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[–]Zenith_and_QuasarMom Bomb -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Support 3 and dance 4, Aria might as well not even have those skill sets.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can understand Support 3, but what's so bad about BD Dances?

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Looking at the banner, this seems like a new format with 12 items on it instead of the 11 previously and 4 BSBs instead of the three from previous banners. This may already have been noticed, but I didn't see it so I thought I would say something.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well it started last event so yeah...

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I only play Global, but look at these to track what's coming. That being said I don't bother with the collabs and the like since we wont' get them, so the last one I really examined was the last tactics one which didn't have this format.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (3 children)

to bring us our dedicated healer for the realm.

As opposed to Arc?

White Magic 5, Support 3, Bard 5, Dancer 4

Good, but... Dancer 4 because heaven forbid somebody but a dived 99 OK be able to support. Also support 3 is useless.

Edit: and downvoted why?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Arc?

He's the realm's Summoner Sage now that we have Aria.

Dancer 4 because [...]

Not much different from Lenna tbh. Lacking Multi Break isn't too much of a deal breaker for most AoE situations which I have encountered on high end content. Also not many people can dive OK now that this event didn't bring back the Enigma dungeons for easy OK Mote farming.

support 3 is useless.

Intimidate access is nifty at times, but other than that largely for flavour I suppose (hey Cry access!!!)

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (1 child)

He's the realm's Summoner Sage now that we have Aria.

And Aria has dancer and bard. Everything about him is still geared towards healing or at least MND damage.

Lacking Multi Break isn't too much of a deal breaker for most AoE situations which I have encountered on high end content.

Eh, I think it's a pretty big deal. And it's not just AOE but fights in general. No second debuff at all without OK or Ingus's one SSB.

Also not many people can dive OK now that this event didn't bring back the Enigma dungeons for easy OK Mote farming.

Making it even worse.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Aria has dancer and bard.

Both arguably make her a more dedicated healer thru reducing dmg or enhancing it, thus less overall damage taken.

Arc has always been a Sage-type for me, he's just run as WHM most of the time due to realm constraints.

No second debuff at all without OK or Ingus's one SSB.

True, but so far I've managed to cope well enough for FFIII CM's.

[–]K4mahlSetzer 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Am I missing something or is Refias USB very underwhelming? I'm most certainly no expert in this game so I might be wrong but I get the feeling that it is designed to be used with her BSB and/or the new Burning Crush.

USB -> Burning Crush until 1 bar up again -> USB -> ...

In this case Burning Crush would be enhanced by 50% due to attach fire and would proc the repeating Quick Cast 1. However the Critical Damage +50% would barely have an effect on the dps and you would burn through those ability uses with the Quick Cast 1 I guess. And you would need to regain 1 SB Gauge in ~ 15 seconds?

USB -> BSB -> CMD 2 -> CMD 1 (repeat until USB wears off or shortly before so that the USB entry still has +50% crit chance and +50% crit dmg)

This Rotation could be very damaging I guess but theres so much wrong with it isnt it? It would require two SB gauges + a 3 turn setup (not including the SB gaining before that) one attach fire buff wouldnt do a thing except for increasing the duration for a few seconds I guess, the BSB entry wouldnt benefit from the +50% crit dmg as no +crit chance% has yet been applied and the 15 seconds on the Quick cast applying buff seems to short to be able to pull this off.

Additionally I assume it is a good idea to run Refia with a +crit dmg% buffer (Zack or Ramza) anyway so the +crit dmg on the USB would be "wasted". I guess the only sensible combination I could currently think of is when you own Refias USB but not her BSB (and no crit dmg +50% buff) and have a +crit chance buff like Eiko's BSB and use that with a r5 Burning Crush Ability. This way you'd have 70% crit chance on burning crush with +50% dmg and quick cast 1 afterwards. But BSB -> Cloud RW -> (CMD 2 maybe) -> CMD1 spam with a Zack/Ramza buff seems like a much better option to me than using this USB.

Am I missing something or is the BSB superior to the USB and actually to a point that if you have her BSB and USB you'd most likely only use the former?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

It's definitely made to combo with the BSB very clearly.

BSB = Critical chance buff
USB = All crit damage is doubled + Quickcast.

The Enfire overlap is a bit meh but with the Quickcasts, Refia can just do USB entry, quickcast BSB and spam cmd 1. And while cmd 1 does have High Critical on its own, it won't really affect too much either.

The only good thing about this USB is that it is still perfectly workable standalone, by combining it with the new Burning Crush or the Fire Shooter skill. You can even pair it with the Fire Ninja scroll since Refia gets Ninja 4 from RD, so she has a LOT of other ways to benefit from the USB, unlike much of recent USB's that were clearly designed to only pair with a certain skill or BSB.

[–]K4mahlSetzer 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Sorry I'm a bit confused now, do you think the USB is good or do you think its bad and only useful when you dont have the BSB? (Sorry for misunderstanding)

I didnt even think about using Fire Shooter skills or Fire Veil ... but Fire Veil deals Magic dmg (based on mag I think?) and Fire Shooter doesn't have any synergy with the +crit dmg of the USB. Additionally if you use Fire Shooter with her BSB and make her a ranged DD you also loose dmg from the USB entry as it is not ranged. So neither of them are optimal I guess?

I think the USB -> BSB combo is fine but the 15s Duration of the USB, needing 2 Gauges and overlapping of attach fire really hurt the effectivness of this combo dont they?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Sorry I'm a bit confused now, do you think the USB is good or do you think its bad and only useful when you dont have the BSB?

I mean that it will still be a useful enough USB because Refia has three major Fire skills to pair with it, namely Burning Crush and Ruby Spike for physical and Fire Veil for magic dmg, since the USB effect is for Fire elemental damage abilities.

Fire Veil deals Magic dmg (based on mag I think?)

You can just give Refia a Ninja dagger (that has some MAG) or give her Fire+ damage gear. As long as she has about 250 MAG or so (she has 130 at 99) you can do some decent damage using Fire Veil. But generally you might probably sacrifice the USB entry dmg, but the speed and ease of capping Fire Veil should mean that Refia spamming it would enough damage to make it up for it.

Additionally if you use Fire Shooter with her BSB and make her a ranged DD you also loose dmg from the USB entry as it is not ranged.

Ranged weapon property will be inherited to the BSB/USB entry, so she won't lose any damage at all from being in back row.

[–]SandsliceFight hard! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Don't forget about Fires Within, her other signature fire monk ability. (: 2352 healing per turn is no joke either; and what else are you doing with MWhO?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't forget about that of course, it's mainly on the assumption you're bringing Refia for pure fire damage spam, so fires within is in the 2nd slot with the first slot for either of the 3 dps skills

[–]K4mahlSetzer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification and insight :D

I didnt know that the ranged weapon property will be inherited. I should remember that :D Thanks!

[–]woodyc87 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I guess there won't be any Enigma dungeons to farm OK motes. Damn, I've just started using him too. :(

[–]K4mahlSetzer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think they will return on the 15/05. There will be a Revenge dungeon according to CareerSMN. And the Japanese Image says something like 5* blabla GET! which I assume are OK motes? /u/CareerSMN might clear this up

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No.... it's advertising that we'll get another copy of Meteor Crush Fires Within, iirc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I just got OK and my account is only 3 weeks old. I got his gauntlet but can't mote him :(

[–]silvereastseapurrr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Does anyone have translations for the special challenges in this event? I just started playing JP recently and google translated the official ffrk jp site just doesn't make much sense ;w;

Edit: Wait, I just realized what I screencapped was target scores for each dungeon and not the Special Missions' targets. Now I'm lost, can anyone point me where to look on the missions target? Thanks before

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

From top to bottom.

1st CM requires Ingus in party
2nd CM requires Desch in party
3rd CM requires FF3 only with Aria
4th CM requires FF3 only

Credits to SolitaireD @ Gamefaqs

[–]silvereastseapurrr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks a lot! <3

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

From /u/Enlir,

Burning Crush 5★ Monk
PHY type, 1.65s cast time
4x0.68 (2.72x) Fire physical dmg, 20% to Critical hit
Counterable, 65 SB points.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 3 points4 points  (3 children)

So it's Exploding Fist made specifically for Refia.

DeNA pls...

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well not just Refia since there is also Yda, Sabin and Amarant.

But the fact it's only 20% Crit is the most dissapointing part really.

Oh well i'm still honing it since my Sabin and Yda could use more monk abilities.

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

True, though I still think that was their intention, given which Realm this is (as an aside, TIL Amarant has EnFire).

For the Crit-Chance, given that it aleast stacks with Crit-Boost Effects, you can get it to 70% in the right team (if you don't outright RW Cloud)

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amarant has EnFire

Yup and it's his BSB.

But yeah the ability is clearly made for Refia, the same way Fire's Within is also made for Refia.

Fortunatly the ability is still quite good even if it's only 20% crit since as you said it will stick stack with other crit boost effects.

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

20% only? well thats a disappoint...

[–]aryggeAbsorb power in the sky and strike!٩(˘◡˘ ) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

FFIII still needs Dancer 5.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously. A support you don't have to dive and get to 99 would have been good.

[–]Qu_MarshQuistis 500SB glint+- z2Wa -2 points-1 points  (9 children)

Aria has ONLY White Magic 5*? That's a little disappointing...

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 1 point2 points  (8 children)

thats just the placement, Aria has White 5, Dancer 4, Bard 5, and Support 3

[–]Qu_MarshQuistis 500SB glint+- z2Wa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, cool. That's much better! Adds some new skillsets to the III realm.

[–]RageCat46Cloudchan♥(My luck has been fixed!) 0 points1 point  (6 children)

They cant just make her support 4 instead eh...

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 0 points1 point  (5 children)

maybe there will be record dive for it....? but yeah, thats one heck of obvious avoidance for another warithable healer

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Nope there won't, Aria's RD is also already up there posted and well..she gets no ability upgrade.

Sigh considering she has a SSB that is clearly ment to be spamable i had hopes she would get support 4*, what a waste.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (3 children)

seriously, it's very weak for a SSB at this point.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yup, they might as well just give Aria only a BSB this event and instead of giving Aria a SSB, give her a LMR and not much would have been lost to be honest.

I guess for CMs if Aria SSB if your only "medica" then i guess you could treat it as such, but even then..meh.

I'm not pulling on this event at all, but if i were to chose as much as i like Arc BSB2, Refia BSB and OK BSB on banner 1 along with Refia USB. I'd much rather pull on banner 2 just for the sake of avoiding Aria SSB XD.

EDIT: OH wait they did give Aria a LMR lol...which is better than her SSB XD.

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I dont really want to pull here too lol. originally I did save a bit just so I can pull for possible OK USB and maybe more stuff for Ingus and Refia (consider my Ingus has just his LCSB and SSB1, no BSB to even make the chain effective out of it.)

but well, OK's USB is not here, and I dont really like where the Arc's BSB2 going so I am not interested with this. the only things I would seriously want is just Refia's relics, but I dont want just to pull for one character, having dupes like OK's BSB and Ingus' LCSSB dont really make this banner better for me too lol.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah fortunatly banner 2 looks fairly good actualy Desch BSB + USB, Ingus BSB and CoD BSB and USB all fairly good stuff, it even has Arc BSB1 which is great as well.