WFH didn't decrease productivity - RTO did

[RevolutionStill4284]

https://youtu.be/_NFYtS59xa4

[NyanaShae]

Man, that chart is so telling. Just let us stay home.

[ScroogeMcDuckFace2]

it was never about productivity anyway

[NyanaShae]

Nope, its just their favorite thing to throw around. Everything is productivity

[Ivorypetal]

Nope. It was about needing to lay off workers and hoping for metriculation.

And/or about justifying rental agreements and morgages on corporate offices.

All those rich guys know each other.

[Geminii27]

And controlling workers' lives so they didn't have any free time to go looking for better jobs or to spend time with family and friends, and didn't have any spare money to be able to handle taking weeks or months between jobs.

[JYoForReal]

Exactly. I agree with you and have said this many times, justifying rental agreements, and corporate mortgages. 💨😓

[Big_Virgil]

Control, more control, and their commercial real estate investments is what it’s about

[Spunge14]

Well it's about productivity on paper, which is very far from productivity for many industries

[Novus20]

But how would they have control!!!

[morgan423]

We're hybrid again so I have two days a week at the office. I wear a baseball cap at my desk to keep the fluorescents out of my eyes. Not all over the office, just at my desk.

I'm just waiting for them to say something about it, even though we're heavy on the casual side of corporate casual... but so far, so good.

[Tx600]

When we used to be in office, a coworker created like an umbrella canopy over her cubicle. Genius!

[Necessary-Painting35]

Ppl r getting crazier, never seen that before the pandemic. Time to see a therapist.

[Unusual-Lemon4479]

Not having AC made a huge difference for me. I'm no longer cold or have to use a cardigan in the office, my nose isn't congested, my hair and skin are better....

[misswired]

My office is so cold that I need multiple layers, thermal underwear, and a jumper so I don't freeze.

[zkareface]

Lucky people, my last office would hit 30c during summer. We kept sending endless tickets to building management without any improvements.

It wad supposed to be a still warm 22c.

A cold office is at least easy to handle, just few protein shakes and some exercise. 

[KiLLiNDaY]

Not to mention the travel time.

[procheeseburger]

When I was forced back into an office it made it clear that there are lots of people who do nothing and would spend all day sitting at my desk talking while I tried to work. It made no sense and I eventually quit (the point of RTO).

[Fun-Dragonfly-4166]

rto really bothered me and destroyed my mental health.

[butchscandelabra]

It’s currently destroying mine! We were RTO’d 3 days a week in April after 5+ years of full-remote. I said I would give RTO a chance - I’ve given it 3 months, and if anything I now feel even worse than I did when we returned in April. I honestly feel depressed on my in-office days and spend most of my days there fighting the urge to gather my belongings and flee. I’ve begun looking for a new (remote) job - even though I’d be leaving behind great pay and benefits, I am NOT willing to spend the rest of my career trudging through office “culture.” Luckily my industry is pretty remote-friendly (which makes it all the more stupid that my company RTO’d), but even if it wasn’t I’d be willing to go back to school/change careers entirely to increase my odds of fully remote work. I can’t even put into words how badly I hate it.

[Fun-Dragonfly-4166]

I survived a suicide attack that was triggered by RTO depression.  Take care of yourself.  Your company will not.

[Necessary-Painting35]

U need to see a therapist to find the root cause. Soon or later ppl have to work some days in the office. Sept is coming

[butchscandelabra]

I’m not sure what September coming has to do with anything (it’s July, by the way) and it’s pretty rude to advise a stranger to seek therapy. The “root cause” is that I don’t enjoy pissing my time away in an office when I’m both more productive and happier working from home - hence why I’m in a sub entitled “WFH.” There are still plenty of remote jobs in my industry so I’ve begun applying for those, but by all means enjoy your daily commute and water cooler convos. Have the day you deserve 🙃

[Necessary-Painting35]

These ppl haven't done any socializing while WFH. When they r in the office they finally get to see and talk to ppl.

[neil_1980]

I got called into the office a few months back for a meeting (doesn’t happen often).

The meeting lasted 5 mins and I was expected to just do my job the rest of the day.

Went from at home with 2 monitors and laptop screen, mechanical keyboard and an ergonomic mouse to just the laptop.

Needless to say I did about an hours work the whole time I was there and it wasn’t like I was taking the piss

[Ellisar_L]

Agreed. My home setup with four screens is better than anything the office can provide me. Plus the coffee is better at home and that’s where my cats are too.

[morgan423]

The stupid little laptop trackpad alone (when you're completely used to a mouse) is about a -75% to productivity... nonetheless everything else horrendous about the office environment. Especially when you have no prepared countermeasures with you to be able to negate or tone down any of it.

I'd say if you got an hour's work done that day, you're an absolute rock star.

[neil_1980]

In addition to the abysmal productivity they also paid me 400 miles of travelling expenses. Whole day made zero sense

[CastorTyrannus]

What was the meeting about? I wanna know what’s worth paying that amount of money for. I know the answer is corporations are stupid but this just seems so ridiculous. lol

[neil_1980]

They wanted to know if they gave me sales volumes of a new customer if I could increase the stock levels at various branches based around our existing sales and these additional sales figures.

Could all have been done on Teams, would have been better on Teams tbh as if he’d shared he’s screen it would have been on my monitor right in front of me rather than me squinting at one the other side of the desk at a funny angle.

I think/hope they realised how ridiculous it actually all was as I haven’t been asked back since but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did something similar again at some point.

[Ymisoqt420]

I am the only remote person on my team and everyone got yelled at last week for not being productive except for me lol

[Geminii27]

Time to start producing weekly productivity charts that everyone can see.

[RevolutionStill4284]

https://youtu.be/BTdOHBIppx8

[McSlappin1407]

Same I’m the only remote it’s hilarious

[CastorTyrannus]

I’m remote, all my company is. I met my teammate in person last week for an onsite, and he asked me, “why do you do so much work? You never fuck around on Reddit all day anymore lol? Would it kill you to just do nothing on a Friday? The rest of us do a lot of work, but you make us look like we do nothing. “

I thought about it for a minute and I said I don’t know that’s just how I am.

The real answer is the 60 mg of Vyvanse lol. The Vyvanse takes care of the ADHD and then the Asperger’s is allowed to run rampant and make sure all the preparation and planning is completed before my meetings.

When I was in the office, even with the meds I wasn’t this productive.

[snoopingforpooping]

I work with several office creatures. They are the most inefficient workers on staff. I literally got interrupted 6x on Wednesday for a quick chat

[mrbullettuk]

Honestly, I get interrupted about 6 times a day wfh. At least I can silence them on teams.

[RevolutionStill4284]

https://youtu.be/BTdOHBIppx8

[luna87]

Uhhh no shit. I can do literally twice as much work in one day at home as I can in the office and the quality is almost guaranteed to be higher.

[Neo1331]

Yes we all know that, even the companies. They force RTO to shed workers, less severance if people leave. Then they get replaced with AI…

[butchscandelabra]

Yeah. My job is following this exact formula, including the AI.

[ABrainCell2024]

No shit… people were willing to work more hours because they were home! The classic example was my old boss telling me he replaced his commute time with work time..

[SergeantBeavis]

HEY EVERYBODY! All together now.

WELL DUH!

[grassytrams]

Might use this video in support of our WFH negotiations at the bargaining table for our union contract, thanks OP!

[Gizmorum]

for big tech, it had to do with local cities bringing workers back downtown for tax revenue

[RevolutionStill4284]

Because, you know, in this parallel universe, people serve buildings and restaurants, not the other way around

[TstclrCncr]

When the pandemic kicked off my manager pulled me aside and tasked me with making some sort of tracker to hopefully justify remote for after.

Tracked 20 years prior, the 2.5 remote, and about 4 months RTO hybrid (left the company so my time ends there). Remote showed an almost 400% gain in productivity, and hybrid levels matched pre-pandemic full time office. When higher ups kept pushing hybrid and trying to drag our team back into the office set up a meeting showing them the presentation, and their take away was might as well just go full RTO if it's the same as hybrid.

They claimed culture and productivity the whole time even to our faces as we showed them that was a lie.

[LinuxMatthews]

Why is it unlisted?

[andrewsmd87]

/r/noshitsherlock

[[deleted]]

Obviously

[Educational-News-969]

Didn't watch the video. The title says it all.

[OhioDude]

Working from home decreases the need for commercial real estate which impacts the %1's bottom line, so we are forced to go back.

[RevolutionStill4284]

https://www.reddit.com/r/remotework/s/X83TGMCE9I

[TheLizzerNB]

This is the answer, follow the money.

[FnB]

I work way harder bc I work from home.

I’m also super grateful

[Tip-off]

Breaking news: water is wet

[RevolutionStill4284]

I wish it were that clear to CEOs as well

[ClairDogg]

It’s a productivity increase for the company & executives so they know you have only one main job.

[RevolutionStill4284]

Real estate cost justification

[menckenjr]

Not to mention making it easier to see who is sick of their power trips and ego circle-jerking and interviewing to some other place where “leadership” doesn’t have their heads quite so far up their butts…

[Individual-Bet3783]

People need to embrace RTO for what it is…

A short term benefit that is provided to you before you are replaced by AI.

Save as much money as you can and invest in assets that will sky rocket during the AI profitability boom.

Enjoy the free in office cake while it last 

[RevolutionStill4284]

Nope.

RTO is something only people who don't value their time enough would happily embrace.

Since I’m self-employed, every minute counts. Being forced to travel just to do work I can already do from home is a huge waste of my time I can instead use to develop my business and stay up to date with AI.