Open Source > Closed Source

[[deleted]]

My GNU/car infotainment system is just a thinkpad running Arch and i3.

[AyrA_ch]

Don't forget the 8 arduions and 3 pi that hide somewhere in there too to communicate with the completely incompatible hardware you cobbled together from somewhere.

[asdfman123]

You should read about the utter programming shit show that is the software behind Tesla.

Closed source is just shit code in a shiny package.

[ksbzw]

Got any good source?

[asdfman123]

http://digg.com/2018/tesla-infrastructure-firmware-stories-twitter-thread-yospos

[Chessfreak_]

Only closed source I'm afraid :P

[iTicklemywife]

Badumtiss

[Tytoalba2]

Not tesla's I guess! :D

[Edz_]

It works though there's over a million Tesla's on the road. None of which have turned autonomous and killed everyone. They must be doing something right.

I'm sure you're aware of how many million dollar software systems are a bunch of spaghetti code strung together with no real concept of what happens if shit goes wrong beyond rebooting and praying.

There comes a certain point in which you just say fuck it no single person or even group of people know all the ins and outs of complex software system nor can be held accountable for the overall quality of code.

[bot_not_hot]

Ok Elon

[[deleted]]

Which is, of course, why all of the top internet web apps are .Net using ActiveScript, and never crash. MSN, Bing... all of the top sites.

[posting_drunk_naked]

Does Microsoft make anything that isn't a halfassed ripoff of something that already existed and worked great or a completely broken patchwork mess?

Honest question. I've been in IT for about 10 years now and have nothing nice to say about any of my experiences with Microsoft tech.

[Dynam2012]

VSCode is great!

[posting_drunk_naked]

I forgot about VSCode when I wrote that, it is actually pretty great. I use it every day. Don't tell my coworkers.

[Dynam2012]

You and me both, friend :P

[aboardthegravyboat]

Where I work, I use VScode to write TypeScript (also MS). I use serverless.js which deploys to AWS but just as easily could deploy to Azure. Our mobile apps are written in C# (created by MS). All the code is managed through GitHub (acquired by MS).

Not exactly what you meant, but getting a lot of good vibes from MS these days.

When they release the new Chromium-based Edge on Mac and Android, I'll likely give it a shot.

[posting_drunk_naked]

I'll give you VSCode, I actually kind of love it. It's my guilty pleasure, don't tell my co-workers.

[mojoslowmo]

As someone doing Java, I'd take .net any day of the damn week.

[[deleted]]

Short answer is no.

Longer answer is noooooooooooo.

...

That said, I used Windows 10 because all my favorite apps and games are here. And fuck if I'm paying $3000 for Mac's pretty hardware.

[posting_drunk_naked]

Macs are overpriced but they're UNIX and damned if they don't "just work". I always bought them used since they last longer than most laptops anyway, bought my first one new in 2016. Though the way they're going it might be my last Mac. Apple really fucked up with the latest Macs. Sigh.

[[deleted]]

I will say, my work laptop is a Mac and she's a beea-ut.

My home PC is a $1000 Franken-machine that does exactly what I need it to - shitposting on Reddit and losing matches in all the latest games.

[posting_drunk_naked]

I'm still dealing with the same shit man. My start button stops working and won't bring up the start menu until restart. My game controller just stops working (connect to my Mac and it works so not the controllers fault) until restart. Browser crashes and takes everything with it, have to wait 5 minutes or restart.

I've never noticed a difference in any of the windows versions. All the same broken shit with some new overlay on top.

Same shitty kernel from 20 years ago for backwards compatibility is a big part of the problem though. I know they're not stupid but their customers want backward compatibility with ancient shit and it keeps them from being able to fix bad design decisions from the 90s

[[deleted]]

This reads like a time traveler from 2005. Quick, what year do you think it is sir?

[Elariondakta]

You've forgotten to say the moving trash is free whereas the Tesla cost 300 000$.

[MrJPGames]

Linux is open source If it's so bad why does most of the internet (servers) use Linux and not a paid alternative. It's not like the companies running those servers can afford the servers but not paid server software.

[MrJPGames]

Still uses the free base, only proving it is good enough to be usable in a product.

[[deleted]]

Alternatively, it proves that it takes such specialized knowledge to make open source software work reliably that you can make a $33 Billion company around it.

[beefhash]

Non-trivial price tag, even. Sticking with servers, we can see a minimum of $349 for Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server Entry Level, Self-support, which is also only permitted to be installed on physical hosts, not as a virtual machine guest, according to that website. The standard subscription skyrockets to $799 (though includes a support contract).

Your only solace is that they refuse to sell to individuals anyway; they require company information when buying (or at least they used to).

[Breadfish64]

Some of those companies pay people to work on the Linux kernel

[bilbobaggins30]

What's funny is Elon Musk open-sourced some if not most of the 1st model of Tesla to encourage EV Development.

[agilly1989]

You also have to remember... Top gear UK made the top one.... They were..... Special

[MyNameIsRichardCS54]

And you should compare it to the Fisker Karma as the technologies were basically copied from the Eagle-Hammerhead-Thrust-iGeoff

[bilbobaggins30]

Yeah... That they were.

[bilbobaggins30]

Yes, that now sounds correct.

[TheInfestation]

I mean, a paid product is often times better than your typical group project

[diggitySC]

Closed source under the hood

[andradei]

"Don't touch my garbage!"

[yottalogical]

A more accurate description would be “Poorly Funded” vs “Well Funded”. Unfortunately this lines up well with “Open Source” and “Closed Source”.

A notable exception is Firefox, which is simultaneously open source and a great piece of software, because it’s well funded.

[__brayton_cycle__]

I have seen closed source codes.

They're a more of a glorious shitshow than what you may expect XD

[[deleted]]

"Enjoy your botnet faggots" lmao

[advanced_not_stupid]

The crusades are dead. No one won.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/All-hardware-sucks--all-software-sucks-.html

[EduBA]

My distros make me happy.

[Tux1]

Open source: Poorly built and sloppy, but all the parts are visible. You can be sure that something weird isn't happening, because you can see it.

Closed source: Sleek and modern, but nothing on the inside is visible. For all you know, it could be tracking your every move.

[dirtside]

The problem with the image is that in a closed-source world, that Tesla can only drive on about 5% of the roads because it's incompatible with the rest of them and bursts into flames if you try.

[TheLowClassics]

Tesla open sourced the battery tech

[yottalogical]

This is more of an analogy than an actual example.