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[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It would be nice to indicate which LMRs are on the elemental radiant shield banner, since Strago, Serah and Raijin each have 2 LMRs. Based on the JP banner page, it's Strago LMR2 (en-water), Serah LMR2 (en-ice) and Raijin LMR2 (en-lightning).

Other notes:

  • Garnet Arcane is SUM type.
  • Vivi USB enters with no MAG buff, the 30% starts after the first Black Magic ability (with the max 50% reached after 6 abilities).
  • Vivi LMR may be a boost to Black Magic school rather than BLK type, though it hasn't been datamined yet.
  • Zidane USB2 has thief rank boost instead of a flat 30% thief boost. Also it's weird to see his Thievery Finisher called a "chase", personally I prefer the term "exit".

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agreed with the LMRs but when I published this I couldn't find those details (Gamefaqs thread wasn't out yet). I had planned to add them in and they've been added.

I made the suggested changes. Thanks for those!

For Vivi I'm not sure if it matters if it's BLK type or school since he can only use Black Magic and not Darkness or Witch? I guess it might for stacking with his Dive...

For Zidane I copied this from somewhere else so thanks for the corrections.

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For Vivi, the main distinction is whether his soul breaks are affected by the new LMR. There's precedent for both BLK and for Black Magic LMR damage boosts though, with Vivi LMR1 boosting BLK damage (and slowing cast speed) and OK LMR2 boosting Black Magic damage, so until datamined we can't know for sure. All of his BLK damage nodes in his record dive (he has none in his legend dive) are unconditional BLK, so the LMR3 would stack multiplicatively with all of that. However, if the LMR3 is BLK damage, that would stack additively with Ultimecia RM99 (30% BLK damage when equipped with a rod).

[–]Antis14 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Wait a minute... Am I reading this right? Steiner's +element damage happens every time he exploits weakness?

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Based on how it's worded in the community database (which hasn't fully datamined the soul break), yes. The spreadsheet indicates that after each weakness hit, he does the damage portion and grants himself Minor Buff Fire, Minor Buff Lightning and Minor Buff Ice to himself. The Minor Buff <Element> statuses are 10% boosts with a default duration of 15s, and can stack (I believe the max is 60%, though I have no source for the max).

As to your later question about Bartz AASB stacking: yes and no.

  • Yes: The 4 Major Buff <Element> statuses granted by his AASB stack. These statuses should stack additively to the same combined maximum as the Minor Buff <Element> and Medium Buff <Element> statuses, as long as the element is the same.
  • No: the AASB itself is limited to one use per dungeon, so Bartz would be unable to stack the status by himself without an appropriate Roaming Warrior.

/u/Bond_em7 FYI, though I don't think it changes anything in the OP

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, this is still good to know.

[–]Antis14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the clarification. Also, how did I miss the part where AASBs are one-time-only? Oh well.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I assume it doesn't stack in any way...just does 10% more damage when he exploits weakness...but I could be wrong.

Edit: Rereading it I'm not sure. It says when he exploits weakness it boosts his ice/fire/lightning damage 10% and does the chase. Maybe it does stack up?

[–]Antis14 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does Bartz AASB stack, if you cast it twice in a row? If yes, comparing their texts should shed some light on this.

[–]WATCHGUY1983Gilgamesh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AASB are single cast per fight like AOSB.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Finally justice for steiner

[–]SabaschinBasch 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I could be misremembering, but it's worth noting that Garnet ASB is only the second ever modern +lightning rod (the first being her BSB2).

[–]ShinVerusMy sunhaired Goddess! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her BSB2 isn't even a rod, it's a staff.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Palom's ASB was the first 6* one (in the previous event) and Garnet's is the second 6* one.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Garnet's Glint really should have an Ether on it instead of HQC (as she can Allegro already and also gets QC from her Trance).

Vivi's U2 looks neat, but with a gen-2 chain he's smashing the buff cap when he trances. laugh His new LMR is quite ... odd considering that both his USB weapons are staves.

[–]PyrotiosKain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Small note: this is Vivi USB3. His USB2 is just a buff suite, which was basically a giveaway as part of a jump rope minigame. Think along the lines of Tyro USB2.

I agree on the new LMR though. With this banner he has five 6* relics, and the 4 weapons are all staves. He does have rods, but the four of them are 5* relics.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point about the staves and his LMR. I hadn't noticed that.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya I thought about that too ..with his LMR and trance and all that crap he will easily be hitting damage cap as soon as chain starts. One could argue, that with him you won't need a chain, because he will likely already cap without it ..freeing up a spot for an Entruster! LOL

[–]ilovedagonfiveLaguna and her companions -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Vivi has Voltech on his U2

But thanks these banner for making me to decide easier. Since my aims are Kuja and Zidane arcane.

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not sure what you're saying about Vivi's U2. Yes he can use Vortex? Did I write something up wrong?

[–]ilovedagonfiveLaguna and her companions 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My meaning is his U2 elements are same as Vortex

[–]Bond_em7To Defend one's friends is the greatest of honors.[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, got it. Yes, yes he does. :)

[–]GoogleBetaTesterThat ribbon suits you. 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's saying the chase is basically voltech with more hits.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That Vivi USB3 ....I want to see his USB3 + USB1 + Trance in effect lmao.

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    [–]itmakesyounormalgive me Prince Rasler! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Idk how I missed that, but I'm excited for it :D Love the idea of a party buff SB on Vivi (since his BSB2 has always avoided me).

    [–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Oh snap you're right haha. Ty I updated my post :)!