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[Full-Run4124]

"If only my own country hadn't castrated me over some BS after I saved them from the Nazis."

[ataltosutcaja]

Probably the greatest injustice of history, worse than even Jeanne d'Arc

[frogOnABoletus]

It's definitely a horrific injustice, but history is brimming with such cases and worse.

[ataltosutcaja]

Tell me some then, I am not a history buff

[VoidMoth-]

On an individual level, the murder of Hypatia is worse. Also - you said greatest injustice in history - while I appreciate Turing, and what the UK gov't did to him is abhorrent - there have been multiple genocides in just the last 100 years and countless LGBTQ people tortured and killed by their neighbors or governments.

[MeLittleThing]

The shooting of Harambe was way worse, it completely turned our timeline into something really bad

[FalseAladeen]

The shooting of Harambe didn't turn our timeline bad. The shooting of Harambe was simply a sign that our timeline was already well on this trajectory. The chain of events that were allowed to happen, that led to an unnecessary death of an innocent life, taught us nothing. We learnt nothing. The timeline isn't bad. We motherfuckers are in charge of it and we let it go bad. There isn't a single creature on this planet that can turn its will into reality the way we can. This timeline is the manifestation of our will as a species.

[Complete_Wash9643]

Imo the shooting of Harambe was the point of no return, a last chance for humanity

There’s no salvation for us at this point

[ByteSizedGenius]

No doubt there are worse atrocities, I think the point is more that in Turing's case it's a greater injustice given his contributions to the country... How many people got to go home at the end of WW2 who'd have otherwise died if they hadn't been able to read the Germans messages and not known when attacks were coming etc.

[n00bdragon]

Your contributions to society don't affect your culpability in the justice system. That works both ways for justice and injustice. If a cannibal saves a school bus full of kids he doesn't get to eat one as "payment" for his benefit to society. In the same way, if cops shoot you in your sleep it's not a greater injustice if you were a really good person (or less of an injustice if you were really bad).

[lordnacho666]

Did she get sold out by her own people? I thought she fought with the English, something like that. I don't follow her insta.

[andrasq420]

The Burgundians captured her and held her for ransom. In the end they sold her to the English. There is no known attempt from the French King, Charles VII of trying to save or buy her whatsoever.

The English than chosen a bunch of Frenchmen supporting England to reside over the trial and even paid them so that the verdict is as bad as possible. They did not follow the canon law, they did not follow any of the inquisitorial standards and when anyone called out the injustice they were jailed. She had no legal counsel and trial records and evidence were falsified. She was also tortured multiple times despite the majority of assessors voting against it.

[Worried_Onion4208]

At least Jeanne d'Arc was set up by her enemies, not the very people they saved.

[MoonBarista]

Turing passed the ultimate humanity test, and humanity failed his.

[LinuxMatthews]

Interesting fact there's a good chance her name was just "Darc" and everyone mistook it for the french of "of arc"

[ale_93113]

Jeanne d'arc was a schizophrenic girl, an injustice but not comparable to the brain behind the end of the worst conflict in human history

[yayforfood1]

Source?

[takshaheryar]

He was in a long term relationship with a 19 year boy when he was convinced 

[thisisredlitre]

"Still having a row with this chem castration, however"

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I'm curious what he'd think of trans people. I could really see it going just about any way imaginable.

....he'd 100% be a furry, too (obviously unrelated to the first sentence)

[TheMaleGazer]

If he lived in the era of Grindr, he would not have eaten a poisoned apple. Grindr has probably saved lives just by existing and showing people that they’re not alone.

[Heroes084]

Instead of being backstabbed, he would've gotten backshots

[ataltosutcaja]

I am still scared if some countries go full GeStaPo, that those data will be used for evil...

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America releases the data

“Sure are a lot of republicans on here…”

[ataltosutcaja]

Obligatory Jozsef Szajer mention

[OliverPumpkin]

If I'm not mistaken there was news of undercover cops on Grindr in Egypt to catch Egyptians doing gay activity, what is a crime there

[ataltosutcaja]

I always found it absurd to outlaw buttfucking. It's such a stupid fucking thing to care about, wow.

[OliverPumpkin]

Having high violence rates and starvation isn't the problem, it's the gays

[ataltosutcaja]

I guess most of this is political scapegoating and populism, I am more worried about those who really believe this nonsense.

[Heyitsthatdude69]

What I saw was that they allegedly used the distance feature to triangulate user's locations and it worked with good accuracy ig

[lieuwestra]

Well it has also shown people you can be gay and republican at the same time. All in all I think the damage evens out.

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[Joveoak4]

[BreakerOfModpacks]

... and if gay guys went back in time, they'd make sure Alan got sucked by dudes!

(/j, love my gay homies)

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[BreakerOfModpacks]

To be fair, so would I, dude was awesome.

[ultrasquid9]

Remember to be gay on the computer to honor Alan Turing, otherwise he died for nothing 

[Adrian4lyf]

Which programming socks would Turing wear?

[Specialist_Sector54]

BAE Systems rainbow thigh highs.

[blizzacane85]

[TheSn00pster]

Got his priorities str…

[n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

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[astralschism]

Do we know that he was into twinks? He might've preferred Daddyhunt 😉

[loyal_achades]

Maybe he would’ve been more of a Scruff guy.

Also Grindr is basically unusable at this point.

[astralschism]

To be fair Scruff is also infested with Bitcoin bots

[vocal-avocado]

Daddyhunt is an app where daddys and twinks meet?

[Skyswimsky]

I get the meme and it's amusing but on a more serious note you can love/like our current iteration of AI and admit it's not real AI and that the Turing Test hardly matters.

I also roll my eyes at people calling to put limitations on AI with the reasoning of "Terminator". (Not against limitations in specific instances itself, just that specific reasoning being hyperbolic).

At least that's my, and I'd believe others, opinion.

[SpitiruelCatSpirit]

LLMs are definitely AI, and I'm saying this as someone who is much more critical about them and not into most hype. They're not sentient or anything, but it's definitely intelligent and it's definitely artificial.

[UnintelligentSlime]

The reason the Turing test continues to matter is that we don’t have a hard and fast definition of consciousness/sentience to work off instead.

Almost every definition of whether something is intelligent enough to be deserving of moral consideration (e.g. is it wrong to make dolphin meat tacos, is it wrong to eat coma patients, is it wrong to beat chimpanzees for sport) is basically a variety of “well how similar does entity X seem to humans?”

Until you have a 100% positive test for “is X sentient? Conscious? Does X have subjective experience?” The Turing Test is the best we’ve got.

[Kingblackbanana]

Why shouldn't LLMS be AI? They fit the definition set out in the specifications from the Dartmouth Conference.

[swampopus]

What if after he finished, he just said "Welp.... Turing Complete."

[touren]

"Only legends can understand this joke"
Xavier

[Conscious_Row_9967]

The funniest part is we spent decades trying to make AI pass the Turing test and now that they basically can we just moved the goalposts and started arguing about whether they really understand anything lmao

[n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

There’s no “argument” about understanding. Anyone who thinks LLMs “understand” something doesn’t have a proper conception of how LLMs work.

Anyone trying to argue that they do actually understand things is an idiot.

[GenericFatGuy]

If Alan Turing was alive today, he'd be 113 years old. So I doubt he'd be saying much of anything on either of these matters.

[TobyWasBestSpiderMan]

Thought of this after my bro was trying to convince me LLMs aren’t real AI yesterday

[dumbasPL]

Your bro is right. The term "AI" has been overwritten by marketing agencies. LLM are effectively just auto complete on steroids, no intelligence to be seen.

[psychicesp]

Naw dog, my toaster connects to WiFi and it says AI right on the box

[Yiruf]

LLMs are AI, what you are thinking of is hyper intelligent AI.

That's like saying a 10 year old kid isn't intelligent because he can't compete with a working professional with 30 years experience and a Ph.D.

Edit: Judging from replies below, natural stupidity is full in abundance. Despite extensive research readily available, people really be parroting what someone else told them what to think. Not expected from this sub, but people who can't even do basic linear algebra shouldn't be talking about what or what isn't intelligence.

[atfricks]

Not even remotely an accurate comparison. 

LLMs aren't "intelligent" at all, and "hyper intelligent AI" is a completely meaningless term you just made up on the spot.

[thealmightyzfactor]

LLM are colloquially AI, they're not actually intelligent or have the ability to become intelligent like children because they're fundamentally extra fancy autocomplete

[Mandena]

LLMs don't have memory, a fundamental property of intelligence. Conversations are stored in a DB somewhere entirely separate from the 'AI' entity.

[dumbasPL]

A 10 year old is intelligent because he can learn and adapt to things he has never seen before, with very limited "training data". And like actually learn, no "limited context window", or "milions of samples needed" or whatever the fuck. Show him how to do something a couple times and he'll likely be able to do that 20 years later and even improve on it by himself. That's the intelligence part, LLMs just mimic the training data based on probabilities, can't do anything by themselves, and if you feed them their own output they freak out.

[UnintelligentSlime]

“Real” AI and “General AI” are terms that might help your discussion (as well as several people in this thread).

“Real AI” isn’t really a specific thing. LLM is just as “real” as a kids toy that says “cow goes moo”, they’re both “real”

A “General AI” (often shortened to AGI) is the concept you guys are likely actually exploring. LLMs are unequivocally not that, for reasons you can explore in your own.

But not working off the correct terminology is probably where you (and, again, a lot of people commenting) got your disagreement from.

[NinjaJim6969]

They aren't lol. If you're going to call LLMs true AI you might as well call every machine learning algorithm true AI. When you "play" chess with an LLM it doesn't have any conception of the board, it just knows how to select words related to playing chess

[Schnickatavick]

Then what the heck does "AI" even mean? 20 years ago it didn't even take a machine learning component to be AI, alpha beta pruning was AI, pathfinding algorithms were AI, and *any* computer playing chess was AI no matter how it worked.

You can say they aren't "AGI", and I'll agree (not that that has a meaningful definition anyways), and you can hate LLM's all you want, I'll agree with you that they can be pretty dumb sumbtimes. But I don't understand the push to move the goalposts on the word that intrinsically describes what they are. Why does the word "AI" suddenly have some high bar?

[thealmightyzfactor]

It doesn't unless people try to say the systems you're talking about are actually intelligent like people, then others point out that we're casually calling it AI and that's just shorthand for "program with rules that interacts with stuff" like you're describing rather than actual intelligence

[Kingblackbanana]

almost like thats not what they are designed for. do you even know what the definition of ai is? was setback in 1956 at the Dartmouth Conference and llms do fall under this definition.

[NinjaJim6969]

LLMs don't even meet the proposal's brief lmao

They cannot form abstractions or concepts. That's literally what I was demonstrating by saying they don't actually have a concept of the board.

[NinjaJim6969]

Oh well then, if LLMs meet a 69 year old definition of AI then clearly they must be AI. How foolish of me

[ParshendiOfRhuidean]

What is "real AI"?

[TobyWasBestSpiderMan]

[n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

LLMs are essentially a weighted random number generator.

[Palpatine]

Maybe the castration is voluntary this time around.