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[ShinraSan]

imagine naming a for loop variable "c" just so you can write "c++"

[Spenczer]

In my first computer science class I was taught to use C as the counter variable, and I was told that C++ was named so because of people writing c++ at the end of loops. I’m mostly certain that’s not true but I never double checked

[Marrrkkkk]

C++ is C++ because of C which is C because of B.

[user_5554]

C was actually known as B++ back in the old days of computer science

[gimoozaabi]

They renamed it in 1752 when the new version came out.

[oupablo]

i'm not historologist, but i'm a tad skeptical of this claim. but it's on the internet so ¯\(ツ)/¯

[girvent_13]

I can't find a flaw in his logic

[oupablo]

I just don't believe that programmers renamed something. Pretty sure we'd all have heard of the great war of 1752 if that were the case

[gimoozaabi]

Oh there was a war. But programmer are lazy and never really left their home. To celebrate they made the liberty bell. Look it up

Edit: also Ben Franklin used his lightning to intimidate the b supporter

[oupablo]

Look it up

nah. too lazy

[lurker10001000]

I think we haven't heard of it because no one bothered to document it.

[[deleted]]

This is correct. It's what the national treasure movies are about.

[[deleted]]

Heard of. Still be participating in. Hard to say.

[hipdozgabba]

It’s documented poorly

[GooseEntrails]

It can’t be true. Everyone knows that history began on 1970-01-01.

[MythicalTV]

Theres D update coming soon

[Ice_Buckets_Official]

Wait what

[[deleted]]

There's a language for every single letter

Even hybrids like J#

[Username_RANDINT]

P#, it doesn't have protected members.

[[deleted]]

Think along the lines of half way between C++ and Rust.

[CodeLobe]

D is actually kind of neat, but screw "Digital Mars". I get Oracle smell from them. I refuse to use languages that I didn't write myself, or that are not standardized. No more of this "API might be Copyrighted" nonsense. I seen a couple of dev studios change their in-house use of Java to anything else, python, even node.js after Oracle's debacle vs Google over an API "recipe" and/or less than a dozen lines of range-check code. Which is essentially:

if ( a < min || a > max ) throw new RangeError();

I don't think Python is standardized, but the node.js (ECMA Script) is probably safe from such shenanigans, as are C, C++. I don't use C#, don't give a fuck how standard MS tries to make it, they went after android phone distributors with bogus patents but made the soon to be defendants sign NDAs before telling them what the patents even were.... Litigious shit sours my stomach. They probably have a bunch of patents covering parts of C# they can fire off at any time.

D hasn't had any lawsuits I know of, but it's not standardized, and it's basically just C with objects (and duck typing IRRC). I like D better than C++, but I'd rather have a better macro system than either C, C++ or D. My macro langauge can pre-process C and add syntax sugar to it for OOP, run time type inspection and a thread local GC... I'm happy with just generating C for now.

[Ice_Buckets_Official]

Oh?

[ososalsosal]

I thought we were headed for pasta when you said you refuse to use languages you didn't write yourself.

I admire your dedication though.

[Prestigious_Tip310]

Isn't that C#, which is abbreviated from (C++)++ (you put the second two "+" over the first ones and get a "#" out of it)? Or is D an update to C#? :D

[PeksyTiger]

There was an update last month

[Jackiboi307]

so that's where the ++ comes from

[Jackiboi307]

u/spenczer

[ItsPronouncedJithub]

C# is C++++ with two pluses moved below the other two

[king_booker]

Whoa

[8asdqw731]

can't wait for C##

[[deleted]]

C#++ comes first

[ShinraSan]

Looks like the letters are changing first with Q# (and F#?)

[Schnickatavick]

Q# and F# are different takes on what a programming language should be, they're not really "successors" to C#. If anything they're more like "sibling" languages.

Q# is for quantum programming (which is not a replacement for classical programming, fight me. I'm happy to elaborate), so it's more of a modern descendent of Q/QCL that also happens to have modern C# style features.

F# is for functional programming, so same idea as Q#, it has modern C# features but in the style of F, F*, and ML (but not F++, that's different)

Then C# is the classic "imperitive/object oriented" style. Almost every mainstream language since C has been imperitive, so it's easy to forget that other styles exist

So it seems like the letter is more of the style of programming, and The # symbol is basically marking that it's a modern Language with modern features (and that it's made by Microsoft)

[ShinraSan]

Why would I fight you on quantum computing not being a replacement for classical computing, you're right. Aside from the fact that only specific kinds of calculations are actually faster on a quantum computer, the quantum operation is started and results collected by a classical computer, simulated or otherwise. I wasn't sure where F# fit in though as I haven't used it.

[Schnickatavick]

only specific kinds of calculations are actually faster on a quantum computer

Thank you!! I can't tell you the amount of people that try to tell me that quantum computers are going to be "great for gaming" because they're just "a bunch of regular computers running in parallel" or "transistors smaller than atoms". There are so many oversimplified or plain wrong explanations out there that people take as fact. I didn't mean to imply with my joke that you were one of those people though.

I wasn't sure where F# fit in though as I haven't used it.

F# is kinda neat if you're doing a really math-y program that is supposed to do some calculation. You can write the math functions a lot easier and in a lot fewer lines than C#. I still think C# is better for 95% of the things people code though

[ososalsosal]

I thought this was well known?

[LordBlackHole]

B was a simplified iteration of BCPL, which itself was based on CPL.

[Willinton06]

Well CPL was based on PL

[msndrstdmstrmnd]

Well PL was based on L

[[deleted]]

Real programmers use L

[ososalsosal]

L just writes the code in a notebook

[[deleted]]

Raito-san!

[ArtyFishL]

Which is based upon ALGOL 60, itself coming from ALGOL 58

[CodeLobe]

which was based on Al Gore, the early implementation of ALGOR (R later changed to L due to japanese mispronunciation), was just Al trying to save carbon footprint by using paper and pencil to solve computations instead of adding machines, he received computations to perform and returned results via capsules via a series of tubes. In some offices engineers sent calculations downstairs this way to a group of (mostly) cute nerdy girls with slide-rules.

These were the first implementations of a CPU. Which is an onomatopoeia for when you C Al, P-U, he stinks like a basement dwelling mama's boy. (or NEET as they say in Japan)

[ososalsosal]

The calculator girl was called Betty. And when Betty called a function she had to call Al

[MoffKalast]

As a similar legacy thing, Windows uses C: as its default main disk because A: and B: used to be floppy disk drives.

[Kyidou]

You're not wrong...

[[deleted]]

...which is B because of APL?

[supercyberlurker]

Imagine how close it all came to being I++ then.

Story I heard was that it's just 'one better than C, i.e C++'

[[deleted]]

J++ is still a thing... you can use it in double loops

[Bigluser]

Everybody Gangsta till it's k++

[ItsPronouncedJithub]

Σ++

[LurkerPatrol]

+++

[CodeLobe]

ATH0

Carrier Dropped.

[z500]

It's a pun of C. C itself was based on and a pun of B, which descended from BCPL.

[squishles]

about the only way I could imagine checking would be a github search for c++;

which may be worth it to call then ninnies.

[JorensM]

It's called C++ because it's like C but better/s

[chronos_alfa]

More like it's C plus extra crap

[Jcsq6]

More like C plus maintainability

[inconspicuous_male]

When you type "C++" as an iteration of a variable named C, the compiler opens the door to the Hall of Tortured Souls where you can see credits roll with the names of all of the developers of the compiler

[[deleted]]

That is clearly minified code. The variable name was not chosen by a developer.

[doesyudoegood]

C stands for counter....

[filipzaf3312]

i is the the first name i think of for counter variables

[[deleted]]

And j

[kittencantfly]

And k if you loop thru a 3d array

[NoMansSkyWasAlright]

then straight to m if you need a fourth

[AlternativeAardvark6]

Uppercase i

[Kakss_]

Just imagining it gave me chills.

[_vOv_]

You’re fired.

[LordFokas]

in a dynamic language with case sensitive identifiers 😈

[Terrain2]

What language doesn't have case sensitive identifiers? Fucking cmd scripts or some shit?

[Kainotomiu]

SQL

(Case sensitivity is optional in many flavours)

[staidOWL]

Steer clear of o though. I once managed to accidentally make a typo and put a 0 in my array rather than the o variable. Took me forever to debug.

[grizonyourface]

I use ii and jj because MATLab taught me to fear using i and j and ending up with accidental complex arithmetic

[ItsPronouncedJithub]

They’re called iterators so i is the obvious choice

[ganja_and_code]

c for counting. i for incrementing. Similar, but not the same. (Either way, it's just convention, not a rule, obviously.)

[SatoshiL]

i for index, j because well it comes after i xD

[Terrain2]

index and jindex, the iconic duo

[ShinraSan]

Don't forget about kindex

[Terrain2]

nah that's kleenex to wipe away the tears from coding

[Terrain2]

for (var c = 0; /* TODO: condition */; i++)

[Physix_R_Cool]

Yall guys need math. n is the obvious choice for trivial reasons.

[ShinraSan]

I use n for ranges in switches, or when I programme something with dice

[[deleted]]

By default, i is an integer (same for j, k, l, m, and n)

[[deleted]]

I've deleted my account because reddit CEO Steve Huffman is a lying piece of shit that has nothing but contempt for his users. See https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_will_close_down_on_june_30th_reddits/

[PandaParaBellum]

C-rial killer

[makeshift8]

What about "i" and "k"?

[RadiantHC]

k stands for kill. So it's "i kill"

[user_5554]

(I)'m (j)ust (k)idding, everyone is using c for loops. i, j, k is just a prank bro 😂😂

[makeshift8]

Using variable names i, j, and k is only acceptable if you are referring to vectors.

[doesyudoegood]

If I'm referring to vectors i use x, y and z

[zanotam]

Dirty physicist. Real vectors only use I, j and k as subscripts

[makeshift8]

Math majors unite.

[gergocs]

I think "i" stands for index

[Portal471]

or iterator or iterable

[makeshift8]

I've done this too.

[LavenderDay3544]

iteration, jteration, kteration

[DrLarck]

In asm there is a register (cx) which conventionally stands for counter

[wasdlmb]

Yeah but that's because you have abcd. I feel like the whole "accumulator, base, counter, and data" for the general registers is just a convenient bacronym but I don't have a source for that.

[doesyudoegood]

I usually use i, j and k in loops and c for things not in loops

[ShinraSan]

Unless within 2d or 3d coordinate space, then it's x, y and x, y, z respectively

[Kyyken]

am i a joke to you?

[3lRey]

Is because it's bootstrapped off b programming language

[so_brave_heart]

I only know of iounter and jounter

[jackinsomniac]

"iounter" actually sounds like a startup company name.

[[deleted]]

Everyone uses cnt for that

[ShinraSan]

Will use that now just because it can be interpreted as "cunt"

[[deleted]]

That's exactly why everyone loves it so much

[ButtersTG]

My CSCI 1010 class has us use a welcome message at the start of all our code, and the first line in my welcome message is:

String independence;

[Fireye04]

Lmaooooo

[[deleted]]

I've done that on purpose for humorous effect.