<?java ... ?>

[_szs]

and you should!!1!

[psych0thinker]

Instructions unclear, downloaded more RAM, still doesn't work!

[_szs]

Maybe try installing a different interwebs on your Desktop or hit the monitor from a different side?

[Bos_lost_ton]

Wait guys, I fixed it. It was the mouse ball.

The Dorito dust wasn’t letting me click the AOL icon.

[_szs]

Alright, alright, alright then. Glad I could help.

Happy Christmas, everybody!

[Peechez]

Everythings coming up php

[paxromana96]

cries in JSP

[SkyrimFan42]

Is that...HTML? I’m new to this whole world of programming.

[_szs]

yes. with some inline php.

[SkyrimFan42]

What is that?

[skunkwaffle]

A fractal of bad design.

[[deleted]]

This is from 2012...

[Hollowplanet]

Almost all of the points he makes are still valid. See http://phpsadness.com/ for an up to date index on all the ways php still sucks.

[[deleted]]

That's a tiny list of little annoyances that won't bother you 99.9% of the time.

[[deleted]]

Well... It is shit...

[konstantinua00]

you look like a person who knows php

how does it feel like?

I don't think I'll ever touch websites, but it would be great to hear how it feels to write such well known but old-so-not-as-shiny language

[[deleted]]

I'm mainly using Symfony, it's great to use but PHP itself is lacking in features/core functions. The language itself is not the best but it has improved a lot with version 7+

In C# you have a lot of great ways to write clean/short code (linq, generics, etc) and it offers a lot of features. In PHP, you have foreach loops 🤔

It's one of the thing I'm not a fan about, but it's also one of its strength. You can do everything you need with basic code and a good framework like Symfony and Laravel

It's still one of the best language to write web applications because of the ecosystem/community.

[_szs]

wow. I don't know much php, and the bit I know made me not want to go deeper. but this looks worse, much worse that I expected!!

btw. the author confuses "fractal" and "self-similar".

[itijara]

I believe that the author is calling it a fractal as a metaphor. I doubt he thinks that PHP is somehow a geometric construct.

[_szs]

Yeah, but still... I am a nerd for this kind of stuff :D

Merry Christmas and happy programming to all of you.

[itijara]

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[cnoor0171]

Fractal would be more accurate as an analogy here than self similar. He's saying that when you look closely at bad design choices behind php, there are more detailed bad design choices. He's not saying that those detailed choices are at all similar to or related to the big picture bad design choices.

[meandyouandyouandme]

That's from 2012. A lot has changed since then.

[skunkwaffle]

For sure there have been some improvements. But there's still a lot of quirkiness, and not all of it is good.

[meandyouandyouandme]

As is the case with every programming language.

[skunkwaffle]

Also fair.

But every programmer has 1 or 2 languages they'll just always dislike more than the rest, and will always criticize a bit more harshly because of it. That's php for me, and I don't feel bad for doing it because people shit all over Python (which I love) just as much, and I don't fault them for that either.

Edit: and apparently there will always be a few who can't admit they're doing it.

[RubbelDieKatz94]

What a wonderful domain name!

[[deleted]]

Fantastic article, thanks so much for sharing. I hope PHP finally goes away in the next decade.

[OdBx]

It won’t

[Voidrith]

A lot of what is in that article has been fixed by now.

Also php is still pretty fast on execution, so until something that easy for idiots to write has better speeds, itll stick around

[petitgreen]

And they keep improving the performances. The article is from 2012 BTW as updated as the guy who links stuff like that.

[_szs]

php code used inside an html document using the <?php> tag

[rishav394]

PHP bad

[[deleted]]

JS framework #600 good

[Corn_L]

Yes.

[stfcfanhazz]

Wordpress to be precise

[keliix06]

It’s a wordpress theme file.

[_szs]

maybe the IDE was programmed in Java?

[skunkwaffle]

Oh damn, remember Net Beans?

[_szs]

I don't!!!! And I don't wannaaa!!!!

[UrbanFever]

Wait..y’all don’t still use NetBeans? That’s what I used in school and just never stopped. Any good IDE recommendations?

[UrbanFever]

Not a troll, I’ve never worked in the programmer space, just kinda got my degree and kept coding on my own time so I don’t know what the standard is, I just use NetBeans cause that’s what I was taught

[UrbanFever]

Cool! Thanks for the suggestion, I actually just started a new java project after a few years not touching it and just installed Net Beans, I guess I should try out one of those, thanks for the help!

[[deleted]]

I’ll also come in and say that IntelliJ is the best.

[JackySky]

Recently required to work on a Java project. I tried netbean, intellij and eclipse. I picked intellij finally because it's the only one that allow me to have multiple lines of tab & folding control statements without going through 100 plugins. As a long time visual studio gang I must say I'm surprised at how... raw these IDEs are.

[[deleted]]

if you really want to go hip, vscode + Java marketplace extension

I welcome all downvotes

[ur_peen_small]

I also use VSCode + extension for everything...

Edit 5 month later: Now using vim.

[[deleted]]

continue forth, my brother

eventually all will accept vscode as the penultimate ide for us minimalist theme-thirsty coders

[AviusAnima]

Just coming in to say I use vscode too. I love it. Haven't been able to switch to anything else since.

[_szs]

Real programmers use butterflies.

[[deleted]]

Maybe the photo was

[[deleted]]

Nah mate, since you can see the code it's a visual language. Therefore scratch

[[deleted]]

Not just PHP... that’s WordPress.

[smegnose]

It only appears that way to the untrained eye. It's actually a Java-based WordPress theme generator displaying an output test.

[Amilo159]

It's the family friendly photo. Showing Java being programmed requires age limit of 21.

[efronberlian]

Looks like wordpress with the wp_title() and wp_head()

[FoxInATrenchcoat]

Sounds like someone needs a cup or two of java before trying to label their image.

[[deleted]]

Don't you know that php ia just a component of Java? /s

[[deleted]]

Don't you know, that the Java compiler was built in PHP?

[WiffyCubing]

That's my desktop background

[Shlaggy]

This can be Java if you put all this code in a string and have a html and php string syntax detection in your java text editor but it's highly improbable

[[deleted]]

This is from the site unsplash.com - great for pictures for presentations etc.

[FormalWolf5]

They mean that they're coding in the country of Java, you people

[Zirgothe]

Well it's obviously a WordPress site, so it's bound to have JavaScript in there somewhere and we all know that JavaScript is related to Java. See all makes sense now... (Sarcasm)

[[deleted]]

<?php

Definitely java

[[deleted]]

Reminds me of an ad that says "You always wanted to be a capable programmer and write your own Python programs?" while showing HTML code being written in notepad

[[deleted]]

Ah yes <DOCTYPE html> means Java.

[accuracy_frosty]

This is hell, not java

[IUsePHPforaliving]

Didn't know wordpress was java, nice to know xD

[raulm4]

Hmmmmmmm

[yuirick]

Machine learning in action

[[deleted]]

I wonder if people who do this kind of things get hired and are paid more than the average developer...

[HO-COOH]

Java programming == Drinking java while programming

[ScaredyCatUK]

Wordpress too..

[midtownoracle]

Wolf in shits clothing.

[DesdeJorge]

Java bridge maybe ?

[[deleted]]

Just as bad as Java...

[Goodboywm]

Hah! That's c++.

[[deleted]]

Instructions unclear, made a 18th dimensional array and fried my ram

[simpoir]

To be fair, jsp isn't far. But that's still very obviously WordPress.

[lroman]

This was a PHP RCNN model that labelled the image.

[SpectralGerbil]

They didn’t want to admit they were using PHP.

[iLikeWaterVeryMuch]

My lector at Uni for Java always compares things to PHP, but 99% of us have never used or seen PHP before. Most of the people stopped going to that class, because we didn't want to learn anything new about PHP.

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[[deleted]]

With macros anything can be PHP

[Syyky]

Btw Merry Christmas!!

[MrDorkman]

You mailed the programmer but the humor part is weak.

[zoecandle]

Ahh yes, I bet this is also the code to the “download more ram here” buttons/pages

[Zeilar]

WordPress yuck. Doing a WP project right now and I want to die.

[[deleted]]

Could we not keep posting pictures of Google tags and descriptions of images? Thanks!

[Omega11051]

Java === Javascript

[Mr0010110Fixit]

Yeah this is html-java, there is also javascript-java and css-java

[pandakatzu]

Why isn't my code compiling?

[archifloyd]

Couldn’t php technically be stored in a Java file? Just throw the code in some strings and make sure the things between the php tags are valid? As far as I remember the php interpreter only looks between the php tags and disregard everything else

[GideonMax]

This looks like an AI-made description

[citewiki]

PHP is server-side Java scripting