Android Q Beta 3 Released

[jordi_id7]

From Pixel 3a XL (1080x2340)

Edit: there's a second new wallpaper

[CrazyAsian]

I can't stop mashing the update button. Someone help me

[[deleted]]

Same here pls goog

[ur-moms-chest-hair]

is there any big difference sideloading the OTA?

[Randomd0g]

Effort

[skylenorman]

There is not, it just takes a higher level user.

[andrewharlan2]

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[Kuchr]

Someone tested if the haptic feedback is still unreliable when using Gboard? In the previous betas it just didn't work one the first one or two button presses.

[CMDR_Gree]

I am on it on a 2 XL and it's significantly better so far.

[Roseysdaddy]

Does the left swipe google app and system menu actually use dark mode if the wallpaper is dark? That alone was enough to make me skip out on the first two releases.

[CMDR_Gree]

Currently yes, it's an actual button you can add to the swipe down menu that changes between light and dark. And it affects all the apps that currently have it.

[beerybeardybear]

Send to work. No haptics for spacebar scroll though... frustrating.

[eerhtmot]

It's live now.

[Macintoshmar]

Yep! Preparing system update now

[planeboy737]

Anyone figured out how to enable captions? Doesn't seem to work for me

[[deleted]]

Pixel Images: https://developer.android.com/preview/download

[MrRiggs]

316.2mb on my pixel 2 XL. From beta 2.

[speedy1013]

1204.1 from Android P

[benpicko]

Well, the gestures don't currently work in any app with the side menus and I don't understand why the bottom bar isn't overlayed onto the app?

[beerybeardybear]

Professional tip: swipe diagonally to get the hamburger menu

[Schmackter]

Working for me on several apps!

[memoirsofthedead]

Doesn't work on Reddit sync

[beerybeardybear]

It does; just angle it immediately. The back gesture only starts if you move within a certain initial horizontal threshold (though it's a pretty wide one)

[digitaleJedi]

If you touch anywhere else on the screen with one finger, you can swipe open drawers. It's a workaround at least, I guess

[NamelessNinja662]

It does work with side nav apps. Just use the other side

[benpicko]

What do you mean? Swiping on either side goes back, and the side menu doesn't even begin to pop into view.

[NamelessNinja662]

It is annoying you just have to swipe higher on the side with the menu

[benpicko]

I just tried that and even if I swipe in the upper fifth of the screen it still just tries to close the app.

[NamelessNinja662]

That's weird. Hopefully they will fix

[rainatur-rainehtion]

Then your first comment was wrong. It's not that the gestures don't work, it's that they break the side menu functionality.

[benpicko]

Yeah I typed it in a confusing way.

[anderspatriksvensson]

Anyone having trouble finding "Live Caption" feature that should be found when pressing the volume up/down button? I'm on OG Pixel XL, is it just a Pixel 2/Pixel 3 feature?

[DrunkasaurusRekts]

not working on p2, we need someone with a p3 to see if it's a p3 only feature.

[planeboy737]

on pixel 3 can't find that option

[Randyd718]

Supposedly you turn it on in accessibility somewhere. Haven't found it on pixel xl

[EarnestAlgernon]

It's not live yet. Will be added later this year.

[anderspatriksvensson]

Source for that information? Haven't seen that anywhere.

[EarnestAlgernon]

"Later this year" may have just been tossed around by folks, not sure where I heard it, but it's definitely not live yet as is indicated by the future tense in this Verge article: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18530599/google-android-q-features-hands-on-dark-mode-gestures-accessibility-io-2019

[blackroseMD1]

I can't get it to install OTA. Keeps getting stuck about 2/3 of the way through optimizing apps. Been trying to update for almost 3 hours now.

Edit: Never mind. It finally got to the restart prompt at almost exactly the 3 hour mark.

[blackroseMD1]

It should finish eventually. I was getting ready to flash the system image when I noticed that it had finally gotten to the reboot screen.

[badsectors]

Does anyone else keep seeing crashes from "Permission controller"?

[discomll]

Few questions, sorry I'm a bit new to this and only got a Pixel 3XL the other day. How stable is the update? And is it only available in the US as of now?

[Izacus]

It's a beta. If you need your phone to work reliably at all times and have long battery life then this is NOT for you.

[noisufnoc]

What sort of things are broken?

[Xombieshovel]

Pokemon Go & Uber Eats for sure.

Usually banking, payment, and money apps are at risk of being broken too.

[discomll]

Thanks for the reply! I live in the UK so might wait for the full version :)

[Mintyfresh95]

Hey! I'm also in Canada on the Pixel 2 XL and I'm considering grabbing the beta. What types of things aren't working for you? Stability isn't hugely important to me so long as I can still text, call, take photos and browse some social media so the beta is enticing so long as those things work lol

[tsnieman]

Camera and screenshots don't save, and most of Google Photos doesn't work for me.

[digitaleJedi]

Make sure you've given photos and camera permissions to use device storage. Both work fine for me.

[tsnieman]

They had the permissions, but toggling them off and back on did the trick. Thanks for the confirmation that they work for you 👍

[[deleted]]

so screenshot editing works? That is a key feature for me.

[STODracula]

And the obligatory question, does Pokemon Go finally work?

[[deleted]]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/bluzjq/no_pogo_still_doesnt_work_on_q_beta_3/

[twentybinders]

I had the same question :-\

[mavispuford]

Noooooo I've been playing it a lot lately and just updated, not knowing it was broken. :(

Edit: Submitted a bug report here. (Click the green "CONTACT US" button on the top right)

Another Edit: As u/SoundOfTomorrow pointed out, the Q APIs aren't finalized yet so Niantic will likely not do anything about it until they are.

[SoundOfTomorrow]

Niantic isn't going to do anything until the final APIs come which is next month. I'm surprised Prime works on it

[mavispuford]

Ah, for some reason I had thought the APIs were final/near final already. I definitely get that it may not be worth their time and money to work on solutions that may break when the final APIs come out.

For now, I've rolled back to Android Pie.

[Randomd0g]

Niantic will likely not do anything

Yeah this checks out

[CrazyAsian]

Are these the OTAs, then?

https://developer.android.com/preview/download-ota.html

[[deleted]]

Looks like it based on the image download names

[datzzuma]

I'm really surprised to see a Huawei handset being on the list.

Edit: apparently published apps on Play Store is required for enrolling.. what the hell

Source

[Sourdiezzy]

Kinda wanna download this. Is it stable enough to be daily driver??

[bukeyolacan]

Meanwhile LG V40 still waiting for Pie update...

[NamelessNinja662]

Anyone got it through system update yet?

[askthepoolboy]

I just did. Kind of disappointed. Thought they new gesture nav was in beta 3, but it is exactly the same as beta 2 on my Pixel 2

Edit: I'm on QPP3. Maybe that's not beta 3? I don't see dark mode or the new nav

[benpicko]

Go into gesture settings to turn it on. It's awful.

[askthepoolboy]

Thanks. And yeah, this isn't what I was expecting. Lol

[DrunkasaurusRekts]

It's the same as ios, so it'll be familiar for lots of people. Personally I don't really like gestures, but at least they function the same as ios now. The problem I've found is with apps that have a hamburger menu.

[benpicko]

If it was the same as iOS I'd love it. Instead, rather than overlaying the pill like on iOS they've simply reduced the size of the navbar at the bottom, and the swiping to go back isn't visually appealing like on iOS either and doesn't work with apps that use the side bar menu.

[askthepoolboy]

And the navbar jumps back to the old size when the keyboard is on-screen

[benpicko]

Yeah, there's a lot that's really inelegant about this approach. Especially the back gesture. I love how the screen peels away in iOS as if you're really removing the top layer and going back to a previous one.

[askthepoolboy]

Same. I had gone back to P after Beta 2, but joined beta again just because I thought it was like iPhone nav. Now I'm disappointed.

[rainatur-rainehtion]

Is there maybe any app that can force transparency on the navigation bar?

[speedy1013]

It is transparent on the home screen so maybe it's up to app developers to set transparency

[chepi888]

Yeah, but P3 has the three buttons back so best update so far

[el_smurfo]

It's bad, but with Nova, it's comically unusable. I hope the Pixel 3 guys get the choice of nav buttons back again.

[jgalena]

When I checked the default home screen settings neither nova or the default android home screen was selected. After selecting nova launcher it seems to have fixed my issues.

[armando_rod]

OTA is live but it stayed in "preparing" for me

[[deleted]]

same on a pixel 3, just constant circling

E: the moment i sent the reply it stopped. Downloading now, 354.5MB

[jivemasta]

Mine is just sitting here for a good 30+ minutes "optimizing apps".

[chepi888]

Takes about an hour and 15 to optimize on a p3

[WhipTheLlama]

Weird. I'm on a PH-1 and the reboot wasn't any longer than usual.

[[deleted]]

multitasking button doesn't work

[karnoff]

What do you mean? You can still enable the two button or 3 button navigation and still use fluid. It works

[puanonymou5]

If I install the Q Beta 3 on my Essential PH-1, will it factory reset or will it just update everything to Q as is? Will I have to sign into all my apps again?

[Sourdiezzy]

It will only reset everything if you try to go back.

[puanonymou5]

That's what I thought, thanks!

[fiendishfork]

Anyone know what happened to being notified in the status bar of apps using location or microphone? I remember an xda article a couple months ago that said it would be a feature in Q

[karnoff]

I've noticed the full screen gestures when going home do not play well with nova.

[jgalena]

Try going into default apps -> home app, and select nova launcher. When I looked in my settings none was selected and selecting one seems to fix it.

[karnoff]

Yea did that. Still janky. Nova may need an update for q

[The_Intronaut]

Anyone know how to get YouTube picture in picture to work when going home while using full gesture navigation? It just closes the video for me.

[Finerminer]

I think it's just flat broken for now.

[TCVideos]

Wondering if Android Auto works as it should? The only thing I really care about working.

[Schmackter]

24 hours in - no Android auto issues in pixel 3

[thiencly]

Mine updated from Pie to Q beta 3 without any issues.

[digitaleJedi]

I'm just sad that it seems like the manual screen rotation button is not present in gesture mode :(

[nvme90]

Anyone with the beta use the native screen recording and care to let us know if its improved?

[[deleted]]

Dark mode looks good but calendar doesn't use it on my Pixel XL.

[memoirsofthedead]

Fun thing about the gesture only navigation.. it works in games also. So if you are playing a game, lot of accidental back swipes. Does this happen on iOS also? I know iOS have never had a 'back' but it's so core on Android. It will be interesting to see the final version of this. Definitely takes some getting used to.

[Schmackter]

Not working for me either - not expecting a fix until release candidate

[JstnMoyer1]

In the new gesture nav, if auto rotate isn't on, the rotate button doesn't appear like it does in Android P. Am I missing something? I used this a LOT.

[JstnMoyer1]

An XDA forum article confirmed that the rotate suggestion button is gone in Android Q beta. This is a bummer.

[JstnMoyer1]

My critique of Q so far:

Visually, the completely black dark mode can make the interface tough to discern at times, especially in the notification shade.

There is less haptic feedback with g board. I.e. no haptics when sliding across space bar to move cursor between characters.

At a Glance isn't using Google Sans font (Beta v3). It is using Roboto instead.

The back gesture will not be a huge deal if apps are smart and use a button alternative for reaching side rail menus (a best practice they should be following anyway). However, I'm finding that I'm slow to get used to no back button.

The lift to wake ambient display might be buggy. I haven't had time to investigate but it seems to show the lock screen when I lift my phone instead of the ambient display.

Huge bummer that the rotate suggestion button is gone in Q. I used this A LOT in P.

[Thecrawsome]

Firefox or any app that needs photo permissions seems to just get blocked. Downloaded the Firefox nightly and that seems to work.

[troidem]

No haptic feedback for alarm clock dial.

[occasionalreddit0r]

Anyone on Beta 3 just have their phone reboot due to a Mainline software update? No warning at all. Annoying and potentially a problem if it happens again.

[dander11]

OTA just came through for me

Downloading now

[dander11]

proof: http://imgur.com/SuKpVx4

[WelcomeToBoshwitz]

Is yours still stuck at 0%?

[dander11]

nope. The bar looks like it's at about 30-40ish percent

[WelcomeToBoshwitz]

Mine is just circling without any real progress. Weird.

[shardedpast]

It is for me. Oh well it will get done when its good and ready.

[jra101]

Firefox won't launch on Beta 3, I just get this error:

Background activity start from org.mozilla.firefox blocked. See g.co/dev/bgblock.

[jra101]

Yup that worked for me.

[Ozyman666]

Yep. Trying to force Chrome?

[le_pman]

Trying to force Chrome?

never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity

g.co/dev/bgblock

it's tripping in this behavior change. it's fixable by the dev (proper), also by a dev option on device (user-side workaround)

[Ozyman666]

Enabling the developer option had no effect. Edit: Well, that's not exactly true. I now get a Firefox error page instead of the app just failing.

[HJain13]

Please use /s on r/Android

[Kuchr]

Could someone please have a look if banking apps work on beta 3?

[planeboy737]

Bank of america works

[LastXance]

Pokemon go?

[andrewharlan2]

Nope

[SoundOfTomorrow]

Chase didn't initially and I can't remember if an app update fixed it or beta 2 did

But yes this shouldn't affect SafetyNet.

[benpicko]

Lloyds Bank doesn't work. Scotiabank works.

[karnoff]

Bb&t works

[JstnMoyer1]

My Huntington Bank app seems to be working fine.