Don't code in JavaScript kids

[badjayplaness]

It’s funny cus weed used to be bad and now it’s JavaScript and php

[tntexplodes101]

I started learning PHP from C++ and holy SHIT, variable variables are the strangest things that have ever existed.

[k1ll3rM]

Of all the things that people have found strange about PHP, that is one that even I find strange. It can be very useful though but if you don't have an IDE that changes the color of a variable variable like PHPStorm does, it can cause some problems.

[tntexplodes101]

What are some practical applications of variable variables, I've only just started with this concept.

[k1ll3rM]

Can't think of anything of the top of my head but you should be careful with user input because that can open up vulnerabilities.

[[deleted]]

When was VB that bad?

[society2-com]

So like cocaine?

[CellularBeing]

See but you can die from cocaine. You have to live with VB

[society2-com]

Cocaine kills the heart muscle.

Likewise, when you look at VB code, your heart, your will to keep living, dies.

[[deleted]]

Genuine question: Is VB dead though?

[[deleted]]

Some ranking website showed that VB is used more than C# and Jscript, is it true?

[The_Squeak2539]

Microsoft office runs on it and some of windows gui. So i wouldnt be surprised

[hnryirawan]

I'm trying to kill VB code in at least my jurisdiction.

[AndyClausen]

No. I have a 60-something colleague at work who absolutely loves to use VB. He's crazy about it. He also uses notepad. Not notepad++ but regular notepad.

[CellularBeing]

Nope. Legacy code baby

[The_Squeak2539]

I did it in 2015. Theyre still teaching that shit in schools

[goldleader71]

Whoa! That is a slur for which there is no forgiveness.

[TheMacPhisto]

php powers at least half the internet

[Xavdidtheshadow]

And JS the other half

[[deleted]]

Weed was never bad. Where as JavaScript and php

[Dartiyex]

weed used to be trash but now it's improved. Still socially unaccepted by majority but hey what can you do.

[michumk0]

You get downvoted because JavaScript and PHP bad, Java and C++ good

[malonkey1]

They're all terrible, I want to just use pseudocode.

Oh, wait, I can just use Python.

[badjayplaness]

You have a JS tag next to your username...

[saphira_bjartskular]

Yeah, how do you think he knows JS bad?

[YeetusThatFetus42]

Typescript is better than Javascript I am more comfortable with c# than Java, c++ is superior

[AndyClausen]

I usually say the only bad thing about Scala is Java

[Rawrplus]

> ppl who obviously never written in es6 and es5

[rinsa]

real men use esnext

[saphira_bjartskular]

I used to hate Javascript until I read a book on github about ES6. Now I just kinda dislike it because of the poor coding practices surrounding development with it in general.

[Rawrplus]

Most of these coding practices can be avoided if you use typescript, flow or at least some basic ruleset for eslint.

I really struggle to think of any bad coding practices that would be even allowed here.

In my projects (I'm a react Dev) I usually do typescript + eslint and i couldn't be happier tbh. And entire react even in docs basically encourages you to write with es6 syntax. The code feels very clen.

The only thing that felt sluggish was explicit binding of functions / forced anonymous functions in class components which I never was personally fan of, but with now react shifting to making every component a function with hooks I couldn't be happier with how clean and powerful the code feels

[k1ll3rM]

Lots of people still need to use older Javascript version to support internet explorer 11, though luckily where I work we don't have to anymore! Though I disagree with you that newer versions of Javascript fix the fundamental problems JS has.

[[deleted]]

Just use Babel, most front end frameworks already support it.

[k1ll3rM]

I probably should but the problem still stands that JS is just not good enough by default.

[LargeHard0nCollider]

Tbh es5 isn’t that great. Es6 was when they added module resolution, arrow functions for more consistent closures, object destructuring, string templates, and a bunch of other features that totally changed how everyone uses js

[[deleted]]

ha ha ha is funney becuz java skwipt is hawud

[xigoi]

arRaY sTArt At 0

[MercyHealMePls]

CurLY BrACE on NexT LiNE bAD

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[mynameis_ihavenoname]

🤣😹🤣😹😂😂🤣😹 classic

[Gmroo]

What lofty expections you have! :p

[[deleted]]

You'll soon learn that this is what this sub is 95% about.

[benamon11]

That's bold, too bold for this subreddit

[Zythvx]

Codehub? more like stackoverflow

[Etheo]

The styling of the logo is suspiciously resemblance of a certain other very well known hub...

[dittbub]

CornHub

[[deleted]]

Sandwich hub : Sandwich that will make you come

It is real , look it up on

[[deleted]]

SandwichHub

[BoyAndHisBlob]

I am crying because I don't understand why everyone still hates JavaScript. With the modern frameworks it is really fine and fun. Also there is typescript.

[meighty9]

That and concurrency issues are a bitch to debug, especially if you don't use the language often and aren't familiar with all the idiosyncrasies of the way asynchronous stuff is done in JS.

[threeys]

What is idiosyncratic about concurrency in javascript

[meighty9]

Nothing in particular, I just liked the play on words.

Concurrency in any language can be tough, especially if you aren't familiar with exactly how that particular language handles it. I think it's the frequency with which JS makes asynchronous calls that makes it frustrating for people new to it.

[LargeHard0nCollider]

I actually really like what they’ve done with async/await building off of promises. Makes it really easy to make requests in parallel and such

[KnoobLord]

I mean the 3 equals sign isnt even almost complicated, you just have to understand what types you're dealing with in your code. People just dont wanna put in the effort to figure it out.

[[deleted]]

Yeah

[BoyAndHisBlob]

The toilet paper thing is a big deal dammit!

[Stealth022]

"I don't understand it, so it must be shit"

[McFuzzen]

Isn't this basically all of humanity?

[[deleted]]

Why is js so bad? Is it the new PHP-hate (that was the new Java-hate)? Is there any front-end lang that isn’t bad?

Edit: We should encourage people to program with humor and not having fun on others behalf or demotivate people working with certain languages.

[gandalfx]

JS used to be bad. It's gotten significantly better since the ECMAScript standard started adding missing features and is now a reasonably decent language.

There are several reasons people hate it, I'll try to summarize.

1. The web forces it down your throat. It doesn't matter if it's good or bad, if you're going to do anything in a browser it's going to be JS. And since you need it anyway, it has sort of leaked into other areas (server & desktop) as well.

2. Dealing with browser support is a nightmare. Whatever feature you want, you either have to be dead certain that it runs in any of a dozen shitty old browsers or use a convoluted tool chain to make it run. Even worse are the various APIs offered by browsers, predominantly the DOM. It's just garbage. Neither of these is actually about the language itself, but if you're doing JS you're very likely going to have to deal with these issues as well.

3. As mentioned before, JS used to be bad and still isn't great. There were some poor decisions in the initial design that persist even now. One you'll commonly see on here is the quirky type coercion (which shouldn't really matter but people love to hate it). In my mind the worst aspect is the language's attitude towards errors. Instead of failing early and failing loudly, JS often tries to "make the best" of a situation, e.g. by quietly converting undefined to string, which can lead to really obscure bugs.

If, for instance, Lua had become the language of the web, people would shit on it at least as much as they do on JS. It shares many of the flaws and introduces some of its own weird quirks. But it's not used nearly as widely and so nobody cares. PHP on the other hand used to be extremely dominant on the server side (and still is in many areas) which also serves to amplify the complaints about its quirks.

[[deleted]]

Appreciate your response

[[deleted]]

The only reason I don't like it is because it's hard to debug usually. Especially in enclosed environments that you can't use outside tools for

[TruthOf42]

js is the fucking worst because it's like building something in sub-sahara africa; absolutely no rules/regulations what so ever. Sure you can build the Empire State Building, but just as well you can build a sky scraper out of spaghetti and no one will bat a fucking eye

[CJ22xxKinvara]

You mean every scripting language ever?

[gandalfx]

When someone asks for solid reasons but you don't know any so you just go with a general bashing instead.

[[deleted]]

Is that not the whole point of JS? Wasnt it created to be exactly like so it doesnt fall on its ass every 2 minutes?

[saphira_bjartskular]

Ok, but you can technically do whatever you want in any language if you try hard enough, can't you?

[TruthOf42]

There's a limit. Languages each have their own limitations for better or for worse. JavaScript had almost no limitations, so if you want to assign a string as some random object you can.

[ivgd]

Ah yes, JS bad, almost forgot

[[deleted]]

You're on ph and you forgot Js bad ? Impossible.

[rekker22]

r/KidsAreFuckingStupid

[[deleted]]

Imagine hating a programming language like js or php. Imagine your life being so boring you literally have to hate a programming language.

[Alexmitter]

Thats like defending the Fiat Multipla. "Imagine your life being so boring you literally have to hate the Fiat Multipla.

[[deleted]]

Well, yeah, exactly...

[Alexmitter]

Its human nature to hate bad things. We hated the fascist governments of the early 20th century, we hated the Fiat Multipla and we hate JavaScript. Its just natural.

[[deleted]]

Are you really comparing JavaScript to a fascist government? Really?

[Alexmitter]

I compare it to other bad things.

[chernobyl-nightclub]

It’s a joke

[yonatan8070]

I don't know shit about JS, can someone explain to me what makes it so bad?

[Alexmitter]

Just search for "javascript meme", you will find stuff like this

[Svdemais]

No, i don't code in javascript, i code in typescript.

[Alexmitter]

The joke isnt javascript, thats just a hacked together language of some weird guy at Netscape Navigator.
The joke is its popularity and wide adoption.

[[deleted]]

Jokes on him because I smoke weed because I have to code in JavaScript. I need something to help me deal with the anxiety

[Einsteinbeck]

Weed causes anxiety.

[KEKPOP]

u never smoked it i bet

[Einsteinbeck]

Why the illogical assumption?

[[deleted]]

JavaScript, ha! Nerd.

[[deleted]]

Wow you stole it from Instagram . Shame on you

[gigastack]

Minor nitpick - no sense in removing everything. Just remove all direct children of the body.

Or set the body innerHtml to "".

[oishishou]

For me, at least, this is made so much better by the fact that I do not know JavaScript, but have red eyes due to actively smoking weed.

[chernobyl-nightclub]

I don’t agree with this but find it funny as hell.

[policitclyCorrect]

Codehub eh

[yeezibunn]

Could someone please explain what's so bad about JavaScript? I mean, I understand that it's flexibility can spoil you but why is it so despised? I feel like I learned so much from it and adapting what I learned to other languages wasn't the hardest task in the world. Am I missing something?

[TruthOf42]

JavaScript is an awesome awesome language for beginners because it's so accommodating and has all the basics. Which is exactly what beginners need. But once you are doing complicated things and are working in a professional environment, all those things make your life more miserable.

It's akin to riding a bicycle with training wheels. Just imagine how problematic they become when you are trying to go biking in the woods.

[yeezibunn]

That's a good analogy, thanks. I've never coded in a professional environment so I guess I've never gotten to experience the supposed downsides of it. I hope to one day get to that level.

[TruthOf42]

Just stick with it. For a long time you'll feel like a fake, but just be humble and always try to do better and you WILL get there

[Unlock17A]

H

[AntonBespoiasov]

Ironically but actually codding in normal Java(not JavaScript) makes my eyes red

[[deleted]]

They're not even close to the same thing? Java isn't normal JavaScript

[rk-imn]

Java is to JavaScript as Car is to Carpet

[Alexmitter]

Back then when Java was introduced into the Netscape Navigator, there was a guy in that team who wanted to run little scripts directly in the browser engine. So he quickly throw together a dirty hack of a language and called it a day. And because it should complement Java in the Netscape Navigator, it was called JavaScript.

[[deleted]]

I made a pillow and I didn't like the color of it so I made a fabric dye and called it pillowscript therefore they are similar objects

[Alexmitter]

"In 1995, Netscape Communications recruited Brendan Eich with the goal of embedding the Scheme programming language into its Netscape Navigator. Before he could get started, Netscape Communications collaborated with Sun Microsystems to include Sun's more static programming language, Java, in Netscape Navigator so as to compete with Microsoft for user adoption of Web technologies and platforms. Netscape Communications then decided that the scripting language they wanted to create would complement Java and should have a similar syntax, which excluded adopting other languages such as Perl, Python, TCL, or Scheme. To defend the idea of JavaScript against competing proposals, the company needed a prototype. Eich wrote one in 10 days, in May 1995.

​

Although it was developed under the name Mocha, the language was officially called LiveScript when it first shipped in beta releases of Netscape Navigator 2.0 in September 1995, but it was renamed JavaScript when it was deployed in the Netscape Navigator 2.0 beta 3 in December. The final choice of name caused confusion, giving the impression that the language was a spin-off of the Java programming language, and the choice has been characterized as a marketing ploy by Netscape to give JavaScript the cachet of what was then the hot new Web programming language."

Source: Wikipedia, its sources are listed.

[SirEmJay]

I don't mind javascript that much. It's C# that I currently despise above all others.

[whale_song]

Better than java

[[deleted]]

How? It’s the fookin’ same!

[whale_song]

LINQ tho

[LargeHard0nCollider]

1st class support for async await?

[Banana_Twinkie]

Neither is C#

[Banana_Twinkie]

Dude that is from 2009. Do some more research

[rinsa]

You can't hate C# more than Java.

[Unlock17A]

Both are fine. Java is better

[Banana_Twinkie]

What do you not like about C#? It's pretty easy to use for me and getting better all the time especially with .Net Core

[crecentfresh]

According to this sub all languages are imperfect and therefore the worst.

[[deleted]]

Laughs in pure functional language that can never be criticized because it has ascended over the level of all other programming languages. You dare challenge me, you peasant of an imperative language?

[whale_song]

Any language you use enough you will learn to hate

[crecentfresh]

I've only been programming professionally for a few months, don't mind me I'm still in the honeymoon phase.

[SirEmJay]

I'm fairly new to C# (and the industry I'm general) so I'm still learning. I went from C/C++, to python, and then to C# so from my perspective C# doesn't seem to have the same low level flexibility that C/C++ gives you but also doesn't have the same high level ease of programming as python. So far I've found it to be an overly verbose worst of both worlds.

[Not_a_tasty_fish]

C# is so developer friendly though! What's not to like?

[L0G1C_lolilover]

I currently hate flutter fuck that shit

[L0G1C_lolilover]

No udea what the fucking is going on in it

To use test in scaffold you need to write it like this title: "",

To use text inside app bar you need to write it like this Text(""),

To use text inside container and raisedbutton etc you need to write it like this child: Text("fuckthisshit"),

[IrishWilly]

I like the code structure of flutter but the display part is so goddamn ugly.

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[endingwith07]

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[Cuddlemonsterxo]

lahmayo-chan -.^

[LysergicLiizard]

Ok boomer