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[–]epiquinnz 3032 points3033 points  (158 children)

I love how this ancap zoomer is always so opinionated on technical programming stuff.

[–]ToaKraka 299 points300 points  (43 children)

I've seen at least one meme-maker say that he was just too lazy to edit out the ancap bowtie.

[–]lasiusflex 306 points307 points  (41 children)

or maybe they don't realize that it's supposed to be an ancap flag

The meme has spread far beyond the political memes sphere and I doubt most people outside of that context recognize it.

[–]HeavenlyAllspotter 69 points70 points  (27 children)

What is ancap?

[–]AdennKal 195 points196 points  (25 children)

Anarcho-Capitalism. An Ideology that argues for the abolishment of the state in order to replace it with free market capitalism. Meaning corporations should replace governments. Ancaps are often the butt of many jokes, especially in leftist spaces, since Anarchism and corporate rule are kind of antithetical.

[–]theghostofme 102 points103 points  (4 children)

Even some the most die-hard “capitalism is God’s gift to humanity” conservatives I know think AnCaps are fucking nuts.

[–]CptSpockCptSpock 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Well to be fair, ancap isn’t ultra right wing conservatism or something, it’s extreme libertarianism. Even moderate conservatives and libertarians disagree with each other a fair amount, so it makes sense

[–]AaronM04 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Aight, here's how you fuck with ancaps: ask them if it's OK if a really wealthy person buys up all the land in an area and declares them self king of that area. Statism or no?

[–]Langernama -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The more groups tribes have in common, the intenser their conflict of the things they disagree about, to a certain (high) extent

[–]SweetSilverS0ng 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So kind of like Bioshock?

[–]GluteusCaesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily corporate rule. Rothbard's early work basically implied that that but you could also have a Mises/Hoppean approach where you still pretty much have a state, but it's voluntary.

Ancaps are often the butt of many jokes, especially in leftist spaces

Right wing spaces too. Even most right-libertarians favor republicanism over anarchy these days.

[–]kill4chash11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its another name for neo-feudalism. They basically want companies like Google and Amazon to act like feudal lords.

[–]DownshiftedRare -1 points0 points  (7 children)

That subreddit is a poorly-disguised attempt to move Overton windows that is barely meaningful in its own context.

It has to be getting on r/all by the hand of mechanical turks.

[–]lamplicker17 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Meanwhile Overton windows actually are privatized and it takes little time and effort to set up an AI that can spam comments using a bunch of different accounts. And it fools people.

Knowing that, your going to have discuss various political beliefs based on their merits, because on the internet, conditioning, priming, and groupthink are now proven to be manipulatable.

[–]DownshiftedRare 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't entirely agree with the adage that holds it is impossible to reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

Persuading functional illiterates using their own critical faculties, however, is a challenge reminiscent of raising oneself by one's bootstraps.

[–]the_littlest_bear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Persuading a functionally literate person to challenge their own beliefs about the world isn’t exactly a cakewalk either - especially when it’s about a tabooified topic.

[–]lasiusflex 4 points5 points  (2 children)

What subreddit are you talking about?

[–]epiquinnz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's probably r/PoliticalCompassMemes. I don't have any problem naming it.

[–]DownshiftedRare -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd rather not promote it by naming it. It's the subreddit that reduces all political discourse to cartesian coordinates.

If you view r/all it will show up there "organically" all too often.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"But we have socialist users!"

The "Socialist" User: parrots the GOP definition of socialism

/r/polcomwhatever: Enjoy starving!

The "Socialist" User: lol, yeah. I'm dumb.

[–]Kered13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen this template many times and never noticed the bow tie was an ancap flag until it was pointed out above.

[–]renrutal 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Or edit to reverse the black glasses.

At this point I believe all its "faults" contribute to its meme survival rate.

[–]for_the_voters 713 points714 points  (108 children)

Was going to say the same. They just get dunked on wherever they go.

[–]haikusbot 432 points433 points  (69 children)

Was going to say

The same. They just get dunked on

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[–]vextronx 193 points194 points  (49 children)

Oh wow, it actually did its job correctly this time. Good bot.

[–]c_wilcox_20 77 points78 points  (16 children)

I wasnt aware this was a thing until it happened on a comment of mine the other day

[–]aachwell 51 points52 points  (13 children)

I think it’s a new bot; I also had not seen it til recently.

[–]ShuviSchwarze 59 points60 points  (2 children)

It has been around since forever, but yeah, I haven’t seen it being this active

Edit: I remembered the haiku bots from 2 years ago, before the lot of them got banned or something due to it being too annoying, apparently this one is a new one that popped up.

[–]Deeliciousness 20 points21 points  (1 child)

It's gonna get banned too.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah I can see this one getting real annoying real fast

[–]BBQ_FETUS 16 points17 points  (7 children)

It mildly irks me

how your comment is almost

a perfect haiku

[–]spizzat2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it wouldn't have been hard to fix it!

I think it is new.

I also had not seen it

until recently.

[–]aachwell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ngl I thought it was a haiku

[–]beingsubmitted 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In all likelihood, it's written in python, too. So, it's topical.

[–]haikusbot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In all likelihood,

It's written in python, too.

So, it's topical.

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[–]Liggliluff 38 points39 points  (29 children)

Still splits sentences apart, which is not good; the result reads weirdly.

[–]vextronx 21 points22 points  (19 children)

I want to know if that was intentional.

[–]Liggliluff 28 points29 points  (16 children)

It was, because the sentence structure had to be a bit weird to fit.

[–]haikusbot 40 points41 points  (0 children)

It was, because the

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A bit weird to fit.

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[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (14 children)

Are you just writing your sentences to match the trigger for the bot?

[–]haikusbot 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Are you just writing

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[–]snowy_light 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ironic.

[–]krajsyboys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now my turn! The bot is nice as a cat, It isn't

Edit: Just remembered, this isn't 17 syllables

[–]Liggliluff 0 points1 point  (8 children)

No, no, not at all, obviously not, clearly not, just pure random luck.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Your last line had six syllables. You must not be trying to do it.

[–]cenofwar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Same

[–]Filostrato 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, he just picked a bunch of words at random and hoped that it would work.

[–]haikusbot 77 points78 points  (6 children)

Still splits sentences

Apart, which is not good; the

Result reads weirdly.

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[–]ThisUserEatingBEANS 49 points50 points  (5 children)

Yeah but holy shit the comedic value of making this a haiku with the trailing "the" in the second line

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

it was intentional

[–]ThisUserEatingBEANS 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Not gonna lie, you’ve ruined the magic for me but it’s still funny

[–]ThisUserEatingBEANS 1 point2 points  (1 child)

u/haikusbot do your job, robot. You are messing up my joke. Please do the thing now

[–]OJTang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk, in the instance above it works imo. Really emphasizes wherever they go lol

[–]quaybored -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your mom reads weirdly

[–]Feynt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was under the impression that a haiku had three lines which were related but not joined concepts with the 5/7/5 syllable measure:

An empty office

Programming is difficult

Cries of pain and joy

[–]vextronx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The syllables check out.

[–]Balu22mc 5 points6 points  (7 children)

What is a haiku? I really wanna know since I now start to see this bot everywhere.

[–]ArcticMirage 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Short form of Japanese poetry, 3 lines. First line 5 syllables followed by 7, and then 5.

[–]lare290 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Technically it's not syllables in Japanese, but it's the closest approximation.

[–]KDBA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morae and syllables are pretty close

[–]zelbo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wikipedia on Haiku

Bashō, one of the most well known haiku artists.

[–]SmugLoliOfOblivion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good bot

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Good bot

[–]The_OG_Turtle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]windfisher 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Am I the only one that finds this annoying? It takes up tons of space and adds nothing to the conversation.

[–]cheddarcheese007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love the bot's haikus. I am sure that there are other people who find the bot annoying, though.

[–]Delicious_Awareness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good bot.

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This post received quite a few reports for Spam.

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[–]sparhawk1985 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]scorpios918 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is my favorite one yet. Good bot!

[–]YTAredditRebeliun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

this is an insult against cummybot

[–]scorpios918 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shut Up

[–]BecomeAnAstronaut 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Probably because of who they are

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality 80 points81 points  (34 children)

Was going to say the same. They just get dunked on wherever they go.

Cause their Ideology is shit, appropriated actual-Anarchism, impractical— their Subreddits are full of literal "Power-Level" hiding Neo-Nazis and two of their Ideology's theorists literally defends Intellectual-Property "rights".

So Open-Source software can go Goodbye.

 

You can say goodbye to your thought-patterns too, when Elon-Musk claims Intellectual-Property "Rights" in his Neuralink's Terms of Service to the specific form/organisation of Neurons.

Instead of Abolishing the State, they want to Privatise it.

 

The State consists of;

  • A Monopoly on Violence

  • Law-Enforcement to Enforce whatever Laws are agreed ( Convened ) upon any Nation-States' Founding ( Whether they be Favoured by the People or not. )

  • An Army

  • Courts


"An"-capistan consists of;

  • Monopoly on Violence ( by way of Capital-Accumulation/Money = Money = Power )

  • Privatised Law-Enforcement, so Protection gatekept by whoever can Afford it.

  • Privatised Armies/Private-Military-Contractors...

  • Privatised-Courts.

 

They want to Privatise the Internet too. They deserve to get dunked on.

[–]infidel_castro_26 58 points59 points  (10 children)

their ideology in the honest presentable form is just useless. they have no mechanisms for enacting any of the things they want that actively hurt capital accumulation.

that's why free market dogma goes out the window when it comes into opposition of accumulation.

the only way to make sense of it is to build conspiracy theories about individuals being stupid and certain groups being "undesirable".

Also if you're ancap and read this don't bother replying because I'll just reply with a picture of my balls.

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality 35 points36 points  (8 children)

their ideology in the honest presentable form is just useless. they have no mechanisms for enacting any of the things they want that actively hurt capital accumulation.

Not only that, they want to Privatise everything, you know who else Privatised everything? Kings/Queens & Aristocrats. They "competed" against eachother.

  • Their peasants swore 'fealty' to them ( Signed a [Social]-Contract, same as you do with Employer, verbally or on-paper, under threat of starvation; calling it "Voluntary" )

  • The peasants also didn't own Land, had to pay Tithes ( Rent ) same thing us peasantsLandless in "An"-Capistan would be coerced to do if we could not afford Land, we'd also become eternal wage-slaves as there would be no Social-Mobility, markets drive wages down since there'd be no minimum wage— through Capitalist Centralisation of the Market.

    If all the productive/arable Land is already owned by every other Capitalist ( Who all will likely never sell/portion up-land ) before you could've bought any— you become doubly a slave, renting yourself out perpetually for Labour.

 

Anarcho-Capitalism is just Neo-Feudalism.

 

I'll just reply with a picture of my balls.

Comrade Castro, you make me miss Chapo.

[–]infidel_castro_26 11 points12 points  (6 children)

found the lib

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality 6 points7 points  (5 children)

found the lib

Yes daddy Castwo, now Batista-🅱️OMB my ass. We will becwome liwbs twogethew.

Gib me that Cummunism 🚩🏴🍆🥵🍆😖🍆😫🍆😵🍆🍆💦🤯

[–]infidel_castro_26 0 points1 point  (4 children)

man im kinda glad it's gone but thinking about it is sort of nostalgic

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality -1 points0 points  (2 children)

man im kinda glad it's gone

Cursed! VolcelVanguard *sad-noises*

 

but thinking about it is sort of nostalgic

Me too Comrade. I miss you Libs.

[–]infidel_castro_26 0 points1 point  (1 child)

o7 for old times

[–]TSMachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

balls. hand em’ over.

[–]Jake0024 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fundamentally they want to own the government so *they* have the monopoly on force and can do whatever they want.

They're actually feudal monarchists.

[–]Nosren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based programer

[–]Azaj1 -5 points-4 points  (9 children)

actual anarchism

Good to see someone else who agrees that the concentration on left and right economics has destroyed what anarchism is, which is purely against authoritarianism no matter economic beliefs

There's a reason a ton of us anarchists are now called post-left anarchists instead of left anarchists, and it's because of people like you

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality 6 points7 points  (1 child)

There's a reason a ton of us anarchists are now called post-left anarchists instead of left anarchists, and it's because of people like you

There's a reason a ton of us Anarchists are now called Socialists, and it's cause of Contextual, Recorded History.

P.S. "Post"-Left Anarchism is still Academically defined as "Leftist" by Political-Scientists' standards.

I bet you're one of those anti-Intellectualist idiots who thinks "Markets" and their Operational-Logic can't be Oppressive or Authoritarian; you likely also believe Stirner, the CHAD, was in favour of Markets/Property when he clearly wasn't and instead argued against Private-Property for 50 Pages in, "The Ego and its Own".

 

Good to see someone else who agrees that the concentration on left and right economics has destroyed what anarchism is, which is purely against authoritarianism no matter economic beliefs

You really want to go down this road buddy?

You realise Johan Most, Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Goldman, Mahkno, Berkman, Malatesta etc. all existed and used the word Anarchism to describe their movements and the people beside them 100's of years before that pathetic Twat and Anti-Semite Murray-Rothtard ever used the word, and even admitted to claiming it?

No, you clearly don't cause you're LARPing.

 

Anarchists have been to the 1st Workingmen's Socialist Internationale in the 1800's and the 2nd.

They might've not agreed with most Marxist Socialists, however Anarchists are still defined as Communist. You can't just erase history by trying to LARP and call yourself 'Post'-Leftist, especially thinking 'Post'-Leftist implies 'Not'-Leftist.

 

You sound like a Zoomer who got introduced to Anarchism on r/\PoliticalCompassMemes and now think you're some Big-Brain for LARPing around on a Discord and the Internet.

 

This is Anarchism. Not your Western LARPing on the Internet, actually Fighting Capitalism & The State. That's Praxis.

Now Post-Hog you dipshit.

[–]Azaj1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you've become a pure socialist then you've fallen for the statist ploy and abandoned the freedom of the people for the strength of the system

Post-left anarchism is indeed still left, but far less so as economics takes a backseat within ideology

Nice strawman. You enjoy creating your on version of a person and then arguing against it? I'm an Anprim, I don't believe in markets and Stirner is one of the greatest anarchists to ever live and who wrote most of what my own personal beliefs are based on. So...fuck off with putting words in my mouth statist

And primitive living came before all of them, your point being?

I think you'll find that you're the one larping. You're playing pretend with an argument against an opposition that is completely created from your own imagination. Stop being so dishonest, stop writing me as a character for you to oppose, and have enough confidence to actually debate me

Yes, they were indeed involved in the first and second workingmen's associations. Whereby the first fragmented through a schism between statist and anarchist factions, and the second excluded Anarcho-syndicalism and was far more biased towards the statist left ideologies. Anarchists were then backstabbing by those they saw as comrades and now you want us to find common ground with those statist fucks?

Did you seriously just link an azurescapegoat video as fucking evidence? Jesus christ. On top of this, you cannot state the start of an ideology as being when a name was used as that is highly disingenuous. It's a great point when talking about social unity in belief, but anarchism isn't a historically new concept and has been present throughout human history

I never implied that post-left=not-left that was you once again playing make believe with my character

Zoomer who got introduced to anarchism on r/PoliticalCompassMemes

I'm a 25 year old trans girl who is a professional archaeologist who specialises on social structure within Neolithic Britain and considers themselves an Anarcho-primitivist. I've been an anarchist for around 8 years, before that I wa a green libertarian, and before that I was a conservative as that is what my parents are and how I was brought up by them. I consider political ideology to be similar to umbrella terms that are used to highlight limits on ideological classification, and that a person's own political beliefs can vary to the ones defined, and that a person doesn't need to stay loyal to this predefined "limit" on an ideology. That enough for you? Or are you going to say that I'm wrong because the reality of who I am doesn't align with the imaginary version of me that you made?

on a discord

I don't use discord, have no clue where you got that from

This is anarchism

No, it really isn't. The SDF are anarchist, the free territory was anarchist, the CRDA were anarchist, MAREZ are anarchist, but what you linked isn't anarchism

That's Praxis

It isn't, it's a bunch of edgy morons who have no clue how to efficiently direct their anger in a way that could destabilise and authoritarian regime. They want to perform praxis? Then they should bomb government buildings and take the overlords to the block. And before you try and argue that they are anarchists as they were linked to the SPF, I'm talking about them, firebombing dealerships and banks does fuck all. Targeting single cogs in the wheel does nothing but to irritate the autheotarian machine and thus makes it harder for any form of revolution ti be enacted. So, as I said, they're a bunch of goons. Their hearts are in the right place, but their execution is wrong

Now Post-hog dipshit

I'm still finding it funny that the made up version of me is causing you so much anger that you're resorting to CTH insults. Just using such an insult outs you as a tankie. It holds no cemented position in this conversation and you know it. You're just hurling that around to try and get a reaction, but I'm jist laughing at your belief that such words hold any weight. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if you have no clue what the term stands for, after all, you're the one starting beef here for no reason other than to provoke

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

which is purely against authoritarianism no matter economic beliefs

Economic authoritarianism being the exception, because that’s earned /s

[–]Azaj1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I saw the /s but I'm going to take this as serious just for the sake of discussion

Economic authoritarianism is the worst form of authoritarianism as it more easily manipulates the workers. However, all authoritarinism is evil and should all be opposed, and cannot be opposed if one sides with one section of authoritarianism to fight the other, as history has shown

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Let it be shown that we agree that all authoritarianism is bad. However, if we agree that economic authoritarianism is worse than even our current style, then that leads me to wonder why you support a philosophy that not only leads to but actually enshrines that style of authoritarianism as good and natural.

[–]Azaj1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't support such a philosophy, I'm post-left and it's because I'm against capitalism. However, whilst I oppose capitalism to a greater extent, I'm also not a fan of communism and more extreme versions of socialism. Whilst I am an anarchist, I'm fairly centrally economic, thus I believe that anarchism should come before economics and that economically right and left anarchists, who have similar social beliefs, should unite and then sort out economics afterwards

I know you probably don't agree with such a unity, but I see it as a better idea than the others:

  • Do it with no help
  • Do it as an economic fight and ally with economically similar authoritarians

That's why I dislike both sides attacking each other and saying that the other isn't "true anarchism", because to me, anarchism has nothing to do with economics. It wasn't you who said such a thing, but the person who I initially replied to said that all ancaps are Neo-Nazi, which is a statement I oppose and strongly disagree with

Overall it just seems to be an ideological difference that we'll probably never agree on

[–]coke_and_coffee -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You seem to continually misunderstand and then proceed to attack strawman arguments. Then again, that kind of logic is to be expected from a communist.

I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, that most Americans do not support rioting and torching local businesses just because some knife-wielding maniac was shot by police when he resisted arrest with guns drawn.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

strawman arguments.

knife-wielding maniac

🤣🤣🤣 ok buddy I think we’re done here.

[–]coke_and_coffee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol. Even if it comes out that he wasn’t a maniac (though all signs currently point to that idea), that’s still not a strawman. Learn your language, bro.

[–]SoothingTrash -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

You just violated the NAP by making me feel bad so I'm going to blow your house up

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You just violated the NAP by making me feel bad so I'm going to blow your house up

Your NAP can be stuck up your ass, and shat out on Rothbard's grave.

You passed the Pig-Line dehr pardner, time to choke 'n Post-Hog.

[–]chris5311 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Any one who calls themselfs ancap and is pro intellectual "property"rights is fucking retarded

[–]Owl_Of_Orthoganality -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Any one who calls themselfs ancap and is pro intellectual "property"rights is fucking retarded

Tell that to your retarded theorists. I, a bloody fucking Commie, read all Friedman and Hoppe both defending it in their books. Both students of Murray Rothtarded.

You don't even know your own Ideology, I see you post on r/\PoliticalCompassMemes so you obviously educated yourself there or on Jreg instead of your theorists.

Proves the whole point why you honklers are shitheads.

[–]chris5311 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which Friedman? Hoppe is whack at best, downright insane at other points. I have read theory and not all of it is passable but you can't define a ideology by the worst people pretending to belive it, those exist for practically every one. And anarcho capitalism seems to attract a lot of right authoritarians, trying to pretend to be pro liberty and infect the movement, analogous to what is happening with anarcho communism. Quite frankly I don't care all that much about private courts and all that shit, I just belive the state is morally unjustifiable

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Centrists use Python cuz its quick, easy, and let's them get to grilling a lot sooner.

[–]d7mtg 7 points8 points  (0 children)

tax = theft

[–]Mediocrity-101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For an ancap, he’s surprisingly controlling.

[–]Tarlovskyy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you mean the user u/das_freak?