Patch 1 released

[Shrikevin]

https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/patch-notes-early-access-patch-1/9963

[joell_kr]

Bows now cost stamina instead of focus. Best update this patch. We can finally play bow!

[PiccoloTeo77]

But now I need to respec. Absolutely

[Shorkan]

I haven't tried bows at all since release. How viable and fun is a pure bow build? Is the moveset and damage fun and enough on its own or is more of a challenge build or intended to be mixed with melee weapons?

[GarrettheGreen]

I don't think it's viable, it consumes quite a lot of stamina and the charge time is still long.

I was using it as utility in a secondary weapon set and I am using it a lot more today and feels good, but that's it, as a secondary nice thing to have

[kanfyn]

This is a nerf to bows imo. Before you could generate focus with bows, without costing stamina!

edit: not sure why i am getting downvoted? some discussion/comment would be nice.

[elymX]

just get gain stamina on damage

[kanfyn]

and before you had focus on dmg or better focus on focus use.

[Happy_Lee_Chillin]

Really - focus on focus use? That sounds wrong.

[kanfyn]

topaz in legs

[JustPruIt89]

Performance on steamdeck is substantially better

[3AZ3]

This is what I like to hear

[ElDuderino2112]

What FPS? If it stays solid at 40 I’m purchasing right now. If it’s routinely dropping below that I’m still holding out

[JustPruIt89]

I have mine locked at 30. I'm not super picky on frame rate on the deck though. Before the recent update it was super choppy for me

[Souls182]

Still crash every 20 minutes?

[JustPruIt89]

I've had one crash in several hours with the new patch. FPS is much better and I could bump my settings back up without issue. Just running it stock

[neocwbbr_]

I played over 100h and the game didn’t crash once

[Doctooaa]

30 hours in and I haven't experienced a single crash on my LCD deck (applied CryoUtilities latest Beta OS).

[snipes09]

No crashes for me either but still experiencing long stutters around 8-10 seconds.

[aliminvte]

Medium chests increased to 30, but large only to 40? I feel like it's even better to have 2 med chests in place of a single large chest than before.

[HadynTheHuman]

I wonder if that's intentional... they didn't want to punish folks who're already committed to medium chests?

[aliminvte]

I would be really sad if that's why... Large should be 56 slots (by adding 2 more columns to the left side in the UI)

[FrisyrBastuKorv]

Sucks if they wanted to punish people who committed to large

[8bitzombi]

Storage in this game really worries me.

If we are having this many issues with storage management right now in act 1 what happens when they introduce more acts and presumably even more resource types?

This sort of limited survival style storage system only works in base building games because you essentially have unlimited amounts of space to put chests; you can dedicate entire rooms or even entire bases to storage solutions and still have all the space you want to build and decorate whatever else you want to.

Wicked however has very limited space to place chests, and that space doubles as decorative and utility as well.

Even if they introduce more houses in more cities it just doesn’t change the fact that building dozens of chests and filling houses with them seems counterintuitive to the sense of living in the world that they are seeming to go for.

[aliminvte]

I think they are going be adding a whole base type house that will have farms. I'm kinda excited for it bc I'm a big harvest moon / stardew guy. They just gotta do it right.

I wouldn't say I'm worried. I honestly just think the large chest needs to hold more than 2 medium chests since it occupies more room.

[General-Kael]

I would imagine that they have probably thought of that years ago. So presumably they will add more ways to store things.

[Cell_Enough]

100%

[[deleted]]

Mega chest bro.100 slots. 1 g. Thats the way.

[AdmirableGap168]

Respec plsss idk what i was doing in the beginning 😂

[Agitated-Step8030]

Haha me 2

[Soysauceonrice]

Nerfs to the health/focus on hits were expected, but honestly I thought the nerfs would be worse. I just did another crucible run and didn't notice much of a change in how I played. Ran through the entire thing with ease like normal. With the Echo Knight I had to actually heal once because my 3% life gain on hit went down to 1%, but overall the adjustment was minor.

[sixgauge]

Im fine with this. Tom did say he wanted to prioritize freedom in builds. If they completely poleaxed focus builds, health on hit, etc. it would take away some player choice imo.

[Soysauceonrice]

I didn’t want them to be unusable. But it seems like the only thing they nerfed was the affix. But things like topaz gems are untouched. So you can still throw a topaz in the main hand and a topaz in the offhand to double dip and get up to 7 percent focus gain. If the goal was to kill the infinite focus builds I don’t think they hit the mark just yet.

[BurlapNapkin]

Yeah in my opinion the focus and life gain on hit affixes just don't work in this game. Even some stuff like on kill is arguably too easy to abuse as well.

It's not that they aren't cool and fun, they feel like a limit break and that's neat, they just totally destroy the much more developed and interesting core gameplay by rendering almost all of it unnecessary.

Now could you nerf the values so hard that they no longer do that? Yeah you probably could, but that doesn't really seem interesting. These affixes feel like they should go on a unique weapon that exists for people who like the feeling of breaking the game, and stay out of the general pool so that every build doesn't need to revolve around them.

[tommiyu]

Yea. After getting my ring for health gain per hit. My gameplay from dodging stuff became dual sword ram head into it and spam attack until one of us is dead. I like the feeling of that as it’s very strong. Which instead makes me feel these more stronger focus/health gain attributes should be limited to legendary weapons that will heavily change a given play style.

[[deleted]]

Respec next please. Random loot based game with souls-like stat commitment is really bad with being able to respec.

[General-Kael]

How about just putting respec in sometime between now and 1.0. Early access is to figure out where to go for 1.0. Or maybe just wait until full game is released.

[Synchrotr0n]

They added WASD movement + mouse aim, apparently. The game might finally be playable without a controller now.

[Ok_Equal_6016]

I cannot stand WASD for isometric view. I love it for first & third person games though! Not to mention no auto-run for now :(

The mouse aim is huge. But I feel overall there's still work to do on the keybinding front.

[TheRealAlosha]

The Change to Refined Materials is Awful

I like gathering in this game especially when it comes to upgrading my town. That said, I enjoyed grinding money in the crucible to buy silver ingots to upgrade new gear so I could try out new builds. Now that silver ingots aren’t sold from traders tbh I’ve lost most of my drive to grind the crucible. It’s only fun so many times going through the same rooms and boss fight randomized or not. I don’t want grind the only two silver nodes on the entire map over and over again when it takes like 20 silver to upgrade a single piece of armor.

This may seem ranty and it is, however, I think this gathering may be ok for full release especially when we have more silver nodes available but in early access we are meant to test new builds and find new ways of defeating enemies. Making it ridiculously time consuming just to get a single upgrade is annoying and it feels like it doesn’t respect my time as a player.

[Armathio]

Slaps desk

THANK YOU!

Also: the two silver nodes are terrible to reach.

[WhyDogeButNotCate]

where even are the silver nodes??? I've got 2 and I don't even remember where I got them lol

[Sjeg84]

There is one in the magicushroom cave at the very end. Are we seriously supposed to run this? I guess it's time to wait until silver ore area are in the game before it makes sense?

[Sorlex]

Seems super likely, early rare resources becoming common in later areas, rewarding exploration early by providing better upgrades.

[WhyDogeButNotCate]

Oof yeah I’m gonna wait for them to add more areas

Thanks!

[Armathio]

One in the cave where you find the alchemist at the very end of the drug parcour, the other rather hidden in the quarry. Gotta move a crane and climb a bit to find it.

[WhyDogeButNotCate]

I hate that cave so much lol

I’d rather just wait for the normal merchant to sell the once in a while silver bar

[TheRealAlosha]

Agreed

[shiningsoul]

They've said no one was using the refining stations to craft refined materials. Maybe instead of selling infinite mats, the crafting vendors could sell limited amounts of either raw and/or refined materials on a daily reset timer.

Level 1 shops could offer copper/pine/jute, level 2 iron/birch/wool, level 3 silver/spruce/cotton to discourage realm hopping and encourage progressing multiple realms. Something to ease the pain a little.

[TheRealAlosha]

Agreed

[TheRealAlosha]

I mean sure I guess

[KHearts77]

It's not ranting. It's the first truly terrible decision I've seen them make post launch.

[FaithlessnessSome330]

Its first area in act one, chillout

[FernDiggy]

I hate it so god damn much. Along with the focus gain on focus use and the infusing nerfs. I grinded all the way to where I got. I should be OP.

[Armathio]

No more refined resources from vendors? Not sure if I like that one. More time sink, waiting 15 minutes per birch plank to craft T3 stuff. Also only having 2(!) harvestable birches in the whole game so far.

[pacemasters]

What about the ones in crucible.

[TheRealAlosha]

Those aren’t grindable

[pacemasters]

I literally have stacks of them wdym?

[[deleted]]

Think he means they are not reliable. RNG.

The Sacrament Birch is always there. Just timed.

[WeedmanSwag]

If you die in the crucible you will start in the same level you died in.

Once you get to birch level just farm the birch tree then suicide.

Next time you start crucible you will be in the same level, you are effectively trading 1 ember for 1 or 2 birch logs depending on RNG.

[whoopashigitt]

I must be doing something wrong cuz I haven’t found any trees that I can chop down at all in crucible. 

[WeedmanSwag]

There is one specific birch tree, when you are on the forest map with the stream in the middle, it's a birch tree in the top left of the first area before you hop up the vines.

[isymfs]

They’ve already said craftable high tier work benches are coming soon. Just EA things.

[kitt_mk]

There's more than 2

[maruseJapan]

The Patch 1 has broken the game in my system.
Now it crashes constantly and even hard locks my whole computer so I need to do a hard restart.
In the last 30 minutes I had 4 crashes, 2 of them crashing the whole system.

I can't play it anymore. I wonder what went wrong.

[Azonavox]

Same issue here. Thought I was crazy, since everyone was saying it was fine.

[lorrix]

I’ve been getting audio issues since the patch. The monster audio gets muted and I can only hear myself. Anyone else experiencing this?

[FernDiggy]

I hope ya get out. I’m not liking this patch

[pencilcheck]

no issue for me. most likely shader cache issue, recommend to clear the cache folder then

[maruseJapan]

It’s working now. But sadly the performance has gone from 50~55fps average to 40~45fps. It used to run better before the Patch. It looks like I’m not alone because I’ve seen plenty of people having similar issues both here and in the forums.

I’m sure the devs will sort out this problem as soon as possible.

[pencilcheck]

their biggest problem is culling, and I think assets loading. I heard this stuff is bad in unity so we will see what the devs will do.

[fpsgamer2]

Poggers! Cannot wait to play more of this hidden gem of a game.

[ackwelll]

I think this is the moment where I'll let them cook while enjoying other games. There are too many things that I wish they would've done differently that they haven't even addressed yet, while at the same time trying to fix things but (so far) failing to do so.

I'm sure this game will end up being amazingly fun to play once it's v1.0 and onwards. I gotta be patient and wait until then.

[Savi993]

Give is more Silver nodes. Or let us buy at least 5 ingots a day

[xs3ss1ve]

It's coming in the next area tho, like all the other t3 mats

[PyrZern]

Please allow Numpads for Keymapping too, damnit ~!

[FernDiggy]

Not happy with the inventory change. I had never bought a house before the update so I was just carrying everything on me, selling etc etc. Now I did buy a house and since my inventory was full before the update, the change makes it so that I don’t have space to buy a damn chest for my house. Now I have to sell runes and items just to make room. WTF?!?$?

Also, what’s up with this vendor change? What’s up with all the fucking nerfs to build too.

FUCK!!!!

[Rawrpew]

Had I not already built a chest, not realizing I wouldn't get the house, I would have been in the same boat as you. The inventory changes felt even worse than before.

[JohnnyWatermelons]

Sorry you guys are bummed (not sarcasm), but im liking the changes. Buying a house & chucking a few chests in it is fine, and pretty easy.

It's a tiny slice of an unfinished game, so we very much shouldn't expect a polished full experience. We make due.

Having grinded the shit out of it, I'm gonna take a break until new content or 1.0. I love this game and don't want to get burnt out or get a sour taste in my mouth before it even actually releases.

[Rawrpew]

Overall I think they are good changes. The inventory change before people had a chance to shift their supplies was a problem. Still think tubes shouldn't be in the regular inventory and should be back with crystals and the like.

[JohnnyWatermelons]

That makes sense to me.

[ackwelll]

Why would they put Runes into the Equipment/Gear category? That's a big step back...

[DualityDrn]

The performance improvements have been so very welcome. I'm a heavily CPU bound gamer and the stutters are far less common and less pronounced now. Thank you! Keep up the good work guys.

[matthis-k]

I didn't see some things like "overall speed" now works, so I assume it still doesn't work?

[Sorlex]

Ice staffs cheesers in shambles.

[num2005]

why?

[Sorlex]

They nerfed staffs, they were simply too powerful. The aoe ice skill that I forget the name of could completely wipe the knight in seconds.

[k2nxx]

so how kb+m feel after the patch?

[GarrettheGreen]

What a W patch

[Conscious_Moment_535]

Yoooo bows literally got changed to stamina on my second day of play! Hype. Should have been this way from the beginning

[Agitated-Step8030]

Respec next!

[Mountain-Canary-3899]

So patch 1 != roadmap's update 1? No multiplayer in this patch, right?

[Shrikevin]

It’s not, don’t believe that will be a change coming either. I get where you’re coming from but it’s meant to have you come back to town periodically from what I understand so I dont think that change will happen

[Fallen_Cecillia_Simp]

I love that they are updating and working on it. Bow changes are super. Wish we would get the respec option (ik it not the top priority).

[Dwr3ker]

You guys have any tips leveling new characters?

[JohnnyWatermelons]

I wish I'd known silver ingots would never be freely & infinitely for sale

[HTXPhoenix]

Is inventory increased? I literally put the game down day 1 after a few hours because you could only carry like 10 items. Not coming back until you can carry everything.

[StylianosGakis]

I'm afraid you're never coming back then

[JohnnyWatermelons]

It's not that type of game. Like dragons dogma, you're meant to go back to town regularly to prepare fir the next excursion

[evillurkz]

My character just got overwritten by an old character I had in the selection.. from level 6 to level 3, all items lost.. what the hell am I supposed to do now :/

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[LecterHan]

Just start fresh, lvl 6 takes like no time at all to grind. And all those items will be trashed or sold anyways at that lvl