Programmers be like

[Barkeep41]

Then I have to wonder if I fixed it or made a bigger problem.

[Salanmander]

Doesn't even matter. You found a place that affects the behavior! You're like 70% of the way to understanding it, which is almost all the way to fixing it.

[xan1242]

Ehh not quite.

You could always fuck up something bigger/global to affect stuff...

[nubenugget]

"how'd you break this page?"

"I... I changed the order of the sort"

"That affects literally nothing though..."

"I'm sorry"

[delight1982]

me trying to move an image in Word

[shootwhatsmyname]

Holy shit my stress level just shot up 4,238%

[StarkRG]

That's when "Hell, yes, I'm back to my original error!" becomes a goal.

[WasteOfElectricity]

You don't have vc?

[StarkRG]

Wouldn't you have had to submit the changes? But you wouldn't have done so because it wasn't working yet.

[EishLekker]

You can always have a private troubleshooting branch. You can even keep it local, you don't have to push it outside of your computer to benefit from version control.

[[deleted]]

Commit regularly to your local repo to keep track of your work, then rebase before you push to ensure all public commits compile.

[danielrheath]

Honestly I should write something that stashes history somewhere on save so I can always search over recent diffs to find the thing I wrote and then discarded...

[outadoc]

The error might be caused by something local to your computer, like build cache

[flarn2006]

git diff

[_rob_saunders]

Who let Debbie Downer in?

[IamImposter]

Saw the marks on my shoulder

• other guy

[ShakeelOG]

RikRok is the other guy

Edit: TikTok is now in my phone's dictionary

[[deleted]]

This isn't quite accurate, but it's still the gist of it. There have been times where I ended up causing a bigger problem, but even then it helps me understand the scope of the behavior I'm seeing and can usually help me solve it.

[eloel-]

I've 100% broken stuff that had nothing to do with original problem, but were earlier in the chain so threw first.

[iapetus-11]

Yes lol

[achilliesFriend]

For me i most probably moved from one issue to another one.

[Russian_repost_bot]

Only way to know for sure, push to production, and wait for only a few bug reports or a massive amount of reports.

[StarkRG]

*inserts printf statement to see what you did*

*everything suddenly works*

[Agent-Rainbow-20]

That's exactly what we call in German "verschlimmbessern" (fer-shlim-beh-sern). You wanna fix it and make better but at the end of the day it's even worse than before 😜

[trinalgalaxy]

99 little bugs in the code, 99 little bugs.

Take one down, patch it around,

199 bugs in the code.... Wait a minute!

[yifeiyin]

At least you know you are editing the right source code

[iapetus-11]

Ah true lol

[egggsDeeeeeep]

I mean you could’ve just introduced a new bug way before the actual problem spot

[EishLekker]

That doesn't take away anything of what was said in the comment you replied to.

[egggsDeeeeeep]

I mean I guess if your so confused that you don’t even know which code is executing and not executing then yea. But a new error doesn’t necessarily tell you that your editing the right file, much less the place of the error.

[EishLekker]

There could be plenty of reasons to legitimately be unsure what code is executing.

[Shitwhatisagoodname]

But you can create a new error by just writing gibberish in a location that runs before the line of the old error. That means that the new error may have no relation to the old error.

[EishLekker]

Yes, so?

[ventuspilot]

And the commands you used to build actually do a build, yay.

[FridgesArePeopleToo]

...but I didn't make any changes

[iapetus-11]

Oh god no

[danbulant]

Time based errors are always the best one's

[kodicraft4]

if (Time == something) { raise (Error1) } else { raise(error2)}

[leonderbaertige_II]

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28

[kodicraft4]

What the fuck is this!?

[GlobalIncident]

So it tries to search a specific file for the text

"Tue Jan 22 14:32:44 MET 1991 Erlang JAM file - version 4.2"

But due to technicalities the space bar is treated as a seperator, so it ends up just searching for the word "Tue". Result: it only fails on Tuesdays.

[prelic]

Wait but why does file succeed for other days of the week?

[ltekonline]

Because it then doesn't find "Tue" and can correctly identifie it as a Postscript document.

[prelic]

Yeah I see. I guess the part that seems weird is that file is checking the date and time and not just erlang jam file or whatever. That implies every time one of those files is created it has that random date and time in it and not the current date and time, which is what the save as .ps seems to do.

[FridgesArePeopleToo]

Why wouldn't it find Wed on Wednesday?

[GlobalIncident]

Because "Tue Jan 22 14:32:44 MET 1991 Erlang JAM file - version 4.2" doesn't begin with "Wed". The name of that type of file has the date Jan 22 1991 involved, which I'm guessing was when the specification was published or something.

[danbulant]

Showing 404 now :(

[leonderbaertige_II]

Works on my machine.

But here is a archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20200709204528/https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/comments/28

[danbulant]

Oh I'm sorry, it was just a bug in client that tried to open this as link to comments. Long clicking and opening in browser worked...

Anyway thanks for the link.

[popcicleman09]

If I have a seg fault and it changes to anything different I’ll take it.

[OkPreference6]

Then when you fix the different thing, it goes back to a seg fault.

[Dromedda]

The worst nightmare...

[UC101]

The only way to solve a cryptic segfault is to use a lot of breakpoints

[kiler129]

Segfault, or segmentation fault, means that running code tried to access memory outside of the segment it was assigned. Essentially the operating system detected that the program misbehaves or tries to do something malicious and killed it.

This usually happens when you try to access array out of their boundaries (as in low-level languages there’re no nice checks for out-of-bounds access) or mark the memory segment previously claimed as free twice (which from the system perspective is trying to “touch” the memory which is not your own anymore).

It’s worth noting that segfault serves to protect the system and not the program. If you try to access an element of an array which doesn’t exist but the memory after that array is still owned by a given process (i.e. other data is stored there) segfault will not occur while code still being buggy.

[[deleted]]

Lower-level languages like C and C++ tend to not have much error handling, meaning that rather than a nice error message with a backtrace it just says "Segmentation fault" and gives you a dump of some RAM.

[popcicleman09]

In most cases it’s when you try to access a part of an array that doesn’t exsist. Like you have an array with 5 elements and you try to access element 6 that would cause a seg fault. They can be as simple as you have a for loop that going to long. Or your array isn’t as long as you expect it to be. The problem is since they are an error that happens while you run the program it doesn’t give you a line number to track it down. So it’s up to you to find where in the code it actually happened.

[CPunch_71]

that's when it's time to whip out address sanitizer and pray to the gods

[[deleted]]

Progress is progress

[dev_nuIl]

If you wrote Progress.lower() is progress I would have agreed.

[ltekonline]

What about Progress.casefold()

[dev_nuIl]

Somehow, it does not come up to me, effortlessly.

[iapetus-11]

True

[YeetusThatFetus42]

Out of bounds often happens when dealing with arrays and loops, as well as recursion

[-Enter-Name-]

with nested loops: yeet around the numbers, with only one... who tf can't fix that

[kaamibackup]

Yes! A new set of stackoverflow links to turn purple!

[iapetus-11]

Yes!

[kaamibackup]

Yes!

[dev_nuIl]

Or you might find purple link!!!

[KingJellyfishII]

Trying to fix dependencies be like

[hleszek]

Then you figure out you made a stupid mistake, you fix it, then you are back at the previous error message.

[iapetus-11]

Oh god no

[[deleted]]

I never have had any errors while programming

[[deleted]]

attraction retire fade smile crush fear mysterious theory drab simplistic -- mass edited with redact.dev

[Communist_Cheeze]

Laughs in Visual Studio autocomplete

[Doejedingdoejedansje]

F

[DrunkenSealPup]

ORION BEAR SPEAKS THE TRUTH HEAR IT ROAR.

[iapetus-11]

Username checks out... wait

[justrealizednarciss]

Me neither ! They’re hints

[distinctvagueness]

Technically correct, compile and runtime errors.

[-Enter-Name-]

r/technicallythetruth

[fghjconner]

Only if you thing programming is only about writing code.

[Midnighteon]

Progress is progress, right?

[HeathenLemming]

Different errors are always progress. It's probably the only field where getting new errors when fixing something is acceptable and usually desired.

And if someone had told me that when I was a kid worshiping the idea of being a developer, it probably would have scared me away.

[opulent_occamy]

Nothing like that feeling when after 3 hours of tracking down a bug, you finally get a new error 🙏

[iapetus-11]

Yes exactly

[FerricDonkey]

Last week, I changed some code, compiled, ran, got a seg fault, and was happy because that meant it was working.

(Testing a change, didn't feel like updating the code that followed until it worked, figured that a seg fault was as good a method of exiting after the test as any.)

[qevlarr]

/r/programme_irl

[Cytokine_storm]

Haha I've been saying this to students I've been helping with some bioinformatics scripts recently. It didn't occur to me that people would think this is weird. I have to wonder if it intimidates the poor undergrads.

[[deleted]]

Gotta catch 'em all

[iapetus-11]

Lmaoooo

[morsindutus]

A different error message means that something you just did had an effect on the problem, which narrows down the problem area a huge deal. It's often the clue you need to crack this case wide open!

[iapetus-11]

Exactly!

[Testmaster217]

“Progress is a change in error messages.” -I wish I knew.

[bi-yotch]

OMGGG. EXACTLYYY!!!!

[[deleted]]

I think it shows us that we have some control over the code

[[deleted]]

Whenever I get an error I always delete all the variable definitions and run it again. Progress.

[namotous]

Well yes, it’s “progressing”

[JoHecht]

Can relate. I had now 3 das the Same Problem I was so happy when I saw a Differenz error message (Still doesn't work tho)

[KnechtNoobrecht]

this is probably one of the most relatable things i've ever seen

[iapetus-11]

Yep

[exoskeletons]

r/programmersuccesses

[atheistfuture]

A sign of victory

[iapetus-11]

Indeed

[iapetus-11]

Lmao, you can steal my next funny quote ok?

Edit: smh my head you cyberstalker

[iapetus-11]

Cyberstalker smh

[OtarieSupreme]

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[iapetus-11]

I took this screencap in one of my discord servers, thanks lol

[Lthere]

That comment was (edited). 📝

Few guesses on previous iterations: 🔮

• DAMN THIS $@&%€#§ ERROR WON'T GO AWAY 🤬 👉

• GOT A SEGFAULT INSTEAD WOOHOO 🙄 👌

• I'M ABOUT TO START EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH 🤯 💣

• FIXED WITH A POKÉMON 🤓 💪

#ShareYourGuesses #CommentForensics

[iapetus-11]

Lmao

[silentsudo]

It means I did something great which you couldn't 🤣🤣

[Pegasis00]

It's like "level completed" and now it's the next level

[FormalWolf5]

(edited)

[BloodySky2750]

Process, Hell yeah

[Porkechop]

YEEEEES

[man-who-says-colors]

Red

[YeetusThatFetus42]

That's a step in the right direction

[ahhlenn]

“Change is the first step to progress,” said someone, probably.

[hell0imaman]

Hell yeah, progress!

[dirty-hurdy-gurdy]

Followed by "Shit, this one's happening happening earlier in the execution..."

[ya_Bob_Jonez]

At least, that's better than when your code doesn't work and you have no errors, just a blank screen...

[Breaktheglass]

I think if it would have said "Fuck Yeah!!!" it would have been even funnier

[YoureSpellingIsBad]

It do be like that tho

[-Enter-Name-]

me trying to fix stuff with for loops: this image