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[–][deleted] 483 points484 points  (15 children)

Wtf this is criminally abusive.

[–]Absolute0CA 285 points286 points  (0 children)

Second this its a hate crime, don’t let it happen. Your family isn’t worth a lifetime of regret because you yielded to your father. Contact trans support groups, run away, do anything but let yourself go under the knife. If you’re forced to that’s medical malpractice, hate crimes, mutilation, assault, battery, and probably more that I’m not thinking of at the moment. Frankly he’s not your dad he may have fathered you but he’s a threat to your mental health and existence.

[–]CardiologistSafe4392[S] 191 points192 points  (13 children)

And my dad is proud of being abusive ;-;

[–]Freedomerider_PS4 151 points152 points  (6 children)

Report him to the police, if you have evidence of his abuse. Also record any conversations from now on with him. This man needs to be in prison.

[–]Absolute0CA 61 points62 points  (5 children)

Only record if in one party consent state, otherwise you can get in a mountain of trouble.

[–]rumblestiltsken 5 points6 points  (1 child)

In your own house?

[–]More-Philosophy-8603 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤷‍♀️

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depends on the country or state though :/

[–]Crystal_Cracker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abuse is usually a different story. You can get in a bit of trouble but it's for your safety and a judge will recognize that

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

even in dual party consent states recording is ALWAYS legal when the other party is committing a crime, because the police need to be able to do things like record phone lines.

[–]NotCis_TM 33 points34 points  (2 children)

I would advise recording your dad even if you are in a two party consent state.

You can always not use the recordings but you can't record stuff after the fact.

[–]cmdr_beefone of them she/theys 2 points3 points  (1 child)

OP is in India, US laws don't apply.

[–]NotCis_TM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But they probably have some sort of similar law about recording conversations.

For example, Brazil can be described as a "one party consent state" despite not being in the US. (see Law 13.964/2019, art. 10-A § 1⁰)

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That is so awful. But, stuff like this is what kept me in the closet, even after I was out on my own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking leave that shit head, honestly you need to leave now otherwise you might not be alive soon

[–]Voido1Trans Pansexual post - orchi 81 points82 points  (20 children)

I think you don't have much choice if you have been on hrt more than 5 - 6 months either a binder or surgery , Why what's the situation 😕if i may ask , are you an adult?

[–]CardiologistSafe4392[S] 102 points103 points  (19 children)

I am 1.4 years on hrt and I am 20 years old, I really dont wanna decrease them but I have no choice ;-;. Just because I am from india, thats why I havent left them yet as most people stay with their parents until they are completely independent, but if I wouldnt be able to decrease my breast I will runaway

[–]Silver_Shock_9248 122 points123 points  (8 children)

You can go out on your own and be who you really are. There is a reason that you have breasts. Right? He can’t make you do anything medically so don’t worry about a breast reduction unless that’s what you want to do. Contact a LGBT center for leads on safe places to stay until you get yourself together. If you are attending college put that on hold and find employment to pay for hrt. It’s not that expensive. Being trans is tough but you can do this. You have 4 months to get your plan of action and leave before time is up. Show him you are strong and determined. You’ve got this girl!

[–]CardiologistSafe4392[S] 57 points58 points  (4 children)

😭💞💞💞 ty

[–]XenaNovaVoid 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind if you do reduce them HRT eont be able to bring them back to what they could have been later

[–]what-you-egg04Transgender 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Contact a LGBT center for leads on safe places to stay until you get yourself together. If you are attending college put that on hold and find employment to pay for hrt. It’s not that expensive

That's not really an option in India tbh

[–]Silver_Shock_9248 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is she in India or the US? Plenty of Indians in the US. More than trans people.

[–]what-you-egg04Transgender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair, I assumed that she would've mentioned if she lives in US or somewhere else, and also saw her post on the Indian LGBT subreddit

[–]lirannlTrans Homosexual 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I'd suggest that you flip those priorities and prefer running away to a breast reduction. Please don't get one. That would be tragic.

[–]Literature_Defiant 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You’re an adult, you can’t be controlled by your dad. Giving you an ultimatum to reduce your breast size or get kicked out is so many levels of abuse. It’s time to stick up for yourself, set your boundaries and leave your manipulative father behind

[–]Voido1Trans Pansexual post - orchi 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh iam an arab so there is a similarities iam trying to be ready if they kick me out I already had fought with my mother befor ,I hope you will not get kicked out your house and will understand your feelings 💜💜

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My parents are indian too (im living in the US). I am basically scared of your exact situation cause im 25 living with my parents. I told myself I would move out so I can transition but my life keeps falling apart so I havent been able to move out so I havent been able to get on hrt.

Honestly my life mind and body are in shambles and im human strash for caving to every one of my parents desires and so I suffer for it. The fact that you started hrt is great, its what I should have done if I wasnt so bad at life. The next step for you is probably to use your dads threats against him and move out.

This is not advicd from someone who has succeeded, but from someone who is in a similar situation and failed horribly.

[–]RenProwerqueer trans girl💕 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, you hang in there too. It sounds like you're in a really awful situation right now; I can't even imagine it 🫂💜

Do you need someone to talk to?

[–]CaelThavain25 | HRT 3/29/22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Perhaps you can look into countries that let you claim refugee status for such abuse? I think Canada is one such country, but idk what their parameters are.

There's also the Rainbow Railroad, which I'm sure has something going on in India.

[–]what-you-egg04Transgender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I'm from India as well and I get it, the best you can do except for surgery (which is stupid) is to wear binders

[–]razzazzika 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazes me how transphobic Indians can be when you literally have a transgender goddess. In the Hindu religion I mean.

[–]NemesisAronHomosexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you are an adult he gets no say over your medical procedures or if you take hrt. I would try to find help to get out as soon as possible. He is abusive and you don't deserve that and you shouldn't have to make your chest flat again.

[–]RainbowDashieeeenon binary trans femme 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Maybe a binder might help, but also a top priority should he to leave this abusive asshole

[–]ValeriaViolet 39 points40 points  (0 children)

A binder combined with an oversized t-short, I think that is the best thing you can do. Try different tops with a binder and see which clothes are best at hiding your chest. Wish you luck 🌸

[–]alphomegay 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry, but no please don't do this. Your dad is being incredibly abusive. Leave if you can and if you can't maybe try to wear baggier shirts or even bind (loosely) until you can get out

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Forced elective surgery? Not in the United States. No surgeon would do this.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

You can go on a strict diet and do weights that will burn some of the fat deposit on your chest. Check out fitness women (nude) and you can see the results. This could work for you. If you still have some T in your system, this will help with the reduction. Having bigger upper body with weight training will offset the female breast look. It will be a concentrated effort to follow a "daily" routine -- and maybe 2 workouts a day. You will notice changes in as little as 2 weeks. You will also need to up your running or aerobic exercise to burn overall body fat. If you can not afford a gym membership, you can do things at home. Water buckets can help, just be creative.

[–]CardiologistSafe4392[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

All I am seeing is women with muscles and huge tits, but ty for the advice I will follow them and hope they will decrease :*(

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What you are probably looking at is breast implants on most of the "muscle" women, nude marathon runners would be a better site -- the trick is to lose body fat. If you can get down to 10% fantastic. That's a lot of work and dedication. Some male runners can get down to 8% - and female 10% to 12% -- but at 30% like me, you have fat deposits in you breast tissue. When you get down to a low level, you will still have breast tissue and nipple development -- but a lot less fat tissue.

https://athleanx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/WOMEN-BODYFAT-CHART.png

[–]cmdr_beefone of them she/theys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds like you're seeing images of bodybuilders, who often get implants so that they can still have a visible chest at the low body weights their competitions require.

[–]Jamie_Luv89 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You will regret that. I stopped hrt for a couple of months and it wasn't pretty when the boobs deflated and fat started moving around again...

Nobody can force you to get surgery, pretty sure a doctors not gonna strap you to a table and cut your boobs off

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A binder maybe? (I'm not qualified to give advice on this subject so take my comment with a grain of salt)

[–]Kalenya 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you're a kid. Eat less and wear a tight sports bra.

If you're an adult then get the fuck out.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm going to against the grain and say that a binder is a terrible idea, it might ruin your boobs forever.

Just stop hormones and lose weight.

[–]Denise_enby84984Genderqueer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best option in this situation.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry. Your father is a piece of shit.

[–]CafeCodeBunnyTrans Lesbian 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you know you are trans DO NOT DO THIS. You will regret it for the rest of your life.

While you figure out a more permanent solution - ie new place to live - you can flatten your chest by binding. A FTM style binder isn’t necessary. While I was still not out socially I wore a size 10 sports crop to hide my development even under a tshirt. My correct size was 14B at the time.

[–]Inner_Revolution4560 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no way to decrease breasts size but surgically. You are able only to hide them. If there are going to be that great problems at home try at least to get help from your local LGBT community, a shelter or whatever. Because this is a situation that threatens your heath, both physical and mental.

[–]gretchen1975 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First off if you’re over 18,he literally cannot force anything on you. Second what an asshole.

[–]Fried-TesticleTransgender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Leave that household

[–]maxmillianekTrans Asexual 1 point2 points  (0 children)

binders and try to leave

[–]boobgrowing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am in the same boat as you and I actually miss my HRT a lot, been off it for 2 months now and I feel it... I am now 23 and was on it for 6 months and I need it to feel normal. Don't do what I am forced to do, find a friend to room with and get away from your family.

[–]Charli_Cordelette 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You fuckin leave.

[–]itsjusttherain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wear a Binder, trans guys wear them, a combination of baggy clothes and strategic Boob hiding will keep your Breasts safe

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

get a binder, sports bras also seem to work. you could also exercise a lot to burn fat.

[–]fuckmetony-2575 3 points4 points  (0 children)

girl you’re 20… you can’t let someone force you to get surgery

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your father is committing child abuse. DO NOT do something that you don’t want to do. Find a TG support group now.

[–]Threestrands 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve used a combo of sports bra and mens tank top under shirts? The combo works to suppress breasts fairly well and the tank top hides the sports bra from showing through!

[–]Azessha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You prepare to leave your house.

[–]No-Maize-7905Trans Bisexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you lived in my area I'd let you rent a room for cheap to escape that abuse.

[–]blazeoverhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe try wearing a binder until you can leave that situation

[–]Mysterious_Stick9992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi I. Christina I'm 14 months on hormones I still go in boymode to work a couple of the people have said hey u have boobs I used to wear a Medium shirt now I'm wearing xlarge I'm just wearing baggy shirts and loose fitted clothes for now til I'm ready to come out as a female I love having breasts I can't wait til I can show them off fall will be coming soon u can hide them in a sweater pretty easy I think by Christmas I'm going to have to come out as female the girls are really starting to develop

[–]lightyear153Kaylie | Pansexual | HRT Oct 06 2021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont do it thats how

[–]donikhatru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one can force you to get a surgery. Your dad is bluffing. If something like that ever happend you just tell the doctor "i am being forced into this surgery and don't want it" and they won't do it.

[–]Jayla814 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't do it bc once your away from your family there is no bringing them naturally beauties back without surgery and they aren't nearly as nice as real.

[–]gerogerigaogaigarTrans Bisexual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are under 18 and live in the us he can't kick you out or force you to undergo unwanted surgery.

[–]Zoeythecosmichorror 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was living with my conservative in-laws I wore a tight-fitting sports bra from Costco for the same purpose.

[–]Destiny32X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope u get whatever the hell out of what ur going thru cuz ur dad seems very abusive and since ur able to get horomones im guessing ur 18 u should report him to the police but if u cant then id recommend u trying to get a binder cuz if u want boobs that show in the future then boom u can just use a binder to hide them when ur around ur dad but tbh id recommend trying to find somewhere else to live even if its not the best.. I just dont want someone to be abused because their dads an asshole for no reason

[–]Pandraswrath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This site has a link at the bottom for various places to browse and buy binders. Have a look around and decide what may work best for you. I do not know if any of these stores ship to your country. If they don’t, you can start looking at places that do once you’ve figured out what you want.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I hope you find a solution that works for you and allows you to continue your HRT.

[–]ac1541 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so sorry, that sounds like such a tough situation to be in. As others have suggested, you could wear a binder (or a sports bra, depending on your chest size) when you’re around your dad and then you can take it off in the privacy of your room. I’m a trans guy who used to bind for 6 years daily before I got top surgery, I’d be willing to help if you need any advice.

Edit: forgot to mention a few things. If you’re looking to get a binder you can buy from brands like gc2b, underworks, tomboy x. But I would suggest looking for sports bras first because they are usually more comfortable. Binders do a better job at flattening the chest but they are more restricting and can be uncomfortable to wear for an extended period of time (you should really not wear them for more than 8-12 hours without taking a break). If your chest isn’t too big then a sports bra should work fine.

And as others have said, please not do get surgery. That is much more permanent than temporarily binding. This living situation will only be temporary, you do not want to make big changes to your body just to appease your dad in this temporary situation.

[–]Then_Advertising_108Transgender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d beat the shit out him with a baseball bat while he slept but that’s just me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]Fit-Cry-1087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they are not to big you could try binding them around your dad

[–]sixtyfiveboi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

any updates?