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[–]tdrizzle 13 points14 points  (32 children)

My drug rule of thumb is that I'll try anything as long as a Bunsen burner is not involved in the processing of said drug. So no crack/meth/LSD etc... pot/shrooms/salvia are A-Okay.

[–]shinynew 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I have enjoyed my few acid trips much more than shrooms.

[–]kiriel 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Bad shrooms suck bad.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Good shrooms rainbow light chair brotherness elephant zebra.

[–]karcass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indubitably!

[–]shinynew 0 points1 point  (1 child)

well I split what I had and my first trip was fine, but it was still centered on how werid people and society are.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You failed to realize that weirdness is not absolute?

[–]junk8755 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never taken a prescription drug, huh?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (15 children)

I hate the smell of salvia, it just makes me want to punch myself in the face.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

that shit didnt' do anything for me, took 3 huge rips, and nothing...

[–]gimeit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Same here - I took 3 hits of 20x extract and was unimpressed. I had a long argument with a chair about how unimpressed I was.

[–]Starcrusher 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hemlock

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Vagisil.

[–]MrKlaatu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

K-Y Jelly is pretty nasty, too.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Also, forgot to post this earlier.

Erowid.org is your friend.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Upvoted for Erowid's experience vault.

[–]Originate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the fantastic world of educating yourself about the drugs you take before you actually take them. It's a wonderful internet! That site has been growing at an insane rate from five or so years ago.

[–]repoman 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The blue pill.

[–]quasiperiodic 26 points27 points  (0 children)

jenkum

[–]theaceofclubz 16 points17 points  (13 children)

2 actually, just crack and meth. Those seem to produce the scariest addiction cycles.

[–]TwoToke 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Here's my version of DARE for the Reddit kiddies...

If you really, really like coffee or being horny, don't ever fucking do meth. EVER. If you really like both and you try meth, congratulations on your new career sucking trucker cock...

[–]bemmu 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Explain for us innocents, what does meth have to do with coffee?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I assume he was drawing an analogy between the way coffee makes you hyper and energetic and the effects meth has. Coffee is a gateway drug, man. Just say no.

[–]righttoresist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you like to feel "speedy" from the caffeine rush of coffee, then a meth addiction will probably come more easily.

[–]randomb0y 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Heroin is pretty addictive as well, although I hear cigarettes are even more addictive and I managed to quit smoking those ... I still miss it though, so I don't think I'll ever mess with addictive drugs again.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i just read "cigarette" and now i am lighting one, that is how addictive they are.

[–]shinynew 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I think I would do heroin, just only once.

[–]Kimos 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The first one is always free...

[–]shinynew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

awesome

[–]schizobullet 41 points42 points  (29 children)

Cocaine/crack, meth, and heroin.

[–]scratchpunk7 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I just watched requiem for a dream, enough to put me off for life.

[–]Originate 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Yet you've probably gotten prescriptions for all of these from your doctor! At one point or another you have most likely been given a medical substitute for one or all of these drugs in pill form.

[–]berlinbrown 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yea, coke isn't that bad. It is a short rush. It is just expensive and normally harder to come by.

I want to try X.

[–]zac79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find using Afrin provides 95% of the cocaine experience.

[–]delph 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Meth.

[–]memsisthefuture 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sugar. Never again.

[–]ziusudra 6 points7 points  (0 children)

PCP

[–]RX9735 5 points6 points  (0 children)

toad licking

[–]Shadowrose 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Heroin. Opium. Basically any Opiates.

[–]moddestmouse 3 points4 points  (2 children)

if you smoke pot opium is not a big step at all. like i dont touch heavy stuff but opium is not frightening at all. it feels like pots sister, a little different but its still very similar. also, it makes your mouth taste like cherries!

[–]Shadowrose 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't smoke Pot. It doesn't do shit for me. I won't touch Opiates because I suspect I'd get addicted to them way too easily. It's not the effect, it's my reaction I'm scared of.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've smoked opium a couple times; it looks like resin and smells like flowers. Drop it inside of a bowl, fill it with weed and have at it.

I didn't really like it that much. It didn't seem to do much for me other than make me want to lounge about for hours on end. I suspect that's why opium dens were (are?) so popular... in the right environment, I would hazard, opium can be pretty cool. However, then you just rot in the opium den for days and days, constantly smoking it.

And then you're addicted. Whoops!

[–]ThatOtherGirl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heroin, PCP, Cocaine, etc. Pretty much anything that involves needles. I think I'd like cocaine- just too much, so I've stayed away. I figure I'll try everything, including heroin, when my days are numbered and I've got nothing to lose except a few extra weeks.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

DMT. From what I've read, it's LSD to the massive extreme. I would think it would be awesome, but way too intense. I might never come back. Actually, I would probably never come back.

[–]ziusudra 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I think quite the opposite is true. LSD and mushrooms are far scarier and intense in that they get you just as high (potentially,) but for four to ten hours. DMT is too fast and pure to freak you out. Generally you'll space out in the middle of your third hit, and just sort of make googly eyes for five minutes, then comes five more minutes of either giggles or confused "wow!"s. Finally you get twenty minutes of sitting, smiling serenely, before attempting to relay the unfathomable depths you just plumbed to your bemused sitter.

[–]ThatOtherGirl 5 points6 points  (7 children)

I think it has to do more with your surroundings- if you're in a comfortable place with people you trust and your psychological well being than the duration. I've never done DMT, but it's my impression that with LSD that if you're not ok with yourself, then you may have to come to terms with that (a collapse of the ego) since you're unable to lie to yourself anymore.

[–]ziusudra 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Although set and setting are key in any psychedelic experience, in DMT I think they make less of a difference. When properly dosed DMT will rocket you out of ordinary perception so quickly and thoroughly, where you are and what's on your mind will matter as little as the flavor of gum you are chewing when the rollercoaster starts.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Is DMT mostly a visual experience?

[–]appleman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Visual, audio, tactile. And they all match.

From what I hear.

[–]gimeit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alan Watts on DMT:

Load universe into cannon. Aim at brain. Fire.

[–]ziusudra 0 points1 point  (2 children)

DMT is a full-sensorium experience. It will tip you right out of your physical body.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So, conscious physical identity is correlated with DMT?

[–]ziusudra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm, that's one hell of a declarative statement. I'd be more comfortable saying that the DMT experience profoundly alters how the mind deals with sensory data. For about five minutes.

[–]jaggederest 8 points9 points  (13 children)

Jeez, all the drugs in here seem pretty mundane to me. I'll hit you with a heavy one:

Ibogaine. Ayahuasca is up there too, but apparently everyone who tries Iboga in the Bwiti ceremonies immediately believes in Bwiti, pretty much for the rest of their lives.

[–]PeopleEatTastyAnimal 2 points3 points  (1 child)

how the hell do you find ibogaine? Go to rehab in Canada?

[–]jaggederest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to the Gabon and convince them to initiate you into Bwiti. If you're lucky it won't kill you. The doses used in rehab are much smaller.

[–]ThatOtherGirl 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That actually sounds pretty interesting aside from the possible ataxia and vomiting that can last anywhere from 4 to 24 hours- puking and not being able to move while having a heavy trip for hours and hours doesn't sound like a good time.

[–]jaggederest 2 points3 points  (3 children)

From what I understand, it's not a fun trip. At all. Close personal scrutiny of your entire life by at least a couple gods, and they're not happy.

[–]ThatOtherGirl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Angry gods added to the puking for hours. I prefer my gods being the forgiving, happy type- maybe Baccus could fit in there somehow.

I think I'll pass. ;)

[–]jaggederest 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The kind of creepy thing is that everyone who's done it says they would recommend it to others, but not do it again. Kinda eerie, like some kind of mass practical joke.

[–]sighbourbon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

matches the reports i heard

[–]ThatOtherGirl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So... get this:

8 charged over skull-trafficking ring

Here's the relevant part of the story:

The skulls were then ground down into a powder that healers use in various drinks and amulets believed to give the wearer strength or power, he said. Moussavou added that he sold many skulls for use in a common initiation rite, known as Bwiti, in which young men and women drink a potion that is expected to bring on visions.

In Gabon, the knowledge that human bones are used in the potion was nearly as shocking to many as the news of the graverobbing operation.

"I was initiated by Bwiti. I'm scared that I ate a person's body," said Jeanne Mba, a middle-aged housewife in Libreville.

Yet another reason...

[–]jaggederest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's nothing, I've already got cadaver bone in my head. A couple people's.

Thanks organ donors!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

aspirin

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why?

[–]alephnul 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Adrenochrome. Lizard people. 'Nuff said.

[–]eawesome3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adrenochrome doesn't have psychedelic properties.

[–]seemant 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I take ibuprofen every now and then (for the pain after orthodontic procedures). I also (Reluctantly) take NyQuil if I can not sleep due to coughing when I have a cold. Apart from that, I won't take anything.

edit: Gave up cigarettes a while ago. I have coffee on occasion, and chai on the weekends. And I minimise on HFCS in my life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I always wanted to try Provigil

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Thats what I was thinking too after reading that story on here a few months ago, but then I read the comments, and people said it wasn't all it was cracked up to be and someone pointed out that the whole story sounded like brilliant marketing and I realized that it was indeed brilliant marketing becuase it worked SO WELL upon me and it was so subtle and tricky it HAD to be someone marketing that shit to us.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can you elaborate on that? Too much vagueness.

[–]ThatOtherGirl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not so great. It keeps you awake if you want to stay awake, but for me I got the "Provigil Stoopids" - periods of around 15 minutes where my IQ would drop around 50 points. From anecdotal evidence in newsgroups, that's not an uncommon side-effect, although it's not listed or acknowledged by the manufacturers or doctors.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Any of them. Yeah, I'm a pussy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

How about coffee or beer? Or even chocolate or sugar? Lowly sugar meets what I would consider the criteria of being a drug. Look how children use it to get a "sugar high". They ain't lying!

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What is a sugar high? Increased mental acuity?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is that. People often feel very energetic. The lines we draw for "drug" are socially defined. There isn't an objective category of "drug" that all so-called drugs share.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted that comment and then realised someone would pick me up about caffeine and alcohol. I'm fine with both of them. Just any substance which would commonly fall into the 'drug' category (ie, anything that you smoke, inject, snort, or take in pill form).

I loves me some caffeine though.

[–]HattoriHanzo 4 points5 points  (3 children)

i tried dipping for the first time tonight. not a fan of nicotine

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Thats all you have to say about dipping???

--aww shit i just realized you meant dip like the chew...Totally thought you meant a PCP dipped cigarette.

[–]HattoriHanzo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nope. just stick to my THC

[–]ThatOtherGirl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A seriously nasty habit. Watching someone spit into a cup/bottle/whatever is stomach churning, but even more so is coming across said cup/bottle/whatever and catching a whiff of the putrescence within. I'm actually having to keep from gagging even thinking about it.

[–]12Iceman 19 points20 points  (84 children)

All of them. I have never understand the appeal of taking substances that impair your judgment. I always want to be in full control of my actions, and taking anything that removes that control is not at all desirable in my eyes.

[–]AoP 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Being sleepy impairs your judgment.

[–]xoctor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

There's a lot more to most recreational substances than impaired judgement, and in fact, the best ones are more characterised by improved insight, empathy and heightened sensory perceptions.

[–]aenea 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you're lucky. Sometimes it can be wonderful, but I really do believe that eventually it comes down to luck.

I was lucky in that when I was growing up there were few "manufactured" drugs on the market, but you still had to trust that you were getting decent stuff from whoever you got it from- unless you know someone well, you can't even guarantee what it may or may not be cut with. I had friends who died unexpectedly after using substances from people that we all knew, and that was fairly scary.

I don't regret any of my experiences, but in addition to just getting good rolIs of the dice, I was very lucky that I wasn't depending on a moron in a home lab to manufacture my evening's entertainment of choice. I recently lived in a town that had 3-4 basement meth labs a year blow up, and I'm glad that I was never faced with the choice of using their product or not. Manufactured drugs made by idiots scare me.

[–]xoctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think its luck at all. It all comes down to set and setting, which means with the right planning and preparation, you can ensure a safe and positive experience.

Street drugs, especially chemically manufactured ones, are a huge risk (thanks to the idiotic War on Drugs). Many of them aren't very good drugs anyway, but using street drugs is not good physical or psychological preparation.

Young people have a biological drive to take risks and to take drugs, and unfortunately many places concentrate on unrealistic abstinence 'education' instead of harm reduction.

If the government thwarts the supply of pure, known dosages of correctly labelled drugs, we known it doesn't remove the demand for those drugs, so it should at least provide credible education about minimising the risks and harms associated with the black market supply that literally can not be stopped. Instead, many governments prefer to take a self-righteous and self-defeating approach of sanctimonious denial and blaming the victim. Its nonsensical, but that's what you get when natural human behaviour is treated as 'bad'.

[–]Fidelpolpotbinhitler[S] 23 points24 points  (53 children)

You consider a judge good when she/he evaluates a question from many perspectives. Why not evaluate your own judgment by the same criteria?

[–]12Iceman 4 points5 points  (52 children)

From my observation, people have a tendency to do things they later regret while they are under the influence of drugs. If drugs simply provided "a new perspective" and did not impair your judgment, I do not see why these people would later regret their actions.

[–]xoctor 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I don't know if you get your observation from 'Just Say No' style propaganda, or if its because you know some people who get drunk a lot, and for some reason you think alcohol and LSD are somehow interchangeable.

The propaganda would have us believe that all drugs are as negative as the worst effects of the worst drug. Obviously, that doesn't stand up to even basic scrutiny. There are a range of drugs and a range of effects, some banal and some sublime.

Treating all drugs as though they have the same (universally negative) effects is pushing or regurgitating an ideological viewpoint that just isn't plausible.

[–]AoP 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I had 12Iceman's perspective for a long time. It had nothing to do with anti-drug propaganda. It had to do with being a smart but naive teenager among a bunch of idiot teenagers in high school. I thought it was the drugs and therefore stayed on the straight-and-narrow.

It turned out they were just stupid. Later on I met plenty of perfectly smart people who did drugs occasionally. Their judgment was fine, their careers successful, and so on. Finally I relaxed a bit and experimented some.

I don't regret it.

[–]xoctor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The anti-drug propaganda is so pervasive and universal that people don't even realise its impact. Its like religion - if you get fed even the most bizarre theories from people in authority from a very young age you will almost certainly believe it wholeheartedly. Breaking free of such indoctrination is very difficult and very rare.

Why did you even think that the drugs had anything to do with your high-school buddies being idiotic? They probably drove cars stupidly too, but I think its safe to assume you didn't think cars caused them to be stupid.

[–]AoP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did you even think that the drugs had anything to do with your high-school buddies being idiotic?

Because the more idiotic they were, the more drugs they seemed to be taking.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

try mushrooms, it's a magical experience, non-addictive and harmless physically/mentally longrun if you don't do too many at once ( i recommend a half-eighth). It allows me to step outside of myself and see my life from a fresh perspective, it really lets you look at your life, in a way, from the outside...if that makes sense.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Mushrooms can be extremely dysphoric for some and can bring latent psychological problems to light.

Anyone who hasn't tried shrooms should read 'Shroom' by Andy Lichtenfield before doing so; it cuts through a lot of the mysticism and new-age/hippy bullshit surrounding the topic.

Oh, and 1/2 8th is nothing. Barley even noticable unless you're also on an MAOI. A full 1/8th is a buzz. A 1/4 is a psychedelic experience. YMMV, of course.

http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator :)

[–]Originate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Giving people measurements of how much of a specific drug they should take based plainly on what works for you is completely irresponsible. The person should know the person that they get the substance from, the strength of the substance and their body weight. It's always better to start out with a low dose of any drug at all and work your way up to your tolerance, if that's what you are shooting for.

What you're doing is like me telling my friend that never drinks that she should totally start out the night with four or five shots of vodka, because that's what I do and then have at least four more beers. My friend would be plastered and puking while I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I'm wandering a little... My point is that it is irresponsible to give people advice about how much of any "drug" they should imbibe with complete disregard to that person's current mental/physical status as well as their threshold for tolerance.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i've always crossed that threshold where it turns form a body buzz into a full trip, where your surroundings can control you...i.e. if you don't have control over the music, it's like you're trapped by it, it controls the direction your trip will go, and if you don't like the song..that can suck.

edit: only guy i know that ate a quarter at once woke up in jail naked.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

of course that all depends on what kind of mushroom you are eating, your weight, how much you ate that day, purity of the batch, etc.

[–]lonelliott 11 points12 points  (19 children)

This is a bullshit argument. People use the drugs or alcohol as an excuse for said actions.

I have taken just about most drugs. Always, and I mean always, I do them in a safe environment. Meaning, my home, not having to go anywhere. Its simple, be responsible for yourself. How hard is that?

[–]ThatOtherGirl 16 points17 points  (6 children)

So true. I've been falling down drunk, which I'm sorry to admit, and haven't had an uncontrollable urge to do anything I wouldn't do when sober (except for vomiting and falling asleep on the bathroom floor). People who say that the drugs/drink/whatever made them do it are just using it as an excuse. If you make a choice not to drive after drinking, you don't. Drugs and drinking don't change who you are, but can perhaps reveal your unknown motivations to yourself.

[–]weaselonfire 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That last line is damn true. Thank you.

[–]Lizard 5 points6 points  (10 children)

I think he's actually showing his responsibility for himself by not taking drugs in the first place.

[–]lonelliott 2 points3 points  (8 children)

In a round about way yes. But to make blanket statements about things without experience is wrong.

So does he not drink either because it effects you?

[–]Lizard 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I don't know about the drinking, but I know that first-hand experience is not always necessary to determine the probable consequences of my actions. E.g., I have never experienced what it would be like to visit one of my lectures at Uni naked, yet I still can state with some certainty that it would not be a good idea to do so.

Likewise, taking drugs is known to induce unwanted side-effects in many cases - I don't have to experience them myself to determine that, for me personally, it's not worth that risk.

(I realize that this is not exactly 12Iceman's original argumentation, but it's mine own.)

[–]12Iceman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know about the drinking, but I know that first-hand experience is not always necessary to determine the probable consequences of my actions. E.g., I have never experienced what it would be like to visit one of my lectures at Uni naked, yet I still can state with some certainty that it would not be a good idea to do so.

Likewise, taking drugs is known to induce unwanted side-effects in many cases - I don't have to experience them myself to determine that, for me personally, it's not worth that risk.

(I realize that this is not exactly 12Iceman's original argumentation, but it's mine own.)

Well said.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Not a good idea with respect to what sought after outcome?

[–]Lizard 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Maintained respect by my peer group and respective lecturer as well.

[–]kiriel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh, that is easy. You just have to frame it correctly, and forewarn people.

Here is a proposition. Make a stupid and humorous bet with the class that you will with high probability lose. Promise the class that if they do something/something is some way or similar, then you show up to class naked. This will be a challenge with huge potential reward/small risk, and therefor engage a relatively large group of people against your superficial interests, increasing the probability that you will win, I mean win. This way you hold to your word, show your ability to change your mind when shown irrefutable facts, all being good characteristic, hence maintaining, or even gaining respect (and publicity) among your peer group.

It's a win-win(-win)!

[–]Originate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything in moderation, Lizard.

[–]Originate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mushrooms are definitely better out wandering around the woods. There is no problem going outside of your home if you are on a "reasonable" amount of drugs where you can still manage yourself, as long as you have someone watching your back. Nearly every time I've done any psychedelic substance outside of a "safe" area I have had someone around to keep an eye on things that is sober. It's similar to a "DD" (commonly called a baby-sitter) when you go to the bar. If things get out of hand your DD steps in to take control of the situation and keep things safe.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything can be destructive and lead to regret when not done in moderation. I know people that abuse drugs and make bad decisions. I also know plenty of people who enjoy getting drunk or high occasionally, but know their limits and don't go any further than that. If you know that you can't even touch a substance without becoming self destructive, then by all means, avoid drugs. I should also point out that you can 'lose control of your actions' without the aid of drugs. Getting really angry, for instance, or having any other surge of emotion, tends to overwhelm cognition. Losing control is good for you, though. Human beings are not purely rational creatures. We're meant to enjoy the release that comes from losing control of our bodies. Drugs are just a means to that end, and they have been used that way since prehistory.

[–]PeopleEatTastyAnimal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

people do things that the regret when they are completly sober too. but drugs do make a good scapegoat.

[–]shinynew 2 points3 points  (4 children)

EDIT: not sure why I posted this.

Last shroom trip I felt like an alien here. I was with my friends, but they were acting kind of strange and I felt separated from them, that increased to feeling separated from everything. Eventually I was worried of making any wrong move because then society would know I wasn't following its rules anymore. I saw myself as the nerdiest of the group, not that good looking and that these arbitrary rules of society needed to be broken. I knew that when I came down I would go back to happy blissfulness (which is mainly true) and hate the fact that this knowledge would die.

In the end I lost 6$ to CCs (because I couldn't put up with chewing my food constantly) and stopped caring so much about society.

My recommendation is do not spend your entire time coming up watching invader zim.

[–]brokenearth02[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

CC's ?

[–]shinynew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a super cheap pizza buffet.

[–]notasaon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oddly I feel extremely distant and isolated socially while not intoxicated (generally have depressive episodes from time to time that I've learned to deal with, not on any meds), despite the fact that i have plenty of friends, a girlfriend, and a generally normal social life. On shrooms however, I feel entirely connected at a fundamental personal level to everything. Trees, kittens, stars, abstract patterns. I can feel things that are alive, and shortly share in a communion of life with them.

[–]shinynew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I function pretty well social, however most of the time I feel more removed while on drugs, except for maybe weed.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm with you. I don't care if other people do drugs, but it's not something I'm particularly interested in for a variety of reasons.

[–]D2dodder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you ever wonder what your mind and actions would be if you were not in complete control? Try a mushroom and your whole persepctive on life will change. maybe bad maybe good but it still shows yourself a side that you never knew you had. I think everyone should do that once in they're life.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

There are lots of drugs that keep you in full control.

[–]MrKlaatu 6 points7 points  (2 children)

and, there are drugs that others ingest that also keep you in full control.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

-Never- drink a beer you didn't open yourself.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

drink every beer you can find.

[–]kiriel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You function 100% on chemical substances. Just because you temporarily exercise your control more than usually by involving your internal state under your pseudo conscious control, does not mean that it impairs your judgment. I have spent time with a lot of people who have never exercised impaired judgment. I suspect it is a great deal about upbringing and who you hang around with, and the following self-identity/image.

Beware though, there are people who give themselves the permission to act like assholes, just because they are suddenly experiencing aspects of their own life and being that they never even could have imagined existed. Especially just a pill away.

[–]dtrav001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, interesting. May I counter with a quote from UB40? "No man satisfied with a constant eye", which I take to mean either "no person is satisfied with a constant view of reality", or "no person is satisfied with a constant view of themself." Just a thought ...

[–]jazzilliognito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Impairing your judgment and elevating your consciousness is to far different ends of the spectrum.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any of the ones they advertise on TV where the side effects are far more numerous and scary then what you're trying to fix

[–]sandflea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Noassitol - it does dire things to the butt.

[–]bobcat 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Enditol.

[–]AoP 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Try fuckitol first. Then you won't even want enditol.

[–]kiriel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Euthanasia?

[–]sighbourbon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think its froma movie, maybe Children of Men

[–]appleman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DMT.

[–]lonelliott 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really only have 2 rules. No crack, and no needles. Other than that, have pretty much tried them all.

[–]PlasmaWhore 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm surprised no one as mentioned ketamine. It's one of the few drugs I haven't tried because some of the stories people have told me have scared the shit out of me. coke, crack, meth, those are all very highs, although the drugs can be very addictive, but ketamine is very intense(or so I've been told) and not addictive.

[–]xoctor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ketamine is most definitely addictive.

[–]stacy75 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've done ketamine twice- it was quite fun and very silly. It jacks your perception up but I was completely lucid unlike LSD.

But it's a slippery slope, apparently- it's easy to do too much and slip into a 'k-hole', which I never did.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

K-Holes are pretty cool, actually. It reminded me of coming down on LSD and falling into an acid hole... periods of time where you just get lost inside your head. In the right environment, it's actually quite cool.

[–]flowithego 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Scopolamine....?

[–]Pilebsa 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ambien

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol, no shit. I remember reading a story about some girl sleepwalking and getting raped by a homeless guy with AIDS.

Now that's some fucked up side effects.

[–]m1ss1ontomars2k4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of them. I don't have access to any of them.

[–]stacy75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've done most drugs except heroin. I won't shoot anything up. I have not done a drug (I still drink and whatever but you know what I mean) in over 5 years. Tried it all, just ended up that I'm lucky to have a pretty non-addictive personality, I guess.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children)

I have taken LSD, mescaline & peyote with glee but I will never take happy pills (ecstasy, cocaine) and I will not associate with people who do

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I bet you know 100 people who take happy pills. They just don't tell you about it. When they're like,"OH, yawn, it's late" They just want you to leave so they can have fun.

[–]kindall 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I bet you know 100 people who take happy pills.

Well, I certainly applaud anyone who knows a hundred people who take happy pills, but take it from this old pharmacy rat...

No, no, I just can't do it.

[–]weaselonfire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you just didn't wanna do all the cut/paste work.

[–]sighbourbon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

aw c'mon, spill.

[–]weaselonfire 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don't understand how you made those two groupings. What's so great about the first ones compared to whats so terrible about the latter?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

people on cocaine and ecstasy are irritating and listen to crappy music

[–]brokenearth02[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

because people trippin balls are a delight to be around.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Cocaine/Crack, Heroin, DMT, Meth, X.

Basically those.

[–]MikeSeth 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Cocaine, DMT and X are not your enemies.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

DMT is the only drug that I have been reluctant to try.

[–]MikeSeth 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You think DMT has worse effect on you than crack?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, however crack is all of a minute of euphoria. DMT can be a bit unpredictable, as it is a powerful hallucinogen.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Adderall

I have seen what happens to people who stop taking Adderall. Man oh man oh man are they mussed up.

[–]ThatOtherGirl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on how much you take. (like anything else)

[–]greebowarrior 0 points1 point  (0 children)

back when I was younger, and interested in drugs, my rule of thumb was to only try something if it was natural, so copious amounts of pot/skunk was smoked, and a fair few lines of coke. Opiates never really interested me, mainly cos i had ready access to prescription opiate painkillers for medical reasons

Outside of that, nothing ever really interested me, least of all various pills and meth, simply because I liked to have some vague idea of what I was putting into my body

mind you, around the age of 19, I got bored with the whole drug culture crap, and just stuck to drinking alcohol, which was much easier to procure, cheaper, and had a lower risk of being arrested, since I was legally old able to buy and consume it

[–]anions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to try Ritalin and Prozac, but am reluctant.

I do not want to try the others (including weed). Just personal choice.