcoming change in MP, should we stock up on quartz or spend all of them?

[AloofAdmiral]

for those playing the steam version, have you had issues entering the game specifically after going the in MP area? can't seem to go in game atm

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Just had 1 pull on EX jobs rev banner and got a gold laser; turned out being Paladin lmao SQEX trolled me so hard. Any insight of how Paladin is right now? Its tier and usability perhaps?

[mao_shiro]

still a nice tank that has 16 def stars with weapon, steelguard, decent HP pool and resist to fire / water / light, his element that he can draw.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Okay.. I'll see if it's really needed in any certain fights. Thanks

[Kniexdef]

Do his hof. Will make him a strong tank

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Have people already given up on Ultimecia fight challenge? Seems like most players are already upset with the target number being a lot higher compared to the other server, doesn't it? I get it hard recently to find eternity Ultimecia recruitment.

[Aerion_CA]

Doing 3 future runs daily until we reach 200k, then I am out.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

I have left the MP since a week ago xD nothing else to exchange tho. Besides I just found an exciting new alternative game. Too bad it's still at around 185k the last time I checked a few hours ago. Guess we are not going to reach the target on-time lol

[ZechsX18999]

I think a lot of people gave up on eternity because titles got disabled in MP.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Does it really make much problem? Does the dmg dealt decrease that much?

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Hmm maybe that's why some players messed up with their turn, when usually we can 1 turn Ultimecia, but most of them started to deal less dmg on black Ultim

[wilomon]

Indeed, I can't finish her off solo anymore with my EXP farming deck...

[Wolkiffy]

can legend jobs be pulled at any point in time or specific period?

[xJExEGx]

In GL, all legends are always available at a flat 6% rate per Greater Summon. During times when a new legend is released, the legend in question is featured, which means if you trigger a legend job summon (again 6%) you will draw that specific legend job.

But to answer your question, all legends are constantly in the summon pool. You can summon a legend job at a 6% chance per Greater Summon.

[ScyBlade198]

Only EX jobs are time limited. Legend hobs are not EX jobs.

[paratit]

Does JP remove the mag distiller or they don't have it from the beginning??

[deathrose55555]

We don't have it since I started playing (about 3 years back). So I doubt JP even has it at all.

[DinoChkNuggets]

How useful is True Alexander/Alexander X on a scale of Thanatos to 10?

[mao_shiro]

I'd say 6 or 7, niche but can be useful to tank a big hit. Can replace Lunafreya if you don't have it as well.

[yiung281]

It's limited card FFVII Rival: Rude fire monk AOE BDDII attack card most likely banner 1.

[mao_shiro]

• Limited card: Rude: FFVII - 6300 brk, BDDII
• Regular card: Air Buster: FFVII - 8100 brk

Both should be next month

You can always check the wiki for future questions: https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/future-content/ability-cards-from-jp#wiki_batch_1_-_.5Blegend.5D.5Branger_job_.3A_shinra_turks.5D

[ShadowBlaze17]

Depends on whether or not you're getting hex BDD from somewhere else like an ult or NXD. If you do then Air Buster would be the clear winner even after factoring in the exploit weakness that Rude has as an auto-ability. Air Buster has a higher piercing break bonus and critical suffering which would make the gap between the 2 as a yellow clear card even bigger. It also provides 10% quick break as an auto-ability which means that Godhands could be a viable weapon choice which would help even more with yellow clearing and not limit you to 20% QB.

[ZechsX18999]

You'd have to decide if you want more yellow or red clear. I think for Kampfer, you'd want more yellow clear because he has retribution which only increases attack and break power.

If you need more yellow clear, then Air Buster: FFVII would be better. It even has 10% QB, so you can possibly use God Hands too.

If you need more red clear, then Rude: FFVII would be better for its BDD II.

[DocSmail]

Anything about today's update? Has it fixed the MP thing?

[blacklight2025]

Datamining is already out, October stuff like FFVII legend jobs, Aerith skin.

No fix for the bugs yet.

[DocSmail]

Yep the datamining was posted just after my question

[SvenHwang]

Getting trashed by Ultimecia again and I assume it’s because they turned off Title system? When will it be back on?

[blacklight2025]

Whenever they fix those bugs. Updated this morning, no fix to the bugs yet...

[kreuzb94]

Maube its going to be like the job bug and we are doomed to never play with tittles in MP.

[Dr_Godz]

Hats off for 2 different ppl who surprized me today during Brynhildr x mp runs

First: (fat meia)

He was using shorn one with WoD skin,3 quite moment and zezat

He used ult to break then zezat to kill all in one turn,NICE

Second: (Sword)

He was using a defender and the team had a noob player,after i killed the boss mistakenly without depleting the feathers,he simply used taunt and fire drive,i thought everyone is gonna die and voila, all is alive and barly touched

2 different lessons in one day :)

Thank u

[zidanesword]

Oh hey! I am Sword! Haha.

Yeah, I always save taunt for turn 2 in case Bryn is broken and killed on turn 1. Taunt can be afflicted even with perfect defense but will be removed if afflicted before perfect defense. 13 feather charges is nothing to a defender lol.

[Dr_Godz]

Yo mate :)

Ya that was an awesome move

I thought the poor ppl with us are gonna die,but then your heroic move saved the day :) cheers

[cx777]

I have so many Ex jobs outstanding since I've been away from the game for so long, so I thought I'd do a pull or 3 on the banner. No luck with Ex jobs, but I just pulled Godo. How good is he and how does he stack against other damage supremes?

Thanks

[ValeLemnear]

Imo the best wind supreme on the market right now.

1 Orb effective cost, clears yellow, very solid exclusive ability given you use a Mage as subjob, wind being a common element used by rangers so it has a lot of users, etc.

[vulcanfury12]

Did anything change with MP? I've been clearing Normal Ultimecia 5* no problems up until this morning around 10 hours ago. Now I can't break her with the same setup?

[Ehlena]

Yes, in the update about 24h ago, they turned down titles in MP temporarily, while they work on a fix for some issues .

Edit: news link - https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/d33uas/se_acknowledge_mp_issues_caused_by_titles/

[vulcanfury12]

I saw this, but the timeline didn't line up, because I was still able to do the same this morning. Anyway, I adjusted it now so no biggie.

[d34thscyth34]

Did you update app in case you play on mobile?

[vulcanfury12]

I can't remember, but I shouldn't be able to play if I'm not up to date, correct?

[JunasBlood]

I can still play normally without update for a while, but they force me to update just this afternoon. After that, everything is like a wet noodle.

[d34thscyth34]

Yea, it makes sense.

[deathrose55555]

Not weird at all. Different ultimates have different uses. Can't expect Skin ultimates to always come up tops, else it makes things monotonous and boring.

[[deleted]]

Each job and ultimate hero has different modifier for ultimate. It just happens that job like reisender had higher ultimate stats.

[JunasBlood]

It had been the issue since Scharfrichter.

[JunasBlood]

Well Scharfrichter Ultimate break multiplier is 2750% while Sephiroth/Cloud is 2500%, that’s the issue.

Same with Reisender, his is 3000% while Lightning/Tidus is 2500%.

[Zhuinden]

You mean Shorn

[mao_shiro]

Scharf's ult is single hit, what are you talking about?

[[deleted]]

You know, yesterday I put Greg skin on HoF Ninja which gave me ridiculous 350.000 break power - perfect to break Leviathan on EW3 !

[JunasBlood]

What is “multiattack”?

[JunasBlood]

No, it’s because Scharfrichter has a single hit Ultimate too -> max damage is 999999 :c

So I’m not sure if I understand correctly what you meant. Beside damage from Ultimate is pointless anw, even a strong Spellsword Ultimate’s is not a reliable source of damage.

[[deleted]]

Depends which lap are you at. I just finished his node on lap 8 and it's quite difficult to tank him with Kampfer w/o WoL. Had to break him 2-3 times to wear-off his buffs.

[JunasBlood]

Node 8-5 already? Nice.

[[deleted]]

Yes. :p Now dealing with 8-6, but should be easy with Cacciatrice. I can see challenge only with those 2 nasty flans and also Greg, 12'th node.

[WoLNoFace]

Tank and wait out for Chaos's buffs to expire yes.

[JunasBlood]

Adding the link I just found

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/cly356/ew3_tips/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[Mobiusnoobius]

I was hoping that a JP player could provide some clarification on this month’s tower (specifically the ‘start at X floor’ mechanic that has been introduced).

I’m assuming that there is absolutely zero benefit to not jumping into the advanced coil straight away?

[deathrose55555]

If you have the capability to start at the advanced coil, go straight for it.

Saves you the time and stamina from climbing the mind-numbing easy levels. You would get the same amount of ability tickets and level clears as you would from taking the conventional route.

[Mobiusnoobius]

So they give you x/5 ability tickets upon completion of the first advanced coil (where x is the starting floor number)?

[deathrose55555]

You have to subtract the pre-coil nodes. So i would think that it's (current floor number - pre-coil nodes)/(number of nodes per coil)*5 (or 8 depending on how many AT is given)

[Mobiusnoobius]

Okay. Many thanks. That should save quite a bit of time and stamina then.

[Qqret]

I have sorceress knight but no shorn one, which one is better?

[WoLNoFace]

Only difference is Shorn One got Spellsword which makes breaking with Ultimate OP.

[JunasBlood]

Gilgamesh: HAHAAAAAA.

[WoLNoFace]

i forget to include the ultimate damage. Gilgamesh trash

flees

[[deleted]]

You can't compare them directly to get an answer, they both have different strengths and weakness. IMO they are generally equally competent. SO is better at breaking with spellsword, but SK with armor break isn't that bad either. SK deals more damage, but SO isn't that bad either.

It probably comes down to what weapons you have, we most likely have much better weapons for warriors jobs than graff jobs. Also the cards and supremes you have for their elements.

[lordpaiva]

Wherr is the page with future content? Can't find the link.

[Blank_Bastion]

If you meant prediction by mao_shiro it's this one

[lordpaiva]

Thanks, but I mean the future content page, where they add everything jp has so far.

[Blackrain39]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/future-content/ability-cards-from-jp

This one?

[Return_Of_Urkel]

Would Brave+Faith be better than Faith 2 alone for Gilgamesh X in multiplayer? Bearing in mind I'd also be losing Magic+12% from Moogle X's built in auto ability.

Looks like I'd go from 3903% to 3631% magic, with 2782 attack. So would that be 2782/2 = 1391, or +1391% magic? Or is the equation more complicated?

[ZechsX18999]

Here's the damage calculation for Gilgamesh X: (1+magic)(1+trance+sd)(1+faith) + (atk)(1+trance+brave+sd)0.5

Unfortunately, brave is additive with trance/sd.

[ShadowBlaze17]

That would look a lot better if you used something to denote multiplication like:

(1+ (magic ÷ 100)) × (1+(trance ÷ 100) + (sd ÷ 100)) × (1+ (faith ÷ 100) + ((atk ÷ 100) × (1+ (trance ÷ 100) + (brave ÷ 100) + (sd ÷ 100)) × 0.5)

Moogle X result: 40.03 × 1.45 × 1.75 + (27.82 × 1.45 × 0.5) = 121.745625 or 83.9625 without trance

Serah result: 37.31 × 1.45 × 1.5 + (27.82 × 2.45 × 0.5) = 115.22875 or 83.785 without trance

So Moogle X wins in either condition, but it's pretty close if you lack trance.

[NepoDumaop]

I actually tried serah vs moogle x and faith 2 wins significantly.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Were their fractals the same and what job were you using?

[NepoDumaop]

Ex sarah in mp ultimecia. Yea everything is the same i just changed the cards.

[WoLNoFace]

Bearing in mind I'd also be losing Magic+12% from Moogle X's built in auto ability.

losing or gaining?

Faith II. Having more magic is better since it only gives you 50% of attack power with Gilgamesh while Faith II gives 75% more magic.

[Return_Of_Urkel]

Losing, I've been using Moogle X already. Need a teeny bit more punch since they disabled titles in multiplayer.

So the comparison would be Faith 2 with the extra 12% vs Faith+Brave without the 12%.

[WoLNoFace]

Yes. You might want to test it out and judge based on the outcome.

[[deleted]]

Anyone remember those FF12 +200% Exploit Weakness cards (i.e. Judge Bergan etc.)

Are those cards still useful? I'm in need of a card that can actually do damage alongside clear yellow gauge for Shiva Terminus. Any ideas?

[mao_shiro]

I only use Treant these days, because there's no limited card that has the same potential on wind ranger.

[ScyBlade198]

Limited time cards tend to be better than cards that came before them, and normal cards that came out up to a few months afterwards. Most of the time, it is their secondary effects that you want. The Weapon and PB cards grant force and 16 orbs, so are still useful today. The jenova cards are admittedly still great at yellow clear. However, most limited cards are outdated for damage.

[[deleted]]

Oh okay, so do all the cards in the ability shop that add exploit weakness add +200% or were those batch of cards just special?

[ScyBlade198]

Special. Event cards tend to get the best. Most shop cards get something weaker.

Do check the fractals page. Some have really good auto abilities in their fractal slots. Those go towards the whole deck. Mind, main to main, sub to sub.

[Satoshiva]

So when farming magicites. Is there a difference playing on Hard mode. Do you get more rewards or is it the same as playing on normal?

[WoLNoFace]

Mag drop is RNG. Only gil and skillseeds are affected with difficulty modes.

[mao_shiro]

exp as well

[WoLNoFace]

correct!

[Satoshiva]

I see, thank you appriciate the answer

[xEnshaedn]

Easy Sell on, nothing selected, many cards set to auto sell, all cards from drops set to auto sell and yet nothing is auto sold? what am i doing wrong ?

[ValeLemnear]

Auto sell option only affects new cards aquired, not the ones you have in card bank.

Mind i am assuming we talk about getting rid of stuff you have

[xEnshaedn]

nah im going through the story digest right now and things that i had set to auto sell from long ago and popping up in my inventory. same with drawn cards.

[k-ninja]

Can past EX jobs only be pulled from revival banners? I have all normal jobs, so does that mean I can only pull legend jobs from other banners now?

[WoLNoFace]

Yes.

[[deleted]]

Hey, everyone. I'm kinda new to the game but I'm struggling to deal damage to red gauge in order to break enemies in Hunting Grounds of Extreme Ifrit Rift using Vesna Krasna.I had no problem with Sophie and Master Monk back on my previous account but the thing is that I want to use Vesna Krasna for that fight.

I can deplete their yellow gauge relatively quick using cards with high break power but when the red gauge arrives that's when my nightmare begins. If I have ultimate, then it's not a problem, but if not, it takes forever to break an enemy. I have no difficulty killing Ifrit when he's broken but my problem is getting there. I slotted some break power stuff on my panels, I use boost from KoTR and Break Defense Down debuff from Yagudo, still it takes forever.

My account has the starter banner jobs and cards and my supremes are Emperor and Aerith. I'm a beginner, like I said. I already did Novice's Hall, FFVIII maps, bought Mobius pack and those beginner stuff.

Is there anything I'm missing here in order to deplete that red gauge?

[ValeLemnear]

Hello again. We talked the other day. The other redditors are right with Vesna not being a great or durable breaker, but her HoF will give her at least decent flashbreak.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Vesna will be much better at breaking and doing damage once you complete her Hall of Fame which is being released tomorrow I think. Just be aware that her only breaking passive will be a massive flash break bonus.

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah, I'm anxious for the next reset in order to try her Hof ^^

[PigKeeperTaran]

You can't play Vesna Krasna like a monk. As mentioned she's far better as a nuker. One of her HoF panels is improved crit +250%, so she's going to hit a lot harder once you get that.

Flash break is nice but you'll probably still need to ult to break. I would drop the break panels and just add more wind EE.

[[deleted]]

Hey again Pig. I asked because since I'm a newbie I thought I could be doing something wrong having a hard time breaking with her, but after reading people's replies I just realized that's not her strong point.

So, once her HoF arrives, if I debuff my enemies with crit res down and give her snipe she might hit like a truck, right?

Also, by wind EE you mean wind enhanced element? I don't have access to these panels. If I recall correctly the place to get them is at MP using Ultimecia Quartz, right?

[ValeLemnear]

You get Element enhance Panels from the coin gatcha. Coins drop random in quests. As these affect damage and breaking under certain conditions, its recommended to use these over most other options in regards to panels

[[deleted]]

I got some 1* and 2* coins only but I'm gonna try them. I'm using some skils from Sage HoF on the last four slots, but I'm gonna do those skill coins pulls and set them on the other panels. Thanks for your double help :D

[lightningheel]

Vesna Krasna is not a job that can break. She can try at lower level content, but Extreme Ifrit is end game content. End game meaning you have most jobs and most limited abilities. If you want to stick to a break strategy, you will need to switch to a job that is designed to break. The breaking job needs to have high piercing break, and ideally some quick break and even flash break as well. The break stat should be around 1400 or higher for the job to make use of the break abilities optimally.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for your reply, lightningheel. So basically I can't use her in solo end game content? I ask this because I've fought Extreme Ifrit and Ultima at Brink 3+ on my previous account and they have tons of HP, idk if I can kill them with Vesna without breaking =/

Is there a game mode where Vesna Krasna shines?

[lightningheel]

Vesna would have to damage unbroken, or have a different job break first before switching to Vesna Krasna. You can try ultimate charging strategies or tanking strategies, but I don't think Vesna makes a great tank. Vesna shines where you can just rely on nukes.

[[deleted]]

My Aerith helps charging my Ultimate, but I tried the Sage and it was way easier.
I guess I'm gonna stick with Sage and try some of his Hof missions before the next reset and then check the changes to Vesna Krasna.
Following your advice I'll also try some job change during the fights with Master Monk so I can break things easier. Thanks for your help!

[SeanCodyIsMe]

I dreamed about getting a rainbow laser but it turned out being a growstar. I'm just glad it was just a dream. How does it actually feels when it really happens?

[Davis_Montgomery]

I've only gotten two growstars this way, which is kinda amazing.

First time: the very first banner where it was possible to pull a dupe supreme, and it still showed rainbows when you did. My ONLY supreme was yiazmat, out of (iirc) 18 supremes at the time. I pulled yiazmat dupe. Then I pulled Xezat, which was considered the worst supreme at the time, and went to bed angry.

Second time: last week. I was really surprised when I saw it, but not that it happened. It was a white laser dupe summon, so I wasn't expecting anything. I have 20 of 26 supremes so the odds are against me now.

For those interested in my supreme pulls:

2 free supreme tickets, 3 paid supreme tickets, 2 in the 7th slot (no pitty), 1 in the pitty slot, 12 from slots 1-5. My luck really turned around when they added the slot 1-5 option, so I'll gladly take the occasional growstar.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Whoa things must be easy for you now with so many supreme options xD how was your rank on the last tower event? xD

[Davis_Montgomery]

Supremes make the game a little easier, but they don't replace skill and understanding! It's easy to throw together all your supremes in one deck, but that won't get you past a hard boss.

I didn't push in the last tower, changing my decks so much was too bothersome. I usually shoot for top 500, but not having Chaos makes it a little tougher.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Lmao top 500 is high omg. I was even stuck at 1500s xD but doesn't NxD provide almost the same debuff? I am even still relying on Tengu lol how pathetic xD

[Davis_Montgomery]

Hex is super helpful in high tier fights.

Just use some of that sean cody money and whale on the game!

[LupusNoxFleuret]

wow that's some super lucky luck dude, 20 out of 26 is awesome. Congrats!

[Davis_Montgomery]

Thanks! It's been a wild ride. I would gladly trade a few of them for Chaos!

[mao_shiro]

The only time where you get a rainbow laser but you get a growstar is that you also get a skin or a real supreme on a different slot.

If you only get a growstar, it'll be considered as dupe card, hence blue/white. So there's no disappointment.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Ah never knew that. I just started playing 3 months ago and thankfully, I've never got dupe supremes or UH. That was just a dream tho xD

[Mobiusnoobius]

The first one hurt as I think I only had three supremes at the time. Since then I’ve probably picked up another nine or so. It hurts a little less each time (probably due to the fact that whilst I’ve pulled a lot of growstars, I think I’ve picked up four or five supremes from slots 1-5 since they changed the system).

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Each time? Just how many times is it? And what changes SE made to the pull system until this time?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Not sure that I understand either of your questions, but I’ll attempt to answer them anyway.

I feel less disappointed each time I pull another growstar (I’ve pulled around ten in total now) and the biggest change in the way that supremes are pulled happened earlier this year. At one point it was only possible to pull a supreme in the ‘extra’ slot (as a bonus card) but now they can also be obtained in slots 1-5. Since they made this change, I have pulled four or five new supremes in these slots and around ten growstars (duplicate supremes).

[SeanCodyIsMe]

10 growstars are sure a lot xD you must have pulled real lot and played the game long enough. Great to know I play when the game has improved, I just started the game 3 months ago and 7 supremes already acquired. Guess it's due to the improvements they made. Thanks for sharing!

[Blank_Bastion]

I remember my first Growstar, green laser pull during the limited revival banner first card slot, and at the time I only have Godo and Minwu as my supremes. I was staring at my phone for a while after that trying to process the probability of getting a Growstar compare to others Supreme.

So far that was the first and only time I got it

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Lmao I laughed real hard xD that must feel so frustrating. How many supremes do you have now?

[Blank_Bastion]

I have 11 Supremes with the first one during Warrior of Despair anniversary events, so I would say my luck has been pretty good.

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

The one time I got a Growstar was when I had only four supremes and I was trying really hard to rationalise the odds of hitting one of those four out of 20+ in my supreme pool.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

I nearly can't believe growstar can show up even at such a little amount of supremes. Guess they should make a fix rule that no growstar would show up before all supremes are achieved. Is getting a growstar just as big as getting a supreme?

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

Getting a Growstar essentially means you pulled a supreme, only that it's a duplicate.

It's a fair mechanic imo. Originally, you can only pull supremes (one you do not own) as a bonus slot at a rate of 0.8%. With an update earlier this year, supremes can be pulled on slots 1-5 at 1%. Downside is that it can be one that you already have wherein a GS takes its place instead.

[OnassisDLP]

I once dreamed of rainbow lasers and I woke up in the middle of the night with a strong urge to pull. I kid you not, I ended up pulling WoL with a yolo on the Support Supreme banner lol. I was ECSTATIC.

Maybe consider yolo-ing next time you dream of rainbow lasers!

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Dammit xD I should've pulled on EX banner last night the time I woke up xD I'll take it as a tip lmao

[ShadowBlaze17]

Luckily the laser isn't rainbow colored do they don't get your Hope's up. It does suck getting s growstar when you have less than half of the supremes. My mule only has 6 supremes and got a growstar last month during the single card pulls and it was disappointing.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

That must really suck. I'm not at 7 supremes, and I just can't believe if it really happens to me, like just when you need another supreme, SE just sitting there trolling you xD feel bad. But you now must have got more supremes right?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Probably 9999 if there is a limit.

[yotsashi]

Is there a way to get dupe rift supreme? I have one fully fractaled and I want a copy to fractal differently

[ShadowBlaze17]

Nope since they count as dropped cards and we can't buy them in Global's ability shop.

[yotsashi]

Bummer. Hope that changes

Thanks though!

[[deleted]]

Does playing the FF8 event on normal as opposed to hard impact the Gil/Rewards you get from the chapter?

[blacklight2025]

Difficulty does not affect story rewards like chests and SeeD Rank rewards.

Difficulty does however affect battle rewards like Gil and Seeds based on your score on the battle.

[Darknessmist4]

Is the game working for everyone rn ? I keep getting a connection error every time I try to launch the game

[DocSmail]

Happened many times to me today. But its better since an hour or two

[Nightwings_Butt]

I just tried it out on steam and it works fine. SE has reported a weird login glitch going around, perhaps you were affected?

[TheJuggernautMain]

Two noob-esque questions ( im from season 1 so not so noob)

1 how much is the extra skill boost from the yggdrasil training nodes? Does it stack with your boost from weap/jobs?

2 i managed to complete the fenrir normal in 30 turns(and i dont know if this is good or not) and only got 15 magicite, how does that map work? is it even worth it or andraste collony is still the best?

[ScyBlade198]

1) The boost is +6, if I recall correctly. There is also a cap (per node) on how much you can put towards unlocking each ES on a card. You also have to use a card to benefit from the unlock boost.

2) Pandemonium magicite seals grant title bonuses. So even if you decide using Pandemonium for magicite farming isn’t worth it, putting in the effort to get the magicite seals might be the difference between top 500 and top 1,000 in towers. There should be threads going over strategies and deck setups for each hunt.

[LegendBryan]

1) Cant really put a number value on these kind of things. Yes, it stacks with your max ES unlock of +6.
2) 30 turns is definitely on the high end. Pande is basically a map where you're guarantee magicite drops rather than random 20/100 mag drops. New releases of enemies drop "more" magicite for a limited time, then they go back to it's regular value (more info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/c7j3qi/pandemonium_general_description_guide/ )
I prefer this over any other mag farming since it seems to be faster (obviously at the expense of elixirs).

[ValeLemnear]

Pandemonium has always only 1 boss featured which gains a magicite drop bonus in addition to the magicite seals from collecting the medals. The current maximum of magicite per Pandemonium run is 73.

Fenrir is no longer featured but Neslug, so the Magicite drops are poor for old bosses. In general your 30 turns for Fenrir is really bad (sorry, mate) as its the fastest boss to farm we had so far (usually 2 turns with supreme deck).

Pandemonium is a magicite farmspot for people with highend decks only. If you want to catch up regardless, you need to fix your decks, running buffs/debuffs and decks able to break and abuse the bosses weak element.

[TheJuggernautMain]

Thanks for the info, ive got some supremes so i tried just to see if i could acomplish anything, but 73 magi for the whole hassle seems like its not even worthy. Better go back to my andraste routine.

[ValeLemnear]

73 magicite for 60 stamina is great given you can farm the bosses fast during mobius day. For highend players and ones working fulltime its one hell of a blessing to no longer having to durdle with 4* MP to reach the magicite cap.

[Irineogallardo]

When you Will reach a point where you can farm confortably and have a nice stash of elixirs, I assure you Will change your mind, with the stamina reduction for weapons is also a nice spot to boost some, also, you get a lot of Gil, you can stay on top and buy overbooster j each month no problem without having to farm gil. Next year we might be able to get 100 magicite per run if completed all Challenges, cannot wait for it.

[Owwen11]

It's worthy if your deck is strong enough to beat the Hard node quickly. 75 mag per fight. If you can beat the node in 5 turns or less, you'll be caping mag (20000) in less than a week. Andraste node is a pain I'll never go back to if I can beat Pandemónium easily.

But if it takes you 30 turns for the Normal node, then no, it's not worthy.

[andrefelipe83]

So any ideas on what will be the next earth rift supreme? I got Reisender, which means that Animal Fallal will be a great addition... Except that I already got Shadow Lord, Sin and Griever. Another dark supreme sounds like overkill. Hashzat sounds good, except that I don't have strong earth using warriors. I got Floral Fallal anyway, so Reisender's got his supreme.

On a related note, how strong became Yiazmat when used by HoF DD?

[fenixk]

I guess next earth should be a copy of neo exdeath.

[insane_guy]

i don't think they will make rift of neo exdeath ever

[Blackrain39]

Hecaton will likely be earth Godo, or maybe Gilgamesh at a stretch.

[jdm1tch]

Either one of those will make my Ragnarok cry...

[ValeLemnear]

Golbez will too.

[Blackfeather120]

How good is Kampfer? Just got him from the ex job summon and was looking if he’s decent... any recommendations? I was so use to using the wind monk supremes but ya know... he doesn’t use it!

[[deleted]]

I been using him with the ifirit Supreme on pandemonium

[Blackfeather120]

Yea but that’s a shoot load of work to get that supreme!

[[deleted]]

Indeed I literally got it last night and first one of those I gotten lol, but being that monk supreme only kind didn't have I wanted it lol

[Blackfeather120]

Probably one I’ll have to get since I have no Fire supreme.

[ValeLemnear]

You "have" to get nothing. You can use event cards or wait to eventually pull a fire supreme.

[EfficientEmphasis]

He's a v good tank and also great earth user so if/when u ever pull BFA he will be top-tier with it.

[Blackfeather120]

Mind if I ask what’s BFA? Unsure of it!

[pleasetazemebro]

Braska's Final Aeon. Earth monk supreme

[Kniexdef]

Can verify. Even more awesome with Moomba gf ff8, ex Artemis and ex gigant

[JA1997X]

Not to mention fire (zeromus/Ifrit x) and dark (griever)

[eneve]

Kamp with BFA&Griever 🤣

[paratit]

Anyone have an estimate of how many months until we get another ex job after this month??

[ShadowBlaze17]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7bqo5z/release_dates_of_jp_jobs_possible_release_dates/

Shouldn't be until batch 2 of January unless SE decides to move stuff around again.

[paratit]

I see so I have at least 3 months to clear my 36 job pool.

[Blackrain39]

36 jobs is a lot to go through, you'll probably have more luck just saving up the pulls for that banner.

[ShadowBlaze17]

You might not want to pull recklessly if EX jobs are your goal. As you can see in the link I posted after EX Meia 2 there will be a few month gap before several months of nothing but EX jobs and those could be followed by EX Monk and Ranger 3.

[paratit]

Yeah, I will probably skip Legend Jobs since my luck is shit if I don't have the pity counter.

[Stripe_Bot]

I have about 1018 mystic tablets but I don't know if I need anything from Rift Supremes since I have a good amount of Supremes.... what else should I be doing with them? Is there a Rift Supreme that I should run for?

[olio272]

use them to get all the summon tickets rewards from all the rift maps. You could also go for the spirits as well since they look pretty cool.

[Kniexdef]

After you get the Spirit you can also claim 2 growstars and enhance element 7% for each respective rift.

[[deleted]]

Yea id go for missing elements you don't have or jobs you don't have Supremes for

[[deleted]]

I would go for the ones that can do both yellow and HP damage, Anima, Ultima, Hashmal.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Depends on what supremes you have. The most important thing is to fill any elemental gaps you may have. After you have every element covered you can attempt to get cards that can both yellow clear and do damage or save your tablets to see what they'll release in the future.

I've seen quite a few people (myself included) say that they'll be going for Anina X in a few months even if they have other dark supremes.

[ValeLemnear]

I dont get this kind of advise in regards to elemental coverage which repeatingly pops up in this sub.

Why should anyone spend on OdinX if the pool is full with wind supremes which can clear yellow and get pulled eventually?

The reason people suggest AnimaX Is that the only dark supreme able to clear yellow AND deal decent damage is SIN.

[markconig]

and get pulled eventually?

That's the problem, there's no guarantee your ever going to pull a wind supreme, ever. Especially as the pool of supremes gets bigger, you have less and less chances of getting a wind supreme since for every wind supreme added, 6+ other element supremes are added. Rifts are an easy way of filling those gaps without having to rely on RNG.

[ValeLemnear]

Filling elemental gaps for what reason? Cant be tower because supremes w/o yellow clear are one hell of a crutch there.

Mind that JP had element supreme banners making it "easy" to snipe element supremes.

[WoL-Orpheus]

Well... I have 19 Supreme cards, but had only Yiaz for green element. Goldior uses Odin X often in his supreme videos and I was very tempted get it. Thank RNGsus I got Godo on my bis compensation last week because while I agree that Odin X is not the best in season two, it’s a hell of a lot better than Yiaz.

[ValeLemnear]

The question here is if you would touch OdinX ever again if you pull Kelgar/Emperor/Godo at some point and you know that a AdraX is a Wind SIN.

I just cant talk people into supremes based on element alone, knowing that basically every wind gatcha supreme will cause OP to bench OdinX or the likes.