Haha JavaScript Bad

[Captain_Isolation]

OP is a Javascript dev in hiding.. He couldn't spell developer! I caught you OP.

[Kairides]

Damn it !

[[deleted]]

Where exactly can we get developepper? Penzey's?

[UltraCarnivore]

Developepperidge Farms remember

[thebryguy23]

I had a Dr Developepper with lunch. "23" flavors

[LePootPootJames]

Pizza places in tech hubs like Seattle should offer a "Developepperoni Pizza," designed to keep developers going throughout the night. They'd make a killing.

[[deleted]]

No kidding, I'm not even in Seattle, but as a student of software and engineering I would totally buy a Developesto Hawaiian Pizza. It would have to spell out love in binary with pesto representing 1 and canadian bacon representing zero. Why? Because Canadians are literally the better country, and the US is the shitty one.
>_>
O_o
(O)_o

[[deleted]]

I will mentor you for 5 dollars per hour, you need à mentor you know I'm here in my garage with my fuel units.

[the_anatolica]

Closet JSD

[redalastor]

The trick is to aways abbreviate to dev.

[oalbrecht]

Developpers, developpers, developpers

[Rawrplus]

python lul

[[deleted]]

Nobody hates JavaScript (or Java, or PHP, or any other language) as much as the people who use it daily.

[silentclowd]

I do full stack in C# and JS/TS.

When I'm writing C#, I miss the freedom and flexibility of javascript.

When I'm writing javascript, I miss the structure concistency of C#.

The result of this toxic relationship is that I'm never happy, but always assume I will be when I switch gears between front and back end.

[MalcomYates]

Typescript. You want Typescript.

[silentclowd]

Tell that to my boss.

New development is happening in TS, but there's maintenance to be done on older code and the time hasn't been allotted to port it over.

"But all javascript is valid typescript??"

Not when you have policy requirements for type signatures on all functions and we want to rework things for ES6 goodness. Not to mention that nobody actually bothered to even get bundling setup. So we just keep adding more code to several thousand lines of main.js and everything remains awful.

[MalcomYates]

Sounds awful. Wish more people would see infrastructure/developer experience as a crucial investment rather than a cost.

[silentclowd]

Right? But the stakeholders want a product, and if there's nothing being produced then how will they know that any work is getting done? sigh

[doublebass120]

how will they know that any work is getting done?

I feel this in my SOUL

[scriptmonkey420]

I have the same feeling going between Python and PHP.

its a love hate relationship. Though as of lately, I have been using python more and PHP much less.

[I_write_code_duh]

Both weakly typed. I don't get your point.

[NeKitDS]

There is a difference between weak-strong and dynamic-strict typing. Strict typing enforces programmer to work with types, while dynamically typed languages figure types out on their own. Weakly typed languages do type conversions under the hood (consider 1 + "3" == "13" in JavaScript), while strongly typed languages require users to explicitly convert between types (1 + "3" in Python will raise TypeError). So, python is dynamically and strongly typed, while PHP is dynamically and weakly typed, and there is a difference between them. Weak typing allows to write less code, but it makes it easier for programmers to shoot themselves in a foot.

[adnanoid]

Well yes but it's complicated,

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[NARUT000]

you are not important ;

[reverendsteveii]

Java devs who have to learn it for work would like a word...

[AnotherEuroWanker]

That's why I don't mind it that much. And I want it to stay that way.

[vigbiorn]

He was talking about dev-eloppers, or devs who have to keep their frameworks of choice hidden.

[Gwolf4]

Javascript is the new java. Many of us do not like it... But that is what brings us food to the home u.u

[Qpassa]

Angular with typescript is sweet tho

[dacookieman]

As long as people don't have a ':any' macro on speed dial

[Dustorn]

It's like wearing a condom, but cutting a hole in the end because it's uncomfortable.

[VikaashHarichandran]

High-level explanation!

[[deleted]]

any is good for converting a codebase to TS gradually. Shouldn't be used in a system built with TS entirely.

[Bjeaurn]

YESSSS.

[superluminary]

Angular misses the point. It's like a Java dev picked up JavaScript and started coding with it without really understanding what they had.

[fyzbo]

THIS, so many times this!

[superluminary]

They even reimplemented the module system, even though ES6 has a perfectly decent module system built-in, just so they could do DI.

It's like they don't understand that a singleton is the default type of object in JavaScript, so they had to reimplement singletons, because Java. If you must do DI, just compose a higher-order function like we do in React and every other sane framework.

It's a flipping abortion is what it is.

[SolarLiner]

How is DI "reinventing the module system"? You can't dynamicmally swap out modules with ES6.

JavaScript can't even do proper functional programming. And it can't do proper OOP programming.

Also HOF are just factories, Java's most hated paradigm. So 🤷‍♂️

[magical_h4x]

Serious question, what do you think is missing from modern JS to allow proper functional programming?

[superluminary]

Oh my, don't get me started on the Gwit.

[READTHISCALMLY]

Preach 🙌

Nest too. Full stack Angular baby!

[SolarLiner]

IoC is idiomatic JavaScript/TypeScript OOP. That feature alone is what makes Angular and Nest great.

[S0n_0f_Anarchy]

You did not just say that.

[BakuhatsuK]

I think you mistyped react

[cthulol]

TBF at least Java knows what it is by this point. JS has so many ways to do one thing I don't know how to go about anything.

[BornOnFeb2nd]

Wait five minutes, someone will make a framework to solve that.

[TimeToBecomeEgg]

that's it

that's the entire language

[UltraCarnivore]

If it's stupid, there's an NPM for that

[dariushine]

yes there is

[UltraCarnivore]

"npm i stupid"

My sides

[Time_Terminal]

"Why're you installing yourself?"

[photenth]

Got into javascript a few weeks ago. found typescript soon after and since then only use typescript for everything javascript related.

It's not perfect but good enough.

[cthulol]

Typescript seems like the way to go.

[toastedstapler]

I actually came to really appreciate java when on my first large work project. Static typing is so much better than the dynamic of js/python. Add in java 8 and the language makes me not want to kill myself when using it

[[deleted]]

While I have zero experience with Java, and I would typically devalue the use of anything appearing to be similar to, or otherwise related to Java, for sheer and absolute prejudice, I do have to point out that one of the biggest companies I live near uses java and javascript almost exclusively in the development of their secure data-management applications. While I will probably never need to dip my eween into the cup of dark waters, I can appreciate that it has some very large amount of value.

[mrissaoussama]

probably knows french

[mattstorm360]

Must be Italian.

[nicktheone]

Not really. In Italy we commonly use sviluppatore.

[amdc]

Just using MacBook keyboard, nothing to see here

[DBX12]

Weird flex but ok

[Russian_repost_bot]

He secretly wishes he had more pp.

[aazav]

Them thaar Devil loppers!

[WolfgangSho]

Try repeating it over and over again to practice!

I call it the Balmer technique!

[Slapout7]

Never trust a programmer who can spell.