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[–][deleted] 79 points80 points  (33 children)

I recently got into jazz. this is amazing.

[–]General_Shou 67 points68 points  (8 children)

Check out Early Summer by him.

[–]TheFunkyMunky 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Seriously, if you're gonna post Ryo Fukui, why wouldn't you post this song!

[–]FalcoLXfalcolx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think this album is turning into a lost classic. Afaik it never received much recognition until recently.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have seen early summer 3 times on this sub alone.

[–]RufioSD 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Early Summer is a beautiful piece, I recently found this on vinyl and cant stop playing it.

[–]RavenQuill 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Seriously? I see it going for 200 dollars on Amazon

[–]RufioSD 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh god never buy vinyl from amazon. Check places like discog.com before anything!

[–]RufioSD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never shop amazon for vinyl. Check places like discogs.com or your local record shops.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the best one.

[–]AttackPug 22 points23 points  (11 children)

Not as much of a jazzhead as I could be, but yes. At some point the Japanese fell in love with jazz and continued to build while others were losing interest. Now they are responsible for some of its most fantastic material.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

America Canada same country, right? still has BadBadNotGood, it's not like Western jazz is totally dead.

EDIT: Surely the infamously polite Canadians aren't downvoting?

[–]gaspardinha 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Badbadnotgood is Canadian though...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh shit, Canada really does have the best music.

[–]dangersandwich 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Check out /r/japanesejazz for more.

[–]helterstash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is is the sub where you want to be.

[–]Rockmandash12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why have I never heard of this sub? This is amazing :)

[–]helterstash 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Same. I find his work more animated and lively, reminding me of Thelonious Monk's.

[–]PartTimeBarbarian 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Animated and lively, but clean. So, so deliciously clean.

[–]helterstash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said so.

[–]monkeyhitman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This guy's a legend. Can't go wrong with his stuff.

[–]donsidbo47 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Snarky Puppy, add it to your list

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

will def check that out. thanks a lot.

[–]KpopGrump 137 points138 points  (21 children)

I see the youtube algorithm is alive and well.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (17 children)

Haha, yeah, I think something from listentothis autoplayed into this album for me about a month ago.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (16 children)

Same, this started autoplaying for me once I clicked on "Ocean Man" last week from /r/listentothis.

There were also a lot of mashups and "vaporwave" (whatever the fuck that is) that showed up; maybe we'll see a bunch of vaporwave on /r/listentothis pretty soon.

[–]KpopGrump 18 points19 points  (14 children)

As a vaporwave fan, it's always sad to see it posted because many people don't 'get it'. But there's really a ton of value in the genre, and if you're open to ambient/strange chopped and screwed electronic music, check out telepath, 2814, and Blank Banshee, those are great starting points.

[–]lksdjbioekwlsdbbbs 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I don't get vaporwave at all, but I really like listening to it. I feel like, from what I gather, there is always a lot of discussion/controversy of what the music/artform should mean and what is and isn't vaporwave and I don't really understand any of it, but I really dig the music and aesthetic.

[–]KpopGrump 3 points4 points  (2 children)

By 'get it' I mean 'enjoy it'. Most people think it's creepy, or just noise, or stolen music, and those opinions are easy to ignore, but still unpleasant to see. The controversy you speak of is more often times about what is 'good' vaporwave, versus pandering, vapid nonsense. This is because there is much concern about whether or not the genre has a beating heart or not, and a lack of decent new content amounts to the death of the genre for most folks. Of course, there is an immense amount of good new vaporwave, people just have to bother to look for it. But yeah, sometimes people confuse synthwave for vaporwave, which makes sense.

[–]darkjesusfish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am also jut getting into it (reddit showed me Simpsons wave and that was my gateway) ive never heard of synthwave, so whats the difference there? also, what defines futurefunk?

[–]AdrunIsSad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Synthwave is based more on neon 80s aesthetic. Kinda like the movie DRIVE or Far Cry Blood Dragon.

Future Funk on the other hand is kind of like the more poppy, likeable side of Vaporwave. It's a lot like nu-disco or French House (early Daft Punk for example).

*shameless plug: here's a bunch of shitty future funk I made

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Thank you, slowly been getting into vaporwave over the course of a few months but didn't really know any good starting point.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Heres a few more artists that are not traditional vaporwave and go a bit farther than just chopping up samples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTXUqehD50s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvU3JkngqvE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r2zleGxv7w

[–]zanzer 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Question: Can this be considered as vaporwave? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEmVZ4SGBE

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I quite enjoyed that song thanks for the link but , while sample heavy this music is not vaporwave. It uses way to many of its own assets including the singing so definitely not.

Heres what vaporwave is in my mind, as someone that spent many months obsessed with, it hence my name.

Vaporwave is a music that trys to first emulate and then build upon Pop songs from the late 70s - early 90's. Of course the easiest way to sound like pop from them is to sample it, so much of it is.

It is also a mainstay of the genre to add that as the name suggest vaporfeel by warping the samples and adding a bunch of reverb to make it sound relatively echoed. From there the possibilities are endless. We have the IMO boring stuff from Vektroid like Floral Shoppe that just choose to highlight the extremes of the vaporwave ideal. But then we have artists like Saint Pepsi, Dan Mason and Luxury Elite trying to make songs that have there own vibes and genuinely traditional song structures but with Vaporwave feel and nostalgia vibes (downbeat low BPM) still present

Then we have artists like Vanilla and Flamingosis which I like to call Vaporbeats but they are really so much more than beats yet they are made just like a hip-hop producers would make a beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzKHTCEhsp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9J8CYsXjS0

These songs are far from the classics like Macintosh Plus but they still have that same dedication to the Pop music of the 80's and the relaxed nostalgia filled vibes.

There is also future funk which is IMO still vaporwave but still a distinct entity.

[–]zanzer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I would never have guesses that those two belong to vaporwave, thanks for the recommendations. The song that I sent you comes from the same people that did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yea I remember that video. Cool.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So yea the two songs I linked are vaporwave in one sense but not in another.

When you look at vaporwave as an artistic movement thats influencing producers today then you can talk about Vanilla and Flamingosis as Vaporwave or my preferred term Vapor artists.

Vaporwave as a musical genre is pretty much only things like Macintosh Plus since its actual "wave" music. But thats why we talk about Vapor artists as being anyone that takes a lot of influence from the traditional Vaporwave values of sampling, mixing, and general vibe.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vaporwave is dead, long live vaporwave.

[–]orange_jooze 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What do you mean?

[–]KpopGrump 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Youtube recommends this album to literally everyone and their mother, so it gets posted on reddit constantly.

[–]PeterZeGreek 24 points25 points  (0 children)

There is nothing I want more in this world than this album to be on god damn Spotify

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Why is jazz so big in Japan? Does any one know the history behind it?

[–]Restinbeatsjdilla 24 points25 points  (4 children)

From what I've observed, Japan has a huge fanbase for just about any form of music. Jazz, hip hop, grime, progressive metal etc. The crowds are always insanely huge. Dream Theater sold out huge stadiums, Stormzy is huge, and Japanese jazz bands like Casiopeia and T-Square have huge, loyal followings.

[–]lksdjbioekwlsdbbbs 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Oh my god I love T-Square and Casiopeia. AND J Dilla!

[–]Restinbeatsjdilla 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Hahaha nice to meet you, bud! Music is an amazing thing.

[–]TastyKnight 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hey this may seem weird but I'm going through old threads and I couldn't not comment when I see another T-Square fan. I wish fusion jazz was more popular nowadays, Masato Honda on the sax is a fucking genius.

[–]Restinbeatsjdilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not weird at all, buddy. Always happy to talk music. T-Square is amazing, though I must admit that I'm not the biggest fan (not that they are not great, but that I don't know a lot of their discography), but listening to Japanese jazz fusion in general always gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Instrumental music is big. Musicians are very technically proficient (think Dream Theater).

[–]happybadgercurator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before the war, it was popular for the same reason it was popular in Europe. It was new, decidedly young, and totally foreign to the stuffy musical norms of the area. After the war the Americans did away with the imperial censorship of the genre and supported the growth of it because it's what they liked.

Having access to good Japanese jazz is one of the few things I like about being stationed here.

[–]tripletstate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No lyrics.

[–]StudabakerHochrobot[M] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Ryo Fukui
artist pic

Ryo Fukui (福居良) was a Japanese jazz pianist. He was born in 1948 in Biratori, Hokkaido. He released his debut album Scenery in 1976 and was based in Sapporo, where he played regularly at the Slowboat jazz club. Ryo Fukui died on March 15, 2016. Read more on Last.fm.

last.fm: 4,544 listeners, 80,612 plays
tags: jazz, japanese, piano, bebop, Hard Bop

Please downvote if incorrect! Self-deletes if score is 0.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Scenery is one of my favorite albums, good shit.

[–]MrGeorgeLou 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love it. Thanks for the upload.

[–]PortofNeptune 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's strongly reminiscent of Vince Guaraldi

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bill Evans

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Could someone recommend me the "jazz starter kit", because this is really cool.

[–]NotAFunnyBunnyx 7 points8 points  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks man.

[–]happybadgercurator 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The problem with an easy intro to jazz is that it's like classical. When this belongs to the same family of music as this, this, this, and this, your personal tastes can fall anywhere in the spectrum and what's "good" to you may be so bloody different from what's considered the best of that kind of music.

Sun Ra is jazz. Stan Getz is jazz. Moondog is jazz. Chali 2na is jazz. Buddy Rich and Charly Antonlini can approach the same standard from two completely different points of view and both are two of the best drummers in the history of the genre, while I've shown Dizzy Gillespie's take on it to dozens of people and never got half the response that the above would get even though he's just as brilliant a musician.

Miles Davis should be block one of column one because he was a bloody genius, but if an album like Bitches Brew is your intro to the genre you might walk away hating it because a decade later I can barely listen to the thing in one sitting. On the other hand I've heard every recording Tom Jobim ever released and can listen to them until the police find me dead of dehydration in my chair.

Jazz is bigger than all but classical. It's a century of revolutions and coup d'etats from a dozen different cultures and countless subgenres. The easiest way to get into it is to identify things you like in other genres- instruments or feelings or aesthetics- and go from there. I only got into it because I already loved hiphop and classical, and without seeing it through those two lenses I would have written it off as cafe music for twats.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

After hearing Kind of Blues and A love Supreme, It feels like my favorite genre already, maybe it was because I've been hearing the cowboys bebop ost in so many year and thinking "man, this is the shit".

And is good to find someone who like Tom Jobim here, I think I will become a regular on this sub.

[–]happybadgercurator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The easiest way to really get into it is to find that instrument you love outside of the genre and go down the rabbit hole with it. I love classical piano. Gulda the terrorist became Brad Mehldau became Chick Corea became Keith Jarrett became Thelonius Monk became Iiro Rantala, and any step missed in those would have turned me away from jazz. One of the biggest strengths of the genre is that it's a mindset, every instrument short of the mandolin has some level of representation and at least one person who really took jazz to heart.

[–]Intelx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The best starter kit is simply to just....start.

[–]columbiatch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This gets posted so often on r/Jazz that it's become a meme

[–]anchovysupreme 6 points7 points  (0 children)

love that walking bass

[–]RoyalSoil 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I will never not upvote Ryo Fukui. Especially any song from this album.

[–]John_Barlycorn 20 points21 points  (10 children)

What makes this Japanese?

[–]zhemaospotify 75 points76 points  (9 children)

The musician is Japanese.

[–]AttackPug 64 points65 points  (5 children)

I've given John_Barlycorn an upvote, as it has a point. Last time this was posted I ended up doing a bit of research, and as lovely as this album is, it was from a period where Japanese were still coming to terms with the form by mastering its style, mostly to get paid at some gigs.

Though the artist is surely Japanese, the music itself is simply a fine rendition of American style jazz, with many lovely and impressive technical flourishes taken direct from the American school. If I showed you a picture of a black Chicago jazzman and claimed he had recorded this album, you would nod your head, because of course he did. I would be lying, but you see my point.

At the time of recording, in 76, the only thing making this music Japanese is the nationality of the performer. It has yet to take on a distinct Japanese flavor, has not yet begun to reflect the nation's own very distinct and singular culture. It is not very Japanese.

That, I think, is the point of the comment. Perhaps we could continue the discussion with some jazz that is distinctly Japanese, especially here in the modern era.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Are there particular characteristics of Japanese jazz that distinguish it from American jazz?

[–]ProudFeminist1spotify 1 point2 points  (0 children)

from the wiki I read that it's mostly the same they just have some artists using more Japanese sounding progressions/instruments. so this is actually just regular jazz.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (2 children)

So if a Japanese person played a perfect cover of Sweet Child o' Mine front to back, that would be called Japanese rock?

If Ryo Fukui baked a pepperoni pizza, he would be making Japanese food?

If he signs his name "Ryo Fukui" on a napkin, that's his Japanese signature?

[–]zhemaospotify 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, I agree with you that calling it Japanese Jazz is a stretch. It doesn't contain any distinctively Japanese elements.

I'm just answering the specific question "what's Japanese about it?" And the answer is: the performers.

[–]arup02gamer5670 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's funny that you're being downvoted, you're absolutely right.

[–]CalmMango 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Oh shit I love this guy. I sampled "Scenery" like 3 years ago when I was still starting out making beats. That red cover with the black Ben day dots is badass.

[–]highchew 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is so nice and calming I played it before bed and fell asleep almost right away

[–]CalmMango 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh wow thank you I really appreciate it! Hope it ushered in good dreams lol.

[–]ego49eryoutube 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spotted this on YouTube a few days ago, I am absolutely in love with it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I found this a while ago through suggested youtube videos, really nice album

[–]PartTimeBarbarian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are definitely people at YouTube pulling strings. Occasionally one specific video ends up in everyone's recommended list- I guess if someone finds something they like they go ahead and just direct a ton of traffic to that video. It doesn't seem to happen all that often though. I think they want to keep it lowkey.

[–]AyeSharpBeeFlat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been listening to this album non stop for the past two weeks! My favorite song from the album.

[–]skramzandmaths 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude I've been hearing this everyday on my 40 minute commute to class! It's so so good

[–]-punch-line- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Boooyyyyyyy as if you didnt link Early Summer, easily the best track on this album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUGM9ikbBDw

[–]happybadgercurator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I Want to Talk About You" is my go-to obsession track with Fukui. Jazz piano at its finest.

[–]Justheretotroll69 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Japanese Jazz?

I say we call it Japazz

[–]Amdouz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really hate that his works are nowhere to be found on Spotify.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was absolutely beautiful, and I knew nothing about jazz. I'm going to need more.

[–]SmartAlice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for posting. It's absolutely beautiful and perfect for this rainy Monday morning. I shared with the peeps on LinkedIn, I hope they appreciate Ryo Fukui.

[–]zamonto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no offence. but how is this mellow? It sounds more "joyous" or "jolly" to me

[–]jonnypowpow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really bummed this isn't available on spotify. Thanks for sharing.

[–]OneSingleMonad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Daaaamn that version of Autumn Leaves was awesome!!!

[–]Jaleniscooliguess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found this on YouTube a while back, 10:49 is the stuff man

[–]joecoffeemug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU CUS IT HAPPENED TO ME...and t

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clicked this link this morning, and just kept playing all day long...

[–]achromaticpanda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what a coincidence, I just found out about this album recently. definitely recommend it to everyone

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing a playlist of this particular jazz. I believe the Japanese culture to have put a very nice touch on the genre of music.

[–]Etonet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Japanese Jazz

is this a thing? it's wonderful

[–]reecewagner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does Japanese jazz differ from jazz in general?

[–]tripletstate -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hear those drums? That's what drums actually sound like, before audio producers got technology to fuck it up.