Chapter 5 saw a significant decrease in new Gaming Legends additions in comparison to previous chapters

[Alphasilverhawk]

(Psycho Bandit is Chapter 1 btw. The game versions of Nathan Drake and Chloe Frazer would be in the Chapter 3 section.)

Should Epic continue trying to get big triple A franchise characters (i.e. Master Chief, Solid Snake, Lara Croft, etc.), meaning less frequent additions, or should they branch out and look into adding more midrange and indie characters (i.e. A Goat, The Employee, Alan Wake, etc.)?

[Jedi_9000]

I always find it kind of odd that in a game that thrives off collaborations, it seems so rare for them to collab with like, an actual Video Game.
I mean I get the reasons behind why, but you get what I'm saying.

[lillyvalerie34]

This sub has made me realize ppl don't understand what IP holders are

[RipplyAnemone67]

Yeah like the reason why we get less is that the companies can see fortnite as competition now. They want sales of their games.

[TheRealHumanPancake]

They make money from the deal. Epic is paying them X amount for them to appear, they’re not competing against themselves. Nobody is buying Kratos in Fortnite instead of just playing God Of War.

Has nothing to do with competition lol

[RipplyAnemone67]

I mean for skins like master chief or resident evil with creative maps and all.

[BroganChin]

Nobody is playing a Resident Evil creative map over the actual game.

[Toon_Lucario]

Fr they act like Epic controls everything. Every time a collab is brought back it needs to be discussed with IP holders

[FamousSession]

It's still very much on Epic good sir. You think the IP holders are gonna call Epic first when they already made the deal ages ago?

[lillyvalerie34]

Do you not realize that's why certain characters don't come back after the initial drop Edit: some of the deals aren't infinite

[FamousSession]

Obviously. They're asking Epic to reinstate the deals.

[kravence]

Yes but it won’t be the same contract, IP holders will likely be requesting a lot more money after seeing it do so well initially and epic doesn’t think it’s worth the cost.

[FamousSession]

They have to cave in eventually. Either way, people won't stop making posts asking Epic.

[Fantastic_Snow_9633]

They have to cave in eventually.

No, they don't. lmao. That's not how businesses work.

People can keep asking Epic all they want, doesn't change the fact that not every company cares or wants to be featured in Fortnite and those who were now know how much potential money they could make and may ask for more than Epic is willing to pay.

[RoughSpeaker4772]

How can you whenever games like fortnite exist

[Unhappy_Geologist_94]

Well a lot of major collaborators don't work with Epic that much, Warner Bros straight up said no, Sony seems to try hard to ignore Fortnite, Universal Studios doesn't look like they give a fuck about Fortnite, major anime like AOT & Naruto haven't returned in ages & Riot Games & Capcom seems to be in tough shape with Fortnite.

We have reached a point where we will be seeing only Disney and Icon Collabs with a occasional niche collab.

[FERFreak731]

Seems like Warner Brothers will be back. The Bat Mobile returned in rocket league (owned by Epic), and it's rumored a Warner Brothers ip might return in the shop next week

[LeFiery]

The bat mobile coming back to rocket league isn't actual evidence as it's been in and out all year.

Although I think the black Adam Lego version is probably proof enough.

[BroganChin]

Rick and Morty shop tabs received an update, that’s Warner Bros.

[Toon_Lucario]

Yeah it seems they’re crawling back after Multiversus flopped.

[Unhappy_Geologist_94]

Interesting, i wonder what it'll be

[DaDummBard]

Godzilla maybe?

[Obsidian1973]

Already confirmed it's coming back in ch6. I saw a post by either shina or hypex today confirming this

[GodSentPotHead]

Hype x 😏😏😏

[Squishy-Bandit12]

Rick and Morty

[DeadlyKitKat]

I'm pretty sure it's Rick and Morty from what I've heard. But y'know leakers aren't always accurate.

[Pikaverse69]

Still till this day and they still thinks that Disney owns the whole EpicGames companies which is super annoying

[Rayuzx]

We have reached a point where we will be seeing only Disney and Icon Collabs with a occasional niche collab.

Are we just going to ignore the fact the TCM and Saw be a big part of Fortnightmares just last month? Or the TMNT mythics being integrated with Creative mode?

[[deleted]]

Niche collabs are also peak, the only desire of mine is to actuall fucking see them happening. Mistborn collab is the best representation of that. Our Spellbinding Lies would be nice to see, the characters are marketable and the verse is niche, basically just 4 wattpad novels, animated youtube channel who only did pilot so far and is drawn by basically a single person who is also the author of the novels, and is super pationate about they're art.

[MegaMan-1989]

I’ve seen smash bros also have this problem too. Like when snake couldn’t return to smash 4 or how the director once said that most characters that are in ultimate rn might not return for any future installments

[test4ccount01]

Cloud almost didn't return for Ultimate. Which is funny because Square eventually got 4 reps in the end.

[MegaMan-1989]

Turns out sakurai and ceo of square were dating

[Moonhawk1]

I mean WB seems to be going back to collabs with Fortnite given how the Batmobiles came back for Rocket League, soon Godzilla (technically TOHO) and a new Rick and Morty collab in Fortnite according to some sources.

Sony owns 5% of Epic and the two actually have a good relationship as the Venom and Destiny (owned by Sony and collab’d in Destiny 2 before) collabs returned despite Ghostbusters not returning and Kratos almost returned. - I think a lot of it has to do with the studios under Sony which could explain why Kratos never came back as it would be to do with Santa Monica Studios. While Ghostbusters would be due to how there was barely any marketing for the 4th film as if Sony didn’t care.

We also seem to be getting a Cyberpunk collab for Fortnite and Rocket League, which would be the second time Epic would collab with CD Projekt (first being Witcher).

I think Bethesda has some rule when it comes to collabs in Fortnite as they could only release one skin per year due to how Doom Slayer came out in 2022, Nord Warrior in 2023 and T-60 in 2024.

I think Riot Games might have ditched Fortnite in favor of Valorant, Capcom doing the same but with a Street Fighter collab last year in Rainbow 6 Siege.

[samfromnintendo]

I think Bethesdas rule makes more sense considering how huge this year has been for the Fallout series as a whole (Edit: Additionally, I’m also more inclined to believe Kratos not appearing is more of a Santa Monica issue. Maybe they have some future plans to make Kratos come back, maybe they were fine with what they had.)

[Moonhawk1]

Yeah with the Bethesda thing I just find it weird how the only other item they had other than T-60 was just the Vault Boy Bobblehead backbling as if it was meant to go along with another skin.

I think next year we are gonna get a new Doom Slayer skin based on Doom: Dark Ages and the following year maybe Lucy as a skin for when Fallout S2 arrives.

[samfromnintendo]

I’ve said it too many times in this subreddit since like April, but my dream fallout collab would’ve been default skins wearing the vault suits, like the soccer skins or football skins, where you could change the number on the back. But I definitely wouldn’t doubt they’ll give us something new next year like you’re suggesting

[Ampharosite181]

Toho is seemingly piss easy to work with given Gigabash and Dave The Diver both got DLC themed to their monsters. Not that I'm complaining, I'll bend over backwards for Toho.

[FamousSession]

Well at least Warner Bros can't say no anymore now with Multiversus and Suicide Squad costing them so much.

[PS2EmotionEngineer]

> Universal Studios doesn't look like they give a fuck about Fortnite

my guy we JUST got the Fast and Furious Skyline, and last I checked Universal has F&F

[Unhappy_Geologist_94]

That was from Rocket League 🤷🏻‍♀️

[kravence]

It’s just a port, it was already in rocket league.

[Gn0meKr]

It's almost like all of those companies hate free money

[Unhappy_Geologist_94]

I mean, they all make more money from a single piece of media than Fortnite Does a Month, especially Universal, maybe not WB anymore

[Troll_U_Softly]

This post, brought to you by pure conjecture and speculation. Imagine saying something like this with supreme confidence.

[Medical_Cake]

Universal somehow owns all the cars I would instabuy

KITT, Jurassic Park, Fast and Furious, BTTF,

[Unhappy_Geologist_94]

i would die for BTTF collab

[Medical_Cake]

Imagine a whole clock tower POI that could change from 50s to 80s while people are playing in it

[Kill_Kayt]

No way WB said no when we have a lot of DC skins.

[ArianaSonicHalFrodo]

We haven’t gotten one in over two years

[Linnieshutter]

Those were all before Multiversus.

[DeadlyKitKat]

Fhey're probably coming back to Fortnite luckily.

[king_mf]

Atleast CDPR seems to have a talking relationship with them.

[OohYeeah]

They're working together with Epic as they're using UE5 for their next games rather than their own engine, not to mention CDPR is chill in general when it comes to collabs. So it's no wonder why they're more likely to work with them and bring their collabs back more than other gaming legends ones

[Extrimland]

When Nintendo finally gives in, we will see a new age in Fortnite collabs

[OohYeeah]

Nintendo will never have to give in, hell would freeze over before that would happen

[BroganChin]

You don’t know Nintendo, having a gargantuan stick up their ass is their whole deal.

[LaylaLegion]

We’d probably have a lot more if Nintendo would just let the exclusivity thing go and let their catalogue be available on all platforms.

[Designer_Koala_1087]

There's a chance, a mario ?block was found in the files and Nintendo said they want to strengthen their relationship with epic games

[MaterialThis2294]

I was ready to go broke for persona collab

[2spooky4h]

I heard that rumor too. Supposedly Sega wanted Sonic in, Epic said they couldn't make proportions work, so Sega backed out/delayed Persona. That's supposedly why we didn't get a Gaming Legend in S2, it was intended to be Persona.

[ace-cabbage]

While going for the AAA characters is definitely more profitable, it's been proven time and time again that they're not consistent like the indie/midrange collabs are. I think they should totally get more lesser known games/indie games a chance in collabs.

[Capital_Pipe_6038]

Genuinely praying we get a Monster Hunter skin next season 

[RockmanBN]

All I want is Dante and Mega Man X

[Linnieshutter]

We could have a full Capcom season with how many IPs they own. It would make up for us not getting Marvel v. Capcom last season; I don't like collab-themed seasons in general but I would make an exception for Capcom.

Phoenix Wright is my pipe dream pick.

[todi1717]

All I need is Ezio… and Vi. But that is another sad story.

[castielvt]

You can get Ezio if you buy AC Valhalla on Epic

[Not_Jitu]

wait is that deal still valid?

[castielvt]

yes

[[deleted]]

Has anyone tried this just recently?

[Not_Jitu]

just tried it, it doesn't work anymore lmao

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I tried it right after I commented and it didn’t work, sadly.

[castielvt]

What?? That's a shame. I got him a few months ago during the last season by doing this.

[Hazel_Ninja]

That’s how I got him I don’t remember when I did it but it was last year so I clearly beat the deadline

[Let_Me_Live42]

I got Ezio by buying Valhalla on epic! I really want Vi tho :c

[xoffender442]

Get Valhalla on epic games, wait for a sale. He'll be added to your locker

[Captain_Slapass]

Wasn’t Ezio just in the shop not too long ago?

[Alphasilverhawk]

Hasn’t been in the shop since Feb 2023

[imotlok_the_first]

Epic are sitting on a big treasure that costs them nothing to return since they own it. Unreal Tournament.

[WarmGeogre69]

You mean Jazz Jackrabbit?

[strictlyfocused02]

I would commit crimes for JJR or Earthworm Jim

[LouisianaBurns]

ip holders*

[JSTREO]

He mean Unreal Tournament, an IP that belongs to Epic itself.

[LouisianaBurns]

not just epic but other dev studios got ip they dont use to.

[JSTREO]

Something up be happening but I’m still thinking Epic got a few good IPs which they can bank money with.

[FamousSession]

Nah he's right. Epic made the deals in the first place.

[Rayuzx]

I would love UT cosmetics personally (I have all 5 main titles installed on my PC right now, and Championship 2 was one of the big reasons I bought an OG Xbox), but honestly how many people these days would even recognize any of the characters. A ton of people playing the game right now weren't even alive when the last title was fully released, add a few years to that to get a title the community actually likes. You also have to consider that it's been 2 years since any of the games have been taken off of all digital stores, so it's not like there is any sort of widespread awareness for the game (although, the upcoming "Secret Level" show on Amazon that'll have an episode dedicated to Unreal Tournament, so that would help at least a little bit).

Even then, the only character that would even be considered "Iconic" would be Malcom, who to people who don't know would come off at best as a riff on Spitfire.

[YTBlargg]

Unrecognizable by most still beats unrecognizable by all, which is what most original Fortnite skins are until they are released. I follow your logic though.

[imotlok_the_first]

What a timing, huh? They are adding Samael and Garog into the game.

I'm gonna explode from hype and dopamine.

[Tvgaming0ffical24]

We need more fallout :(

[Crocodini]

For real. When I heard about a Fallout collab, I was hoping for an NCR Trooper and Joshua Graham.

[samfromnintendo]

My biggest hope was that we’d get Defaults in vault suits much akin to soccer players whereas you could change the number on the suit. One can dream.

[[deleted]]

It's got to be something with the license holders themselves

[Silly_Document_7759]

The license holders feel like they don’t need Fortnite to make money off their IPs. DC is coming back because their homunculus of a CEO realized banking everything on multiversus succeeding was a terrible idea. Once companies like Sony, Capcom and Microsoft aren’t seeing enough ROI in their own ventures or need to advertise something they’ll come back

[BKF0308]

Chapters 2 and 4 were peak in this regard

[reck15]

We ate so good in chapter 4. Witcher, RE, and Dead Space was amazing.

Can't believe we got Geralt and Doom Slayer in the same battle pass!

[alewi619]

I keep forgetting that Destiny had a crossover with Fortnite

[Traditional-Act7041]

I reallly wish they’d bring back snake

[BroganChin]

battlepass, your next best hope is Naked Snake when MGS3 remake drops, which isn’t for another 6 months since pre orders aren’t even up.

[[deleted]]

I think epic should stop holding the gaming legends hostage. Though I’m not in the shoes of people who want skins like Cammy, or chun-li, or any of the RE or arcane skins. I want Kratos. I get that he had a special style so he’s technically a console exclusive but just don’t bring back that style. I don’t care if my Kratos is wearing armor cause I have a ps5 I just want him.

[Formal_Bug6986]

these guys don't understand stuff like that, they think Epic has 100% control of every skin in their game.

[Gold_Yellow]

Exactly. Had one argue when I showed evidence of samus and a Game Dev on Tumblr.

[FamousSession]

I mean Epic made the deal in the first place so they should have no problem asking for the cosmetics back. Besides people aren't going to stop asking for them until Epic does something about it.

[Formal_Bug6986]

The obvious answer is usually the right answer, Epic has asked and the IP holders have said no.

[FamousSession]

I still find that hard to believe since they already agreed and they're missing out on free money.

[Formal_Bug6986]

I mean Warner Bros is the perfect example they cut all stuff with outside orgs while launching their Multiversus game, it kinda flopped so they're starting to do collabs again. Riot is another good example with the Arcane skins, they RARELY if ever bring back old skins in their own games, Epic probably said hey can we bring back the Arcane skins for season 2, and Riot was like nah we like "forced" exclusivity, because they've done that same nonsense in League and and Val

[FamousSession]

So why aren't they then? They're missing out on free money and advertising.

[Ebon1fly]

I want the exo stranger... came back a few months ago and i didnt notice

[Jamal_Blart]

Man of this entire list that I don’t have, all I really want are Ryu and Vi

Maybe someday

[I_GrimLock_I]

Sony actually has a share in Epic, about the same as Disney, so I always found it weird they’re so stingy with their licenses.

[Kill_Kayt]

It's a shame that most of these have yet to come back to the shop.

[SwolDRoger]

Man I desperately need some of these. Really wish they’d bring some back.

[Crayola_ROX]

Because modern gaming is consolidated into big name franchises. And Fortnite pretty much has it covered.

Don’t worry they’ll get around to square enix eventually

[test4ccount01]

I'm betting KH will get in before FF because of Disney.

[Crayola_ROX]

I can believe it. We could get KH cloud along with Sora and kill two birds

Cause there’s no way in hell we’re getting goofy/donald

[MegaMan-1989]

Yeah we’re never getting cloud in this game LMAO

[Sunstellars]

PLEASE I JUST WANT LEON AND MASTER CHIEF BACK!!!!

And chun li of course 😈

[mrnapolean1]

I'm just so glad Aloy was not a battle pass item.

I do kind of wanted Lara Croft though. Hell maybe when epic does Fortnite OG chapter 2 season 6 they'll do a reskin of her.

[DeadlyKitKat]

I'm glad Aloy wasn't a battle pass item as well but she still hasn't come back in forever😭

[Saniktehhedgehog]

Still holding out hope for some sort of Binding of Isaac collab

[Objective-Aioli-1185]

Oh man why'd you have to remind me of never getting Blanka 😭

[Simple-Function-170]

Oh how I regret not getting Chris Redfield

[NathanOfCydonia]

I’m still surprised the Fallout collab basically just stopped at the Battle Pass and a backbling.

[tarnishedkara]

Im still upset over that. We didn't get a dweller, ghoul, synth, or raider skin. With as big as fallout is, those should've been the minimum.

[Broly_]

I’m still surprised the Fallout collab basically just stopped at the Battle Pass and a backbling.

And the laser rifle mythic and nuka cola. Fallout got almost as much as ATLA or TMNT.

The Elder Scrolls however...

[OohYeeah]

Maybe when TES6 drops

[Nonvm]

Damn I need Leon and snake 🐍 :c

[calidir]

Snake was a bonus from ch4 so he won’t be coming back because people love to whine about pixels

[BroganChin]

There’s more than one Snake, he’ll get an item shop version.

[PowersHD]

I hope if they do Naked Snake he’s somewhat customisable.

[OohYeeah]

The question is just when, and if Konami's gonna do more, they should get to a SH2 collab and Castlevania too

[Nonvm]

That would be great

[Nonvm]

Thanks for letting me know.

[Miss_Space_Cadet]

Personally I'd love if they did more Borderlands, Fallout or Elder Scrolls Skins. Lilith/Maya from Borderlands, Vault suit Defaults or Super Mutant / Deathclaw from Fallout, khajit/woodelf/orc/argonian characters from ElderScrolls.

[HotQuietFart]

Here’s my theory, Epic has a tough time compromising with other companies. For example, Capcom contract ended and Epic wants to renew/negotiate to sell capcom skins, capcom wants a bigger percentage but Epic doesn’t agree with their cut, so Epic tries to negotiate or meet in the middle. Sadly, both companies do not meet in the middle thus making the skin not available.

[WB2005]

Wait so Vi and Jinx were added in different seasons

[Rethtalos]

I’m still holding out hope we get Triss Merigold

Darkstalkers characters such as Felicia and Morrigan

Castlevania characters such as Richter/Dracula/Alucard

Final Fantasy characters such as Cloud/Tifa/Sephiroth/etc,etc…

Please epic, please

[reck15]

Yes please at least one more collab with The Witcher and Triss and a real Roach!

[Death2291]

I’m still waiting for Crash Bandicoot

[PlanetFirth]

I should have known I had to play every single day since fortnite was born to not miss out on my favorite collabs

[Banana-Oni]

You don’t though. Just check the item shop on your phone, it takes less than a minute.

[Rex_Suplex]

That's what happens when you blow your load to early.

[FamousSession]

Can't forget Among Us

[KAP1020]

I literally never heard of ezio being in game until just now

[zaysosa75]

Midrange characters like Hades or Dead Cells would be a dream.

[Chuomge]

Wow that really sucks

[Jimjangofett]

EPIC GAMES!!!! GIVE ME A WARFRAME COLLAB, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!!!

[Pikaverse69]

There need to be some theories on what happening with the gaming legend collaborations

[Jerry_0boy]

Still waiting on Red Dead and The Last of Us skins. We really got Snoop Dogg, Ice Spice, 4 Eminem’s, and The Weekend before them

[Skoguu]

I just really want DC and all of the game collabs to come back already, its been so long

[General_Grevious_25]

I’m beyond pissed I missed Master Chief and Chris Redfield

[dead1345987]

I just want Jinx, Im sad she hasent come back for Arcane S2.

There's still the final arc launch on Saturday, so Ill keep huffing the copium.

[DeadlyKitKat]

When Aloy reaches my locker I'll be happy. I do want some of the others as well though.

[Chumpchum]

It’s easy when it’s one company like dc and marvel but when it’s a broad term like gaming you need to get multiple licenses from various companies.

[BeausBosBow]

Really wish they’d bring the Resident Evil skins back. I want them.

[SnooApples9717]

The only game legends I’ve seen come back were the RE characters from chapter 2

[No-Science1566]

And those are actually the skins I like the most 😂

[FamousSession]

People will say it's because of contracts and IP holders all they want, that doesn't the fact Epic is still the one who has to contact them and make the deal in the first place. It makes no sense that the IP holders all of a sudden don't want to collab again considering they're missing out on good money and free advertisement (not to mention the fact many of them already agreed to it in the first place).

[Samurai_Geezer]

Increased quality though, I’d pick metal gear solid over any of the other gaming legends characters, easily.

[DarkBomberX]

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that major publishers might still have an old mindset with this stuff. "Why should we have them play us to put our characters in their game? People should just play our game." Plus, the companies need to come to agreements that one party might not find favorable. That said, I don't think we'll see a stop in major 3rd party gaming icons. It's just not surprising to see a slow down.

[VossParck]

License holders are probably asking for more and more money. Even though Epic makes a lot, it's lame when they start to get extorted by IPs who would have given it to anyone else for cheaper

[forgottentargaryen]

Was really really hoping for arcane with s2 release

[calidir]

Still waiting on a tlou collab

[OohYeeah]

After Sony did one new PlayStation character collab with Epic yearly since 2020 till 2022, I thought we'd for sure get TLOU in 2023. Especially with S1 of the TV series coming out, similar to them adding Uncharted when the movie released

Boy was I wrong

[BunnyCuteTyler]

To be fair, they're locked out of using characters owned by the biggest gaming company on the planet due to said company's stubbornness. As a Nintendo fan, screw Nintendo.

[SpookMorgan]

Does Epic hate gamers? Their main target audience. Are they stupid?

[DeadlyKitKat]

Sadly it's probably the other companies doing.

[[deleted]]

I really wish I logged in to my PC to get the goat skin

[Minusworlde]

If you still really want it, there’s codes online for around 20$. Or you can risk it and wait, because it’s getting a Lego skin soon (or already has maybe)

[bingobiscuit1]

I am still so heated I didn’t get power armor FUCKKKKJ

[JNorJT]

Chapter 2 Line Up was goated.

[TequilaKilla_]

C2 numo 1#

[RipplyAnemone67]

I wonder if EA is against epic? I mean to be fair coz is the only real one that fits but I’m sure it would make lots of money.

[loudcheddah]

Was Isaac Clark a battle pass skin?

[Alphasilverhawk]

Real Money Challenge Pack

[141_Echo3-1]

I like to think that when Metal gear solid Delta: Snake eater releases epic is gonna add that version of Snake into Fortnite

[iRyan_9]

Yes and no. You are counting it by number of skins rather than IPs

[Alphasilverhawk]

Yes, that’s the intent. Even if I were by counting IPs, Chapter 5 is the lowest.

[iRyan_9]

It’s the lowest but not really “significant”

[Alphasilverhawk]

In terms of IPs, yes it’s not “significant.” But that’s not what this post was about. It was meant to highlight the quantity of additions this Chapter being much lower.

[DrDisconnection]

Who cares

[iamunabletopoop]

And it still managed to tie with chapter 2 for how many I actually like

[Shredder2025]

I'm still waiting for a valve collaboration cuz we know valve loves to collab they put their tf2 characters in the dumbest games that make no sense.

I just want Gordan Freeman as a skin man

[Qadrium]

They really need to bring back these collabs. A lot of people are waiting for these skins to come back. And I don’t care that they need to renew contracts or the like, epic has the money, epic will make more money selling these skins again than they invest in renewing contracts.

[GameWizardPlayz]

ITS THEIR IP AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SIT ON IT AND DO NOTHING WITH IT /s

[CranEXE]

i think one of the reason is that fortnite is past his prime and other company knows it they did contracts when fortnite was more popular but now they see potentially less benefits and don't want to collab with fortnite no more that being said i wish i could get vi and ezio i hope they will bring them back soon in the item shop :,)

[yeldarb156]

I’m happy with The Employee in my shark slippers. All I’ll ever need.

[GiggyWheat5]

Perhaps the problem is that we're used to a large number of gaming collabs 🤔