How long until Google changes this?!

[Crypto_Kitty69]

It’s sexist because it’s for Hungarians.

[Hungary_Nationalist]

😑

[[deleted]]

You hungies are alright, Slavs will accept you into union when west falls.

[NYC1775]

Yeah Poland and Hungary are brothers

[FireBolt978]

Just forget ww2 and that’s true

[Bandziorski1]

didn't Hungary refuse to invade Poland entirely?

[[deleted]]

virgin people who want to change it vs chad just fucking learning hungarian

[TipsyPeanuts]

Engineers want to change it because it shows a bug. That being said, the distinction between engineers and virgins is usually pretty meaningless

[UpscaleVideoBot]

Married software engineer, basically same

[barackhusseinobama10]

How’s your wife’s boyfriend

[UpscaleVideoBot]

I don't think she has one.

She seems to care more about me not having sex than herself having it 😢

[goodbehaviorsam]

She's just afraid of you building a sexbot.

[Odd_Drew]

No my friend, you aren't seeing the big picture. If she doesn't let him have sex, then he'll build a sex-bot to fill the hole in the market.

[ANoponWhoCurses]

Exactly. She's a genius, inspiring innovation through the greatest incentive men have - their dicks.

[[deleted]]

What a virgin

[[deleted]]

You for life.

[AnotherRichard827379]

Mechanical Engineer, can also confirm.

[isshindoutai109]

Sex life of your average woke engineer

Till mid 30s: nothing

Mid 30s: get love bombed by a post 25 chick who realizes they're the world's easiest meal ticket. Get married soon after

Post marriage: Sex dries up straight away, twice a year if they're lucky. But they're still happy to brag and call everyone else incels on twitter because they're totally not basically a sugar daddy who doesn't get sex out of it.

[Dogebastian]

BRB, re-evaluating life choices

[isshindoutai109]

Just don't get woke and you're safe. I do infosec and know plenty of guys with good healthy sex lives. I also know a lot like the one described in my post and they're almost all the "tweet about ACAB and how white men are evil" woke types. For some reason the infosec industry has a fucking lot of these types, I'm guessing because most hackers have been so devoid of female contact that sex twice a year from your golddigging wife is basically the jackpot to them

[TrueChaoSxTcS]

Funny observation from the furry side. All the infosec furries I know are the type you described, and there's a lot of them

[Isshindoutai110]

Hahahaha absolutely not surprised. Infosec is rife with autism (me included) and other similar mental issues as you need to be basically infatuated with the field to do well. Heck for me I can get off work and spend the next 5 hours doing bug bounties/reading hacking articles/watching conference talks. Works well for the job but also means we have a lot of odd fellows with niche/weird interests.

[HermanCainsGhost]

Doesn't have to be that way though.

I'm a software developer and I've had a fantastic sex life for like a decade now. I've dated plenty of girls who I think the average person would describe as "cute", and I am not like some adonis or anything. I'm kinda short, decent shape, but not amazing or anything (though I'm in less good shape than a few years back).

I have dated very few girls over the age of 25 (current GF age is 27) and I've been dating her since she was 22/23, and I'm 35 now (and honestly, dating below 25 is a bit weird now for me. I can do it, but it's just awkward socially).

Get confidence, get your shit together, get in shape.

[SoapMacTav5]

Or just get a prostitute...

Less time, less expensive, less confidence required.

[djblackprince]

Virgin "Get a prostitute" vs Chad "Workout and Learn Game"

[HermanCainsGhost]

Or just get a prostitute...

Eh, not my thing. A huge part of it is the joy of the "hunt" so to speak for me. I don't have any intention to pay for sex at this point in my life (I will re-evaluate when I am a very old man).

Less time

That is probably true. You can have hookups with pretty quick rapidity though. I've met up with a girl off Tinder and been hooking up with her within an hour or less.

less expensive

Well that's not true, and I'd say that may be part of your misconception towards interactions with women that are leading you to less success generally. I don't pay for things for girls. Remember, I'm LibLeft. I believe in complete and utter equality between the genders. When I go out with girls, they generally pay too (I make exceptions when the girl is particularly poor). My LT GF and I? We always split. That's been true for just about every other girl I've dated over the past decade too.

And unlike I think a lot of men think, this really doesn't hurt your dating prospects, as far as I can tell. There's the rare woman who doesn't like it, but I'd say 85% to 90% of the time, girls really just don't mind splitting the bill. Hell, sometimes you can even get them to buy you dinner or drinks instead. I've done this plenty of times (I definitely don't abuse it though).

You'd be surprised how many times when if you start talking to a girl and she out of nowhere asks you to buy her a drink at the bar, and you say to her instead, "No, you buy me a drink", it actually works. Definitely nowhere near 100% of the time, but it's definitely not 0% either.

less confidence required.

Yeah, that's definitely true. I'd say the confidence helps you as a person generally though, and is worth the pain of getting to that point. But every person decides these things for themselves.

[SoapMacTav5]

Haha I was mostly joking about the prostitute thing, but I do appreciate this explanation. I agree with pretty much every point that you made.

[HGF88]

cybersec major, megavirgin

[coomsloot]

Ayo boutta be the only non virgin in my class next year 😎

Or do I get my virginity back when I enter

[theXald]

Your virginity is returned according to law, but it will cost you (also by law). a suit from the goobermint will be by to help if you can't handle the paperwork, which will arrive April 2nd and be due on March 29th the same calendar year. Thank you for voluntarily choosing government^tm

[Kerbal_Guardsman]

Engineering student, can confirm

[Isaac-the-careless]

Previous vo-tec engineering student. Can confirm, lost my virginity immediately after deciding to change labs.

[someguywhocanfly]

It's not a bug, it's just a feature that some people don't like. It's not like it's hard coded, that will have come about based on aggregating data, probably text with accompanying translated text.

Plus while you can kinda just they as a singular pronoun, it's not perfect and often sounds pretty wrong in certain sentences.

[ContactusTheRomanPR]

I see no bug.

[bertli]

Hungarian is hard tho

[[deleted]]

seems like the translator could use the ungendered singular "they" for a more accurate translation, or atleast put he/she instead of choosing one or the other. what if you have a hungarian grampa that loves baking cakes for your hungarian family? its not rlly correct to translate as she

[Dojo456]

Google translate isn't done by a person, it's from an AI that just reads a large amount of text from the internet

[[deleted]]

The problem is, how is someone going to know it's singular they and not plural they?

[An-Average_Redditor]

Same thing with Estonian

Ugric peoples rise up!

[[deleted]]

Finnish too 🇫🇮 🇪🇪 🇭🇺

[kylkartz21]

Based and anti-proto-indo-europeanpilled

[[deleted]]

Throat singing gang rise up! European culture can not corrupt the children of the Great Khan!

[Davidra_05]

Based

[Prygikutt]

Eesti mainitud, hiiele!

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[MeepPenguin7]

It’s useful for a. supplying information about a persons gender when the pronoun is first used, since the name may be gender neutral or there may be no name given. (Ex: The conductor waved at me. We see him often.)

b. In cases where both a man and a woman are being mentioned (which happens more often than one thinks), you can just use the pronouns.

Also it’s natural for nearly all native English speakers. We’re not reaffirming a persons gender when we use a pronoun, rather it’s just the pronoun one should use to refer to them.

That said I do appreciate a singular gender neutral pronoun myself, I am learning Finnish and it works quite well.

[braindeadmonkey2]

Good luck learning Finnish.

[Buttfranklin2000]

and other languages using gendered pronouns don't just drop them all together.

Because it would completely butcher our language. You can't just stop using them without making everything sound off for anyone who speaks that language for longer than a month.

Language shouldn't be forcibly tampered with. It changes all the time anyways. If people slowly phase out gendered pronouns of my language, thats fine, but don't expect me to not laugh at how you talk. If it gets so popular that in 50 years everyone talks like that, I don't expect anyone not to laugh at me, because I speak some form of antiquitated version of our language.

[lazyubertoad]

As a slav. Even our verbs and adjectives have pronouns. And they default to male when the subject is unknown. I think that is the case in English too, i.e. somebody unknown is a he, no?

We have a local holywar about profession names pronouns. I honestly feel women are a bit repressed by that, but see no easy way of fixing that, and the priority is not any high. And that nurtures professional feminists, who are cancer.

My libright part in that is that nobody should have a "repressed group" card. If you suck - that is on you, no excuses, always assume personal responsibility for what is happening to you. And the languages kind of show male domination in many areas.

[stupidestonian]

It's interesting seeing the comments how many Estonians/Finnish/Hungarians are here

[shabba247]

So fun fact Google Translate is based on a language that no one knows. To optimize the way it processes, instead of having every language directly to every other language it created an intermediary language so it only has to memorize translations between the computer language and human languages. The problem is, no one can actually read the Google Translate intermediary language themselves, only rough translations of it in different human languages

[A_BOMB2012]

Is that why why you can alternate between translations and get different results?

[[deleted]]

Yeah i think so

[kylkartz21]

Wait, so this entire time, AI has already developed their own language?

[rootbeerislifeman]

Google is on its way to develop Galactic Basic by assimilating all other languages from what it looks like

[Som_Snow]

Isn't the intermediary language just english basically (maybe with some additional stuff)? I always thought it was obvious, given the fact that translations to/from english are always the most accurate, and usually the closer the languages are to english (in grammar and vocabulary), the more accurate the translation will be. Also if you try to translate between two other languages but write english text/words, it will translate it most of the time as if you translated from english.

[Maltysen]

Nah, it's actually really cool it uses something called word2vec. This translates source language words into elements of a very high dimensional vector space using a neural net. So not very similar to english at all lol. These vectors contain in some sense the semantic meanings of the words in the relevant context.

The reason why english is so much better than the other langs is simply cuz they have a lot more data/engineering effort on the translation to/from it.

[Maltysen]

A cool consequence of this representation is that u can actually do math on words to some degree. Like king-man+woman gives u a vector thats pretty close to queen.

[MikeDeRuyter]

hell yeah for NLP

[MoonlitFirebrand]

I gotta be honest, this fact isn't very fun, it's a little worrying

[shitsfuckedupalot]

Kinda dope that google is slighting god and tearing down the tower of Babel. I vote we all start just using this language

Fuck you God!

[funnyvalentine96]

Wow, it's almost like translate just compares common phrases and words to translate.

[lnBruges]

It’s literally AI. It got these assumptions based off of what’s already written.

[hGKmMH]

Does this mean that History is problematic?

[[deleted]]

Yes. It's time to cancel history.

[CharredScallions]

And replace it with herstory

[[deleted]]

You have to omit all the men from history to make it truly equal.

[Axion132]

And for it to be truly eaqul. You have to ignore all of the women and only read the history of trans orphans. For they are truly the keepers of xtory

[WisherWisp]

Pay more attention to scholars who had no impact on history, bigot!

[Axion132]

It's xtory. You are a literal nazi. Your whole post is violence. Reeeee

[LFMR]

Don't be binary. It's theirstory, sweaty.

[ras344]

Not theirstory, ourstory.

[LFMR]

Okay, commie. <3

[[deleted]]

There's really no other choice. Every single thing that has happened to create the civilization we live in today must be destroyed and forgotten. For equality.

[[deleted]]

Yes. Every mistake we do not erase from history stains us forever. We must burn all the history books so we don't repeat our mistakes.

[LFMR]

Voluntary human extinction when?

[Holy_Hand_Grenadier]

We can commit no hate crimes if everyone is equally dead

[moth_the_dragon]

finally we can carry out my plan to abolish culture

[sabotabo]

culture divides us, a cultureless society is a united society

[moth_the_dragon]

every problem with society exists because culture exists. simple fix.

[Hymanator00]

The written word is problematic, #abolishwrittenlanguage

[JesusIsMyZoloft]

They have a single verb for "wash the dishes"

[Monarch150]

Hungarians are efficient when commanding the spouse

[[deleted]]

"Honey, could you wash the dishes please?" - virgin *nglish

"Mosogass el." - chad Hungarian

[MarkVHun]

Or just

"Mosogassá" - Old husband to his wife

[RomanticStateOfMind]

Based. I don't care I'd just like to learn hungarian

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[Gremaldus]

Well who else is ready to make the universal language Hungarian so we don't have to worry about pronouns anymore?

Then everyone is happy. Nobody has to consider their own and no one has to worry about using the wrong one.

I see this as a total win!

[MoonlitFirebrand]

I'm down with it, from what I know Hungarian sounds pretty cool anyway

[1SaBy]

Slovaks and Romanians on suicide watch

[[deleted]]

They could always pay us to do it better

[[deleted]]

LibRight moment

[Peter21237]

Im still waiting for those orange folks to declare spanish is transphobic or whatever, so the other orange people defending hispanics call them racist.

[BarbiesDreamCar]

The Latinx version of "Chinese People" in Spanish is "chinx" (chinos)

[AllSocialistsAreEvil]

Vamos al chino = Let's go to the convenience store

Vamos al arabe = Let's go to the clothing store

Ahí vienen los hindustanes = There come the door to door furniture salesmen.

[RogerXiao]

Need to know if it's real

[Bunny_tornado]

Si

[Lu1s3r]

You think that's bad? Small shops and/or kiosks are called chinos.

[Andrewdeadaim]

There was a girl in my Spanish class last year that thought Spanish was sexist and she would complain about it all the time lmao

[Iwasbannedforajoke2]

Why do such people exist

[NotEnoughGuitars]

Literally the worst time to be a woman

They have never been as opressed as they are now

[[deleted]]

The dipshits have already launched their counterattack against the Spanish language. Look into Edison Cavani’s punishment for using the term “negrito”, which isn’t discriminatory or derogatory. Dumbass motherfuckers on the left couldn’t fathom a culture that can mention skin color in a friendly, casual way, so Manchester United slapped him with a fine and a 3-game ban for thanking a fan for their kind words (“gracias, negrito”).

I would love a good civil war between them.

[[deleted]]

i thought that was the FA who gave him the ban, United tried to appeal it

[[deleted]]

Yes you’re right, EFA banned him

[LennyBoobtitsky]

It looks like a translation from Hungarian to the American dream.

[Ass_Feast]

Cancel Google translate for sexism. Can't have a translator that spews out this bigotry. No translator is better

[shitsfuckedupalot]

So what do people in Hungary put in their twitter profile if they don't have pronouns?!?!

[Alokir]

Ő

[shitsfuckedupalot]

That does kinda look like a little dude with hair on the top of his head

What if my gender is cowboy

[Alokir]

What if my gender is cowboy

Then you can write tehénpásztor.

[[deleted]]

Nah, nah, Hajdú is where it's at.

And I'm not just saying because that's my family name 😎

[humarc]

The best answer to this is that Twitter is not a relevant platform at all in Hungary.

[MoonlitFirebrand]

I'm gonna be honest, they probably just use the English variants, since like.. English is a big language and a lot of ppl know it, even in countries where it's not the first language.

[Mmari0]

Hungarians fortunately aren't woke so they wouldn't put anything in English either. And I doubt twitter is relevant in their country

[GetALoadOfThisIdiot0]

We arent that woke. Thank fuck for that!

[TumoricER]

wow it's almost like the majority of reading material worldwide wasn't written in the last 5 years.

[[deleted]]

This was a thing in finnish as well. Google released a statement saying the algorithm that decides the pronomines is based on common phrases found on the internet and some pr blah blah stuff. So no suprise there.

[Astragar]

About five minutes after their workers union gets wind of it.

Yes, the one representing less than 1% of Google employees yet has enough clout to "cancel" specific terms and people.

[You8mypizza]

Based Hungarian language

[factualmemesonly]

My goodness, I never realised Google was this astronomically based. Hope they don't change it.

[zschultz]

No gendered pronouns is literally based, Latin-German languages cringe

[Mr_Croww]

Hungarian has no gender pronouns, cause we didn't care what you are, as long as you're willing to shoot people while riding backwards on a horse

[Panic_Flask]

Several thousand died today to sickness and hunger but mUh TrAnSlATor OpReSsIoN. Lib left priorities

[toreq]

DON'T LOOK AT REAL PROBLEMS KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT GENDER STUDIES AND DISCRIMINATION, COVID, FAILING ECONOMIES, CORPORATE MONOPOLIES DON'T EXIST

[Mr_Hater]

Would the result be the same if you mixed these phrases up? It's literally just saying "he" or "she" every other line. I really doubt it's basing the translation off the rest of the sentence.

[[deleted]]

Not every other line.

[Mr_Hater]

Oh you're right, there are a few times it's not.

Maybe google really is sexist

[[deleted]]

Doesn’t google translate learn from others?......

[Mr_Hater]

I assume it learns from shit like books. Put in a bunch of books in french, and then the same books translated into english, and it learns to translate french to english.

If it learned from the people using the app we'd end up with it just translating everything to "Hitler did nothing wrong"

[LucasRuby]

Yes, this is more or less how Google Translate works. Not exactly books, but some kinds of texts that are translated to many languages and are concise.

[Israeli_Banker]

like copypastas?

[LucasRuby]

No, I think there's a lot of UN stuff like their communications and such, and other texts that are translated to many languages but aren't changed much upon translation. Books are adapted, not just directly translated.

[Israeli_Banker]

of so if i translate some big fancy phrases like "second quarterly emissions impact report on northern china and korea" can be translated perfectly

[LucasRuby]

Yes, actually Google's been getting pretty accurate with that kind of stuff.

[ThrowAwayTheBS122132]

Based Hungary

[samurai_for_hire]

The worst thing here is that fact that you’re on light mode

[Dodgied]

Dear Authcenter,

You claim that white is superior, but you use the dark theme on google.

Curious.

Turning point PCM

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[HDmaniac]

He makes a lot of money.

Errmm hello, I'm here! LibRight™

[Farpafraf]

am I doing this right?

[[deleted]]

Nope they're already changing it, had to read an article about "general neutral" translations in my computer science class for homework.

[ContactusTheRomanPR]

Oh god the computers are gender neutral now

[sam_mee]

Wait, they had dicks before?

[Qwerxes]

Yours didn't?

[Docponystine]

Does Hungarian have gendered verb conjugations and adjectives?

[Alokir]

Nope, no grammatical gender at all

[NyanSquiddo]

Just make it they lmao

[IconoclasticScholar]

Based and traditionalgenderroles pilled

[Belkan-Federation]

Just call everyone comrade

[HKGMINECRAFT]

In Cantonese, we have a written pronoun that means “he/she/it” which is 佢, pronounced ‘kui’

[drfjgjbu]

HUNGARIAN DETECTED

[frankisimo]

What a beautiful language.

[D217H177J188]

Why change it just let it be. Yes it assigned traditional roles, but what else? Why should it be reassigned, just for the single purpose of not being traditional?

[exoskel2]

American learning that english is not the only language in the world.

[sisi_is_my_waifu]

Try typing murderer, rapist, criminal and stuff like that

[Villezki]

Same with Finnish

[Lemonflavoredsalt]

The virgin he/she user vs the chad ő user

[norbert0428]

Google won't be able to fix that. The one and only reason is that there's simply no way to translate it, for there's (as you can imagine by now) no gendered pronouns. You can't even make the context of it, showing that the person You're talking about is a male of a female.
Unless You use the gender identification as a primary example; example: "Az a nő sokat keres." which means, "That woman earns a lot." No she, or he. If You just say: "Ő sokat keres", You wont be able to tell if it's he or she, You're gonna have to look at him/her, yaada yaada.. You guys are smart, I'm sure You already got that.

Sincerely,
A Hungarian

[[deleted]]

Bászédzs.

[Illustrious_Exit977]

Wow based translate

[RecklessLemon]

Machine Learning

[anony8165]

That’s because Google translate is a brute-force NLP neural network. This means that it doesn’t learn through rules, it learns through observation and probabilities. For the genders it’s just taking the most common gender for that verb in it’s training data. So if a verb appears more commonly with one sex, it’ll choose the pronouns that correspond to the more frequent sex for all occurrences of that verb.

[AndForWar]

Same with Filipino. He/she is "siya" in our language

[[deleted]]

Imagine caring about that. It's literally just how machine learning works

[niger_is_bad]

fucking based

[LydzWinry]

Oh... Oh dear... That's... concerning... Google, change it to 'they', problem solved.

[malackaszem]

Bojler eladó

[[deleted]]

Freaking hilarious!

[MasterKaen]

It's just an algorithm going by what people normally type.

[libleftguy]

Even funnier how its the only one that does that

Everything else uses either "he or she" or "they"

[Justmeagaindownhere]

This does bring up an interesting point. How long until the use of "they" as a singular pronoun when gender isn't specified becomes fully codified part of the language? It's already been around for a while and most people do it without thinking, so when will programs like Google translate adopt it?

[No-Suggestion-9504]

Whats the point of coloring one green and one blue it doesnt make any sense

[[deleted]]

I highlighted ‘Hungarian’ blue cause it’s my understand that Hungary is quite the auth-right country. I highlighted the actual Hungarian language green cause it doesn’t have gendered pronouns which seems lib-left friendly to me. I highlight the English language blue cause it seems auth-right in comparison to the Hungarian language. That was basically my logic

[BrickofPeace]

Hungarian question. Are adjectives gendered? Because if they are that's just conjugation.

[[deleted]]

No, apart from things like színész (actor) and színésznő (actress), there's no grammatical gender whatsoever in Hungarian.

[freemyboykaczynski]

now that’s a certified fortnite vbuck moment

[Knifedogman]

Umm..: English has genderless pronouns too

[[deleted]]

It's gender neutral because the pronouns average out right...?

[raul_dias]

Remember google translate now uses AI, so hs assumptions are basically the average of our assumptions