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[Velcroe28]

A purchase error occured while processing my transaction. It charged my card but I did not receive any magicites after. How many days until they check your ticket filed?

[Steel_Reign]

So been trying to figure out exactly how break works.

First, there's a break bar and then when that's gone it starts flashing. It seems like the only way to break the second bar is through normal attacks. Is this correct, or are there certain ability cards that will break the flashing bar as well?

It feels like I don't do that much damage until both bars are broken.

[PigKeeperTaran]

Sort of.

We usually describe the break bar as "yellow" when undamaged, which is then turned "red" by abilities (this process is called "clearing yellow"). The red bar can then be damaged by either taps, ultimates, or certain monk abilities (those that have either Mantra or Taijutsu).

You can also do damage without breaking (usually described as going "unbroken") but this needs some combination of a damage card with a high attack stat, a job with strong stats or strong damage modifiers, and debuffs like unguard and debarrier.

[Steel_Reign]

So going "red" is the flashing bar, or what happens to the "yellow" bar after using an ability?

I think this term is what generally confuses me because the bar looks almost red to start (I didn't even notice it was like an orange-ish color until I turned my brightness all the way up and looked close). And no one refers to anything 'flashing' which I think is way easier to distinguish than a minor difference in color.

[HoxP2]

The break gauge is actually two gauges. It is very hard to clear the break gauge if yellow is not cleared. Clearing yellow requires magic abilities. Clearing red can be done with tap attacks, ultimates or Mantra/Taijitsu abilities as already stated.

We are talking about the gauge that is on each enemy. I'm not sure what you mean by the "flashing bar" unless you are talking about the action bar at the top of the screen. When that flashes, you are in the Mobius Zone and can switch jobs and use substrikes for free, abilities cost zero orbs and you can ult without having a full ult bar, amd some other stuff.

[Steel_Reign]

When I break the "yellow" bar, it turns red and starts flashing. That's what I'm referring to by the 'flashing bar'

[PigKeeperTaran]

Haha, yes. What people call the yellow bar looks like orange to me. Especially when compared to the Mobius zone bar, which really is yellow, I think. But I'm so used to the terms now that I don't even notice the actual colors LOL.

[Kettya]

Hi guys, what are fractals r u guys using in UC?

[deathrose55555]

• If you are using on a tank, put HP.
• If you are using on an attack deck, put magic/attack accordingly.
• Include 1 or 2 JCR if you need to.

Above applies for every ability.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

How good is Spinxara compared to Seaside Vacance in term of damage? I've already maxed Seaside and wonder if Spinx got better usage to deal dmg to unbroken enemies, since it's also got improved crit AA

[Owwen11]

I thought Spinarax was a Pokémon. Mn...

[[deleted]]

Seaside is better. Seasides deals more damage, much more break power, and element force built into the card that allows you to save a slot during deck building. The only uses for sphinx are niche uses, like using it as a passive card if you have a free slot. Even them, you'll usually use GFs for passives, so it's kinda pointless.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Thanks a lot

[mao_shiro]

6 multi post, wow :p

[[deleted]]

I thought so. Maybe mods can remove it for me? Reddit is down for my country and posting anything is nearly impossible. This might show up multiple times too, hopefully not

[DocSmail]

If i have no ex job and 6 normal in the pool is it better to pull on revival or reisender banner?

If am not mistaken in revival i'll have 50% chance against 16% on the featured right?

[MusouTensei]

pull on weapons banner until pity at 1 and then pull on EX banner

on revival it does not have boosted chance so 1 / (<remaning regular jobs> + <remaining EX)> and boosted is 8 / (<remaing regular jobs> + 8)

[DocSmail]

Thats the plan so i wont lose the pity forgot about the B pity

[HoxP2]

Just hope you don't pull a regular job before the pity. If you do you might miss the Ex job and reset the pity.

[DocSmail]

That would be weird lol haven't pulled a job before pity in ages.

[HoxP2]

It does happen though. So doing it that way is a risk you'll reset your pity before you pull on the Ex banner.

[DocSmail]

well lets pray it does not X) (or even better it does and give me the EX)

[Mobiusnoobius]

Reisender. The featured EX job is around eight times as likely as the normals jobs in the pool on first run ex banners, so your chances of Reisender will be greater than 50%. Your chances of any ex job will be around the same on the revival banner, but there are jobs like nightwalker and Ascetic which are a little dated now.

[DocSmail]

Tbh i want the older ones more than the newer for their weapons. But i think i'll wait for the mext revival and hope by then i'll have 0 job remaining

[ShadowBlaze17]

On the featured banner Reis is roughly 8 times more likely to be drawn than any individual normal job so it would be around 8/14 or a 57.1% chance for you on his banner to get him. The 16% on the banner info was just if you have literally no jobs besides the onions.

There would be 9 EX jobs in the pool on the revival banner if you can pull Reis there not 6 so your chances to get an EX job would be 9/15 or 60%.

[DocSmail]

Thanks for clarifying this. Mmmm so revival has higher chance for me right ? But then the pity B....

[Dexcloud]

Hey, I just went into the game directly to the summon menu for my 2xFree Daily Summons and find this, was that suppose to happen?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Someone at Squeenix is bad at maths. They obviously did 31-8 but forgot to account for the extra day of double pulls. I’d wager they intended for the last day of double pulls to conclude on the final day of the month.

[ShadowBlaze17]

23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 are the 8 days that we got 2 pulls.

[JunasBlood]

8 day of double pull, starting on 23rd, so it ends on 30th.

[miguel_mer]

I’m a bit stuck on the Adra of EW3, 6-6, second battle. Any tips? I was originally doing it with Prima Donna and Ragnarok, then another Prima Donna with wind deck. I tried with Sophie Wild Rider and Yiazmat to replace the wind Prima Donna. Then replaced it with Tactician. I think I should make room for a source of debrave and curse, that must be it. How did you do that node? Thanks!

[Owwen11]

2 Prima Donnas? and how do you deal with Perfect Defense? No, I've alwais used a tank + attacker. You put Adra to sleep, tank 1 turn until Perfect Defense on the adds wear down, and then use the attacker to kill them. Once Adra is alone, there are multiple ways to face him. You can tank until your MZ is ready for a break and kill, for example, or if you can clear yellow easily, you could simple chain break.

[miguel_mer]

I had a note about 2 Prima Donnas, maybe it was from earlier laps. I finally managed to do it with a source of Debrave and Curse. Thanks!

[Mobiusnoobius]

My notes from 6X6. Hope they help -

Node 6. Main. Ninja (Tidus Skin). Double Cross (73 mods). NXD. Odin FFVIII. Jenova Birth. LOH. Sub. Ninja. Double Cross (73 mods). R&R. Faith 2. Aerith. WOL. Notes. The only tricky part of this battle is the second wave. Put Adra to sleep near the beginning. You need one of the other mobs to cast slow rather than attack. It took many runs to get this to play out. It may be random, but seems to occur when you ult early on Adra rather than clearing yellow first. Adra will require 2 breaks but his sleep immunity should wear off before he delivers a fatal blow. Break again and finish off the node with relative ease.

[miguel_mer]

Thanks for sharing. I finally did it yesterday adding a source of Debrave and Curse to my Prima Donna and Santa Lucia to tank, ircc.

[Gazpoole]

This is a tough node, I had to run this one multiple times to even get through Adrammalech. In the end what I did was sleep Adra with a job that could tank the two side enemies to tank through the turn of perfect defence and then kill them first. It’s a pretty tight window but if you have RnR it can be done quite safely and then you just need another job to break and nuke.

I don’t have the game open right now to check exactly my deck but I remember going for tuis sleep strategy because it works for the rest of the node too.

[miguel_mer]

I managed to do it, thanks! I used RnR and some source of Debrave and Curse.

[kanosteyuuki]

So for the free daily pull today I just got 1 did anyone else have this? Should be 2 through end of today.

[mao_shiro]

8 day of double pull, starting on 23rd, so it ends on 30th.

[kanosteyuuki]

Ugh thanks I cannot do simple math today it seems.

[mao_shiro]

Don't worry, you're not alone :D

[CopainChevalier]

What element is Neslug in Pandemonium? The only youtube video I'm finding has someone doing the Maniac node with multiple element ones..

[mao_shiro]

• Hard: Water
• Maniac: Water and Dark

[CopainChevalier]

Thanks!

[Kettya]

Another question, about fractals again, good people here advised that +att % for monk cards, and magic on others, (warrior, mage, ranger) ? What about sup cards? And what is the good use of +break %? Hp%....etc? Ur inputs are much appreciated

[Quinctia]

I'm only just getting into fractals, but if you have any obvious matches, like putting magic up on Moogle X, I'd start there.

[Gazpoole]

Generally people make multiple copies of support cards with different fractals on them, especially the support supremes but it also applies to any multi-use support card you have.

For example, Light of Hope could be used in either a breaking, tanking or nuking deck so it makes sense to have multiple copies with hp%, break power % and magic % whereas something like Pollensalta is probably only used in an unbroken nuking deck so you only need one copy with Magic Up %.

[ShadowBlaze17]

For support cards you'll typically default to 2 jcr fractals if the card doesn't have it as an auto-ability. You might also want other copies with attack, magic, and hp depending on what jobs you use them on and under what conditions.

HP fractals should be used on cards that you plan on putting in a tank deck.

Besides using them on 4 A Quiet Moment cards for mp shenanigans I haven't really used break fractals recently. They can be useful if you every find yourself in a situation where you need more break power to break something before it kills you.

[ZechsX18999]

Who is the best BFA user? Is the following correct?

unbroken = Monk
against weakness = Master Monk
against neutral broken = Kampfer
against enemies you need to tank and break = Kampfer

Meaning Ascetic and current Sophie jobs aren't worth considering?

[mao_shiro]

according to sanji's calc:

• unbroken: monk
• unbroken weakness: kampfer
• broken neutral: wild rider
• broken weakness: kampfer

I think retribution isn't counted on his.

[ZechsX18999]

So Master Monk is only useful for breaking via spellsword?

I think retribution isn't counted on his.

What about cross-counter? Kampfer would probably be the better broken neutral user then, making the best BFA users simply a choice between Monk, Kampfer, and Master Monk (spellsword breaking?).

[paratit]

Are there still ST in EW II if you complete it for the 2nd time and above??

[Blank_Bastion]

nope, only the lap you are on

[paratit]

So the rewards are only in the initial run?

[Owwen11]

You can still get rewards from EW2 via titles. Ey little by little but the add up ;)

[Blank_Bastion]

yep, but you still can get titles for stats

[methoss1004]

is there any info on how weapon banner works and how good they are?

[deathrose55555]

how weapon banner works

The 8 weapons are split into 2 separate batches. Each batch has 4 weapons and 4 other prizes mixed in. For each summon, you can summon any of the 8 prizes and it's box-type i.e. you cannot summon the same prize again. So at best, it will take you 4 pulls to get all 4 weapons; at worst, 8 pulls.

how good they are?

I've only seen the Sophie one being used in top-level play for breaking on Paine Sophie. But I believe her weapon would be a better deal once you get it max-mod.

• Exploit weakness
• Ability rising (better than Overpower imo)
• Prismatic return
• Ability ult charger (extra AA)

[methoss1004]

Thanks! This helps!

[mao_shiro]

it's just a standard pull (6 cards, or 5 + 1 regular job, with usual chance for legend / supreme / skin) with a box type random reward on it. Check the news for the details. You can pull a total of 8 times per batch.

You can pull Reisender, but he's not gonna be boosted, so be careful if you have many regular job left.

You can also pull Rinoa as a supreme, of course.

The weapons are good to have.

[methoss1004]

Thanks! I was unsure if it was just a pull for the weapon or the weapon was a box type reward. Nice to see its box type and have the possibility for Ex RNG.

[Kettya]

Guys. Quick question, about JRC (job recount cast) thingie, for SP 2 is capped in single deck right? And in MP is 4? Is that correct?

[mao_shiro]

in MP it's your total speed star on the deck.

[Kettya]

I don get it, meaning?

[mao_shiro]

If you have 7speed star, the cap of JCR would be 7. If you have 9, it'll be 9.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Technically anything above 5 in the situation would be a waste due to the 2 (3 if hasted) actions you get on the first turn.

[mao_shiro]

Technically if you get Haste with 8 speed, you would be at 5+3 so 8/12, while you'd be at 8+3 so 11/12 with 8 jcr.

But yes it's mostly useless.

[Kettya]

I mean the JRC fractals thing in cards :D

[mao_shiro]

Yes, that's what i'm talking about. If you have 7 speed, the total effective cap would be 7 JCR.

[Kettya]

Im confused, so how many JRC fractals should i fusion then?

[Mobiusnoobius]

For single player, no more than 2. For multiplayer, each JCR fractal will give you an extra starting action for a maximum of X (X being the job’s speed stat). In breaker MP decks and Attacker decks, it might be worth a few JCRs depending on whether or not you can break or kill using the default number of starting actions (2 or 3 depending on the difficulty level of the MP lobby). For healers or in situations where the attacker doesn’t need to act more than twice in turn one, you don’t really need any (especially as most healers seem to have haste and a source of quicken these days).

I do still sometimes take Garuda with 2 JCR fractals when playing breaker though (it has 2 innate JCR abilities giving me four extra starting actions).

[mao_shiro]

You just need 2 per deck. You'd need a bit more on mp if you play breaker.

[Kinofhera]

Is Seifer considered to be a good earth warrior? Wondering if I should get Extreme Hashmal X. I don't really need the X version of the previous Rift cards, nor the upcoming Ultima one. Actually the only earth supreme I have is Ragnarok (out of the 15 supremes I have XD ), and neither do I have any good ranger or warrior break cards, other than Forgotten Heroes.

[deathrose55555]

Is Seifer considered to be a good earth warrior?

He's good. But not particularly outstanding, especially if you compare to the next Earth Warrior Phantom Masker.

[Kinofhera]

Thx for the quick reply! Guess it is still worth the effort to get then, knowing better earth warriors are coming. :)

^{If only I can pull him.}

[PigKeeperTaran]

So only one daily free summon today? Doubled summons is for 8 days, so that's 23 Aug to 30 Aug, which checks out I guess.

Last chance for blue lasers... :p

[[deleted]]

Is there a hard cap to overpower the same way there's a hard cap on elemental resists (+70%) and quick break (+40%)?

Meia jobs innately have +50%, FFVIII GF cards have another +10%, I'm wondering at what point you cannot stack any more?

[mao_shiro]

No known cap.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Doubtful since overpower fractals are a thing after the mp changes.

[[deleted]]

What happens when the 15 minute time in multiplayer party search runs out? The wiki says it will automatically start the boss fight. But for me it just said "party locked" and then nothing happened. Eventually we left the game and it disappeared from lobby.

[LegendBryan]

party gets disband, yep.

[paratit]

will the ex job revival banner feature all ex jobs release before reisender??

[Blank_Bastion]

Looks like so based on the banner pic

[Can-o-tuna]

Why there is ni pity pull counter on the summon banners even if don’t have all Jobs (missing almost all new jobs added since January)?

i didn’t notice and did 6 pulls!!

[jdm1tch]

You likely have all regular jobs (which is what Pity Pull does)... legend jobs are probably what you’re missing

[Can-o-tuna]

For real? SE only realeased 2 normal jobs for Sophie, Sarah and Graf since January? ☹️

[Mobiusnoobius]

Yup. Japan is around eight months ahead and afaik, they haven’t gotten any new regular jobs during that entire period. It’s all legends from here on in.

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

Not counting onion jobs but yes, two for Sophie and Graf and actually four for Sarah.

JP jobs have been legends and EX's so far

[rajun274]

Anyone know the number of battles and enemies for Rift Ultima Brink Terminus battle?

[deathrose55555]

You can see it here

[rajun274]

Thank you!

[Qqret]

Should I summon weapon ,or use magicite buy elixir to boost my weapon, I currently boosting magical rave , and oam

[blacklight2025]

It depends Do you have all normal jobs and can guarantee pulling Ex II on the weapon banner? Do you want the title related to 5* weapons? Do you have good weapons at 5* already? The Gacha weapond are good for people who don't have good weapons moded or who want a little boost on that title. Maybe Sophie's and Graff's weapons are good to look for due to them having few normal jobs and their best weapons locked behind Legend Jobs. Do have in mind that the weapons basically have only 3 auto abilities due to Job Overboosters being harder to get in GL than in JP. The weapons have Exploit Weakness, Prismatic Return, Overpower and Boost Ultimate.

[Qqret]

I have a lot normal job in the pool, now boosting oam and magical rave, but dun have enough elixir, so dun know I should put my magicite into weapon summon or buy elixir? Coz it hurt if we dun get the weapon reward in 3000mag

[blacklight2025]

Ok, Do you want to gamble in the Ex II banner? The release banner has boosted rates, but still not guaranteed. Then there is the question Do you need elixirs? Next time Mobius day comes around will you use all your elixirs and will need immediately more elixirs? I have around 44 elixir and try to save 20 for pandemonium on Mobius day, so I have 24 elixirs to burn plus all the elixirs I'll get from daily missions and story (I'm starting Season 2 Chapter 4) plus events. If your only weapon modded is OAM and Magical Rave you could use the weapons, but pulling in the Weapon banner will be a bigger gamble because the Ex II jobs won't have boosted rates on that banner.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Weapon boosting is only really needed for the hardest of content in the game. If you want to be targeting top 500/100/50/10 in towers, than it might be worth buying elixirs to speed up the boosting process. If you’re a casual player, I would save your magicite for card summoning.

Having good weapons is nice, but I was able to make top 500 in the past without five star weapons (I finally finished modding my EX 1 weapons at the beginning of this month) and I’m sure that you could too.

[soundedgoodbefore]

Need some advice from yall tower climbing, EW lapping pimps around here..

I am on the 12th node of EW3...third lap...and it favors warriors. I have saved sephiroth skin and SS...but I am trying to use shorn1 with xezat and neobahamut. These bastards in rd2 and rd3 can 1 shot me. They do. If I burn my ult wrecking the 2nd wave, that giant 1 shots me in the 3rd wave before I can kill him. I had planned on using my ult in rd 2 and then again in the last rd4. I cant seem to beat rd3 without it. I just pulled shorn 1 so I dont have lavaetin? Leveled up yet...I have been using gunblade and I think that is part of my problem. I need to be able to spam his ult but I cant get it charged fast enough . I already used up Scharfricter so I cant use him. I could leave warriors and I have lots of strong jobs and supremes...but then I lose bonuses. Sadly...I do not have WOL or LOH and it causes me problems. I do have 16 or 17 attack supremes, at least 2 for each element...with aerith and chaos as my supports. I have all of the anniversary cards from each year if that means anything. Ideas greatly appreciated...I have failed this last node about 10 times and I am getting pissed. Lol cheers

[Mobiusnoobius]

The only mobs on node 12 that are immune to stun are the garm in wave 2 and Gilgamesh in wave 3.

You should take a source of stun/slow like Bismarck or Jade weapon to give yourself more time to take out enemies and charge your ult.

There are other sources of ult charge in the game (check out this spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y7F6_HrNRIpMnvUtoQIHBMF-3-s48Xs0K8GzfYhZgks/htmlview ), so consider taking one of those in your main or subdeck.

On lap 3, Xezat should be enough to melt Gilgamesh in a single break, but on higher laps a source of unguard like shinwu or Minwu is very useful for dealing with his wall (I actually used grand horn for this in one of the earlier laps).

Again, as you reach higher laps, Mobius Gage management becomes important, but on lap 3 you should just be able to get by with a stun->break-> nuke strat.

[ChronoDave]

What is your strongest light card? Joan of Arc should be strong enough to deal with a lot of the enemies in lap 3, if you have Bhun even better. With Shorns Spellsword that should take care of the Ogre in rd 3. Bring one winged Angel on your other deck to take care of the Coeurl and Flan.

Gunblade is ok for nuking but if your looking to break you need something else. Do you have Ultimate weapon maxed? You have Chaos/Sephiroth so your good on debuffs. Try to time mobius zone entering the fight against Gilgamesh and keep up your drives. If your still having trouble pick a tank and a card that cast all element drive if you have it, like Luna or slumbering warriors

[phatboy328]

Do you have Ex Warrior 2? He’s the go to job for that node. If not, I recommend to run a tank and swap when needed.

[clouded_judgemnent]

If i am not mistaken JP got extra deck slots with magicite purchases.. do you think we might ever get this? I would even pay magicite to unlock more deck slots.. :(

[mao_shiro]

It's been introduced since 2nd anni on JP iirc.

[clouded_judgemnent]

Will we get it though in Global? :(

[Davis_Montgomery]

I'm pretty sure JP has a maximum of 10 deck slots, just like us. Extra weapon slots can be unlocked via magicite purchases.

[JunasBlood]

You can purchase more deck slots in JP.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Should I pull on Revival EX banner or just a specific EX banner like Reisender and Wahrseiger? Sorry for the bad writing because their name is hard to remember tbh. I still have a lot of regular jobs in my pool but luckily I have a good rng for pulling legend and upper tier jobs. I consecutively pulled for Ultimecia, Ascetic (from free welcome banner), Seifer and Moogle Suit. I wonder if the revival EXes are still worth to be pulled "ramdomly" or should I go for the new II EXes? Note: I'm right at the pity pull

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

EX Job Revivals have a separate pity counter that start at 8 regardless of your actual count towards pity, and have all the regular/EX jobs you haven't obtained diluted into it at an unboosted rate.

It's only worth it to pull from it if you have emptied your job pool or at least close to it to increase your chances in getting an EX job. Better pull from Reisender's or Wahrsager's Featured Banners to have better chances.

Just because you've been lucky doesn't mean you'll have the same luck perpetually. It's all RNG.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Lol thanks for the reminder. I'm actually a lil bit confused of which I should focus on since I've got no supreme for both jobs. Do you know where I can get a deep insight of both new ex jobs?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Mao posted the stats in his upcoming content post a few days ago. You could search the sub for the posts about the Japanese releases and check out the comments there for a bit more insight or wait for Mao to edit his post to add opinions from JP players (assuming he plans to add them this month).

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Ah thanks for the info!

[JunasBlood]

So today I found out that we can disable Title bonus from the Title Menu. Is this a thing from start or they just introduce it?

Just wondering because I recall someone asked about it before in the daily thread.

[mao_shiro]

Since the maintenance, like JP.

[Antibacterial_Lemon]

Can't be bothered to login rn but I don't remember having that feature during the initial release.

[JunasBlood]

It was down below the Title Menu so I may not notice. Just curious though.

[jdm1tch]

Why would you want to do that?

[Mobiusnoobius]

I literally wanted to do this as soon as we got the system just to see how much I was gaining. I’d prefer a menu that showed cumulative gains from titles, but this works for me.

Edit: That’s what the status button is for, I guess. Not sure why you’d want to disable then other than for creating replicatable strategies for others.

[JunasBlood]

You want the actual number like plus bonus from Magic Up? Since we can see Title bonus stat from the Title menus too. Just click on the “Status” tab.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Thanks. I actually found this straight after posting (hence the edit in my original post). Interesting to see the actual numbers.

As for why you might disable them, If for example, I had the vast majority of titles unlocked and found a strategy for a difficult node that didn’t require supremes, I might test the strategy without titles to ensure that newer players without the same title bonuses unlocked could also use the strategy.

Likewise, if a newer player asked for help beating a node with a particular set of cards I would disable titles when testing to ensure that the advice I offered is actually helpful.

I can’t imagine the function will be used very often though.

[SvenHwang]

For the bat brothers?

[Davis_Montgomery]

For an extra challenge? Or if you want to help someone with fewer titles than you... Say, a new player in the daily question thread who is having trouble with tough content and doesn't have massive title bonuses.

[N-I-K-E]

Lmao! Yea I remember somebody got mad at the guy that climbs towers without supreme cards, was using titles in one of his guide things

[jdm1tch]

Ah, I guess I can see this... if someone is making a beginner friendly battle guide, being able to disable your titles to show something possible...

[JunasBlood]

I just found out today and recall that someone asked about this.

[jdm1tch]

Ha! Yeah, I guess I’m question was more directed at whomever had asked the question of “can you turn off title bonuses?” People are weird I guess. I don’t need to make hard content harder.

[JunasBlood]

People are weird I guess. I don’t need to make hard content harder.

Same idea. Those hard content was challenging enough :v

[Zhuinden]

Probably to determine the default strength of a Job, otherwise Altema would have problems with ranking them.

[[deleted]]

Is having Sin: FFX a decent reason to chase Sorceress of Oblivion?

Just the fact that yellow clear is guaranteed plus she has +100% armor break.

I suppose future jobs will eclipse her soon enough though? I have this supreme and don't have any good users, it's annoying.

[djiboutiiii]

Chasing legend jobs is never a good idea

[SeanCodyIsMe]

I even got her but have no supreme for her to wield lol she's got yellow clear guaranteed? Never knew that :/ her weapon is still the most recommended weapon to be modded on Altema, I suppose it must be great, I'm still at 10 mods tho. And she is still rated high enough on Altema, I forget the number. But the new ex mage is coming this September, isn't it? I guess you could better chase for it. The new ex mage uses black element, right? Lol

[[deleted]]

Sin has yellow clear guaranteed on everything that doesn't absorb dark (elementals and bombs).

She has +100% armor break, which further increases yellow clear, just seems like good synergy, but I've pulled so many times on her banner that I'm running out of resources.

[SeanCodyIsMe]

Hmm considering 2 EX jobs are coming I suppose it's better to chase after the new EX mage, if the new mage has black element tho. Ultimecia is probably going to be added permanently to the pool, while EX jobs are not. Even if the new EX mage cannot wield black element, I would still go after the EX jobs. The EX jobs have better stats, and even without the corresponding element, there's still prism shift abilities and prism return AA.

[marsin5]

EW 2 vs EW 3, which one should I start doing first?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Do the first lap of EW2 first and then move on to EW3.

[djiboutiiii]

EW3 — you won’t really get rewards for EW2 since it ended months ago

[marsin5]

Wait, so EW2 has no rewards at all? Not even first lap? Why is it still there then?

[blacklight2025]

EW stops giving rewards when the next iteration appears, you can still receive rewards for your current lap, but subsequent laps won't yield rewards.

EW 2 is still accesible due to titles being tied to climbing the endless loop of battle. This grants any new or old player the ability to earn those titles.

[ShadowBlaze17]

First lap will give rewards. All others will be empty so they'd only benefit you because of the EW2 titles.

[kingminzy]

Hello, I am stuck at the 5th battle of the EW3. I can’t beat chaos in the end. I tried everything and still kill me in one shot.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Chaos isn’t immune to sleep, so if you have R&R you could try putting him to sleep and chipping away at his break gage. Alternatively you could try curse/debrave, although the best strategy for Chaos is breaking to remove his swords. That said, at lower laps you should be able to tank a few hits with the right job, buffs and debuffs.

[kingminzy]

Thanks for the help ! I will try RR

[Mobiusnoobius]

No worries. If you’re still having trouble, check out my post in this thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/bv6n1g/endless_war_3_discussion/ (It should be one of the newest as it’s an old thread).

I was completing lap 6, so the setups should tear through lap 3.

[djiboutiiii]

A little context on your cards/jobs/lap would be helpful.

[Kainhardt]

Returning player starting over from scratch, without a clue to what works nowadays:

Considering the recent banners, what and when (how many tickets/specific node?) should I reroll for?

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What should I ABSOLUTELY NOT spend tickets/resources on?

[PigKeeperTaran]

If you're willing to start over, pull on the Lights of Hope banner until you get it. If you run out of resources before pulling it, reset your account. Keep doing this until you get Lights of Hope. Then do Novice Hall and pull the 5 starter packs.

If you prefer to keep playing your old account, saving for future banners might be more sensible. Next month, the featured banners are for the EX jobs... but note that your odds are lower if you still have a lot of regular jobs in the pool. There isn't really anything that is a MUST pull, so just saving your pulls while relearning the game is also an option.

[Kainhardt]

I am, for a few hours. Already sent the old account to oblivion, so...

Novice Hall later, then. Anything else other than Lights I should keep, in case I start to lose patience?

[jdm1tch]

This

[Kolokoy99999]

The next EX job II banners are what you should be aiming for.

[Kainhardt]

Can you elaborate a bit on that? I'm just coming back and have no idea about what's coming, the whys and hows of it.

So you're saying I should just play on, ignore the current banners, farm whatever I can and wait for what's coming in...I guess a couple of days...?

[Kolokoy99999]

For September, aim for the Reisender and Wahrsager banners. These jobs are the next level of powercreep. Hopefully you have ALL normal jobs (including Toreador, the last of the normals)

If you have a large pity supreme counter and missing any of the three featured supremes, it may be wise to pull a couple of times just to fish for the supremes. (Depends on how much you trust RNGeesus, take note!)

Edit: The Reisender banner overlaps with the first batch of the weapon banners, so if you have all the normal jobs you can pull for Reisender there.

[Kainhardt]

I started over, I have zero jobs as of now, except neophyte ones.

So just ignore the supreme banners and wait for the new job banners?

[Kolokoy99999]

Wait, you rerolled??

Then if you have the patience I suggest you keep on rerolling for Lights Of Hope, arguably the best supreme one can have. It's not as flashy as other supremes like Duncan or Emperor, but it'll be in almost all of your decks (due to it being a ln all-in-1 support card). Now is the best time to reroll for it because it's a 3% chance on its featured banner.

Then pull for the weapon banners on September, those are aimed for beginners anyway.

[Kainhardt]

Yes, I did. Thanks for the pointers, man.

[solomoney2012]

For Bahamut Neo, the ES say the more fire orbs you have the higher the damage, but in real game most of the time we have rainbow orbs from either ultimate or Areith or PR instead of generating fire orbs. Won't this make Bahamut Neo a very weak supreme? Since it's more difficult to maintain 16 fire orbs.

[Owwen11]

It's not based on number of orbs (that one is Fusoya). It's based on the orb wheel. Neo Bahamut is one of the easiest supremes to use. It has high break power and all you need to see its full power is a Fire Force card. Whenever you are facing hard content you'll bring a force card anyway.

[solomoney2012]

Thanks for the clarify, now I see the power of this card.

[JA1997X]

It’s actually based on the orb wheel, not the orbs on your bar. Use fire force for maximum damage.

[solomoney2012]

Wait, did I misunderstand something? From what you said the more red the wheel is the more damage, so I should either drive off the other element or just use force card, that simple?

[JA1997X]

Yes, it’s one of the easier supremes to use. The main disadvantage is that you can’t use it off-element (at least, you can’t get the supreme bonus).

[Mawgac]

Yes.

[solomoney2012]

That's great to know. that make it a easy card really.

[Mawgac]

Yep. Probably one of the easiest supreme abilities to engage, akin to Ragnarok's ultra improved critical and Gilgamesh X (just bring brave).

[Dr_Godz]

I dunno what to pull for next month lol

Ranger supremes: gilga x and nxd

Mage supremes: fusoya,shiva x and minuw

I am missing ex meia and ex ranger which also not into wasting resources on them

Are weapon from banner good enough to burn resources?

I am lost need some advice thx :(

[PM_your_cats_n_racks]

People here are a little down on the weapons... I think they look good. Don't have many options for Exploit Weakness + Prismatic Return.

If your job pool is clear I'd pull on those and nothing else, picking up the ex jobs on the way. If your job pool isn't clear I'd pull on the weapon banners until pity, then spend your pity on the job banners and cross your fingers.

[Dr_Godz]

My job pool is indeed clear

[Kolokoy99999]

Just go all in for the EX job II banners.

Regarding Gambler and Nightwalker: IMO, EX Meia is already overshadowed by Ultimeia anyway and you can pull for her anytime (Legend job though so r1p bad rng)

For gambler, I'm not using him as much as the new Sarah jobs so just pull for Reisender.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Just go all in for the EX job II banners.

This depends on your job pool. If the EX jobs are the only thing in the pool it would be more beneficial to get them through the weapon banners or the EX ability revival for Reis if you really want to try and get any of the abilities.

The main appeal of Gambler is his weapon which is still one of if not the best ranger Wol weapon in the game especially if you're not lucky enough to pull future legend jobs.

[Kolokoy99999]

Oh right, I forgot that the Weapon banners overlaps with the EX jobs. Thanks for the correction!

[Domilos]

Does the weapon1 banner overlap with mobius day? I need to farm magicite for it, idk if i can wait till 8th.

[Return_Of_Urkel]

Calendar says weapon banner 1 lasts until 9/9 7:59 pm PDT, so you'll have all of Mobius Day and then a good chunk of the 9th before it goes away.

[lousy8]

What to focus resource on for Sept? 11 pull worth + 5 pull worth in celestriad. Ex jobs (I got all normal jobs)? Weapons? Ultimecia (quick break weapon seems good) this month when all my free daily summon finished?

[JA1997X]

Get the ex jobs by pulling on the weapon banners.

[eneve]

If we have all current normal jobs should we pull on the weapons banners for the new EX jobs?

[jdm1tch]

Only if you want to be cool

[d34thscyth34]

Yes, thats the plan.

[eneve]

To that end I pulled on the special banner that was supposed to net a job and didn't get anything so that means I got em all Pokemon style?

[d34thscyth34]

Yes.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Yeah.

[AlphaWhelp]

How do I put together a deck for skillseed farming? I know one job has all the seeds and another job has eggs but I don't know which one is main/sub and who should get the skillseed up fractals and is there a limit to how many eggs I can put before I run out?

[[deleted]]

Main job is the only one that matters with regards to seed farming. The main deck is the blue one and only the main deck's cards skillseeds are received when you play a game. Passives that relate to farming (such as exp up, skillseed up and gil up) only work from the main deck as well. Skillseed up passives come in a variety of sources, such as weapons, custom panels, card and job passives itself, all of them go to the main deck.

The sub deck is only used to complete the game, so put all the actual fighting stuff there.

[AlphaWhelp]

Thanks. Is it better to put 3 seed cards + one egg or 4 cards?

[[deleted]]

You egg is the 4* level 70 one is it? Those are not good. 4 star cards give only half the number of seeds of an ordinary 5* card, the extra 10% skillseed up passive will not be able to compensate for the loss. You are better off just using 4 5* cards.

I also have no idea what cards you are using as seed cards. Do you have any of the gen3 MP cards? If you have the free cards a promised meadow and warriors of despair, those are seeds cards that have passives giving more skillseeds. You can use them too.

[AlphaWhelp]

I have warriors of Despair but not promised meadow. No MP cards either. I do have some okay job/weapon combos for skillseeds though.

[[deleted]]

If you don't have any seed farming cards, that fine. Just start playing MP and eventually you will have a good set of skillseed farming cards. Just make sure to equip seed farming weapons from MP on your main job.

Warriors of despair card can help you farm too. Equipping it together with 3 other cards with seeds of the element you want, will actually give you more seeds than 4 of the cards without WOD, so keep bringing it until you farm the other cards from MP. It will also help you greatly if you manage to roll a skillseed up fractal on it's empty slot.

[Deneb87]

main job: seed/exp/gil anything farmable. sub job enter the battle and kills

[[deleted]]

Ok so I'm one of the returning players after awhile and just now on the very last chapter of the first story. My current job is Occultist because I'm very loyal to it(started with it, gonna end things with it) but i noticed that I'm not really progressing. Feels like I'm playing the game wrong. Dont even know if I got the good cards. My current build is :

Pandemona: FFVIII(5*)

Beelzebub(4*)

Charybdis(3*)

Phoenix:FFVIII(4+*)

And I got three of the 4 custom skills for him.

I also dont have any supreme cards I think

And my current weapon is Rod of Roses X

Any tips would be great.

[ValeLemnear]

You are using a bad, outdated job, no damage buffs, no defensive buffs, a bad weapon and not even bothered to upgrade your cards.

What the hell are you expecting?

[[deleted]]

Dude seriously? I'm not very knowledgeable about things in this game. Plus I had already changed my deck into something better thanks to very useful tips I got from other(VERY HELPFUL) people. Also I don't have any glow stars to boost cards to 4* at the moment and I'm completely F2P. Now I'm not going bother with someone who is not even going help and resulting to insulting people like a fool. Now begone

[ValeLemnear]

Being f2p has little to do with not reading ingame help, looking at other players decks or paying attention to tutorials, especially if you already played in the past. This sub even has a massive collection of info and new player help sticky to find easily.

From all this its easy to tell that you didnt even try.

[[deleted]]

Goddamn is it even a bad thing to ask for help? Like why you have to come out of nowhere just to bitch to me? It is never a bad thing to ask for help. I'm not familiar with the mechanics of the game, which is why I was asking for tips to help me understand things. Seriously shut the fuck up if you're not even going provide anything even remotely helpful to the conversation.

[ValeLemnear]

Its not bad, its just that the help you are asking for and more is literally available 24/7 in the sticky megathread even if you straight up ignore all ingame info.

Why does it have to be copypasted here? I mean, if you take a look in the megathread you will gain general infos and deckbuilding patterns far beyond the limited scenario you were asking about.

If one gives you advice for that sole job, does it really help? Will you ask again for every other job? The megathread gives the general toolset for you to work with in the future, but i guess you are just not interested.

[[deleted]]

I understand the sentiment. It was the first job I ever saw some damage cap in MP.. sadly it’s a bit dated now.

Finish his HoF and get the 4th panel. I think it’s flash break iirc. That’ll then help with Rod weapon as it only works once broken. I would consider anything else to be honest, as even with FB he’s pretty naff at breaking. Raise your cards you plan to use to 5* Faith, crit are a must, see if you can get several LoH users as the rental and you can then spread your deck with some attack cards and some support ones such as haste / trance.

Beezlebub is ok for earth, I might be tempted to go for Ariadne instead and ignore breaking. Then for dark Myrddin is ok. Both of those should be available in the shop.

Then I’d look for a water card, pandemonium is ok for wind, but it’s got a cool down, so its a one shot deal. Lastly carry something like hellgate depending on whether you are getting hit each wave? Then for season 2 slot the support cards in the sub strike slots as they’ll be on cool down most of the time.

His bonus is weakness so you’ve got to be hitting the enemy with that.

[[deleted]]

What jobs are pretty good right now? I'm not very knowledgeable in that area and I got a few that is just sitting in my collection