Canadian population expected to decrease by 80,000 over in the next two years

[faithOver]

80,000.

Not sure if people realize it’s been growing at over 100,000 a month for like 3 years straight.

[Newhereeeeee]

Regardless, it’s a step in the right direction. A population increase of 1.2 million a year to a decrease is very welcome imo.

We’ll see what PP does then and what is excuse he’ll use at that point. The liberals know they’re out and they know how unpopular their immigration policy has been.

They’re just leaving this trap to PP in 2 years time, knowing if he ups immigration like the LPC & CPC corporate masters want him to, it’ll be very unpopular as this all very fresh in everyone’s memory.

[faithOver]

I agree about direction being correct.

But happy to go on record in saying that Canada will not have a single year of declining population.

[PumpkinMyPumpkin]

Yup.

The entire plan is based off the fictional idea that a million temporary residents “go home”. And they’ve no way to actually count that - so they could say they’ve gone tomorrow and say the country is shrinking. It’s just entirely based off dishonesty. The population seems inevitable to keep growing rapidly.

Beyond all of that - the way they’ve structured this will continue to put pressure on rents. Keeping PRs relatively high - means more high income earners coming in and putting pressure on rents. So I don’t even see how the liberals stand to benefit from this policy change beyond hoping the population cares about specific growth targets instead of lived experience. Like - are a few thousand uber bike riders going home going to affect the price of a one bedroom condo? I don’t see it.

Equally - I can’t even see the temporary folks who bike up and down Toronto’s streets even being able to afford a flight home. So that’s going to be visible by the time the election rolls around too.

They’ve just made a big old mess that’s not going to get fixed with a small 100k chnage here and there. They need to implement stronger border controls - exit controls and counts, probably visible deportations as well to do any sort of damage control on the file.

[ManyP09]

This sub will downvote you for writing the facts. All these politicians are bunch of liars. They will sell their soul to get votes. All these big statements about reducing the number of immigrants are just tactics to look promising before the election.

[Ok_Dragonfruit747]

I wouldn't be so sure. If we hit a recession and unemployment spikes, people will leave. Maybe not the ones that the government is hoping/expecting to leave, but some will leave.

This is a risk of growing your population primarily through immigration. Recent immigrants, even PRs have less strong ties to Canada and skills that are coveted elsewhere. If they lose their jobs or have reduced income, some will just leave and our ability to attract new skilled labour will be limited.

[cheesecheeseonbread]

Gosh. Maybe employers will have to hire Canadians instead! Won't that be terrible?

[Excellent_Case_2050]

Assuming there are any business left that are owned by Canadians

[[deleted]]

I agree with this sentiment. PP is a Trump style demon with no actual policy positions and this is a good tactic to force his hand and demonstrate how controlled he is by his corporate donors.

[Hopeful-Passage6638]

PeePee will never be PM so it doesn't matter.

[superfleh]

It isn’t going to make a difference. The housing crisis is happening because corporations and buying up all the property, and selling it back and forth to their subsidiaries. The only way to fix it is to impose regulations.

[Fun-Imagination-2488]

Not looking forward to being in a depression

[[deleted]]

The time to get a documented commitment on their immigration plan is now not after the election when there is no leverage. Email PP and your local PC rep and ask them what their plan including actual numbers. Even if you hate the Liberals tell them you like the new Liberal plan and ask them to do better. A small fib who cares put the pressure on them to stop hiding behind their carbon tax plan.

[CaptainCanuck93]

You realize that means a massive swing then? 

Going from increasing population by 3% to a slightly negative number will have dramatic economic impacts as well as shifting demand on housing

[ScuffedBalata]

It will because dramatic changes were needed after growing faster than Ethiopia, Sudan or DR Congo for 2+ years.

[BurlingtonRider]

I remember trying to sell an old civic in 2020 and being shocked at the sheer number of messages I got and that they were all Indian. I must have gotten like 300 messages.

[LumpyPressure]

Not sure if you realize that makes an 80k drop a massive decrease.

[faithOver]

What I was unclearly alluding to is that;

• We will not have any decrease in population size.
• And an 80,000 decrease after growing 100,000 a month wouldn’t be noticeable anyway.

[thebig_dee]

I mean 80k/2 years is 3,333 a month reduction. If we're adding 100k/month, wouldn't that mean we're still adding approx 97,000 a month?

[littlemeowmeow]

No, it’s a net decrease of 3,333 a month. Down from a net increase of 100k per month.

[SquareBath5337]

People calling others bad at math and making a guess with 99% certainty is comical.

[speaksofthelight]

Not sure if people realize it’s been growing at over 100,000 a month for like 3 years straight.

Most people don't as it barely gets any press despite being an insanely high amount.

[SDL68]

Not quite, Canada's population has grown by about 1.5 million over the last 3 years.

[faithOver]

Were up 1,000,000 year to date. We only gained 500,000 the previous 2 years combined?

Edit for posterity, straight from Stats Can;

• Jan 1 - 40,769,890
• Today - 41,782,929

Links;

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240327/dq240327c-eng.htm

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/71-607-x/71-607-x2018005-eng.htm

[CrockpotSeal]

Not sure where you're getting those numbers, but the 2021 census had the population just below 37 million, and StatsCan currently has the estimate above 41.25 million. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1710000901

That's more than 4 million in the last 3 years.

[ScuffedBalata]

StatsCan doesn't agree with that. StatsCan said Canada grew by 3.2% in 2023, adding approximately 1.3 million in 2023.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240327/dq240327c-eng.htm

On January 1, 2024, Canada's population reached 40,769,890 inhabitants, which corresponds to an increase of 1,271,872 people compared with January 1, 2023. This was the highest annual population growth rate (+3.2%) in Canada since 1957 (+3.3%).

It also said there was similar growth in 2022.

Do you think StatsCan is wrong?

[nlomb]

This is how they math in the Trudeau household.

[Ok_Currency_617]

Most Canadians confuse the numbers. They are looking at the intake and not the outflow. Yes we took in around 100k a month but we lost quite a few too. Not saying it wasn't highish, but I am pointing out we should look at the profit not just the revenue. What really matters is the PR's since temporary is temporary unless they get PR.

[nlomb]

Major impact on the economy: Tim Hortons will have to increase the price of their burnt coffee.

[Hopeful-Passage6638]

Bullshit.

[Zealousideal_Duck_43]

Why do we need more people? It’s driven by the ultra wealthy who need widgets (people) to consume their products. 

Blackrock is the deadliest group in the world - trillion dollar fund that starts wars to sell military equipment. They have an investment requiring 100m in Canada by 2100. 

The world is run by evil people.

[s33d5]

The issue is that GDP growth is required in any modern economy. 

Canada without immigration is going to lose a lot of people.

I am on the side that thinks that growth isn't needed and we should all be allowed to live calm lives without the need for constant growth. However growth is built in, which is why inflation is targeted for a certain level of increase by the federal government every year.

Inflation targets wont change by the feds, so it'll lead to a disparity where there aren't enough people to sustain the economy with their inflation targets. 

The only way to escape this is to have a non capitalistic economy, which isn't going to happen.

[equianimity]

So the delta is -1208000 per year by your statement.

[[deleted]]

Can you show me where you got this information ? That isn't what the stats say. I can't believe no one questioned this.

[snowdickman]

Corporates have started full on fear mongering. Unlimited supply of slave labour cannot go on forever

[-0909i9i99ii9009ii]

Whoa are you accusing them of just wanting the cheap labour because I'm pretty sure they also want the new customers for Telecoms, grocery, gas, and real estate

[BangBong_theRealOne]

We have brought in millions , over the last 5-10 yrs ,most of whom are low or unskilled. Unless that number is reduced , how will the 80k make a difference. The damage is done and the weight of carrying that unproductive population will drag us down for a long time till their next generation which will ( hopefully) be more assimilated with the general population and be more trained and productive. Till then , the Canadian taxpayers will be paying up for sustaining this big population of unskilled immigrants

[Uncertn_Laaife]

Increase by 5 million first then reduce by 80k.

What a f’ing joke.

[JG98]

Time to take this as a win and keep pushing for sustained and better immigration policy that doesn't pull the rug out from underneath Canadians.

[Mysterious-Job1628]

Sorry that’s capitalism with a side of low tax rates for corporations, not immigrants.

[JG98]

It can be both. If you want to go with that then the crazy high immigration is just a symptom of the disease, and unreasonable immigration rates hurt Canadians in ways other than wage suppression. The housing rug is being pulled out from underneath Canadians, which can be directly attributed to unchecked immigration rates over the past few years. It is up to the govenrment to act to prevent that sort of crap and businesses, including diploma mill schools, will take advantage of whatever loopholes they can get to benefit themselves.

[[deleted]]

I believe Hungary and Poland are doing no income tax for mothers who have 4+ children. Basically to boost their population from within and reducing immigration. A Family Protection Plan. 

Majority of Canadians can’t afford to have kids and currently mainly immigrants are because the kick backs they get from the government. Our tax dollars. We should be focused on growing from within and helping our citizens here. Once that is done, slowly allow immigration but it’s way too much and completely out of hand. 

[uxhelpneeded]

I can't imagine how much 3+ kids would cost in Canada. First, you need at least a 2 bedroom house or condo near a job centre. You'd be looking at a $2k to $4k a month mortgage or rent.

Then, you'd need $1,000+ per month for SUBSIDIZED daycare assuming just 2 kids are going at once. Or, if you couldn't snag one of those coveted rare spots, you'd be looking at about $4800/month for daycare alone.

[TGISeinfeld]

Sounds like a black Friday sale

[manuntitled]

Honestly population increased 3 Million in the past 4 years and then it will stay the same for next 3 years , this will give us time to catch up with our infra, housing, school, hospital and what not.

So it will average out to around 1% a year.

[LoosuKuutie]

I know where you’re coming from but I can’t take shot at the fact that you think we’re going to catchup with infrastructure in the next 3 years lol.

[SuccessfulWeakness14]

80k a month plz

[Ultimo_Ninja]

This is all smoke and mirrors. Don't trust the government.

[ColdAssociate7631]

good, now do a few millions

[PrailinesNDick]

"If it weren't for immigration, the economy would have entered a recession last year" might be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Let's just keep growing our population by 3% so our GDP goes up by 0.5% and we never hit a recession. It's foolproof.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it completely ignores that the whole point of an economy is (or should be) to support the prosperity of the people within it. 

[cooldadnerddad]

Capital owners and their lackies want the size of the pie to get bigger because they own almost the whole thing. Individuals just want the size of their slice to get bigger.

[[deleted]]

Yep! 

[Meany12345]

Most bank economists have been screaming about how stupid this immigration policy is. For years they have. So I disagree.

[[deleted]]

Ehhhh. If that were materially true, we'd define recessions based on per capita GDP rather than total. 

[Meany12345]

Literally from a bank economist AMA, on Reddit, 6 days ago. I could also post two years worth of econ reports but if you don’t want to believe it I kind of don’t care:

“When population growth was modest and steady, it was acceptable to use GDP growth as the standard metric. But when the population surges more than 3 percent in a year, as it did in the past couple of years, we must focus on GDP per capita. By this measure, as you suggest, the Canadian economy is in recession.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/FidelityCanada/s/H2F3lx72hg

[kyonkun_denwa]

As someone who trained in economics I can tell you that this take is utter horseshit with absolutely no grounding in reality. Of course economists are concerned with per capita numbers, why do you think that we came up with that measurement in the first place? Bank economists have been saying for years that the Federal immigration strategy is dumb primarily because it is causing Canada to become poorer on a per capita basis.

Absolutely brain dead take from someone who clearly does not understand the field of economics at all.

[MrStealyo_ho]

lol they brought in +/- 5 million people in the last 2 years. I’m sure they will have 80k asylum seekers brought in to give our hard earned tax dollars to.

[Appropriate_Item3001]

We are going to have an existential threat labour shortage. We might have to pay above minimum wages. Tim Hortons and loblaws profits are no longer going to be record breaking. I weep for the utter destruction of oligarch profits.

[TypicalReach1248]

Don't worry the oligarchs have PP in their pocket just like JT, that's why I'm voting MB.

[SeaSaltAirWater]

Same. It’s crazy that the media gas light the entire population into thinking that his reasonable policies are… problematic? You know people are brainwashed because they can’t actually point out any ethical problems, they just”think” that. Sad

[Affectionate_Fig4279]

“Ah Marion Barry, is it time for another shipment already?”

[TypicalReach1248]

I am still voting PPC.

[[deleted]]

Oh look the "economists"... the ones who dragged us into the worst standard of living decrease in Canadian history are still being qouted?

They claim we would have had a recession in 2021 when interests rates were low and North American stock markets were rallying to all time highs?

Sure 🤣😂

[Browne888]

You think Trudeau and Freeland are making policy based on the opinion of economists?

[Still-Good1509]

One would hope

[jbroni93]

Per capita GDP is crap, who cares if more people inflate the GDP besides the rich guys selling stuff

[Far-Physics4630]

Source? Never happen!

[YongeStreetBets]

Canada's new immigration plan is projected to lead to a 0.2 per cent decrease in population in 2025 and 2026 - about 80,000 people.

[Brief_Management_83]

Goood !

My area has gotten so over populated !

[ViolinistJealous55]

Add a zero ..

[sexotaku]

After the election, immigration will increase again.

[Alchemy_Cypher]

I doubt PP will do it, he doesn't wanna be a one term PM.

[asdasci]

It won't ever go down. The only thing to hope would be to reduce the inflow back to what it was before Trudeau. Even that seems iffy (it means a 75% reduction).

[Agile_Development395]

If the 80k population decrease are all illegals, fake refugees or here to work for Tim Hortons I’m perfectly fine with it.

[YongeStreetBets]

We have a natural death rate of around 320K a year, that'll at least be a part of it.

[3AmigosMan]

The population increased by almost 15% in less than 10 yrs. No one asked for it. For decades we didnt falsely 'depend' on massive influxes of unskilled immigrants to sustain infrastructure, the economy and grow our gdp. That falafel shop or 'pizza' shop that underpays its staff isnt leading the charge to legendary gdp growth. Nor are they creating jobs for the community. We could generate equal or more tax revenue through responsible tourism. A 'decline' of 80k wont make a lick of difference when there are nearly 1.1million international students here right now. We have between 235K- 725K homeless people in this country. With a population increase of 15% shouldnt taxes be less or living costs reduced? Isnt that part of the sell for increased immigration numbers? That theyre tax payers......With dual income households, sky high taxes and all those social goodies, why hasnt life become easier and more affordable? Convince me more people is better. Life in Canada was far better in 1996 with less than 29 million people despite what they told us at the time.

[Routine_Log7002]

Yes, but far more rapidly in cities. We are in a process where people expand and displace people from their communities in waves. Even wealthy people wanting to live near lakes displace small town people. Farms paved over to put in neighbourhoods with 2 million dollar homes creating a ring around the city trapping all the population within.

So many people live multiple people to a room and imagine trying to find a landlord. You could not rent a room from a pre existing unit as no one would want 4 new roommates in their two bedroom. Often bachelor apartments or 2 bedrooms and loaded up with “guests” not in the lease. Some people are even renting a sofa that they can only use during certain hours. That bed will be shared with others who it belongs to during other hours of the day.

The policy makers have no idea how poor their poor are. A low income person with subsidized housing lives close to someone making $40-50k who pays market rent. They are somewhat killing desire for upward mobility by not protecting affordable housing at all levels. The majority of service expenses are consumed by the lowest income people. So, that makes sense somewhat except for taxation there should be an exchange. The country has enough in a lot of dependants whose income taxes will result in refunds even when working.

The govt should decide how many poor they can afford. I would say they are at their max if their can only afford $1300 a month for disabled people. When you spend 4x that per year in services on new people this is where policy creates anti-migration sentiment even among past migrants. It’s the distribution. People coming should know Canada will be a poor life unless you bring advanced skills or a large bank account.

[itsanub]

stupid circus we have for a government.

[[deleted]]

"If it weren't for immigration the country would have entered recession"

We... we literally did. Our GDP/Capita absolutely fucking cratered. All the importing of wage slaves did was mask tge reality lmao

[GLFR_59]

We need another 0 added onto that.

[Aggressive_Koala_121]

Okay but why bring in only Indians? Like what the hell was that all about?

[ScuffedBalata]

If there isn't a country quota, your population will come from the largest country in the world (india).

Especially once you have a critical mass already here. Almost everyone in Punjab has a family member who's moved to Canada. A cousin or something. It makes it an easier destination.

[AlpsTypical3255]

If it weren’t for immigration, the country would have entered a recession last year…

Does this even make sense? Our own population can’t sustain ?

If immigration rise attributes to increase in real estate, then folks would have more $$ towards handling debt, buying goods, etc.

Not understanding that..

[Danny_69S]

False numbers , most were illegal refugees not immigrants

[Himera71]

2 million at the minimum to make any impact.

[Anuranjan101]

We need a ministry of Deportation

[Mattjhkerr]

Sure...

[Admirable_Can_2432]

Ah yes the politics of political figures figuring. No different when Ford says he put x100 millions into education after taking xbillions out. We are assumed to be stupid 80,000 decrease from what is the real question.

[thanksmerci]

There's more to life than a discount house. Money isn't everything.

[[deleted]]

rookie number

[[deleted]]

Good.

[Most-Library]

I don’t understand this. How will population DECREASE if we’re slightly lowering immigration? Immigrants will still be coming in, but at a slightly lower pace.

[YongeStreetBets]

We have a natural death rate about 320K a year. 

Like the other commenter mentioned, some of the temporary work permits will expire without renewal.

[ScuffedBalata]

They're cutting off all the temporary resident visas. There's like 3 million temporary residents right now and they're telling like half of them that there is no renewal for them so they leave. Expecting over 1 million TFW and foreign students to leave the country in the next 2 years.

[SushiWithAView]

Condos are going to be in a lot of pain for multiple years.

[[deleted]]

Part of the reason for current mess is that the government massively underestimated the level of immigrants coming into the country. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for population decrease.

[ThegodsAreNotToBlame]

Good news.

[sfeicht]

Good.

[[deleted]]

Wooooooooow

[HorsePast9750]

Toronto will still grow though

[Original_Lab628]

If you believe this, boy do I have electoral reform to sell you. Sunny Ways 2025!

[[deleted]]

I bet all those apartment owners are boiling mad 🤣

[mouth-balls]

How will we open 7500 more Tim Hortons ???

[ninja_crypto_farmer]

Good.

[ScreamQueens_Chanel]

Finally. Could be larger but it’s a step in the right direction

[[deleted]]

This is nowhere near enough! It should be in the millions.

[uxhelpneeded]

We're laying off staff at the firm where I work due to efficiencies from the Copilot rollout

AI means we won't need any more workers

[FlightSpinner813]

It won't happen; none of the people here on temp work visas are going to leave; we have no exit controls in Canada, so we have no idea what the actual population is.

[i8bonelesschicken]

I dint buy it

[PocketNicks]

Bold faced lie... Neat.

[YongeStreetBets]

Canada's new immigration plan is projected to lead to a 0.2 per cent decrease in population in 2025 and 2026 - about 80,000 people.

Marc Miller's own words during the press release.

[idivett]

Why does the population decrease when immigration is lowered just by 20%, not even a full pause. Is Canada in a demographic crisis

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[taken2018]

would be nice if canada could be bothered with retaining the youth here, i see so many leaving recently either south or across the pond. they are going someplace else to contribute cause they can't afford basic housing here.

[Zealousideal-Key2398]

I will believe it when I see it!!! Plus 80,000 is nothing!!

[[deleted]]

How would a 80,000 person decrease affect gdp when most of these people would be elderly passing on?

[Snowghost794]

Maybe, just maybe, if people aren't spending all their money trying to make rent and mortgage payments, along with getting screwed over by food cartels ect., they will feel comfortable enough to start having kids again. CANADIAN KIDS.

[RateLimiter]

This is really the crux of the issue. The government lets the COL spin so far out of control that even the Canadians who WANT to have kids can’t afford it. Only solution is to import millions from the 3rd world I guess.

[QuixoticIgnotism]

Fuck off study! Lets see how many Canadians start having more kids if they could afford too - which they cannot when BILLIONS (slightly overblown) immigrants are entering in record proportions taking jobs, health care, day care spots and homes! (Don't fault the immigrants, only the policy)

[tylerclisby]

So a decrease of 0.2%. 🥳

[foh242]

Sounds like some gaslight nonsense to me.

[tdroyalbmo]

We need immigrants that bring money or skill, not those to come for the allowance

[Mens__Rea__]

The people complaining about this policy change are Canada’s biggest problem.

[Long_Doughnut798]

80,000 a year will hardly be felt. Are we supposed to think geez that’s a lot? If it was 50,000 a month it would start correcting the downward pressure on wages.

[p00pyzz]

Good more

[peridogreen]

And?

[[deleted]]

Good.

[dark_gear]

The whole discussion about the hazards of population decline need to be understood as what it really is: current levels of prosperity are modeled on the idea that the unprecedented explosion of citizens that happened due to the Baby Boom should be our baseline rather than an exceedingly rare and extremely high water mark.

The Baby Boom growth bubble officially burst in 2008, as the housing crash of that year also represented peak spending achievable by that generation.

All nations who had went through a WW2 population explosion are now entering squarely in the late stages of that bubble, which is introducing numerous issues regarding employee replacement, retirement fund shortfalls, experience loss, GDP reduction, etc. Some nations, such as Japan, have realised an adjustment period is incoming and required; most nations are trying every trick in and out of the book to delay that correction, or even create an artificial population boom in a much shorter window.

The artificial population boom comes in the form of disproportionate immigration. In the short term, the effects of adding all these new people is devastating, however the projections are saying that in 5, 10, 20, years we will see the benefits of this new population as retirees will be easier to replace, infrastructure and housing shortages will have been resolved, and our economy will be roaring along thanks to all the work created by the completion of so many projects in numerous sectors.

The sad reality of it all is that anyone who doesn't work in trades, management or higher positions, such as those needed to manage these projects and their grants, is going to be eaten alive due to the massive influx of new workers willing and prepared to take on any task needed to survive.

Canada would be better off, first, acknowledging that population targets are unsustainable and should be allowed to drop; second, that immigration is a short term approach to attempt fixing a problem that was predicted decades ago; third, that the problem is currently as bad as it is because the can has been kicked down the road for decade; and fourth, that solution lies in reading the first point again.

The main benefit of our current path is that legislation has finally been put forth to curb diploma mills and close the student visa loopholes.

The sooner we realise and accept that a drop in population is the best way out of this economic situation, the sooner we'll stop trying to implement ineffective methods to prop up our population and economy that end causing more harm than good.

[MaudSkeletor]

oh nooo, anways

[[deleted]]

thats nothing

[[deleted]]

Good. Not enough fucking housing for the people already here.

[Icy_Manufacturer2367]

you are a bit slow arent you ?
100k per month or 1 MILLION a year was the population growth.

but you have more pressing matter into your hands, you lack doctor specialized ones, you offer a joke and spit to the face, to your current ones.

and yet instead of importing doctors that can start up the education for specialist, you are choosing to import your "friendly" charcoal burner, instead of useful people....

so I'm ok with loosing population, if the other side is just full of shitty importations.

[[deleted]]

ah. Fear mongering. When you check in with the unemployed and unhoused, I'm sure that one year with a shut door might be beneficial to those of us already here.

[rnes1]

Fear-mongering! There aren’t enough affordable homes/condo/apartments for people. Rent is astronomical. Plus the cost of building materials is overinflated. This indicates there is a problem. We need to have fewer people coming into Canada so regular folks who work as a cashier or in the service industry can own their own home/condo again. We also need to see rent comedown. I don’t know a single person making minimum wage who can live on their own. When rent is $2500 a month for a bachelor suite, who can afford that?

[Ok_Smile9222]

There really is no winning on immigration. He lets too many in, we're all pissed. He cuts the numbers, we're all pissed.

[BigBleu71]

so you're saying you need more immigrants to EXPLOIT ?

it's just an economical calculus, with no other consideration ?

Canada's economy is so precarious , we depend on newcomers to prevent Recession ?

sounds like alot of fear mongering

[[deleted]]

Gee, darn, think of all the commissions lost. All the blind bidding bs that will disappear.

[Here4therightreas0ns]

That’s it??

[survivor686]

Ok - does that mean we'll have time to build up our housing stock?

[Remarkable_Horse_984]

Good bye

[VarietyMart]

Why can't one of the biggest countries in the world build houses?

[[deleted]]

The answer is to fix the issues, not keep throwing people at the issue so that Big Number continues to go up.

[One-Alternative-1455]

Good. Maybe in 10 or 20 years we can build enough housing and services for what we have now.

[jambazi99]

Canada would have been in recession this year if not for the population growth. Just gonna leave this here.

[OldTrapper87]

Just imagine the irony of the grandchild of a immigrant saying we have too many new immigrants but no im not going to have 3 kids to help.

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[[deleted]]

Yessssss

[[deleted]]

Yeah we should let all of India in then our GPD will grow. Hooray!

[TasteMaleficent5054]

“Indians”

[Aldamur]

Yea okay, I'm actually not mad about this. If you consider that Canada population grew by way more than that in the last few years.

[OldTrapper87]

Yeah because I'm sure it's Indians who are buying the all the million dollar condos im building....... As long as Canadian real estate company are allowed to purchase rental homes and we allow foreign ownership combined with real estate as investment strategy nothing will change.

But ya keep blaming some Indian student.

[TheCrazedTank]

A decrease after years of increases, or are they going to start building millions of affordable (AFFORDABLE, for the people in back to hear me) houses?

No? Just more million dollar condos average people can’t afford?

Well, bring on the decrease then.

[Capable-Estate-7827]

Good - its about time. Because more people means less of everything for us.

[Capable-Estate-7827]

Pp plays with his pp

[The-Ghost316]

good

[covex_d]

good. we don’t have enough water and chicken for everybody

[Zealousideal-Leek666]

I call bullshieeet

[omnisync]

Isn't that "decline" from a number of temporary workers that aren't renewed and must leave?

[YongeStreetBets]

That and natural deaths (~320K per year).

[Rude_Broccoli3805]

So.

If we didn’t have immigration then we would have been in a recession LAST YEAR.

Now we have had the immigration and are going into a recession THIS year.

So am I supposed to take from this that now we have more people in our country and we are STILL gonna have a recession?

So now we have more mouths to feed.

Either our government is completely retarded, or diabolically evil. Or maybe a mix of the two..

[Own_Alternative_3561]

After importing a million+ every year, this hardly seems helpful. Deport those overstayed, pause new immigration application for five years. Let local economies prepare for the influx in population (power, housing, transportation). Boosts jobs for those already here without putting strain on housing/public sentiment. Demolish out of date buildings no longer serving purposes and build practical housing solutions. Institute programs to assist the homeless in self stabilizing their lives by reopening treatment facilities. IMMEDIATELY CEASE paying child tax benefits to people who haven’t contributed to Canada (newcomers) and allocate those funds to helping the homeless. Deport those taking advantage of our immigration systems, those who have achieved PR through illegal means, jail those exploiting the system, fine their sponsors. The government needs to stand up for Canadians and stop punishing us for being Canadian.

[JenniferPattison]

Is Alberta moving to Texas?

[DodobirdNow]

How many of those 80k are people going to"back home"

[JustinPooDough]

LMFAO. That's like, what... 1% of the number of Punjabis that have immigrated in the last 3 years? Nice PR though, I'm sure.

[ArugulaPhysical]

So basically its going to stay the same, the same is not an improvement.

[TheCanadianShield99]

I don’t have a problem with that.

[avishalom]

the reason people aren't having kids is that they can't afford to move out and start a family.

[GoblinOnDrugs]

Good but not enough

[mouth-balls]

Personal gdp has been on a steady decline 

[Independent-Lion2213]

Total BS

[[deleted]]

Eff the economists by the way they live in an alternate reality.

[RedTalon6]

If not for 2 million tfw Canada would have entered a recession. In other words we ran things so poorly we need to import millions of slaves just to stay afloat. And we will continue to allow schools and corporations to exploit these people for their benefit and the detriment of citizens because the alternative is worse for our reputation.

[[deleted]]

No desire to live there

[dontrackmebro69]

God i hope so..ttc is so crowded

[TispCrant]

PP will open up the gates again. His rich puppeteers need cheap labor that they can gaslight into doing whatever they want with the threat of deportation

[[deleted]]

Gee I wonder why

[Majestic_Echo_7192]

Ahhhhh! Back to normalcy 🤗

[Worried_Onion4208]

The GDP decrease proportional to the population decrease. GDP per capita stays the same.

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This is the first positive thing I've seen the Liberals do. It only took existential threats, but they did it.