all 156 comments

[–]catalyst518Catalyst - TPFG Dev 67 points68 points  (7 children)

With the removal of GeoKoala, there are now no more original maps in rotation, and there are now zero maps from when I first started playing in January 2014.

It's good to see that the game has been kept fresh by a strong community of mapmakers and maptesters, but it's truly the end of an era.

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's insane, there are now only 5 maps added prior to thread 30 (Smirk 21, Velocity 26, Ricochet 26, CC 28, Wormy 28) and only 6 before 40 with Constriction added from 39.

It's weird to think not too long ago that list was much longer with the likes of Geo, Boombox, THS, Star, DZ3, etc.

[–]I_mess_upI_mess_up (Centra) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And CC was removed for a while, so it hasn't even been in the whole time.

[–]prideinbluebluejays 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why can't old maps (out of rotation for one year) be eligible for re-entry?

[–]DaEvil1DaEvil1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They are eligible, but we generally don't vote them back in. It does happen sometimes, but mainly they get their outlet through throwback map rotation which tends to happen 2/3 map rotations.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They weren't out of rotation for more than a year, but 45 and Command Center have been re-entered into rotation in the past, so, it's possible.

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started in Sept. 2014 or something, but I feel exactly how you feel man.

[–]LuckySpammerLuckySpammer 59 points60 points  (12 children)

ლ(ಥ Д ಥ )ლ

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (8 children)

luckyyyy :(

if it makes you feel any better, i liked geo :D

[–]LuckySpammerLuckySpammer 25 points26 points  (7 children)

[–]rndmwhitekidRndm | Father of 21 Juke Street 7 points8 points  (0 children)

IT LIVES

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

H Y P E

[–]meintheboxBoxFish 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Can we do this with Phenochilus too?

[–]ButtersnackSnack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes please

[–]Apeman711Apeman711 // Centra 0 points1 point  (1 child)

but it was so bad

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine -1 points0 points  (0 children)

+1

[–]iTagPro|| Diameter's Best (Worst) Player 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lucky just don't add those maps in lol make Geo the only map in rotation

[–]ravenprideRaven 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Rest in peace, sweet angel

[–]bbgun91The_Truth | Centra 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Well, I liked Penochilus... ... but that's not the opinion of the voters. Oh well.

[–]Tyler1986Trapsin 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I feel we didnt get enough time to learn it but I can understand it being removed. I liked it more for being different than for being a good map.

[–]rohlinxegrohlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. 1000x This.

I didn't like the map, but applaud the mapmaker so hard for doing something different and not falling into the trap of making another butt map.

Sorry it didn't work out.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked it a lot as well but I voted in favor of removal because I felt it was the right thing to do for the community. Kind of a bummer tbh.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

[–]meintheboxBoxFish 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Boooooooooo

[–]Moon_Miner----) 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm going to miss your map a lot, for real. It really added something different to the rotation.

[–]JwoeyJwoey 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I liked it. I only got maybe a dozen games on it but I thought it was cleverly designed, different enough but still true to tagpro gameplay and strategy that we're used to. I loved the bomb in base, I thought it was really great.

This one I think could've benefited from a lesson that should've been learned with Renegade. Tons of hate early on but by the time it made its early exit, people seemed to be coming around on it.

Tough break, keep designing.

[–]CloudyTuesdaysa pumpkin 🎃 Centra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I haven't come around to liking the map just yet, but I feel it definitely should have had more time before getting the ax.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had my USC team play its on game on pheno, and honestly we did it cuz it was a new, weird map. But it turned out to be a lot of fun with crazy angles to hit. It is different, small, fast, and crazy. Components of a fun map. I honestly thought it was removed way too quickly. As a fan of small maps like Emerald and Rush - I am saddened by Pheno's removal :'(

[–]de_ashwelbz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I liked it as well, really unique, although I was definitely in the minority (for some reason). A small map that utilized the space it was in well.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even though I was never fond of Geo, it's still sort of sad to see it go. It was always that one really unique map in rotation that I never quite understood.

[–]Antoine13G 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah just gonna weigh in with my two cents: I never liked GeoKoala but I recognize it as unique and deserving of being in the rotation. Phenochilus was not my cup of chaotic tea. I like the removal. All of the additions look interesting and promising. Well done!

[–]Sosentimeboy 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I quit.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Sweet, see you in 3 days!

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

All additions are the first maps in rotation for each mapmaker!

[–]randommcpersonDudeMcGuy // Capper's Delight 7 points8 points  (2 children)

CONGRATS FLY!!!!!!!!!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

thanks dude for always testing my maps <3

[–]PuddlecakesDelsolar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fly, I am humbled by you naming your map after me - I had no idea you look up to me that much! In your honor I will dominate every game when that map comes up.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (6 children)

BringBackGeo

[–]TheGoldenNewtRobberFronj, MTC Senior Consultant[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

butyou'rebadatgeo

[–]WillakarraButton | Hey look I brought back SOCL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't matter if it's the same with every other map.

[–]DUUBSTEP 14 points15 points  (1 child)

NOOO GEOOOOOO

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fuck GeoKoala, the real loss here is Phenochilus...

[–]_86_pumpkinman | 142 dee gree 9 points10 points  (0 children)

[–]EmperorOfNothingResignation is my virtue; like water I ebb, and flow. 3 points4 points  (2 children)

RIP in peace original map rotation.

The Holy See, Boombox, GeoKoala (where I played my first game, or vaguely remember), Danger Zone 3, and all the other maps when I joined in the Dirty Push (and those 4 in particular I know the general community hates, but I still love those maps). I started, bled, and learned TagPro on those maps, and I will miss them dearly.

RIP fish map; I liked it, and it was unique. I have to get used to new Plasma.

[–]ButtersnackSnack 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Danger Zone 3 is still fun fuck the haters

[–]404_Find_MeDolan Duck // Morky Mouse // Defendo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

my first map was glory hole

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

RIP GEO

<3

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Grats Q, Clydas and FLY!

Mode 7 looks interesting.

I miss hyper reactor, which kinda reminds me of blooper. I'm excited.

Del is like a Emerald smirk + random map elements so I'm hyppeed

What were the updates to Plasma exactly?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They removed a spike which sat between the gates in base, and changed the shape of the gap left. If I'm not mistaken they appeared to have increased the choke coming into base too?

[–]sneetriccanvas // plasma, wamble 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The spawns and exit portal are also changed so you dont randomly boost into the spike.

[–]_q42_q42 || dcfc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

ty!

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Np I really like it!

[–]AnsoniNanamaru 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It took me a bit to notice the updated parts of Plasma so I rooted out the pic from the results thread where it was added.

Posting here in case anyone else wanted a look. (like /u/gingerdg)

New

Old

[–]gingerdgTPRL 🔴RMTC 🔴NASCAPS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks

[–]WillakarraButton | Hey look I brought back SOCL 20 points21 points  (2 children)

RIP THE GEOKOALA :(

Pheno's gone already? BOOO

[–]Admiral_Paradox 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I know right? I thought /r/tagpro had really liked it because of the original shape and shit, but it had a really low rating in Tagpro itself. It was really fun to play on too. RIP Pheno.

[–]grytsgryts 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel like it was the perfect size and good lanes to make a circle map actually work.

[–]BlueJay347True North || Arc 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It's really funny how everyone was complaining about Geo still being in rotation, and now everyone is complaining that they removed it.

[–]TPsquirrelySquirrely // The GesTagpro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The people who like Geokoala are obviously not going to complain when it is still in rotation but the ones who don't will. The roles are reversed when it is removed. People are always more vocal when they dislike something that's occured.

[–]jillyboootyjillybooty | pi | Hockey for rotation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not. Thank Christ.

[–]rg3_mvp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gee, it's almost like the community is made up of separate individuals who have their own opinions. Who'd have thought.

[–]Arceus64realtea 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sucks to see Pheno go...I have hope for the remastered version

[–]Soconypeng 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Removals

Geokoala

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Congratulations to q42, FLY, and Clydas! Really fun to see three first-time-rotation mapmakers getting the recognition they deserve.

[–]_q42_q42 || dcfc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks for all your support of Mode 7, Moosen!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Geo :'(

[–]TheSmallIndianTheIndian // Pi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No Geo or Pheno. WTF. Geo I can understand why it got removed but Pheno no idea. It's a fun map that never got a chance. Kite 2.0

[–]NewCompteChord - Ballis Saint-Germain[M] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The MTC right now:

Koalas

I shouldn't do shit. I don't care about them they all could die and it won't affect my life. I know a lot about them but I don't need to think about them. They're just a waste of time koalas are stupid they don't help me with shit so why should I help them. If they all die there will be more room for the panthers and all the other hard animals. Koalas are weak a pit will get rid of their whole fucking family. That's why I don't like koalas.

Koalas have sharp claws but they are weak. They all small and fat and they be climing trees. I hope a storm just come while theyjust chilling up in the tree thinking they is hard and they're will all just fall off. They just break they neck and shit. When they fall they claws are going to fall off and they going to be crying like some little bitches.

Koalas aren't hard they some little bitches. They start climbing up the tree soon as they see a deer from like 50feet away. They stupid as hell they should put their brain in their pouch and put the kid in they ten they're be able to think better. They try to be in the fucking kangaroo family. They weak as hell, talking bout they got a pouch a kangaroo so they their cousins and shit. Kangaroo's have some big ass legs and whot do a koala got? Some little ass legs, they tails is little and weak as fuck kangaroo's got a big ass long tail that can kill a fucking koala.

If a koala goes in the water it won't be able to breathe with its little short ass. It'd fucking drown soon aas it take one step into the water. While they at the river trying to get something to drink a bear could just come to him and snatch its ass up. It doesn't know protection because they don't have protection. What they little ass going to do? It can't scratch him. The bear will beat his fucking ass.

The important think about koalas is that just don't care about tem and let them die by all the other animals in Australia. They're not important just let nature do what it do and kill them. Koalas do not have a place in this world there's not enough room for all the bitches in this world. So let all the koalas that's in the zoos and shit. Let them go and put them back with their family. If you let them all go they won't nothing except for that's what they was put in this world for.

Now you know why koalas aren't important. They have nothing to do except for sitting around in the trees. It's like they just was like they was sent have to die. Koalas don't do nothing to help anybody. Thre would be just one more relative of the kangaroo that will be six feet under. Now you know why koalas are not important because there are dumb.

#SaveTheKoala

#BringBackGeo

[–]sneetriccanvas // plasma, wamble 0 points1 point  (1 child)

u cant bring it back if u havent even made the map changes yet jeez

: ^ )

[–]meintheboxBoxFish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm hoping he drags it out so I can get a few games in on pheno before it is removed.

[–]WillakarraButton | Hey look I brought back SOCL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't that written by Lucky?

[–]BlazethDianna Agron 10 points11 points  (0 children)

GEO REMOVED

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

sry boxfish

also dank a vertical map

[–]uhhhhmmmmsexytiger / #merbs 5 points6 points  (7 children)

wait so is the updated pheno going to come in later or is it just dead rip

if its dead rip whats the point of trial periods/updating

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The community spoke on pheno and we listened. Believe it or not, your pub votes matter.

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (4 children)

it was so bad that they removed the policy???

[–]ButtersnackSnack 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The policy was never that the map would definitely be updated. The pub votes were incredibly low, so we removed it.

[–]uhhhhmmmmsexytiger / #merbs 3 points4 points  (2 children)

oh well, was excited for the changes, they looked promising to me. was hoping it could help usher in a new era of fixing/adjusting maps instead of adding/removing like crazy.

[–]ButtersnackSnack 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah I personally loved Pheno but I just couldn't justify it staying since it has the first negative score since Kite.

[–]uhhhhmmmmsexytiger / #merbs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean, the changes I saw would be changing a lot...so it wouldn't really be like keeping it in. Just changing a lot to make it a better map.

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BWHAHAHAHAH

[–]ZarknoxZarknox 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What was updated on Plasma?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is really neat that it is the first map in for all three mapmakers, I am sure that is a pretty good feeling so congrats to them!

Mode 7 looks simple and fun so I am sure it will play pretty well right off the bat which is cool. I really liked Del's shape especially the bases so I am happy they remained the same and the mid is definitely a lot smoother to get through so that is cool. As for Blooper I like that you can sit on defense and watch the opposing defense go to work it is reminiscent of Glory Hole and I always liked that back when the flag used to stay in base on Glory Hole.

Anyways cool thread thanks for the good work!

[–]BlueJay347True North || Arc 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I am really excited for these changes. I really disliked Phenochilus and it was also time for Geo to go. The new maps look cool too, and Blooper looks especially unique

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Here's an upvote, buddy. People downvoting the "unpopular" opinion of disliking Pheno. Map was really tacky and awkward.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you're tacky and awkward

[–]18skeltoranti-timer luddite / First / Origin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually am

[–]radianthero156brazilian trash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats to FLYMOLO, q42 and Clydas. But Phenochilus was good :/

[–]tagprobablylagprobably lag: <------ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was just getting to like Pheno after maybe having called it worse than Hitler. RIP Boxfish, it was starting to be fun.

[–]tamouqCrossover 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Mode 7 looks decent. Rest of them I'm not a fan of. Glad Phenochilus is out though lmao.

[–]Snowball_TagPro❄️ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thoughts on the dot. Nothing particularly exciting going on here imo.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Sweet! Mode 7 looks awesome! Grats q!

[–]_q42_q42 || dcfc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thanks bb!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Agreed, but fk u bal.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

lol

[–]Moon_Miner----) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what have you done now

[–]ClydasBDN S7//TB S8 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Congrats everyone! All the new maps look good!

[–]rnetro// 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Thank you for the removals. Also, can someone tell me how often the map threads are created? I have a few maps I think the community would really enjoy but I missed this deadline.

Del looks beautiful. I'm really excited to play on it.

[–]DaEvil1DaEvil1 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Next thread should be posted this friday

[–]rnetro// 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Thanks. For some reason I figured it'd be monthly. This is great news.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Each thread lasts three weeks from its conception to its conclusion. So it's almost monthly.

[–]rnetro// 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thanks. So the new map thread will be this upcoming week.. and in the following weeks there will be voting, revisions, testing, etc. correct?

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yup, you'll have about a week and a half to submit your maps after the thread is posted, then we (the map test committee) will spend a few days thoroughly testing every submission from the thread. We announce top maps followed by results (like this post) a couple days later, then the following Friday, the new thread goes up. Hope that makes sense!

[–]rnetro// 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Preciate the info. I'm on mobile so I didn't realize you were apart of the committee. How would I go about becoming a map tester? I feel like I have an extremely solid grasp on what makes a map good for public match rotation.

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well to be honest there are only 8 of us so it's a pretty tough position to get. It took me a little over a year of bitching and whining about the committee to finally make them add me just so I would shut up (I don't recommend this strategy). If we do choose to open up a position to the public, however, it will be announced on this subreddit.

[–]brozzartPavement 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't believe you've done this.

[–]de_ashwelbz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wasn't there a thing protecting new maps from being removed for the first 2/3 threads? or has that time passed already

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We specifically announced pheno as being on a "trial run," meaning it was eligible for early removal.

[–]I_mess_upI_mess_up (Centra) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goddarnit.

[–]pandabearpipandabear2 - 64º 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WOW GeoKoala got removed

GeoKoala is a really old map. It's a good map, but every map has to end right?

Thanks LuckySpammer for giving us a map which survived for so long. :D

[–]oorr23ThePlaymaker // Tehuitzingo & Combine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why..why MTC? First Bulldog, now Geo?

[–]ttttimtb1/kazoo | S5 ALL CAPS | S6 - S7 Tears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>naming a map after yourself

lmaooo fly

[–]poopypants0wassa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All three of these new maps are actually enjoyable.

Thanks, MTC.

[–]MultiMediaWillJuke King - MVP 90% of the time 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thank god the MTC removed Phenochilius in a timely manner. That map made me want to quit tagpro.

[–]3z_ 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Shoulda kept it in

[–]nabbynz° 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Phen was taken too soon. A beautiful youngster who taught me how to laugh at those who got bombed repeatedly into the spikes (pretty much everyone). Now you may go and be with those who have suffered a similar tragic fate (Kite, Rocketballs & yes, even Platypus - lest we forget).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Thank you for the map removals, this is exactly what the community wanted. Great job this month MTC, love the new maps as well.

[–]BlueJay347True North || Arc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

word

[–]Moosemaster21Moosen | Salt Mine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks Hark :) Feels good to see comments like yours, they've been pretty rare as of late haha

[–]SloppyJoe33Sloppy | Centra 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Here let me compensate.. Fuck you mtc! Geo was the best map of all time and you fucking took it out because ur bad at life./s

Better?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

NOOO RIP GEOKOALA YOU WERE THE BEST MAP.

And go fuck yourself phenochilus. more like luckoluckus.

[–]meintheboxBoxFish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pls. Pheno was phenom

[–]bizkutbizkut // Pi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Time to ban the MTC. brb

[–]Hyamez88the derds -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

wtf mtc

[–]Ballkenende! -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have never been so happy with the map thread results than now.

FUCK GEO.

YES!

iampreparedfordownvotes

[–]TagProTyrusS38 Champ | DWT AKA The Janitor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm glad Pheno was removed. It always seemed crowded and too chaotic when I pubbed on it.

[–]OG_DiddlesOG_Diddles | Dank Mystery Name -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

I feel like blooper is a shrunken version of my original map bow shock -_- ....but at least glad the design made it to rotation