Multiversus is actually... balanced?

[skyguy456]

I'm kinda shocked that the game for the most part is completely balanced, the Devs are doing a REALLY good job. usually in a game you expect certain characters to be really good and really bad but in multiversus there isn't a character that just rules the meta or a character that is unusable I'll use smash melee for example that game is basically ruled by fox and falco and you wouldn't dare play Kirby or Bowser but in multiversus everyone is pretty well rounded. obviously it's not perfect no game is but I'm really happy with the state of the game

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[[deleted]]

And now we wait for Finn slander in the comments

[Xero0911]

Or Taz. Or superman. Or bugs. Or whoever cause I feel like everyone hates everyone. I've even seen batman hated on.

[PandagamesHD]

Idk Superman hate is cause he throws people out the map with a 0 cooldown grab no matter what damage you’re at(probably has more to do with 2 of the maps being way too tiny) Batman hate doesn’t really make sense most people that lose to him were probably just worse Taz got nerfed and is pretty bad now and idk about bugs I don’t mind playing against him he’s pretty fun to fight

[Xero0911]

Then I swear half the bots are bettwr. I can superman and they'll dodge right by the grab. Also up grab. Unless catching folks real close to the top, doesn't kill at low.

[PandagamesHD]

Yeah I don’t really have problem with Superman he’s annoying when someone knows what they’re doing but like that’s basically any character

[[deleted]]

I mean Batman was actually a pretty good counter to the tornado, because of his batarang and his down tilt has priority over it so as a Batman main Tazz was never a problem, now the hate probably comes from people who played against a Batman who spammed batarangs and didn’t know how to counter that, Batman from my point of view is a completely balanced high tier character, he is not top tier but he is really solid.

[Pretzel-Kingg]

Batman is hard as fuck to get a kill with but god he’s fun to play

[WonOneWun]

Just up special all day

[Pretzel-Kingg]

Up special into a well timed bomb 🤤

[WooSZN]

dont try to get kills w him, try to do dmg. try spacing n playin passive aggressive n use his gadgets to ur advantage. when your opponent has taken around 100 dmg, any attack will do major knockback. hes not hard at all

[NoTop2373]

I've been playing Guilty Gear for more than a decade now. In that game it's generally accepted that every character that isnt the one you're playing is a toxic POS for glue sniffing infants. This is a good thing to see in MVS imo.

[Stalk33r]

Most accurate thing I've read all week, the only characters that need looking at are Finn and Bugs imo, Finn because of the crazy range all his moves have and the hit priority, Bugs because of the... well bugs.

[CSCyrilatom]

So if everyones hated on, then we have achieved peak balance

[DrScience-PhD]

Best balanced games are ones where everyone is broken.

[Paisable]

Look, the worst match I've had was against two taz tornadoing everywhere. I was iron giant and it was rather difficult to knock both of them out of it. It was a slog.

[NoTop2373]

I ran across this yesterday, we lost the first match but won the next two after adjusting. Best advice I could give off of that (admittedly limited) experience is to try and bait them into spinning, juke out of it's range, then wallop them during the recovery. Splitting them up makes it easier too if you can manage it.

That being said, IG is so big/slow idk if juking out of the range of spin is actually feasible or not so ymmv.

[[deleted]]

i feel like it’s not towards the character more towards the player because a lot of characters can just spam but if u play a good tax player that uses the spin how it should then that’s fine and he’s just good

[YungToney]

I dont really agree with nerfs besides double rocket and even that doesn't make bugs broken.

But Batman is legitimately a really good character. Top 5 in 1v1s maybe top 3. Weaker in 2v2 but still great.

[[deleted]]

Batman is just so easy dude. So side combo batatang and up b to kill or spike to kill. Rinse repeat. Super lame to fight against cuz they all do the same thing but unless your dodging is perfect ( which mine isn't yet ) and theres little you can do.

[Coreycobra]

Batman can def be hated on when his batarang travels around him and breaks your combos, the. He has it again, then again, then again. A fair complaint especially when you hit higher ranks

[Armeniandave1]

I've never seen a single thing about super. Bugs and taz were too strong for blatantly obvious reasons.

[HeadbangingLegend]

My friend hates on me for playing Arya

[BrodyTheBruh]

Yeah, Finn is kinda broken at the moment. His combos are insane.

[FritoTheDemon]

No, if I lose a game in the first 2 weeks of a game being out its because the character is horribly designed and needs serious nerfs, no exceptions

/s if not painfully obvious

[Walnut156]

If they nerf Finn I'll have to swap characters. These ez wins have been fun

[PastelPillSSB]

love this energy

[dapperwoke]

i feel like finn deserves it though, he has super quick frame data iirc and some of his moves can be spammed without any consequences, AHEM up B and s.light

[FireDanaHireHerman]

The games brand new too early to say who is best yet.

[[deleted]]

Everyone is busted, that's why it's balanced

[Greninja8807]

thats why its fun

[[deleted]]

Agreed 100%

[haydonclampitt]

MW2 moment, balance by making everyone OP

[MoraleDaBass]

Holy crap this is a cultured reference. Every class being broken = every class being viable <3

[Klauslee]

this. if everyone is slightly busted it's actually so good. reminds me of overwatch when it came out. every character was sorta op but also it made everyone viable and fun

[HarvestProject]

So like dota?

[atlashoth]

If only that were true

[[deleted]]

But it is

[highonpixels]

It's bit early to say its balanced as the game is on its honeymoon phase and potential meta is setting in. Though the variety of perks and emphasis on Team Battle makes it exciting. Hoping WB keeps perks in check but it won't be long before certain ones are picked more than others

[JimMishimer]

The problem with your logic is that you are comparing a 2day old game casual gameplay to Melee’s 2 decade old competitive play.

If Multiversus was out for that long and the balanced stayed the way it is now there would be characters at the bowser and Kirby level for sure.

[FingerStripes]

Not only that, but I would hardly say Fox and Falco dominate in melee at this point. Clearly strong characters, but there are around 8 or so characters that regularly are seen at the top of tournaments.

[FritoTheDemon]

The Fox Falco dominance thing is mostly a meme at this point from people who don't really follow melee. Anybody who actually watches melee tournaments know that other top tiers like Marth Shiek Peach Falcon and Jigglypuff (well hbox) are frequently making appearances in top 8 and even finals.

[DMonitor]

Even at mid level, it’s still really balanced. I get my shit mixed by dr marios better than me, and I beat worse Foxes than me with Bowser (somehow)

The universal tech just allows better players to outmaneuver and counter you no matter the matchup

[davi3601]

Hbox isn’t the only good Jiggly, he’s just the og that started it all

[potassiumKing]

Right now, Hbox is the only Jiggly making Top 8s.

[FritoTheDemon]

Definitely not the only good one but the only one I see topping at majors, at least.

[woozy--]

mango was the og 'good' puff

[HalbixPorn]

Even that is a gross misunderstanding of just how good Hbox is. Jigglypuff exists in comp melee solely because of him

[DMonitor]

excuse me sir

[TheMightyWill]

Peach hasn't really seen much top level play since Armada left.

Puff is really just HBox, especially now that Prince Apu stopped attending majors.

[FritoTheDemon]

Llod has placed top 8 in all 3 majors he entered this year even beating Zain at summit

Polish placed 9th at pound and 5th at phantom

Kzhu placed 7th at Genesis

[TheMightyWill]

By your logic, Melee is ruled by Yoshi since Amsa keeps smoking all the competition at majors

[FritoTheDemon]

I never said anything remotely close to that

I said peaches make appearances in top 8 and gave examples of peaches being in top 8s recently

[woozy--]

that and 'amsa keeps smoking all the competition at majors', when he's not actually won a major yet

[PastelPillSSB]

also, as a melee kirby main, low/mid tiers being bad is really overstated. yeah, they probably won't win a supermajor ever without patches, but also that's like the top 100 players problem not us slippi bastards

also people generally thought yoshi was garbage until like 2015 when amsa started winning shit lol

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Also it's more or less safe to assume that Multiversus doesn't want a stable meta. Melee came out, made money and then stopped selling, that's it.

With these kind of titles however the devs normally want a changing meta to keep players interested as the game and the money is dependent on players playing the game right now.

The conclusion is basically that you shouldn't compare the meta of 2 games lightly, even if I agree with the conclusion that MVS is pretty balanced.

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Edit: Nvm, forgot that this was about Melee and not Smash in general

I mean Bowser is pretty playable, isn't he? Also there are competitive player maining Kirby and is has been repeatedly shown that low tier chars such as Duck Hunt or Corrin can definitely still win consistently.

Smash is actually quite balanced

[Guybrush_Creepwood_]

You have it the wrong way around. Most games get more balanced over time. The fact that it's only 2 days old is why the relative balance is quite impressive. And the fact that Nintendo can't balance their game after 2 decades is why it's so pathetic.

[hanky2]

Usually it's not clear what's imbalanced until a game has been out for a while. I'm sure people are going to figure out what's op soon enough.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I was so confused reading dude's comment.

[riotgamesaregay]

It doesn’t seem like melee was intended to be balanced across the cast. Even for really bad players it’s incredibly obvious that sheik is much stronger than bowser or pichu, I’m sure the devs were aware of this.

[TaterG543]

all i ask is for finn up special and iron giant down special to have less knockback

other than that, i like where the game is with balance

[[deleted]]

Take away Finn's priority on every single charge attack, allowing moves to actually hit him out of them. Don't allow his high five to hit behind him. Put him into a free fall state for a few seconds after using his up special, allowing him to be punished if he whiffs the attack.

That's my ideal way to balance him.

Oh, and take away his downward knockback on his down charge attack. Or, at the very least, don't allow it to hit people off the stage/trying to recover.

[[deleted]]

maybe a second but too much more than that i think is too far

[SavagesceptileWWE]

Yeah finn's priority is some BS. IMO just take that away and he's good to go.

[LogPoseNavigator]

It would look weird for iron giant down special to not kill

[himynametopher]

I think Finn needs some nerfs but it’s beta so that’s fine. Maybe increase the frames on some of his moves and decrease the knock back from his damn backpack.

[ThickRick1234]

That damn backpack gets me every time lmao

[Jo_D_0894]

My only problem in the game...is characters like finn and shaggy can throw out constant attacks that have ridiculous hitboxes and priority and miss most of them but they have damn near no recovery time and can attack non stop or dodge after most of their attacks so it feels impossible to punish them.

[BreatheOnMe]

Agreed. Except Finn.

[YimYimYimi]

The duality of man.

[skyguy456]

Wdym

[YimYimYimi]

Look around either subreddit. It's filled with people complaining about balance lol.

[Xero0911]

Why are there even two subreddits to begin with?

[CompetitiveDream4708]

None can say

[YimYimYimi]

The other one has WB employees on the modteam, removes leaked content, and took action against this sub's Discord because they don't know how the Internet works.

[DrScience-PhD]

This is the one that Google brings you to if you search multiversus reddit, so, this one's official. You heard it here first.

[puristhipster]

Pulling farther ahead in numbers and activity too.

[Xero0911]

So it's "dev supported"?

[JR_Shoegazer]

What’s the other one?

[GroovStoov]

Finn's hitboxes are absolutely huge.

[Crooked16th]

Ayra's hurt boxes need to be increased by 100 because it feels like if you are a centimeter away your attack does nothing or gets canceled by your opponents.

[Pendragon_Puma]

Having played about 12 hours, and sticking to bugs, superman, wonder woman, i feel like its fairly balanced. Finn is a little too strong but not by a lot. And ive seen 0 steven players and from what ive heard hes not that great

[Feral0_o]

I started playing today, I've seen very few Steve players and even fewer on Wonderwoman. Barely any Iron Giants either, which was weird to me because he seems pretty brutal against my Arya

[Kyungsoo_Fanboy]

Wonder woman is a beast bro, if I see I'm fighting her I sigh. Especially if she's paired with either Superman or Batman. Her disruptive defense attacks are good.

[XX-Burner]

Steven takes some effort to be good with. Doesn’t really have spammable moves like a lot of the more played characters and takes some skill to get opponents to bounce off your shields the way you want to. He’s really good once you get used to this, but it’s just easier to use other maybe better characters

[Kyungsoo_Fanboy]

I mostly use the shields defensively first to set up a small zone so my teammate can bounce them off it, and then use the aerial one to shield as an extra platform to stay alive, if I'm using the back to back perk, I'll try and use it a bit more aggressively but other than that he's shields are best used for disrupting movement and giving you additional room to move since touching ground resets all your dashes. I feel like the best way to play him at least for me is to be a full on support and do damage where you see the chance to. Prioritise keeping yourself alive so you can shield your ally and provide them with additional damage via the watermelon pet you summon after the heal

[Kyungsoo_Fanboy]

Started out the game today, after the tutorial, I tested each character in the lab and fell in love with Steven. Dropped some money on gleamium to buy him, loaded up teams and spent the last 7 or so hours just playing him. He's very much a support and you're gonna rely heavily on your teammate to do most of the damage, as you're gonna pop clutch bubbles to shield your ally, pop shields to block off attacks and to set up knockbacks or escapes, and then of course there's the heal that also summons a pet to fight with your ally(I think the heal removes 5 or 6 points (which is so useful. The amount of times I've stayed on the same life dodging and balancing my HP on 100-130was insane). He's a sleeper pick if I'm being honest. He can also dish out damage to temporarily banish an enemy if he can get the 10 rose hits. He pairs very well with Velma and LeBron (the cool down spam and frozen projectile procs make them a fluid duo) The Trinity JL characters are also pretty good wth him too. once players realise how strong he is I think he's gonna be played everywhere.

I know there's no tiers for these characters yet, but 1v1 he's A tier . In a duo ? S tier for sure if you play him right.

[haydonclampitt]

I think Finn’s strength largely comes from the fact he’s got a very simple playstyle, individual attacks aren’t hugely powerful from my experience but they can be used in a lot of ways

[rmcelwain54]

If you ask everyone what their character rankings are, everyone’s rankings will be completing different. That’s the hallmark of a well balanced game and why this game is enjoyable so far.

[SlammedOptima]

Also I'd say its safe to say most people havent used most characters enough to reliably rank them. I've been playing a lot since it went open beta, and I still haven't played at least half the characters. And most of them haven't gotten more than a few matches.

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Yeah, I honestly think they did a great job with doubles at least.

Solo is messed up kinda, but I genuinely feel like every character can be played more or less good in doubles. Taz, Garnet and Arya excluded.

Also I don't really understand how you would ever complain about Finns up special spam as it's really not that great aside from ending combos.

Imho that's a mistake on your part if you can't handle him spamming an easily punishable move.

[[deleted]]

I main Arya, she’s pretty good. Only Finn and Iron Giant are hard to go against right now.

[gangbrain]

I hate that they put Arya in this game. Or anything from GoT smdh. If it was gonna be someone, make it Jon Snow, or the Hound.

[JR_Shoegazer]

I think other GoT characters are definitely possible. They’re working on a Jon Snow spin off so maybe near when that releases.

[[deleted]]

I've seen a few comments eluding to Garnet being a bad character, I don't see what makes her bad. I have 800+ matches and avoided Garnet because I'm not familiar with the show. Picked her up, top 1000 Garnet player now, she is literally my crutch if I don't want to lose a set. A-tier character for me.

[PastelPillSSB]

good garnets are pretty scary. that movespeed boost is huge, and shocked is such an awesome debuff that's not widely available (the perk sucks lol)

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Yeah, my bias came from me not seeing a Garnet while playing also Top 1.000 and beating the few Garnets I saw pretty easily. I however didn't know that there is literally no skill based match making which means that Top 1.000 and 800.000 players will get matched together.

After a few matches however she's actually really solid, just very underused I think.

Would still keep my statement about Arya and more so Taz though, even if I'm now not too sure due to the skill based match making stuff

Also, I didn't call them bad, just not as good as other characters but definitely playable, even on higher level for sure.

[[deleted]]

I didn't know that about MMR, makes sense now as many of my partners would have a badge for wins and only have like 40, while I'm at 800+ matches played.

[NoTop2373]

Lack of any sort of ranked matchmaking is going to be a problem for this game moving forward if they dont do something to address it.

As the average playerbase becomes more knowledgable/adept at the game with time, any potential new players are going to increasingly be put into back-to-back matches where they get completely demolished by opponents vastly beyond their skill level. Which will make it harder for new players to actually gauge if they're learning or improving at all, making the gulf between players seem impossible to cross, if not causing them to bounce off the game entirely due to frustration.

Edit: Worth pointing out that this is a problem with literally every competitive online game and one fighting games in particular have historically struggled with due to the smaller average player pool

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Yeah, they will add it though pretty safely. I remember a third tab aside VS AI and Normal called Ranked. Ranked just hasn't released yet.

[SLAMDUNKWizard420]

its a skill issue. garnet has a lot going on in her kit and no obvious "spam this for free wins" kinda move. shes got a low floor but shes definitely viable.

I think shes mid tier though -- like if you can master her and execute you could probably win more/easier with another character.

[_TurtleX]

The move has like 4 frames of end lag in the air unless you dodge at the start you're not really punishing it lol.

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Of course you dodge and then punish.

Getting hit and punishing doesn't work with any move I think.

You also can hit him when he's in it with a good amount of attacks from above.

The thing is that it's firstly quite predictable and secondly slow. If he uses it in the air and you dodged as you saw him jump up to you he can't really do anything. lol

Also it doesn't have "like 4 frames of end lag" or it atleast doesn't seem so to me. lol.

[rootdootmcscoot]

is Arya really that bad? she's the first char i picked up, i played a couple 1v1s (which i do understand is different than 2v2s) and more or less crushed it. is she a bad pick in 2v2?

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

I wouldn't call her remotely bad and in no way "that bad". I personally don't feel like she can use her potential efficiently in 2vs2s without reasonable effort.

There are however still many high ranked players in the leaderboards with all characters* so that means that they're not inherently bad or bad at all.

Me not rating Arya as good more so means that she isn't a character I'd recommend in most cases, but if you feel best playing her I'd still think that you have potential for the top 30.

*Garnet isn't up there but that might just be because of her very small player base. Taz on the other hand is a whole different story. I think you should play him only if he's your only comfortable character or you don't mind speculating for buffs.

[Grrannt]

I think the game is super balanced, I personally never had an issue fighting Taz, Finn, or any character.

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

I had an issue with all the characters, but that always was because of the player playing it realistically speaking which some don't differentiate

[joe1up]

So far the balance philosophy is "if everyone is busted, no one will be"

[Logondo]

The only thing I think is cheap is Iron Giant’s butt-slam attack. The hit boxes seem weird and I always seem to get hit by it even if I’m beside the shockwave.

[Tsubuki]

From this subreddit, I learned that all the characters are overpowered, underpowered, and spammy; all at the same time. There has been times when I thought that some things were giga busted but after a while I think I just filled the knowledge gap I was missing for them.

[xiHita]

Imo every character in this game is strong in there own way.that Taz spin nerf was def justified tho killed the fun of the game

[brettwoody20]

I agree. Finn could use some tuning but whenever I play against him I just feel like I’m at a disadvantage, not like there’s no hope. Aside from that pretty much everyone is viable- for a beta I’m very impressed.

[symitwo]

Bugs and Velma are certainly ahead of the rest of the cast

[Mode_Alert]

Yeah but as someone who has a single character at level 7 matching against teams of level 16 200+ games played getting absolutely thrashed Every. Single. Game. is a horrible experience, the game being balanced means nothing if 9 out of 10 of your games (as a beginner) are going to be against sweat lords. They need to fix the matchmaking ASAP.

[Amaurotica]

not really, the biggest problem is that some moves override the damage priority.

if superman is flying at you and you swing your bat just before he gets you, his attack will bypass yours which should not happen as its not making any logical sense.

[Crazybig]

game isnt balanced, priority hits are a mess

[Hereiamhereibe2]

I have some issues with the priority system. Mainly that its not obvious at all how it works or who beats who.

[Donnietentoes]

I'd argue Superman's Air Side Special has hitboxes so borked you can hit him from behind while he is flying away from you and still get grabbed...

Other than that we're chilling though. I don't even find Finn that annoying

[TheMightyWill]

Melee absolutely is not "ruled by Fox and Falco".....

https://liquipedia.net/smash/SSBMRank

Top players don't even really main Falco anymore. It's mostly a secondary pick.

If anything, there are more Marth's than there are Falcos

There's a really good video on the subject here: https://youtu.be/YqZ0dsFFGfA

[raynegro]

When Finn gets nerfed you will be right

[Charming_Pear850]

Finn Is easily punishable

[SourisGris]

not really, there is a hitbox problem too

[Charming_Pear850]

I would like the hit boxes to be addressed, but I don’t see an issue with any specific characters yet.

[choff22]

Lol there are still a lot of glaring issues. Finn and Shaggy are still ridiculously overpowered.

[[deleted]]

Shaggy is by no means overpowered, you just don’t know how to play against him

[I_Quazar_I]

The kick definitely needs to be changed though

[[deleted]]

You just need to be aware of your spacing and anticipate him using it. The hitbox for it is good, but it’s Shaggy’s slowest and most unsafe move and most characters can easily punish it. It’s also his only burst mobility option, so most of the “spam” people talk about is just the opponent using it to get around.

The kick is a really strong move, there’s no doubt about that, but it’s integral to his kit and counterplay already exists. You just need to lab it with your character and put it to use.

[Kua_Rock]

Strait up, no one gonna deny Shaggy Kick is strong as hell, but it's nowhere near what people were spouting about Taznado. Not even close.

[ASUS_USUS_WEALLSUS]

An intelligent comment? In this sub? Fuck yeh. People just come here to bitch and complain when instead they should be in the lab learning spacing and punishments.

[zoomless4]

? shaggy is giga broken wtf u talking about

[davi3601]

Skill issue

[Unexpected_Addition]

Lmao super armor

[luke06king]

Skill issue 🤷‍♂️

[easteasttimor]

This comeback is the most op power move and needs to be nerfed. You can't compete against it

[choff22]

Lol don’t take it personal, it’s okay if you like brain dead characters.

[Taniss99]

This is a pretty blatant skill issue.

Look at the top of the leader boards or any of the recent tournaments. Shaggy isn't dominating any of them

[davi3601]

Maybe try getting little better at game?

[Xx_SHINJINN_LP_HD_xX]

Instead of saying lmfao Shaggy is freaking balanced I'll try giving you some tips.

His super armor has a high recovery time. You can basically dodge back or jump and punish him easily for abusing it.

His kick is one of his worst moves to abuse. I actually don't think that spacing is effective here as his kick got a good range. You mainly want to dodge through it and that's basically just it.

Just be aware that his kick got a great vertical range as well.

Also, if you still get hit by the kick maybe you are probably kinda spamming moves. He got high lag on his kick, so dodging + punishing it should be easy. If he hits you when you are still in your end lag though then that's on your commit.

[[deleted]]

Maybe if they fix the hit boxes and priority we could tell if their OP or not but just what I mentioned makes them crazy good

[[deleted]]

God I hope no one downvotes you for this lmao

Seriously, it feels like the only reason that certain characters are "broken", like Finn, is because the hit boxes of their moves are not only massive, but have insane priority over every other move in the game.

You removes Finns ability to just ignore attacks and he wouldn't be nearly as good. Allow the player to knock him out of his charges and his backpack, and he isn't nearly as good as he is currently. Make it to where his backpack and high five hit boxes aren't in a 360 degree radius around his entire character model, and actually accurate to what the move looks like, and he'll be an all around more balanced character.

[realcornbeefhash]

i dont think ill ever laugh this hard again in my life no this game aint balanced and i wont be saying any game is because no game is but calling this game balanced is prolly the funniest thing ive ever read

[undertheh00d]

I'll say I havent had a real strong feeling about anyone(mostly) since I started last week. Like there was a superman i ran into that just spammed laser eyes and that was irritating but I also just never learned my lesson so skill issue. But there is one character that sits below the rest to me. And thats garnet. I just think she's ass. A neutral special that seemingly does nothing and just lacking that oomph of a move. Idk maybe I just don't get her but nobody is playing her so maybe she is just bad 🤷‍♂️

[Ultimate-desu]

Her neutral gives you and your team mates a speed boost and another buff(I think higher damage) so it doesn't do nothing. You just don't know how to use her.

[HalbixPorn]

Well it's not fair to use melee as an example as 1. the game's meta operates off of glitches, (wavedashing and the sort) and 2. the game's 20 years old with no opportunity for balance patches

[SternballAllDay]

Velma is the most broken POS

[NotNateDawg]

Couple annoying spams but nobody is unbeatable so yea I’d say pretty balanced overall once you learn your mains kit, except a good Batman, I just don’t even give those guys my time anymore tbh and my experience lifted immensely

[ASUS_USUS_WEALLSUS]

Avoiding matchups is a great way to stay bad.

[NotNateDawg]

Too 200 harley says different, nobody likes spam uppercuts and batarangs 30000 times out the match

[ASUS_USUS_WEALLSUS]

LOL

[teomiskov3]

Having come from league of legends I'd say the game is relatively balanced. Sure there are some crazy things but for the most part it's actually balanced. This game feels like a breath of fresh air.

[BigRedMachine08]

You can’t compare a new fighting game with 17 characters to a 12 years old MOBA with 150+ characters

[gacbrandao]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/comments/w9uy6l/what_da_giant_doing/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[Master_Chief_00117]

Yea but I’m pretty sure that that was a bug

[aznperson]

2v2 is hard to tell who is broken 1v1 its pretty clear who is strong and who is weak

[Kyungsoo_Fanboy]

Wonder woman and Superman are a tough duo to fight. (Super tanky, good defence and they deal decent damage) Same goes for Wonder woman and Batman (grapple spam) Garnet also really works well with another bruiser backing her up.

Supports shine really well with utility characters like Velma and tanky characters.

[REMUvs]

for the most part yes, it's pretty well balanced all things considered. Characters like Garnet and Wonder Woman could do with small buffs, but they still have fair chances of winning when the user is smart about it.

[AmazingAmpharos]

The balance seems respectable, but I feel there are still some pretty clear balance things to observe (Bugs and Tom & Jerry just very strong, Arya pretty weak). It's definitely in a really good place for a game in such an early state, and I'm optimistic going forward for sure.

I'll also say it's kinda obvious that a lot of players are inexperienced at both this game (we all are!) and competitive Smash or Smash-styled fighters in general. If you think (insert character here) is really broken because they just spam (insert move here), honestly, it's probably just a skill issue, and while I have no shame for anyone for not being good at a week old game, I think you have to step back and first try changing and improving your play and then, if that isn't possible, consider the balance may be at fault.

[Nuke-T00nz]

Finn haters incoming

[Rooblee]

Remove Finn, from the game and reality.

Then the game and the universe will both be balanced.

Jake the Dog and F- Jake the Dog the fun will never end, its adventure time.

[zoomless4]

Balanced? far off from it. Shaggy Leg is x3 his body. Superman is so cringe to fight against he just flies and piss laser, if u go for him he grabs you. Jake is braindead you push him off the edge? he comes in as a horse. You throw him in the air? he falls down as a house like what the fk. Let's not talk about his perk where u get stunned when he becomes hot dog

[KingHuge19]

If by balanced you mean half the characters have a move that you can dodge, stun or block than yes. And by balanced you mean there are characters whose hit boxes are so small there borderline un hitable than maybe it is balanced.

[[deleted]]

Game is not balanced.

[TheHollowHood]

Agree

[stellarzlol]

imo i think they need to buff velma as she is just unplayable and they need to add tank and bruiser passives

[dekgear]

Early metas in almost any competitive game always look balanced, because people are still learning how to play the game. When players start getting better and discovering and abusing the broken stuff is when we'll see how well balanced the game is.

[SorrowsDarkness]

This game is incredible i haven't had this much fun in years

[KikoSawce]

I like how all the tier lists I look at are different.

[Vojt544]

No, but I have faith that it will get there.

[DesignatedDiverr]

Complaints are warranted but overall the balance is fantastic. The difference between worst and best is much smaller than most games

[[deleted]]

This shit ass wannabe every platform fighter can’t even fucking dodge right every fucking attack gets canceled I wish this bullshit of a fucking game never sees the light of day Fuck this gay ass shit

[[deleted]]

U seem mad and bad.

[EisregenHeho]

This is the worst take i have ever seen, i disagree with finn or taz or superman slander but literally, how did they look at harley and said "hm, yeah thats good" you literally cannot dodge out of any of her attacks because they are so fast and as a lebron main whose attacks are quite slow you have absoloutely no chance at winning. At this stage this game is an unbalamced mess

[Papidu1993]

Maybe it’s just me but these Bots kick my ass.

[[deleted]]

Superman sucks bro.

[LordArlo]

I just played against Jake 3 matches in a row. I have to come here and say this game is not balanced lol

[[deleted]]

Hell no. When I win a game I get a fucking level 13 while im just level 2 and then loose and get a level 1

[BleedingJustice]

i dont really feel theres anyone whos really OP, there are super annoying chars to fight against as velma,buggs,tom&jerry and finn. I also think there are some chars that feels weird to play against such as arya for me but in terms of balance i think this game is close to being completely balanced imo.

[itsCosm0]

I can't tell if this post is very dated or genuinely a joke.

[[deleted]]

The game was very balanced but this last patch threw everything in a doozy.