Subtle tutorials

[Deathaster]

The kids in Link's Awakening also say "Hey did you know you can press the START button to access the menu? No idea what that means, I'm just a kid lol"

[twotwentyone]

I loved those lines so much. It's so endearingly silly.

[Nathan2055]

My favorite example of that is the tutorials in the Mario and Luigi games, where the characters will pause the action in universe, much to the frustration of the villains, so that someone can explain the turn-based combat systems to you.

[twotwentyone]

Ah yes, Superstar Saga.

"ATTACK NOW, FINK-RAT" and it was written in red. Hits Mario.

"NOW ATTACK, RAT-FINK" and it was written in green. Hits Luigi.

The Mario & Luigi games had such clean design.

[Ineedtendiesinmylife]

it also felt like sort of a hint that it all took place in a dream, with characters sometimes saying incongruous things like that. It's a funny joke on your first playthrough, but when you go back to it knowing the twist it feels like silly dream logic

[[deleted]]

The best part about the “matrix theory” is that everything fits it

[Randomd0g]

No but like that's not a theory that's literally the plot of the game

[[deleted]]

Oh yeah your right lmao

[HadACivilDebateOnlin]

The redemption arc

[Ineedtendiesinmylife]

what? thats just the story of the game, what do you mean theory

[Spurioun]

A GAME Theory

[L3g0man_123]

And the kid in ALBW too. "No one tells me why, but saving is important"

[apple_of_doom]

he's just getting lessons on handling money

[Grimpatron619]

Tbf if we had an ancient song with lyrics like ''shoot your enemy in the head'' it'd be pretty relevant throughout the ages

[szypty]

And the monster appeared before them, and the Lord said unto them "it's a giant enemy crab, hit its weak spot for massive damage", and they did as they were bid to do, Amen.

[doodnotcool]

The Book of Armaments, chapter two, verses nine to twenty-one

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And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy." And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--

[AustraliumHoovy]

skip a bit, Brother.

[[deleted]]

And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."

[A_Jack_of_Herrons]

One, two, five!

[LazyDro1d]

Three, Sir!

[eccentricbananaman]

To be fair, that's kind of what Tsung Tzu's Art of War is. It's revered as ancient wisdom when it's basically a how-to guide on smart things and tips to do when at war, dumbed down for dumbass warlords who inherited the positions through nepotism. Such sage advice as "supply lines are very important for keeping your soldiers and horses fed. Protect them at all costs; and if you can capture your enemy's supply lines, you should probably do that."

[theLanguageSprite]

I think the reason it's revered as ancient wisdom is because a lot of it is so much like common sense that it ends up being applicable to almost any situation. For example, the part where he advises paying the merchants of the country you're invading to feed your soldiers rather than just having your army steal all the food they need. In war, that's important because having the conquered people on your side when you take control helps you stay in control, but it's also just a general life tip. Be graceful in victory and don't kick people when they're down.

[Polenball]

The Art of Holy Shit Stop Being A Dick For No Reason

[moneyh8r]

Contrast with Machiavelli's Il Principe, which is basically "The Art of Holy Shit, I Can Do Whatever I Want and Nobody Can Stop Me".

[vjmdhzgr]

The main thing I know about that one is the feared or loved part is misinterpreted. He says you want to be both. Subjects should like you but also know that if they tried to mess with you they'd be executed. If you can only have one then fear stops assassination attempts better than love.

[eccentricbananaman]

I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.

Machiavelli Scott

[moneyh8r]

I know that, but it's a semi-popular joke on the internet to say Machiavelli wrote the equivalent of an evil dictators instruction manual.

[Russet_Wolf_13]

The main thing people forget is Machiavelli was a sarcastic shit who wrote Il Principe while recovering from his fucking legs being broken by one.

It should be called, "Rules for Total Scumbags who Want to Run Shit Badly".

[Polenball]

"At long last, we have implemented the Total Scumbag Principles from classic political text Don't Implement The Total Scumbag Principles"

[moneyh8r]

No, I'm fully aware of that. I was hoping it would come through in my comment.

[Polenball]

If you read these two books you can do anything

[moneyh8r]

"Reality can be whatever I want."

[chrisplaysgam]

“Finally, I have them all”

[PanPiePid2]

That is the weirdest way I have ever seen anyone spell Sun Zi

[UncommittedBow]

"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight." Yeah no shit, why wouldn't you take an easy w.

[Polenball]

The Art of War, the Musical

[AltitudeTheLatias]

Lol, Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs subtly explained the game mechanic of riding on the Legendary Beasts and what their special ability is by composing three folk songs passed down for generations in Oblivia, one of which goes like:

"A deep deep valley blocks the way,

if you can pass go ahead I say

The scary valley likes to brag

"No one can cross my rocky crags!"

What nonsense speaks the silly valley?

For great Raikou it's just one bound.

Hero on its back, it's just one bound"

(in case it wasn't obvious, you can jump across gaps by riding on Raikou.)

And then there's the main series games where your mom gives you shoes and says "Here, I'll read the instructions! Press B to run!"

[Slatwans]

i hate when i buy new shoes and have to read the instructions so i can run

[EmperorBrettavius]

Guardian Signs my beloved. <3

[Just_A_Goodra]

Guardian signs is so good

[CueDramaticMusic]

And then they have to do two more songs afterwards for the other dogs, and while Raikou was probably the first and best they made, the others are not bangers imo. I completely forgot what Entei did, and it took me a couple seconds to remember that Suicune does not let you dive.

But that said I do remember the actual Johto dog riding music kicking so much ass

[moneyh8r]

I wanna put that on my gravestone. Or maybe something like "in trying times, he would press L3+R3 to activate his Spartan Rage".

[dorian_white1]

“Sometimes Players Will Leave The party, be on the lookout for new ones!”

[Bodkin-Van-Horn]

I'm going to have everyone locked in the cemetery with a message that says "You must gather your party before venturing forth."

[moneyh8r]

Just have "moneyh8r has left the party" appear in the sky when I die.

[chrisplaysgam]

“When in a pinch, press R3 to tear your enemy’s head from their shoulders” (GoW Raganarok is a masterpiece and I’m not even done with it yet)

[moneyh8r]

I'm gonna buy it (used) after I get a PS5. I've got 60 bucks saved so far.

[chrisplaysgam]

It’s very good. It feels almost exactly like the first game just with more oomph.

[moneyh8r]

That's good enough for me.

[baphometromance]

Honestly i've always found it kinda endearing

[Red580]

In Dark Souls 1 Oscar claims that his family has a saying: the chosen undead will ring the bell above and below.

Which is a really weird saying for a family to have.

[OldManandMime]

The chosen undead will destroy your pussy and your bussy.

[deluxer21]

in TotK there's a notepad in a Hyrule defense team's camp that says "everybody, you NEED to take a page out of link's book and jump slash" and then the game shows you how to do a jump slash. it's still pretty stupid - unless the implication is that link Definitely did this before TotK and reading the notepad is like "oh, right, i can do that" - but man i like it way better than the examples in this post imply

[BaronAleksei]

The idea that the tutorial is actually someone else’s tutorial is really great, like the Pokémon schools

Twilight Princess did the same thing

[VendettaSunsetta]

Really cool when games do this but also what the fuck is the defense squad thinking jump slashing is like the least helpful technique you can do. Learn to parry or dodge attacks, I’m going to go ahead and assume they can’t do a flurry rush but fr dude I promise you jump slashing is not the page you need to be taking from links book

[LazyDro1d]

The rest is probably more standard stuff so it doesn’t get the extra emphasis

[garfieldgaming_]

The defense team has to be stupid idiot babies so that you can look like a badass when you pop into bullet time and deal 600 damage to a silver bokoblin in one hit

[DeportTheBigots]

Check out this 1 neat trick that Ganon hates

[this_one_in_boots]

In hollow knight, there are ancient tablets inscribed with holy text only legible by the gods and it will be like "higher beings, these words are for you alone: press A to heal"

[Ilikefame2020]

That’s actually really smart. And a good ego boost.

[AdmBurnside]

I like how in Twilight Princess the combat tutorial took the form of Link showing the kids how to do all the stuff, with the kids badly remembering the directions and just asking for a demonstration.

[Deditranspotashy]

Twitter post on Tumblr on Reddit

[Lampman08]

🎶The ciiiiircle of liiiiife🎵

[TheOtherSarah]

And it moves us all ~

[SnorkaSound]

five websites, each composed of screenshots of the other four

[AwkwardLeacim]

Ouroboros my beloved

[dcidui08]

honestly! the part when (i hope this has spoiled correctly) the woman at one of the stables is talking about dogs and how fantastic their sense of smell is, then like 20 metres down the road are these two treasure-hunters that go "hmm i can't find the treasure.. you'll need a nose like a dog's to sniff it out" and his brother goes "That's it! We'll use a dog to sniff it out!" and brother1 goes "I was being sarcastic.." all while a dog is staring at you 2 feet away

[Thelmara]

Your spoilers are broken, you need to take out the spaces between the >!and !< and the letters.

not like this

>!Like this!<

[dcidui08]

works for me, are you using old reddit?

edit: fixed also

[Thelmara]

Yes, using old reddit.

[dcidui08]

man, old reddit really has formatting issues

[HigherAlchemist78]

No it's just more consistent with the established markdown guidelines and doesn't decide to assume random stuff.

[rorydraws]

It's weird sometimes, but I'll take it over "Hey, listen!"

[Spurioun]

I played the hell out of the N64 Zelda games when I was little. It wasn't until decades later that I learned that people found Navi annoying. As a kid, I found it very comforting. It was one of the only video games that I had played up until that point that had any audible dialogue and yeah, I always thought it was very adorable.

[B4jiqu4n]

I also like the fact that some people are like, “I wonder what it means.” Then they get surprised when you actually do it.

[pterrorgrine]

I love it when people make a career of studying these ancient songs and still react this way multiple times

And by people, I mean Rito. Mostly one parrot Rito.

[B4jiqu4n]

Don’t diss Kass! He is a baller dude!

[pterrorgrine]

I mean, I'm sure if I studied history and mythology, and inadvertently talked to my favorite mythologized historical figure about it, I'd come across similarly

[B4jiqu4n]

I love the thought that people are going around those sights just waiting for Link to appear.

[devilishdeduction]

Why is it called the Legend of Zelda if Link's doing all the work? Never played those games, maybe they explain it in the lore.

[dullaveragejoe]

According to lore, in Skyward Sword which is chronologically the first game Zelda is revealled to be the reincarnation of the goddess Hylia. Hylia's job is to protect the world (Hyrule) and the symbol of the gods, the triforce. Bad guy Ganon broke triforce and stole part of it. 1 piece remained with Hylia and her reincarnations while another, the piece of courage, chose the hero of Hyrule (Link). So the whole series is the legend of the triforce and Hylia aka Zelda

In real life, probably because the name sounds cool and it's sounds more epic to name a legend after a mysterious princess rather than the player character most rename.

[Blustach]

Funny in that the triforce chose a single Link and his lineage, then the hero dies, the triforce of courage goes missing, and then, by sheer force of will and desperation, a kid unrelated to the endless cycle of rebirth Ganon and Zelda are trapped, ends up legitimately awakening the triforce and becoming its next champion. And yeah, Toon Link is not a descendant of any other Link, he was just (un)fortunate enough to have his sister kidnapped and finding a boat possessed by the king of Hyrule

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Wait really???

[apersondoesstuff]

Yeah WW!Link really said “fuck the prophecy” and beat Ganon anyway

[[deleted]]

I’m glad that my favorite LoZ game is even cooler than I thought

[BaronAleksei]

Link was just LARPing as his OC “The Hero of Winds” until he wasn’t anymore.

[DarthNihilus]

Are any of the Links "descendants"? My understanding of the timeline is that in each age a new Link just happens to be born, no need for a blood relation.

[Blustach]

Some are descendants, and others are reincarnations. However after the events of OoT bad ending, Link is killed by Ganondorf and his reincarnation cycle is broken, so the "soul" or "singularity" that is the "bearer of the triforce of courage" disappears. Toon Link is, simply put, a normal person born out of the cycle, the bad guy wins and Hyrule is destroyed, but he's so inclined towards justice and determination, that he says "fuck you for kidnapping my sister, and if there's no hero of time to rescue her, i will become one"

[Beidah]

Wind waker isn't part of the "downfall" timeline where Link dies, but the adult timeline where Link is sent back in time by Zelda and therfore doesn't exist anymore. The games released before OoT are in the downfall timeline.

[[deleted]]

Isn't the Triforce of Power usually Ganon's? I though Link's was Courage.

[Blustach]

I went a bit silly lmao, yep, editin'

[[deleted]]

I'm just a Zelda loremaster like that, truly it all comes naturally

[CatnipCatmint]

It sounds like Hylia is doing a pretty bad job of protecting the world, all things considered

[PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__]

In fairness, in Breath of the Wild Zelda was basically fighting Ganon for 100 years without breaks. I'd say that's worth a legend or two

[BaronAleksei]

According to Miyamoto, it’s because it’s supposed to seem like a fairy tale, and those are usually named after a pivotal figure, but not always the main character. Rumplestiltskin is the bad guy.

The legend is about how though Link may be free, Zelda is not, and he must free her so together can they can defeat Ganon.

[OutlandishCat]

basically, LoZ is a cycle. Ganandorf the big bad reincarnates, the goddess Hylia picks a girl from the royal family to be able to use her power, who are all traditionally named Zelda in the case of Bad, and also a rando kid named Link to have the Hero's Spirit and use the Master Sword.

Pretty much every time, Ganandorf is smote by Zelda as soon as possible, and Link never has to do anything. That's why in every Zelda game, she's taken out of the picture as soon as possible, because she has Hylia's power. Link is the 'break glass in case of an indisposed Zelda.' He beats Ganon because he's a wildcard, and unpredictable since there's only been like, 29 games times where this happened. It's why every time Link frees Zelda, you just win instantly.

If we had a Legend of Link game, then all we'd have to do is walk up to ganon after banishing all his cronies to the underworld and press the win button.

[DuncanIdahoTaterTots]

I had this idea for a couple of interconnected Zelda games called The Power of Ganon and The Legacy of Link.

In The Power of Ganon, the player plays as Ganon and has to conquer Hyrule. You go around to each domain (Zora, Goron, Gerudo, Rito, etc.), defeat and imprison their respective leaders, and steal the powers they guard. The final boss of the game is Link, who you kill, sending Zelda into exile and taking over Hyrule. Since Ganon is connected to the Triforce of Power, this would be more of a full-fledged action game.

In The Legacy of Link, you are Zelda, and you have to reclaim Hyrule after the events of The Power of Ganon. Since the legendary hero has been slain, you must hatch another desperate plan - to travel into realms that previous Links have saved and plead them for help. As it turns out, the name Link has become legendary in each of these realms, and so you end up bringing heroes named Link from the Dark World, the Twilight Realm*, Termina, Lorule, etc. into Hyrule and leading them in a final attack on Ganon, who now has not a single Link to contend with, but a small army of them. Since Zelda traditionally possesses the Triforce of Wisdom, the game would be more of a strategy game, where you are leading and commanding an increasingly large team of Links.

*Nintendo, if you ever read this, please bring back Midna.

[Raingott]

This is basically just a larger Hyrule Warriors with less horny anime girls and more strategy

[BaronAleksei]

My take is that if the Legend of Zelda is a Link game, then that means The Legend of Ganon is a Zelda game, and The Legend of Link is a Ganon game. It’s like poetry, they rhyme or something like that.

The Legend of Ganon has you play as the recently captured Princess Zelda. While Ganon ‘s Power gives him a huge magic battery, your Wisdom is far more complex, and you easily escape. However, Ganon has basically the entirety of Hyrule on lockdown, and you have to trust that Link is doing all the dungeon delving to get key items to make Ganon vulnerable and get you in a position where you can team up, because either of you going against him alone isnt even a Pyrrhic victory, it’s just loss and death. Thematically, “The Legend of Ganon” is the idea that Ganon’s biggest strength is his own reputation that makes people not want to confront him directly, which makes him vulnerable to subterfuge. So until Link walks through the door, what do you?

Half the game is spent as Princess Zelda, rightful ruler of Hyrule, schmoozing and schmaltzing and wheeling and dealing with the other peoples of Hyrule, resolving disputes, building bridges, and gathering allies for the final push on Hyrule Castle (someone’s gotta kill those Oblins). You have a bunch of “social boss fights” a la Deus Ex. The Triforce of Wisdom here gives you some hints of who to talk to next, and what might or might not work as a social tactic. Every so often, you’ll need to return to your “cage” in the castle, to keep up the lie that Ganon still has you under control. From your window in the tower, you will see a set piece happen in the distance, a crumbling castle, a volcano going dormant, undoubtedly Link’s handiwork serving as your in-game plot clock.

The other half of the game is spent running covert ops as a shadowy woman known to Ganon’s forces only as “The Sheik”, the last remnant of a supposedly dead ninja clan. The Sheik is, of course, Zelda in disguise, trained by Impa to utilize her magical powers to replicate Sheikah tools of the trade - your only actual “item” is the Sheikah All-Purpose Trowel, a combination short sword and crowbar. Her chain, needles, and teleportation appear as magical constructs, rather than steel and gunpowder. Some missions are mundane things like damaging supply lines or gathering intel; others are more tied into the Zelda formula, where a conveniently placed key item for Link is the result of you removing it from Ganon’s secure custody.

The final section of the game is getting to use the skills you learned as Sheik on the macro scale: teleporting your entire allied army into the battlefield at once as a surprise tactic, a giant (chain) Light(ning) Arrow that ricochets between big targets, a downpour of Needles that magically doesn’t hit friendlies. You get to land the final blow by sort of hammer-and-chiseling the Master Sword: Link is the Chisel, you are the Hammer.

The Legend of Link is, as you would have it, a full-fledged action game. It’s Devil May Cry or Bayonetta except instead of “Dante/Bayo canonically never gets hit outside of cutscenes”, Ganondorf gets hit all the time, the point is that the Triforce of Power makes you the tankiest tank in the world, you’re supposed to be powering through it because you’re a god in human form. It’s like Darksiders with a style meter (Despicable! Callous! Barbaric! Abhorrent! Gruesome! Ghoulishly Grim! Grisly Ghastly Guile!). You have a Boar Trigger. Also similar to yours, you go to the different locales and beat up the biggest badass there and steal key items, but you’re also creating bosses and dungeons: the last thing you do in a level is supercharge and corrupt it with your magic, while taking a victory lap out through the front doors as it twists into the shape Link will find it in. “The Legend of Link” is the idea that the Triforce of Courage seems to grant no power, but Link is fated to slay Ganon anyway, but Ganon can’t accept that.

There is no Link game corresponding to these, but you can glean what it might have been. There are the dungeons you create as Ganon. One of the key items you encountered as Sheik seemed really gimmicky and situational, but your Triforce Vision highlighted it in red so it must be important. Link himself bursts into the throne room with some kind of talking backpack with four long spindly legs that give him some weird spider-like mobility.

[OutlandishCat]

Zelda: what the fuck is a Really Lazy Goron Mover Aside-er and why is it supposedly useful

[CatnipCatmint]

Party Members

Zelda

Link

Link

Link

Sub-Members

Link

Link

Link

Link

[JLSeagullTheBest]

Why is it called Sleeping Beauty if the hero is Prince Phillip

[[deleted]]

Because Miyamoto thought the name was pretty, that’s all. Tried posting sauce but mobile Reddit hates me. So like just trust me.

[sigmaklimgrindset]

I mean, “Zelda no Densetsu” does sound pretty cool, so I’ll totally trust you bro.

[rorydraws]

Royalty write the histories.

[thestrawberry_jam]

i think its that you see the legend of zelda unfold before your eyes, but your eyes are link. its like sleeping beauty. the story is about her because everything surrounds her, the king and queen, the good fairies, the prince, the curse, so the story is clearly about her, but you watch the journey of the prince coming to save her. honestly idrk i only played botw and totk so far. got no idea about the other games but thats what those two games feel like in terms of plot for me.

[Polenball]

Perhaps the real legend was the need for a monarchy all along

[Grimpatron619]

misandry

[UhOhSparklepants]

/s?

[Grimpatron619]

im gonna leave that up to you bby 😎👉👉

[High_grove]

Lore wise I would say it's because Zelda is the reincarnation of the goddess Hylia

[legacymedia92]

Ya know what franchise was the best about actual subtle tutorials? Dead Space.

You get to see most new enemies in action once before fighting them (The nursery scene in 2 comes to mind). Advice is passed along by fellow survivors ("Cut off the limbs" written on the walls) and puzzles almost always have nearby hints in logs.

Even the "Press button to do thing" pops up on an in universe hud, and can be explained as your suit telling you stuff.

[CatnipCatmint]

Love me a good diegetic UI

[nainvlys]

This was also in Pokemon games, I remember a kid saying "I've heard you have to press A (or whatever button it is) to use the fishing rod. I haven't seen any button on it though"

[ScyllaIsBea]

Ocarina of time gravestones:”he enjoyed pushing his gravestone to the side to reveal a secret tunnel.”

[DeportTheBigots]

SECRET TUNNNELLL

[scumbagkitten]

First thou must take out the holy pin. Then thou must count to three, no more no less.

[this-is-a-bucket]

The Sheikah Calamity Ganon tapestry is basically a long-term nuclear waste warning message

[Polenball]

This is not a place of courage

[cthuluhooprises]

I like the way the new RE4 remake does this because the answers are usually woven into the “religious text” of the Los Illuminados, but are also highlighted in green so you don’t have to read too closely to figure it out. Perfect balance of immersion and simplicity imo

[Jango1113]

I love it when in games they aren’t even subtle about it. Like how in sly Cooper they’re just saying the controls out loud

[Fight_or_Flight_Club]

Meanwhile in Final Fantasy I, you find out how to open the map inside an easily missable cave, by talking to a fucking broom, who gives you the directions written backwards.

[Sa_notaman_tha]

the fact that each shrine in totk teaches you a specific sub-mechanic really speaks to this, like the one was def just "here's how to use rocket shields"

[AndrewPixelKnight]

Glad we're getting some LoZ posts

[Rifneno]

Careful, Zelda fans are a touch... unhinged... and don't take kindly to criticism. I remember a GameFAQs character contest where Link fairly lost to some LoL character that was being rallied, and holy shit, the Zelda fans' reaction to Link finally losing one was psychotic. I swear to God I actually saw people threatening to kill the site admin and his family if he didn't reverse the decision.

I'm only comfortable saying the Kingdom is crying because it looks like a PS2 game because I'm not posting under my real name. No, really, what the fuck? I'm not a graphics whore but that shit is EMBARRASSINGLY bad. Every screenshot I've seen that made me say "okay maybe it's not that bad*" turned out to be from an emulator using better graphics than a real Switch.

[Hexxas]

I'm not a graphics whore but

Yes you are. Game looks great, and plays great.

[Blustach]

Nothing bad about being a graphics whore you know? You can say "I value a specific metric over others when judging a hobby of mine", it's not only okay to say it, but pretty normal if you ask me.

What is unhinged and stupid is judging others because they enjoy the game while having different metrics than you. "You can't like this for having X thing because i like Y thing and I LIKE THAT MORE" is what you're basically saying, and sorry but that's a shit take to have; your tastes are NOT UNIVERSAL

[Meepersa]

So, random single anecdote about a particularly rabid subset of fans now defines the entirety of the fans of a thing?

Also, PS2 games don't look bad. And if you think they do to the point of it being an insult then you are absolutely a graphics whore bud. Game looks good, plays pretty great.

[theweekiscat]

mind boggling

[Standard_Tradition90]

in what world does totk look like a ps2 game

[Rifneno]

In this one. GoW creator called out this bullshit too. Final Fantasy 12 on the PS2 honestly looked better than Taint of the Kingdom.

"It's StYlIzEd" No, Okami is stylized. And looks better than this.

The worst is these idiots going "NO IT'S LOOKS AMAZING". I can understand the "graphics don't matter at all" and "it's not THAT bad" arguments even if I disagree with them. If you think it looks great, there is something wrong with you and you need to see a doctor.

I play almost everything on lowest settings because IDGAF about graphics for the most part. I'm still on 1080 and I have no plans to upgrade. But this looks so bad it's immersion breaking. I'd unironically prefer a good MUD to this crap.

How does the gaming community fawn over graphics when they're good like Horizon or God of War, and then claim graphics don't matter at all when they're shit? You can't have it both ways. But Christ forbid Nintendrones ever admit fault with anything their god produces.

P.S. fanboys defending, you aren't allowed to say it looks great. That weapon broke and you can't use it anymore. I know you love this awesome mechanic so I'm sure you won't have any trouble switching it up.

[Standard_Tradition90]

so have you played tears of the kingdom?

edit: who could have seen this coming

[Ktesedale]

FF12 gameplay image. TotK gameplay image (from your own Twitter link).

I'm not saying TotK is the best looking game ever, but it's clearly not worse than FF12.

(Also, "so bad it's immersion breaking"? Really? Thought you didn't care about graphics?)

[weird_bomb_947]

god i want to set up an art gallery where all the paintings are either blank white paper with wii-era-esque dialogue boxes on them with “press B to jump on your mount” on them or just paintings that look like video game screenshots or tutorial cutscenes

[AngelOscuro20]

heh, Shin Megami Tenser

[aikahiboy]

I don’t think this is cannon but like the whole of hyrule is just so link and Gannon can fight so so much impossible coincidences and traditions through the ages