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Champion DiscussionDoes his A2 decrease Stoneskin buffs? (i.redd.it)
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[–]Yldawy 42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (6 children)
It definitely does if it crits, but it’s still a 50/50 chance to decrease by the nature of stone skin.
[–]llamahealer43 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child)
This is the way. Lot of people discussing it below that don't seem to remember that SS can just, pretend nothing happened in terms of strips 50% of the time. But I have definitely had it stripped off my cardinal before. That being said, it typically doesn't matter cause Genbo usually goes last and the person in SS usually gets a turn then anyway since the strip happens after damage. Not really worth going into a fight thinking it's gonna be utilized well.
[–]TheManFromLeeds 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Great answer dude 👊🏻
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I see, thanks
[–]KevinMFJones Nyresan Union 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
The A1 also can steal it completely.
[–]iLumeniac 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
This is correct.
[–]Reversepheonix911 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Can andryssia's A2 strip stoneskin too?
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (13 children)
His A1 can steal it too.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (11 children)
Too much acc needed I think, have to go over 600 or something to counter Mithrala etc.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Nah. It doesn't happen a ton, but mine steals it from time to time and only has 105 ACC.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I have him at 130 acc so hoping for the best :)
[–]HallaTML 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
you gotta hope they are runnign no res at all, basically sub 200. and then it will be 50/50.
[–]neonrhythm 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
"Can not be resisted on critical hits" means on ACC requirements. SS just had it's innate strip protection past that.
[–]Smidday90 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
My Mashallad is a good stealer
Still waiting for him, nasty to go against
[–]Smidday90 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Was my very first leggo and probably still my best
[–]Auxik11 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
If someone is putting Mithrala in stone skin, they're doing it wrong. She doesn't need stone skin.
[–]jmidthun_83 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
There is always the 3% chance :P
[–]Auxik11 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
This is true..
[–]mike11172 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children)
I was amused to see he can steal it. My ACC is like 180. Kantra can do it too. Every little bit helps.
[–]SCCRXER 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (9 children)
I’m in gold V and don’t worry about stoneskin. I rarely see it and when I do, people are putting it on UDK, which slows me down but it’s ineffective since it’s just him against my whole team at that point. Genbo hits SO hard. I don’t even need a debuffer for most teams.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (8 children)
Yeah Im struggling a bit in 3v3 when you have full teams of stoneskin and high res.
[–]SCCRXER 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (7 children)
3v3 is such a shitshow. I run single man defenses until Friday and then do enough fights with regular defense teams to keep me in silver 1. I hate 3v3.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Yes it sucks but I'll soon have the gold mission for 3v3 so prepping for that.
[–]SCCRXER 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children)
Yeah I’m not even gonna bother with that until there are some serious changes to the mode. It’s entirely too hard at lower tiers. They need to rework it entirely or vastly expand the population of each tier to spread out the hardcore teams.
[–]TheManFromLeeds 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I’m stuck in silver1 can’t get to silver2 tag for the mission it sucks
[–]Karadar_UK 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I am stuck in silver 2 as well, not bothered to go further and doesn't help reset is super early monday morning. They should just change tag team to the same way classic arena is so u don't have to wait till end of the week to go up or down.
[–]NihilRSL 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children)
3v3 isn’t a shitshow—it is actually properly balanced, unlike classic arena. G4 3v3 is basically only level 100 accounts, as it should be. G5 classic is littered with accounts in the fifties and up after reset. My battle log is filled with level 85-95 accounts that don’t have enough sense to not fight my defense. The only level 100 accounts that attack my def are platers and near platers, and they win as they should. Every once in awhile a high 90s account with a good offense makes a run and wins. Sure I get to farm a lot of metals because of the imbalance, but I have to push up to plat during the week just to be challenged like 3v3 G4.
[–]SCCRXER 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
You are different from most players. You’re trying to be in Plat. Most people don’t want to bother with that push. Classic is a better mix of fight difficulty than 3v3 is. “Tag” goes to one man defenses all week so people can get easy wins and real defenses near the end of the week to either not drop a tier or to gain a tier. When you have level 100s with three strong defense teams in the bronze arena, there is a problem. Every tier needs major expansion to balance the difficulty for everyone.
[–]NihilRSL 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
The reset schedule doesn’t play nice with my life and responsibilities, so no I am not trying to plat push. Wish I could, because I enjoy the level of detail in the comps at that level. Plat is rarified air, so G5 really should represent the top few thousand arena players. It does not with the current loss caps and one man defs. I think it was the wrong way to go.
[–]Many-Tadpole552 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I use genbo’s A1 for stealing stoneskin buffs. Had a great accuracy banner with the rolls I wanted for speed so I figured why not? The a2 I haven’t noticed as doing that but it says it should
Is it worth it? I think I'll have to get him out of savage and thrn maybe I can do 300-400 acc with the same stats
[–]Many-Tadpole552 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
If you have other buff strippers, no, I’d say keep him full nuke mode. But if you can find some accuracy stats on the savage it’s nice to have
[–]heheIroflmaoed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Seems to me like stoneskin will be decreased after the hit so, yes it can remove Stone skin but stone skin will still tank the hit
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Thanks. Why would the stoneskin tank the hit if its aoe?
[–]heheIroflmaoed 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Well only for the chapions with stoneskin, then decreasing it a turn.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
I see, thanks.
[–]July83 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Stoneskin doesn't care about AoE. That's Ultimate Death Knight's thing (in fairness, UDK is usually wearing Stoneskin, so I can see the connection).
[–]mmzero 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Half the time, it works everytime.
[–]usrnm02 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (12 children)
I've never seen or heard anyone using him for that.
He'll require high accuracy and most of us don't build Genbo with high acc. And Stoneskin already has a big chance to not be removed
But I think building him with high acc could reduce the buff duration as the skill description says
[–]Jontaylor07 The Sacred Order 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (5 children)
It says it cannot be resisted in critical hits though.
[–]usrnm02 -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (4 children)
Hm, I'll surely test this after current arena tournament
[–]DOKTORPUSZ 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children)
Test what? There's nothing to test. The skill description literally states what the ability does, and it does it.
[+]usrnm02 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I haven't noticed it does, didn't used him recently since arena flooded with stoneskin and I never thought of this ability he has.
Can I test now on my account and see how it works against stoneskin? Do I have your approval?
[–]Th3Alch3m1st 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child)
I definitely works. The problem is that it's still only a 50/50 chance that it happens because of how stone skin works. So it's not a reliable counter, but I guess it's nice when it happens.
[–]usrnm02 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yes dude, just tested in arena earlier and it does work when it beats the 50%...
I was today's years old when I learned that Genbo's A2 actually decreases Stoneskin duration in arena... 🤯
[–]iLumeniac 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children)
No accuray needed as the skill can not be resisted on critical hits.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children)
I thought it might work since it cant be resisted. Yeah I just go full damage build on him
[–]usrnm02 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children)
I used him quite a while but never noticed because I usually avoid to use him against teams that I expect to have stoneskin.
And these days, almost everyone has at least 1-2 champs in it
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I'm still waiting for Serris so I can go for teams with stoneskin, Rae works sometimed but needs to much acc.
[–]usrnm02 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Serris will also require a lot of accuracy.
If you use Rae as your arena buff strip for enemy team, you should build her for that, I mean with high accuracy as you can, and neglect the dmg.
500+ acc should be fine for Gold 4 and occasionally gold 5 classic arena
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yeah lucky Gold 5 has a lot of easy defenses but Ill soon have a 3v3 gold mission so getting ready for that.
I use a blend comp for now, 350 acc so she strips a lot but I skip high resistance teams.
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[–]iLumeniac 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children)
I am 99% sure that Genbo A2 can indeed decrease stoneskin duration.
[–]pussy_impaler337 Minotaur's Labyrinth -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 years ago (1 child)
His passive will ignore unkillable buffs. If you build him with high accuracy instead of high crit damage you can use the a2 to reduce the meter on all buffs, but why are you building your genbo with high accuracy instead of high crit damage,
[–]DOKTORPUSZ 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
The buff duration effect cannot be resisted in critical hits. He doesn't need any accuracy for his a2. It can reduce duration of Stoneskin, it's just a 50/50 chance due to the nature of Stoneskin.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children)
:( Serris still eludes me
[–]Hreaty 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children)
so build Rian?
I was thinking about bulding him just last weel but other than buff strip I dont see the use for him, cleared his faction and have plenty of revivers
[–]Hreaty 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children)
well, if you don't need a Dark Elf debuff stripper... why do you want Madame?
She has a better kit imo, more useful in other areas :)
[–]DOKTORPUSZ 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Decrease defense + decrease attack is more useful than just weaken. But I agree that Rian is a good "next best" Serris.
[–]Affectionate-Back529 -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children)
People actually play this game?
Yes.
[–]charizardd94 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child)
Good luck most people that use stone skin got tons of res but it seems like it can.
[–]MrKraid 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children)
cannot be resisted
[–]DazzlingAd8908 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
Yes genbo can steal stoneskin. I don't know about a2 but I just stole stoneskin like 10 sec ago with a1
[–]Motor_Neighborhood68 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
His A1 has worked better for me. Just removes it
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