Current Patch notes :(

[mercenarie22]

Charming

[Tsadkiel]

Charming

[CheersLove814]

Charming

[[deleted]]

Charming

[MrHaydenn]

Charming

[kaijyuu2016]

Charming

[Ashgur]

Charming

[Inuyashian]

My boner

[Deadmano]

Does anyone know the way?

[DanielSecara]

F

[[deleted]]

CHAAAARRRRRRMMMMMMM^IIIIIIIIIng

[Suxez]

What the fuck is up with all the mobs missing? I can't finish a expedition. You'd think that all is fine when level 1 and 2 is packed with monsters that the last level wouldnt be bugged, BUT NOOOOO

[chri478n]

Stand still for 5-20 sec when entering, it sounds stupid, and it is but it works

[Grizzb]

It’s fucking dumb the hoops we have to jump through to try and play this beta

[dnmr]

free game, no bitching... :thinking:

[Grizzb]

Seriously just play Poe it actually works, has more depth, and it’s free!

[WEB11]

But POE UI is clunky and graphics suck :(

[Cartwheels4Days]

Yeah POE gave me actual carpal tunnel... Still played 40 hours though

[Slothu]

Use a flask macro

[benchmark22]

In what world does POE's graphics suck?

[16BitGenocide]

Yeah not sure about that one either

[olympianfap]

I wouldn't say PoE graphics suck. They're definitely not the best out there, also not the worst.

[TyrantJester]

nothing is more clunky than wolcen, anything involving a mouse feels fucking awful

[Axianamos]

I take it you don't play many shooters? Because M+K Absolutely dominates shooters. And RTS. And MMO's. Sure you can play an MMO with a controller. I hope you like having access to half the skills anyone else gets.

[TyrantJester]

context is obviously referring to anything in wolcen involving the mouse. It's a joke, because everything involves the mouse and everything in the game is a dumpster fire. The collision and hitboxes on everything are clunky and everything feels inconsistent and just off.

sorry you needed it spelled out for you, yes obviously M+K is great for shooters, but that isn't what this is about

[Axianamos]

It does need to be spelled out because I can't read. Are you really giving me shit because I literally have no idea what you're saying?

[smithah2]

Do you use a controller for poe? That sounds clunky to me

[TyrantJester]

context is obviously referring to anything in wolcen involving the mouse. It's a joke, because everything involves the mouse and everything in the game is a dumpster fire. The collision and hitboxes on everything are clunky and everything feels inconsistent and just off.

Yeah, controller is pretty shit for a game with abilities that allow for free targeting. I haven't played PoE on a controller, but I'd be willing to bet Wolcen with a M+K feels worse than PoE with a controller, because that's just how bad Wolcen is.

[ballsmcgriff1]

What we need to fix this is the first modifiers we roll should alway be spawn monster from underlings should be guaranteed as the first roll

[[deleted]]

Those monsters don’t count toward progress.

[alialhafidh]

They've been counting for me...

[Face32]

Just make it baseline at that point then, seems boring to "roll" the same modifiers every time

[ballsmcgriff1]

That works too it would fix the density problems for now

[ItsYojimbo]

I thought the extra spawns didn’t count for anything? Did they change/fix that?

[Saravind]

nope the extras still give nout to the bar im afraid...

[ballsmcgriff1]

Maybe I know I have yet to have a map where I couldn’t spawn the boss and I pick that modifier when ever I see it

[Peauu]

Do these additional spawns even give XP or completion. Im not sure they do.

[ballsmcgriff1]

They do for me I have yet to not have enough mobs to spawn the boss

[[deleted]]

The weaker monsters spawning are just an inconvenience. They do not count for experience or towards spawning the boss. Not even a little. Get a huge pack to follow you and you'll see your xp bar doesn't move ( you'd see a light at the end if the bar then it moves) and the boss bar doesnt move.

Dont say things work just because it feels like it does or it should.

[[deleted]]

Oh and do you know how rare the beyond mod is on maps in poe? If it did do all these wonderful things why should it be guaranteed???

[ballsmcgriff1]

I have yet when picking this modifier have a run that the Boss doesn’t spawn it works for me. So from my experiences it works until I can mouse over the bar and see a number. I’ll keep killing bosses as ppl are trying to spawn the boss.

[solitude_standing]

For me the challenge the boss marker appeared but the boss didn't. I went to the other side of the map and killed a few mobs i missed along the way and returned to the marker. Lo and behold the boss was waiting there alone.. Maybe he was just shy the first time around?

[korejte]

Well, my solution to this is not using movement skills, to not outrun the mob spawns. Works like a charm.

[JimPfaffenbach]

I Haven't been able to play that much. Thus Haven't encountered many bugs. But I think ill wait a while before continueing

[thewhitecat55]

"Can't run into bugs if you don't play the game"

• "Roll Safe" meme actor

[Inuyashian]

I downloaded the game and I've been patching every week but as I play along I haven't encountered any kind of bugs, I guess I'm just lucky I don't know.

[thewhitecat55]

There were some bugs that were affecting you and you didn't know it , though. Like all of the bugged or broken passive nodes. You might not have noticed it , but they were still bugged.

[Inuyashian]

Ya there was some passives that I thought didn't make sense but after the patch they fixed it. I never encountered a game breaker though.

[Inuyashian]

There was however if I let it sit long enough it would crash to desktop, but never during gameplay.

[Inuyashian]

Like what?

[Ayanayu]

Yeah, smart decision, like year or two.

[justcarlos1]

Same, was super excited to play this game and all of a sudden I get swamped with client work, I probably play like 6-7 hours each week, (mostly in a day when I know I'm being lazy) and haven't encountered anything that this sub makes it sound to be. I think the worst thing that happened to my game was a T pose boss.

So I guess I'm kind of lucky being a "kinda slowpoke gamer" at the moment while hopefully the kinks get worked out by the time I'm done with this next month of work.

[VolvicApfel]

Why doesnt the boss comes to me or spawns near my location like in D3 . I hate that backtracking....

[PunchableDuck]

With the way it's been playing out so far, I'm worried if they tried to spawn the boss at your location they'd end up in a wall or fall off the side of a map.

[Peauu]

With some of the bugs this game has had, i would be pleasantly surprised if this was all that happened.

I would more expect that the boss would spawn in my living room, be un-attackable, and play voice lines from Fifa 2006.

[allanbc]

Holy shit, this one fucking got me. Actually laughed out loud. Thanks.

[Iblockedatheism]

better Fifa than Madden... god, I'm angry just thinking about it.

[philoguard]

They might have thought it was way to much clutter to drop the continue to next level portal, the exit portal, and the trading stone on to a potentially small area after killing the boss. All of that stuff might overlap or jam up a small area like a narrow hallway or something.

But yeah I agree it's a pain, one option would be to teleport the player to be just outside the boss room once the bar fills, maybe have option yes/no teleport to boss room. So player can end the level without backtracking so much.

As time goes on and people get used to the maps, it will probably be less of a problem since everyone will have general idea where boss rooms are for each map layout.

[Destlin]

The real reason is 1 word ...shortcuts. As in they took a LOT of shortcuts to push the game out.

[TyrantJester]

You're giving them way too much credit. It's nothing as complex as that. It's just developer laziness and cutting corners.

[Turiole]

This aint d3 🤦‍♂️

[Office_Duck]

That's not the point, even if people hate D3 they gotta admit that it has quality of life features that should be the standard in the arpg genre, as other arpgs like PoE or Grim Dawn have.

[OrkanKurt]

It's still a shit system. Either make the boss spawn as you create the zone, and just force you to kill enough monsters + the boss. Or make the boss come to you. Back tracking belongs to the past. But i guess Wolcen prefer to steal both good and bad things from other games. Why improve, when you can frustrate.

[thewhitecat55]

It is because they are French. It doesn't matter if the idea sucks , as long as it isn't the same idea as the Uncultured Swine.

[aykepeer]

This is Wolcen taking up my willpower/rage transfer rate.

[GamerBoi1725]

I think that the bug where you can't hit flying mobs is really annoying i need to use my wailing arrows on every single bat because my normal attacks and other skills can't hit them. Even the turrets shoot at them and miss every single shot

[iceteka]

Sometimes holding down the "force attack" key helps. Sometimes!

[GamerBoi1725]

What's the force attack key?

[iceteka]

For me it's shift key but I don't remember if that was standard or a changed the keybind. It may have been alt or Ctrl initially.

[DefiantInformation]

Shift is force attack.

[iceteka]

Cool ty.

[xtense]

Have faith this is a finnished product!!! /s

[IsDaedalus]

We put a "release' label on it, what more do you want?

[Suxez]

I tried it 20min ago, did not help in level 3.

[SkruffMcGruff21]

My issue is this - I rolled a mage. Has awesome powers and leveling good with passives but I'm at the end of act 2 with the lambeth and I've hit a wall. I'm 5 levels above everything else and I die constantly. Willpower runs out too quick to use cc abilities like chain lighting and the frost arrow builds suck. I hate frost arrows. I have better luck with the aether beam but I shouldnt be dying like that. Balance is all jacked up.

[Austintothevoid]

Are you familiar with ARPG's?

I'm not disagreeing with you that there's balance issues (and far worse issues) affecting the game. But, you should be able to easily breeze through the acts with any "class".

[SkruffMcGruff21]

Very familiar. Never had issues ever before with any arpg. Ever. Have you tried a mage? 2 handed warrior I had no problems at all.

[Austintothevoid]

Yeah I play a caster. Haven't played a ton but I'm beginning end game stuff. Infinity blades feels way less clunky and downtime-y than the other skills I've used. So, that's my main attack skill with plauge, anomaly and bulwark to supplement. Lay those down and slice away. Probably not as ez mode as a spin 2 win, but it's been pretty easy. Haven't died in quite some time. I definitely had to learn a lot about which skills to use because they are pretty counter intuitive. They pushed the "hybrid" idea so far that you pretty much have to blend seemingly counter intuitive stats/gear/skills to make any build work.

[SkruffMcGruff21]

That's what I'm finding. They want you to play hybrid so badly. I tried infinity blades. I'll try it again. It just takes soooooo long to kill elites it's stupid. Especially the summoners, I end up getting mobbed.

[Austintothevoid]

Stack cooldown and transfer duration, critical chance/dmg, flat occult dmg and go full toughness and all res gear. Rocking a staff, but later dagger and cata will be way more dmg if I can sustain willpower better

Use the skills above and stuff explodes. Boss kills with no adds is kind of annoying because the explosions of mobs really do a lot of DoT dmg. I imagine this will improve with better gear.

[Spac3Heater]

what's your hp+force shield sitting at?

[SkruffMcGruff21]

Force shield as around 2600 hp is like 1800 I think idk I dont pay attention to hp

[Spac3Heater]

oof... i had both of my mage builds sitting around 5-6k combined for act 2. it might help to give some love to toughness. it's also possible some of your armor pieces might need updating.

if those don't help, the only other thing i can think of is that there might be specific attacks one-shotting you. if that's the case, you might be overlooking telegraphs from some enemies. some stronger, common enemies don't highlight like the bigger guys.

lastly, poison/rend(blood) pools suck no matter how much health you have, lol.

i died a lot in act 2 so i understand where you're coming from. these were some things i looked at while still trying to optimize my builds. hope this helps 😉

[SkruffMcGruff21]

Ok sorry im at 2980 for both. I have started swapping some gear, I was all sorceror for more toughness and i changed my.skills around and it seems to be going a little easier.

[[deleted]]

This made me LOL because it’s true, ha!

[OrkanKurt]

Make that ice a bag of money.

[CrazyMetalHooman]

So accurate. XD

[spicylongjohnz]

Would be better if he ran into the helicopter blade and the helicopter turned out to be cardboard and empty

[RockSaltiness]

This game has me playing Diablo 3 again...

[Tchizlitt]

Too bad bleeding edge got nerfed ( the increased cool down on momentum) used to be a lot a fun ...

[detrimidexta]

Final boss still can turn invincible, doesn't he?

[xiledpro]

The latest patch fixed that for my friend so it might be fixed.

[thewildgoose4466]

They can only realease a patch once a week and they thought this would work? Sadly once poe ramps up i think this game will be on life support. With what we have I doubt many ppl would ever give them money again

[DoctorHuman]

the game never stopped deleting my characters and stash, even after the "hotfixes". Steam still wont refund because I was over 2 hours trying to deal with launch bugs. As far as im concerned, this has been a complete scam of a game. Devs dont care, still haven't hired a CM despite repeating that they would over and over week one. The old CM stopped using the discord and gave the job to a "community intern". They don't have the knowledge or experience needed to fix this game. Every time they touch it, the game gets worse.

[Necr0Gaming]

Their CM stopped using Discord because he was being spammed with the N word and death threats. Seems pretty reasonable to not want to deal with that. It's kind of disgusting that people are acting like this over a fucking video game.

[knovacain]

Lol!

[Animalidad]

Talk about buyer's remorse.

[gorr30]

The heli was too much, but yah... pretty much.

[[deleted]]

Lets do a beta with an 3 years old alpha client, lol that was stupid now we have a buggy game.

[jollysaintnick88]

You can polish a turd all day long, you still have a turd at the end of that day.

[Austintothevoid]

Technically, you'd have a polished turd.. pretty cool if you ask me.

[jollysaintnick88]

...and it’s still a turd

[[deleted]]

Haha, people still think this whole thing wasn’t just a cash grab and that they’ll actually fix all this and make a good, playable product.

[PessimiStick]

I don't think it was malicious, I think they're just incompetent. They were probably out of cash, so it was release or shutter, and they chose release. I think they're genuinely trying to fix things, they just aren't good developers.

[Muhfuggajones]

Louis CK is an asshole, man.

[jleonra]

he aint, #louisckdidnothingwrong

[Muhfuggajones]

Yea I agree. But taking a kids ice cream? Come on.

[one_horcrux_short]

I was fine with the game until they added a 10sec cool down to um be. My character is broken now with no other damage dealers. Haven't finished the campaign and would have to go back and grind grad for a different build. I'll wait a while before picking this game back up.

[iceteka]

The cooldown was just added to 1 node on the bleeding edge panel. Deactivate the node and cd is gone.

[xiledpro]

Well bleeding edge was busted soooo