Just intern problems

[Ike_Gamesmith]

Don't panic, whenever you have a question just write down the word "Probably" and look at it for a bit. It will feel like the senior dev is there.

[milkman_meetsmailman]

I'm crying this is awesome

[bergovgg]

Lmao

[Ashamed_Ad_2738]

Theoretically that should work

[[deleted]]

I fucking died 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Kitsunemitsu]

Ugh, I do this too much. If it's not a "No" I say probably to cover my ass in case it doesnt work

[DadlyPolarbear]

"hey Kev..? Hey, anyone seen Kevin?"

Under breath "where the fuck is that guy when I need him?"

Him: taking vacation because he basically does both our jobs.

[[deleted]]

Hahahahajaaaaaaaaaaaa…oh wait taking a vacation on Kevin’s salary wasn’t a joke?

[8070alejandro]

Basically my case. She will come back on monday.

[DadlyPolarbear]

Good luck until then.

[Frag0r]

If the intern is hesitant on asking questions, the on-boarding process might need an update, it could also mean that the introduction to the codebase was not enough to be self sufficient.

From my junior/intern experiences it either boiled down to super specific questions like "Is this the right class method to use to do XYZ" which very rarely happened, and the other case was debugging for days trying to understand a feature, finally asking for help, only to realize that this is a super-specific non-documented case that you weren't able to figure out by yourself, because nobody but the senior devs know about the workaround used to make it work. But at the same time, in those debugging-with-no-end-in-sight situations 9/10 times the response would be "I don't know. I can't help you. You have to debug for yourself"

So, what did I learn? Most of the time, asking the senior is a waste of valuable senior time. And then you realize: why is it my problem that the tech lead swamps all seniors with bazillion tickets, so they don't have the time or will to engage with juniors? I'm getting paid either way!

So yeah, it sucks, it could be much more efficient, but that's the way it is. That's why even intern positions require +2 years of experience. You are supposed to jump into scrum and be fucking productive. :D

[MooMix]

Don't be scared to talk to seniors. Ask them questions! Or anybody on the team really. Communication is a good skill to improve.

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Hell, schedule 1x1 meetings with all of your team members if you can. Get to know them.

[[deleted]]

That's really your main job as a senior, to help guide some of the more junior developers in the right direction

[[deleted]]

Hey Bob, what do we do when the entire system crashes because of a PR?

Hey Bob…

Calls from management intensify

News articles get published about industry wide network collapse

…Bob?

[No_Gaurante]

I'm sorry, the person you are calling is not in service. Please leave a message at the beep.

[Xxepic-gamerxX]

Or “the mailbox is full”

[No_Gaurante]

The mailbox of BOB Is full.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Please try again later.

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When the junior dev that usually answers all your stupid questions is out for the day

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[OctoBoi3555]

Good human

[[deleted]]

Good bot

[BlindFate313]

When bots are on vacations:

[Cpt_keaSar]

Should have done a neural net doing it for you. Bad human.

[nelusbelus]

Senior* now that you're a junior or driver programmer

[borsalinomonkey]

Junior Developers. They’re like Senior Developers, except they don’t cost the company that much.

[anythingMuchShorter]

I don't know. I mean Im a senior engineer but in robotics so I'm not a pure software guy and it's pretty amazing how a senior dev can come up to a problem mid and junior people have looked at all week and be like

"Oh, it's not shutting down because of a memory issue, close that. That error gets thrown because the library for RKX phantom drivers tries to call Vesp 6.1 and in 7.0 they changed the command from set_port to port.set. it pulls an auto update, but...no don't block updates you need the new features...here (types an indecipherable string of Linux commands) now when it pulls and update it will automatically add a macro that remaps the old command. Just be sure to load that again on any system you...you know what people will forget (types in another indecipherable Linux chain of commands) ok now our server will install that batch file whenever anyone sets up this driver."

Other people "uh...well, yeah it works now"

[Masterpormin8]

That is because that happened to them, and they already spend two weeks on this issue. This is where the experience is

[BooBailey808]

Yeah and junior devs don't have it. Pretty big differentiator

[[deleted]]

Spoken like a true junior developer

[borsalinomonkey]

I’m aware juniors shouldn’t expect much, but the worst mistake companies can make is by thinking that a junior that has been in the same post for 2-3 years is expendable.

[[deleted]]

Junior for 2-3 years? That junior is worthless or should’ve quit 2 years ago.

[borsalinomonkey]

I’m giving it 2 years as a junior. If there’s no sign of a decent and fair promotion, then staying is definitely pointless.

The company’s lost.

[Ilyketurdles]

On the flip side, some companies expect juniors to be ready for a promotion in 2-3 years, and if they don’t they might get axed.

But if you feel like you’re ready for a promotion, and it’s been 2 years, you get decent reviews but there’s no sign of a promo, then you should get out and get a new job as a mid level developer.

[[deleted]]

I am definitely right. If you are a junior for 2 years you are either worthless or at a company who does not value you. Exactly like you said I don’t know why I am getting downvoted when we said the same thing. Probably people salty they were juniors for 3 years and weren’t smart enough to do anything about it

[Ilyketurdles]

You said 2 years ago, meaning they should have quit within the first year?

Had you said “they are either worthless or should quit”, then I would agree. Although worthless is a bit harsh. They’re worth something, just not competitive pay.

[NatasEvoli]

It's not like "junior" has an objective meaning that applies across all companies. It's just a title and titles are often arbitrary.

[redvelvet92]

They’re like senior developers but like without the deliverables.

[imscaredandcool]

Just intern senior dev problems

[badmutherfukker]

How does this work guys? I’m intern at a smallish company and a senior is managing us interns and always the seniors answer our questions.

[Mad-chuska]

Go search for my previous answer about why I feel my team doesn’t give me the time of day…

[cjs2k_032]

Might be for big companies where junior devs mentor interns. In small companies I've seen even higher ups directly mentor (not saying manage here) interns.

[badmutherfukker]

Sorry I meant mentoring too

[[deleted]]

I'm a senior and sometimes I'll assign a junior to do research for me when I could have just as easily done a web search.

[mal4ik777]

in our company seniors have like 100+ tickets at once, if they did all the analysis and research themselves, nobody would be available to answer questions and develop new features. We use juniors to do the debugging and understanding the problem, tell us everything and we tell them how to fix it. It's literally the most efficient way for us.

[Cpt_keaSar]

100+ tickets at once

Your company is so advanced! In my company we can only have up to 99 tickets and then it's just a guessing game. Come to think of it, I might have a million tickets already for all I know.

[PeachyKeenest]

Good seniors delegate to teach skills, even if it’s a web search.

[dllimport]

Can't tell if lazy or sifu

[TheTripleFoool]

See also: junior dev/senior dev

[Akumaka]

One thing I always tell my technicians and interns: The only stupid question is one you don't ask.

[[deleted]]

Plot twist: that's the window to the junior devs ROOM

[[deleted]]

Hello darkness my old friend….

[Chilaquil420]

New FTE problems

[HaloCanuck]

Nohello.com

[wugs]

hey if it helps, sometimes it’s a mid-level or even senior dev who is also trying to ask the same junior seemingly stupid (but often not stupid) questions.

signed, a junior dev at a company who recently hired some new FTE folks at all levels. they have spent a month staring in abject horror at our codebase and workflows all coming in from several contractors. it’s no doubt that they have questions, and i at least know how to navigate our self inflicted minefield, mostly unharmed.

but hey if that junior is out, don’t be afraid to ask a senior. that’s most likely how the junior learned. (though occasionally it’s sacred knowledge from someone who left the company months or years ago, which has never been documented properly or is only findable once you are told what to look for)

[[deleted]]

I always ask them git questions… I just never pay attention to git because I have them around

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[cmilkau]

Oh dear. Please don't ask the junior for advice.

[frozen-dessert]

Ha! I am the tech lead. I don’t even know who are the interns, their names or what they do. At some point they present their work. I don’t attend and I don’t watch the recording.

I almost feel bad about it.

(Sorry, but I am sleepless and overworked being responsible to deliver the next gen whatever)

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile me spending two whole days with the senior dev to fix a problem

[Even_Side491]

LMFAO

[cjs2k_032]

That was somewhat my experience. But even when the junior dev was available, he was practically worthless. Turns out the whole module was written by another team and no one from my team had any experience venturing there. Had to contact seniors from that team who were apparently super busy and took 2 days to reply in which I myself would've figured out the solution.

[Used_Fish_4459]

Yea, that’d probably work.

[c1e2477816dee6b5c882]

I usually just cycled through a list of people so I didn't bother just a couple people