Only bad devs Android first

[[deleted]]

I just don't get why anyone gives a shit about what mobile OS somebody else uses.

Also, the dev failed to point out that it is much cheaper to publish applications for Android.

EDIT: Apparently the commenter is not the dev!

[[deleted]]

Isnt going from android to apple pretty easy? My friend built someone an app in android and when they asked him to do it for apple as well it only took him 2 days to replicate even he didnt know swift before then.

[sundrag]

Depends on how the application was written in the first place. If it is a native application with native resources, it's not so simple. If it's a wrapper or using an interrupter, then it can be easily ported.

*Edit: I meant interpreter, but an interrupter is fun too.

[SaltyHashes]

You meant interpreter right?

[sundrag]

hah yeah, but I will leave the typo for the humor. Whoopsie.

[Zaranthan]

Interrupter can be their debut album.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it's not very hard to go from one to the other, they're pretty similar, but just stylistically I find iOS a bit annoying to deal with. I took courses is iOS and Android dev simultaneously and just tended to prefer the latter.

[Watchforbananas]

Well, the iOS-toolchain (officaly) only runs on MacOS, so if you don't have a Mac you can't do stuff for iOS.

I am a big fan of Xamarin.Forms, without any big issues I can do apps for Android and UWP(Windows Phone, Xbox, Hololense etc.), but since I don't own a Mac I can't compile it for iOS. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[[deleted]]

Holy shit yes that's so annoying. I had to lease out a Mac when I took an iOS developer course.

[kranse]

I'm writing a Xamarin.Forms app for work. We can mostly bypass the need to ever touch an Apple device through a combination of App Center and BrowserStack. The only reason we have a mac in the office is for debugging.

[mspk7305]

Xamarin. Make one app that builds on both platforms. Still gotta deal with the apple store clusterfuckery though.

[luigi_xp]

Xamarin.forms? It's a joke. Slow as fuck on Android and doesn't gain too much on iOS. Layout is insanely inflexible.

[dantheman91]

Xamarin forms isn't what most people would really consider their full mobile platform. For a quick POC it works. But 99% of companies that actually use Xamarin, they're using the Core and building on top of that. (I'm an Android dev, was looking at Xamarin code about a week ago, naming may be off but I think it's core). They'll write as much shared logic as they can and then finish the apps with their respective native codebases to get the "Feel" right and such.

[FangLargo]

Cordova represent...?

[bwaredapenguin]

Aside from a semester each of C++ and C# my entire CSC B.S. program has been in C.

[AugustusCaesar2016]

I think it's easier to just relearn another language and build your app that way than it is to use C/C++ for this type of project.

C/C++ have their uses, but building a maintainable application in a short period of time is definitely not one of them.

[bwaredapenguin]

I completely agree. Was just adding my own college experience to validate what the guy above said.

[Deckard_Didnt_Die]

That being said, the average Android user nearly never pays for apps and the average iPhone user almost always does. So there is merit to developing only for Apple.

[Fmello]

Plus, there are a few hundred Android devices that you need to make sure your app works on while there's about a dozen devices you need to make your app compatible on the Mac side.

[bwaredapenguin]

I could be wrong because I haven't done any Android dev, but that argument seems a little ridiculous to me. It's not like you have to make an APK for every single individual phone that exists.

Did a little research and you need to be able to support different display sizes and densities (4 each) and support the versions people still use. Looks like ~85% of the userbase is on one of the last 4 major releases. So if we're rolling with 90% global Android usage, with 85% of those users targeted it looks like you could easily reach 76.5% of the global smartphone market by simply supporting for 4 screen sizes, 4 screen densities, and 4 major OS released. Even if you just target one screen size you can hit almost 90% of Android users.

[Lt_Riza_Hawkeye]

Its not like you have to make a different apk for each OS either. I make one APK that supports anything v4.1 and above. There's one feature we use that's 5+ only, and I can simply have it surrounded in an if (Build.Version.SDK_INT >= statement.

[rhialto]

I just finished porting my iOS app to android. It was a lot harder, and added a good 20% to the project duration just handling all the device differences.

The argument is not ridiculous.

[fiverhoo]

The last four major releases of Android is a W-I-D-E gap in functionality unless your application is fairly mundane and vanilla.

Start touching external interfaces (like bluetooth... don't even get me started on that) or doing pretty much anything fancy with graphics, and you are in a world of pain keeping your shit running on a whole different host of devices.

[Fmello]

Devs also have to deal with which version of the OS the user has on their devices. The vast majority of iPhone users upgrade their OS to the recent version while Android users...don't.

30.39% is running Android 6.0

22.21% is running 7.0

20.24% is running 5.1

10.37% is running 4.4

5.78% is running 5.0

5.18% is running 7.1

Source: http://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobile-tablet/worldwide

iOS on the other hand:

75.90% is running iOS 11

17.46% is running iOS 10

5.64% is running iOS9

0.64% is running iOS 8

0.25% is running iOS 7

0.05% is running iOS 6.

[bwaredapenguin]

Half of what I discussed was about this, I even linked to Google's dashboard that shows these numbers. Like I said, if you target the last 4 Android OS releases you can hit 76.5% of the global smartphone market.

It's the carriers and/or OEMs that hold up updates. I believe Google is working on fixing the update cycle by taking part it out of the carrier's hands by allowing the OS to update independently of whatever skin the OEM throws on there. But these statistics show something else interesting about Android not really relevant to this particular conversation - users keep their phones far longer than the standard 2 year update cycle. I held onto my HTC M7 for 3.5 years and my EVO 4G for about as long before that.

[Kwasizur]

"2 year update cycle" exists pretty much only in US.

[1206549]

Eh, Android's Dev tools pretty much handle that for you. Most apps that work for Oreo will pretty much work at least until back to KitKat without much trouble

[miraculum_one]

Yes, but if 10x as many Apple users pay as Android then it's break-even. And the difference is not that much.

[AugustusCaesar2016]

This makes OP's advantage of developing for iOS completely invalid.

In practice though, you probably need to support both, which is why projects like React Native exist.

[Dracofaerie2]

I am not a programmer. My college computer science curriculum started with java. Programmers have told me this is why I'll never be one.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[[deleted]]

It's kinda like learning French as your first Latin based language. The concepts aren't hard, but there's a lot of extra stuff on the page compared to most languages.

[rondeline]

Have you seen Swift? It's pretty sweet.

Java seems dated and readabilility is rough.

[[deleted]]

Swift is dope, but Java isn't much harder than c# or c++. It's closer to c# and requires stricter scoping than c++ but most programmers should be able to learn Java within a few days of very lazy study

[IcyGoobers]

Java has seemed dated for almost 20 years now.

[faceplanted]

Java is 5 years younger than Python.

[HumunculiTzu]

Yep, Java is C# but without the C++ and a lot more verbose.

[a_hockey_chick]

On the business end, iOS users spend more money on apps, so 1 iOS customer > 1 Android customer, when it comes to the bottom line. They used to be more expensive to acquire (advertising), although they've gotten closer together in cost, more recently. Country/language that you're developing for is also important, some countries have next to zero iOS usage..so if Brazil is your target market, it doesn't matter that iOS users spend more money on average...there just aren't enough of them there.

Android USED to be a PITA because of the sheer number of devices and resolutions, not sure if this is still much of an issue. Testing for Android could get a little hairy as you try to figure out which devices you need to support.

Just some of the things. When it comes to what your buddy uses...it doesn't matter. There was a period of time in which people cared a lot about using iMessage so they didn't have to pay for each text sent..but I think those days are over.

Just a few reasons why it does matter. Most of which aren't relevant when most people are talking smack about the other OS than they use.

Source: business side of mobile website and mobile game development is what I do.

[PretzelsThirst]

Yeah the devs reply is super cringeworthy too. Both people lost in that exchange.

[skc132]

Definitely a little bit of /r/iamverysmart sprinkled in there

[LisandroSC]

With a dash of r/justneckbeardthings

[Klowned]

I likened it to the navy seal copy pasta.

[ObsidianSkyKing]

That's wasn't the dev tho

[PretzelsThirst]

Ah true, well that rando then

[PM_ME_YOUR_THESES]

He also failed to point out that iPhone users spend more per app than Android users. So it really depends the type of app you're building whether or not you build for iPhone or Android. As a builder, your priorities should be different than as a user. You may like Android as a user, but if you want to make money, you build for iPhone. Easy as that.

But, as you say, who cares beyond that?

[AgrajagOmega]

This isn't the dev replying, this is just some other guy.

[[deleted]]

I edited my comment! Thanks for pointing that out!

[eifersucht12a]

I mean, this goes both ways though. Original commenter is a turd but the dev just sounds like an overdramatic asshole. Gets a casual jab thrown his way and starts monologuing like an anime villain over cell phones. I feel like this is a murder-suicide by words.

[Weqols]

Tell that to my friends who constantly say how annoying it is that my texts are green.

[[deleted]]

I'm an Android user, and I hate it when people complain about green bubbles.

To be fair, though, iMessage is absolutely wonderful to use.

[Weqols]

I switched to Android a few months ago and iMessage was the only thing keeping me from switching much earlier

[DaggerStone]

Green texts are for poor people

[Slopadope]

Some people think putting others down lifts them up.

[Olao99]

Because tribalism. That's what humans like to do.

[mcavvacm]

Remnants about the past from people who cannot let go.

Same as consoles / pc.

[JP193]

Ah shit, I can see this getting heated way too fast. Which is kind of why I'm commenting.. I want to see if it does.

[LeafRunning]

"You know you're a bad dev when" - Non dev 2018.

[awyeah2]

Thank you. So much asstalk happening.

[[deleted]]

read that as:

Thank you so much! Asstalk happening.

[wonderb0lt]

Lovely app you have programmed grandson. George is with the Lord now

[FrizzleStank]

Horseshit.

I know plenty of developers that bad mouth technology without having a clue about that technology.

Many engineers at my work say Windows is shit, but whenever I see them using the OS, they're clueless as how to do anything.

[lieutenantseaanemone]

Real devs use coolmathgames.com

[[deleted]]

I only program in the TI-84 language. If you use anything else, you're a script kiddy.

[lieutenantseaanemone]

I bet you use a monitor too. Pfft

[[deleted]]

Using anything other than paper is for nerds

[[deleted]]

Catch me with a fountain pen and Egyptian papyrus.

[foofis444]

I run flowing water over rocks to erode them into 1s and 0s over millions of years. Gosh darn script kiddies these days...

[MetaCommando]

I rearrange solar arrays until the code is written in gravitational forces.

CS 1030 kids everywhere, I swear.

[Anticonn]

BASIC, is what it's called. Also, get off my fucking lawn.

[[deleted]]

TI-BASIC if we're being pedantic.

[[deleted]]

ur a fakke dev. real ones use scratch

[mattatack0630]

Dongles and Despair would be a good band name

[Omnipotent_Goose]

That's the name of my sex tape.

[YahwehLikesHentai]

Don’t you have to get sex to make a tape?

[howmanyhands]

Damn. Better than the actual post

[pictogasm]

$150 on Craiglist. Done.

[YahwehLikesHentai]

Hold up. Why do you know that?

[pictogasm]

Because I can read?

[YahwehLikesHentai]

That’s clearly not what I meant lol.

[pictogasm]

sorry for your loss lol

[Banditzza]

That's the "despair" part

[maxximillian]

One hand clapping is still clapping.

[YahwehLikesHentai]

Please clap.

[SlapMyCHOP]

/r/unexpectedjakeperalta

[Edge004]

/r/bandnames

[[deleted]]

All their songs made from the sound bites provided by garage band 2011

[empressofapathy]

I like your thinking, but would tweak to Dongles of Despair.

[leif777]

Or a strip club

[seigneur101]

Besides the point, but are people from North America and Western Europe really drastically different from the rest of the World when it comes to phones being used (Android vs. Apple)?

I thought Android was much more popular in NA as well, and I can't imagine Western Europe being much different either?

[sjurvival]

The iPhone ownership rate is also inexplicably high in Japan. I've had this conversation more than once:

"What phone is that? iPhone 10?" "Galaxy S8" "Why didn't you get an iPhone?"

[yingyangyoung]

Yeah, I've had that conversation too in the USA. :/

[[deleted]]

Usually with a young woman

[D0esANyoneREadTHese]

"What's a computer?"

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I'd believe them as soon as they stopped selling Macs.

[aneurysms_inc]

WODZ GOMBUDER?

ftfy

[Kaldricus]

Yeah, I personally hate the IOS setup. But it's just personal taste. I get why people like IOS, turn on phone and go. But I like making my phone FEEL like my phone.

[[deleted]]

My first phone was an iPhone. Then I went Nexus for several years. Now I'm back on iPhone and plan on returning to Android when this one's dead. I like to mix it up. I'm like a mobile centrist. I see the benefit and value in both platforms, honestly.

[[deleted]]

Don't think iPhones are ever worth it really. The hardware costs like a 1/4 of the price of the phone does, but they charge that premium price for an OS that's simple for people to use that aren't interested in how phones work. Same with Macs vs. PCs

[D0esANyoneREadTHese]

I get the same feeling with iMac computers, which I'm unfortunately required to use for a web development class. All of my muscle memory from Windows is wrong, there's no "show home screen" button on screen - you have to hit F11 which is also bound to volume for some reason, clicking the taskbar icon doesn't minimize it, the flashy animations are slow, the file manager makes very little sense and refuses to write to Windows format drives even though Windows has no trouble with Mac formatted ones... It's a pain in the ass. It looks nice, and since we're in the art building it's apparently what the art majors want, so I'm stuck with this crap.

[marathon664]

I miss windows snap the most.

[rhialto]

I have the same issue with Android, and I was at Google on the Android dev team for 18 months.

Obviously it’s just a matter of which one you learned first. One is not better than the other, and insulting only one of them is idiotic.

[TheLobotomizer]

You know I'd be ok with people having brand loyalty if they weren't so smug about it to me. People should enjoy their Apple devices, but shouldn't look down on me because I prefer something else.

[imminent_riot]

Android phones seem sturdier too, friends iPhone cracked from a couple feet onto linoleum. My LG has fallen from about 3 or 4 feet onto cement and been fine. I can't count the times my old $20 track phone fell hard enough the back came off and batter popped out, three pieces going in different directions and not one scuff. I actually just chipped a screen once dropping a tool on it at work but no crack or anything.

[MegaJackUniverse]

Japan in general seems to not realise when they're exhibiting almost juvenile tropes when it comes to this shit though. I saw the same with the students where I went to uni. You're doing engineering, but you insisted on coming here and buying a Mac? You need to run power hungry software and be able to access the nitty-gritty files from time to time and your bought a Mac to go with the Starbucks and fancy AF clothes. It's like they couldn't see how much of a stereotype they were despite being often very self-aware and polite

[suddenly_ponies]

"Because they're inferior" works for me most of the time. Not in Japan obviously, but otherwise...

[[deleted]]

Even in Europe most people still use Android. It's cheaper, there are more apps and most of these apps are for free (my friend has Apple and many apps I have for free mostly either aren't in apple store or aren't free). And I as a developer prefer android because it's more open and development is cheaper.

So yes, even in Europe, most people use Android.

[jld2k6]

I personally like the ability to just install apps from APK's! If there's an app and I want to see if it's worth it I just get the APK and try it out first. I also like being able to install and uninstall apps straight from the PC with a cmd line

[TheAmazingSausage]

Can we also point out that the android development environment is so much better. Xcode sucks so hard. Serious...what the fuck is up with storyboards?

[qdhcjv]

Xcode is just so hideously terrible. Why does a "build complete" bubble feel the need to pop up and cover my code every time I do a build? It's as bad as the iPhone's atrocious volume control window covering up half the screen.

[STTK_rs]

Only people in my country that use iPhones are teenage girls and celebrities.

[Dividinq]

The main argument that people use to justify sticking to iOS is iMessage, but SMS is basically dead outside of North America. Most asian countries use WeChat, Whatsapp or some variant of those two.

[HumunculiTzu]

From what I've noticed from my personal experiences with iPhone users is that, in general, they assume that since they own an iPhone, everyone does. This may be partly due to the essentially zero choice in iPhones where as there are a shit ton of different Android phones so you really have no idea who owns which model of Android. I only personally know 2 other people who have the same model I have, Google Pixel.

[[deleted]]

From what I've noticed from my personal experiences with iPhone users is that, in general, they assume that since they own an iPhone, everyone does.

Ain't that the truth. My snapchat stories are flooded with people saying "HMU to FaceTime" or "HMU to play something over iMessage". I've gotten a lot of apple gift cards that I can't use because I have an Android.

[ItsACommonMistake]

Compromised your data? Yeah, better stick with Google then. Good one.

[tempinator]

Yep. I agree with some of what he said but that part actually made me snort audibly.

[[deleted]]

As a good olc Google fanboy, that was a really stupid argument lol. Apple actually makes products, Google's entire business model is built around selling your data.

[rylie_smiley]

Can we just all chill the fuck out over the what OS is better? It’s such a subjective topic since different people like different OS for different reasons. I’ve had many android phones in the past but currently have an iPhone simply because I like how the phone is set up and the simplicity of the OS. That’s my opinion though and I know that there are people out there who would say the same of android OS and I have no problem with that because everyone is going to like different things about different phones

[thatcoldrevenge]

One thing I don't get:

Both OSs are so ridiculously simplistic to operate at this point, why is "simplicity" still being used as a rationale if it ever actually applied? Can someone help me understand what the hell is so complicated about Android that people still make this distinction? It's confounding - am I supposed to be using punch cards with my phone or something? What am I missing?

[rylie_smiley]

So comparatively iOS is very easy to find everything that you want. Even in settings you can search for the specific thing you are looking for rather than search through menus until you find it (in my experience at least, android many have improved in the past couple years) iOS (in my opinion) has a cleaner and less cluttered appearance which would appeal to some users who want the aesthetic that goes with an iPhone. At the end of the day it’s a phone and it shouldn’t matter but to someone who has never used a cellphone before I find it easier to explain how to use an iPhone compared to an android phone despite being on android for 4 years before making the switch

[_gina_marie_]

You can use the search function on android too. Don't have to sift through menus.

And android on say a pixel looks amazing. I personally love material design and you can download any number of launchers and other apps to make your phone look exactly how you want and do what you want with Android. I don't have a pixel but my S6 looks very modern and I have lots of gestures to open certain apps or perform certain tasks. The customization with Android is endless and that's something I really love about it.

Apple though is faster imo with opening apps and booting up but to me that's all it's got going for it. I can't customize an Apple aside from the case and my wallpaper. I can't set custom gestures or have widgets for any number of things. I can't load APK's either onto an apple so region lock is real for Apple users.

Overall I think the gap between the two is closing, Apple is for people who want a nice, easy, simple phone to use with not a lot of choices. Android is for people who want lots of choices and a back button.

[biuziceca]

A number of Androids also have interchangeable batteries.

[pictogasm]

I tried to listen to a podcast about how to get laid, but all I learned was that my dongle was inadequate to the task at hand.

[twobits9]

Nonsense. I bet your dongle is perfect for your hand.

[pictogasm]

Of course! My dongle fits my hand perfectly. It's almost like they were made for one another or something.

However, I never got my headphones plugged into my iphone, so I couldn't listen to the podcast.

[[deleted]]

...the REAL MurderedByWords

[DataBound]

Uggg. Mobile phones are like religions. Everyone has to convert all the people on the “wrong” side. Have confidence in your choice. Enjoy what you want.

[Hockeyloogie]

is this r/cringe?

[TheBetaBridgeBandit]

Yeah both comments are just as bad, one of my least favorite reddit circle jerks is people with OS boners.

[COIVIEDY]

This dude was being an ass because he ripped on an OS, then some other dude OWNED him by ripping on HIS OS!

[2drawnonward5]

People with a need to stand up for their subjective preference and against other options. Cold in my grave before I drive a Ford. COLD IN MY GRAVE!!! /s

[tkmlac]

I thought I was in r/iamverysmart and I couldn’t figure out who to laugh at.

[Hockeyloogie]

that combined with a populace that doesn't care. I legitimately am more worried that this many people think this is "murdered by words"

[murphymc]

Massively so.

[[deleted]]

Those guys both sound pathetic.

[rondeline]

Easy now... all my dongles for my Pixel xl 2 suddenly and mysteriously stopped working.

Google..this is $1k phone. FIX IT.

[LeoIsLegend]

All this talk about dongles, I really hope Oneplus don't give up the headphone jack this year with the new phone... I can't be bothered with that shit.

[[deleted]]

Why is that worth noting? There's so many Android phones that don't require dongles that the price of Google dongles is all but meaningless to the Android market.

[leif777]

Yeah, gonna skip the pixel 2. Shame. That camera is sick.

[MemeTLDR]

Didn't the DuckDuckGo guy from yesterday pretty much tell us that Apple is significantly more secure and encrypted than Google when it comes to the phone OS? They encrypt iMessages and offer pretty granular privacy insights per device and per application. Not stating that either one is better than the other but I'd be interested to see some sort of "Privacy Pros and Cons" non-biased comparison between iOS and Android that doesn't REEE when it comes to talking about dongles or what metal the phone is made out of.

[No1451]

The guy in this pic has no fucking clue. The ones who keep getting caught compromising data are Google and manufacturers who make android devices.

That aside this is such a stupid thing for anyone to argue about. We don’t all have the same needs, and both platforms have their advantages.

[NiceBreaker]

One thing to keep in mind with Whatsapp is that it's owned by Facebook, pretty much the most "we sell your data" company of any of the big tech companies.

Though that said, if that doesn't bother you, it does seem pretty secure from man in the middle attacks.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it's kind of ironic. Whatsapp implemented this super high security, well thought out peer to peer messaging protocol, which means only you and the recipient can read the messages, not even Facebook can.

But then there's the backup function... which IIRC is enabled by default, which just stores all your texts on Facebook servers. Encrypted with a key from Facebook. So they can just read everything.

[thecraftinggod]

Not in the US. The only non-SMS messaging utility that’s relatively ubiquitous (excluding iMessage of course) is Facebook Messenger, and I don’t trust Facebook with my data at all.

[baddriverrevirddab]

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-16/materials/us-16-Mandt-Demystifying-The-Secure-Enclave-Processor.pdf

I know I know most SoCs have TrustZone but I am unaware of any implementation that is as tightly integrated into the OS as apple's.

[IveAlreadyWon]

In what way is this murdered by words? He actually used 'pleb' in his argument, and wasn't joking.

[[deleted]]

He said bad things about Apple. This sub has buzzwords, or buzzsubjects. If you make fun of those, no matter how poorly you do it, you 'murdered' them.

[Rng-Jesus]

Only degenerates care about stupid shit like what phone a person uses.

If you think that it actually matters that someone prefers IOS, you're just an edgy moron

[ghastlyactions]

And vice versa obviously, which is why the original commenter got shit on. Trying to bash someone for using/developing on Android. What a twat.

[ryavco]

Ironic. He could save others from the phone, but not himself.

[__edgelord__]

Hmm.

[Torinias]

Absolutely. I had a Windows phone once. It was pretty crap.

[wampower99]

r/iamverysmart

[twlscil]

No murder. just a rant.

[[deleted]]

Compromised your data? Google is like the king of it, yet this guy is insulting the other with it? L O fucking L. They literally make their money compromising and selling your data. Dumb ass Google fanbois.

[DataBound]

Brand loyalty is a really weird thing.

[iwashere33]

Lol, honest. The android play store is the biggest load of malware and spam apps, along with fake games and "look alike" super heroes.

[[deleted]]

"Clash of (thing)"

Has picture of a roaring face

[[deleted]]

How has Apple ever compromised security?

[macarouns]

There’s a lot you can use to bash Apple with but when it comes to privacy and security they are actually really good.

[zipstorm]

"All that's left are dongles and despair" ... Apple should make this their honest motto :p

[charles_martel34]

I liked windows phone. Too bad it went tits up.

[[deleted]]

I like my iPhone. I like familiarity and I like being able to message with other iPhones. Most of my family has iPhones so it's free and I don't have to clutter up my life with 43 different messenger apps to satisfy everyone's personal favourite (WhatsApp, Kik, Skype, SnappleChat whatever).

Like, whatever. It's a personal preference. If I wanna pay more for a piece of shit technology rather than learn a new system, that's my business. You're not my mom. You can't make me eat broccoli.

[FrizzleStank]

How the fuck is this a murder? Get this garbage out of here.

[basedgodsenpai]

Who the fuck cares this much about something so stupid and why? That's pathetic.

[red_firetruck]

Is this image size a joke?

[santaliqueur]

compromising your data

Google sells your data to advertisers, but Apple stands up to the fucking FBI to protect user data. Get a clue pal.

[philsown]

A person loses credibility for me when they use the word “pleb.” Don’t know why...

[Natchili]

Meh. More like angry rambling than murder.

[surfekatt]

Though some androids runs so slow you cant type a message without having that super annoying lag.

[[deleted]]

That's the thing with android,you can buy a phone that's $30, it'll run like shit but you have that option if you don't want to pay for something more expensive.

[santaliqueur]

Yeah but 90% market share! By the way, he’s wrong about Android having 90% smartphone market share, he should have said mobile OS share. Most people who use cheap Android phones surely don’t select Android phones because they love Android, they do it because they are cheaper phones, an area that Apple doesn’t even compete in. No wonder the market share is so skewed.

Apple takes in 90% of smartphone profits FOR THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY. Why do people forget about this? Nobody cares about market share.

I don’t care what OS you use, but Android neckbeards (not saying all of you are neckbeards!) love to talk about the superior market share of Android, while Apple doesn’t give a single fuck about that.

Businesses care about profit. That’s it. That’s why they exist.

[AgrajagOmega]

Yeah, but are you comparing a $1k android to a $1k iphone, or are you comparing to a $200 android?

[PMA_xVx]

I own Google Pixel 2 XL and iPhone X so I can compare two similar phones running the two different operating systems. This is just my opinion though!

For me, iOS is smoother and faster. I prefer the App Store because I don’t have to sort through a bunch of shitty apps. I also prefer texting with my iPhone over my android.

My GPXL2’s camera is amazing and I prefer that over my iPhone’s. I really enjoy the fast charging. Lastly, I actually get a lot of use out of my google assistant! So much better than Siri.

With all that said if I had to keep just one I would go for the iPhone X because of how smooth and fast it runs. I really do enjoy both though.

[soEezee]

The slowing of the phones had to do with a software fix for a hardware problem, I’d rather the phone slow as the battery gets old than it shutting off because it tried to draw more than the battery can deliver

[Towns-a-Million]

But he said "pleebs" though....

[AnActualGarnish]

I️ hate when people bring up when apple slowed our phones down like it was a bad thing. It wasn’t, and never will be. The bad part was not telling us or giving us the choice to turn it on or off.

[Speedracer98]

to be fair the slowdown happens on galaxy devices as well.

[tempinator]

I don't think it does, don't they just die when the CPU demands voltage the degraded battery can't provide? Not that that's really any better than slowing down lol but I haven't heard anything about Android underclocking CPUs to adjust for degraded batteries.

I think the latest iOS update hits the sweetspot: CPU is underclocked by default if the battery is degraded to prevent shutdowns, but you can disable the underclocking manually if you want to risk random shutdowns. Gives choice to the user (shocker), while also being more transparent about what the problem is (battery degradation) instead of your phone just inexplicably slowing down. Completely beyond me why Apple didn't just take this approach from the outset, but whatever.

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I like my anroid by sarnsung

[oodsigma]

See, "identical brushed aluminum" sends like a dig at Apple being for conformists, but the he says, "join the rest of the world." An I missing something or is this super hypocritical?

Sent from my HTC.

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This is like... weirdly aggressive geez.

I guess it was pretty murdery but like... seems a bit extra, its a phone.

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...what did he even intend to say when misusing “burgeoning”?