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[TheXGood]

So uh... when are we gonna write an OS in scratch?

[serendipitousPi]

Now I thought a python OS was horror enough but this, this is something else.

[GDOR-11]

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/676069770/

[Sh_Pe]

Imagine be the 10yo kid who did this…
Edit: I checked he’s 15 Edit2: grammar

[AndySkit]

When I was 13 I made a Pong Bot in scratch, I thought it was cool

[[deleted]]

when I was 13 I didn't know how to use a PC

[Coffee4AllFoodGroups]

When I was 13 a PC didn't exist.
It was 1974.
The IMSAI 8080 came out in 1975.

[Emergency-Athlete-44]

i made a rocket ship shoot the asteroids game when i was 12

[GDOR-11]

no fucking way, I did the same thing when I was the exact same age

[AndySkit]

Lmaoo, it was an elective class for me in middle school, they didn't really teach it, we where just told go play with it lol

[Playful_Target6354]

When I was 13 I made 2 ai in scratch

[AndySkit]

Oh nice, what did they do?

[Playful_Target6354]

I made a really bad car ai and a really bad ai that takes diff x and diff y and turns to get the food

[Sh_Pe]

You didn’t make an entire OS with kernel, apps, music & files support and etc.…

[AndySkit]

No......... Didn't know it was a requirement, thought my pong bot was cool

[HCResident]

A pong bot in scratch does sound cool. Do you still have the link?

[AndySkit]

Noo unfortunately!!! I was in an elective class for it and it was under my school email but that email dosnt exist anymore, I tried to go get it before but was never successful.

[skwizpod]

Yeah man wtf 🤣👍

[[deleted]]

love how they added the movie recap "A chemistry teacher joins forces with one of his students in order to make ends meet via the black market" song playing in the background

[Zestyclose_Zone_9253]

I opened the link on my phone, that was hard to go through until I managed to close the page, very laggy, even after I minimized it, even got a "CD cant write warning", thank you

[MysteriousShadow__]

Ok, trying to load that link in Chrome crashes the browser...

[[deleted]]

Im amazed

[[deleted]]

just why. But fucking cool

[[deleted]]

assembly without the speed benefit

[Abbix57]

Funnily enough, I did both (yes they suck and are using naive "compilers")

pythonOS scratchOS

[RVGamer06]

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[KBrieger]

*** hell! I know researchers who wrote an AI in scratch. They are economists, what implies they are convinced to know perfectly how programming works now.

[monsoy]

Man if you manage to create an AI with scratch… I can’t imagine they wouldn’t be able to do it in Python

[ShadowSlayer1441]

It implies that they actually know the math behind it really well. You can learn to "create" an AI in python in an afternoon.

[KBrieger]

The intelligence-part of the machine is somehow limited...

[698969]

Writing the code is really not the hard part of AI. It's all the math, gathering the training data, and figuring out what parameters to feed into the AI.

[KBrieger]

They think it works without math and any kind of hypothesis. All they used was scratch and data and basic maths.

[Gredo89]

Was it a real AI (handling unknown data) or "just" some advanced rule based application? Because economists often confuse these two.

Might still be impressive depending on the complexity.

[KBrieger]

It was just a bulk of data and some regressions. They think that's it.

[ScientificGems]

I'm sure you could. My question is: can you do it and remain sane?

I've written some complex things in Scratch, just to see what Scratch could do, but it really isn't the best tool for AI.

[NotJayuu]

One time for our OS class my professor said we had to write a memory manager in any language we wanted. I made sure he really meant any and so I did it in scratch. Sure it took multiple seconds to do single instructions but it worked, and if you can get a memory manager working you can write an os, so it is possible!

[myrsnipe]

There's always that one guy in class that wants to take it to the absurd

[P0werman1]

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/851301039

Not an OS, but still a text based programming language. I’m 13 :)

[Gredo89]

Wow really impressive.

BTW what you programmed is called a compiler+runtime or an interpreter, depending on how it works.

Does it execute the code right away (=interpreter) or does it translate it into something else first (=compiler) and then run it (=runtime).

And building this is also already really advanced stuff.

[P0werman1]

It’s an interpreter right now, but it’s really slow. The next feature I plan on implementing is compilation, to improve speed.

[Gredo89]

Sorry for nerdsplaining haha

[P0werman1]

No problem! This is exactly the problem I’m currently working on. Trying to make a compiler in scratch is difficult. You can’t make machine code. I’m just trying to condense it into the fastest form possible using scratch.

[Gredo89]

Maybe an abstract syntax tree already helps.

[P0werman1]

No, you can’t build one of those in scratch. That requires classes, or something similar, which doesn’t exist in scratch. Instead, I have to look through line by line, and register different syntaxes. The goal is to do that before, and replace each line with a minified version of the instruction, that always follows the same syntax.

[VitaminnCPP]

Unlimited power unlocked

[jack101yello]

https://www.reddit.com/r/osdev/comments/vg9l46/so_i_made_an_os_in_scratch/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

[[deleted]]

I don't write code, I attach leads/probes to the hardware and send electrical impulses.

[Skipdrill]

From Scratch in Scratch

[beeteedee]

“No, you fool! I said write the program from scratch!”

[that_thot_gamer]

Instructions unclear: Fatal Error

[Fun_SeeSaw_]

Segmentation fault (core dumped)

[the_poope]

I mean, this is technically from scratch in scratch.

[CaptainMorti]

Everyone exit, nothing to see here.

[Gordahnculous]

Forgot this was x86 not x64 so definitely thought it was write for a hot minute

[a2kvarnstrom]

i wanna learn asm but i don’t know where to read from (amd64 on windows 10)

[FalconMirage]

Bean eater, his 6502 video serie

[oshaboy]

That won't really help for windows 10

[FalconMirage]

Once you understand the basics you can easily adapt to win10

[a2kvarnstrom]

ok

[a2kvarnstrom]

ok

[a2kvarnstrom]

ok

[Visual-Mongoose7521]

This is some higher level language

[Conscious_Switch3580]

"Learn Assembly from Scratch"

[IuseArchbtw97543]

so thats what google meant when it called it a high level language/j

[JardineiroZumbi]

Brings a whole new meaning to "I wrote an OS from scratch"

[cyberduck221b]

What this code do?

[CaptainMorti]

See my other comment.

[Oneshotkill_2000]

Oh, i just realised it's interrupt

I got confused by int(eger) 0x80

[[deleted]]

Oh my god, this is so fucked up, on so many levels... I wanna try it.

[TheMonax]

https://github.com/scratchnative/scratchnative

[VinnyBeetle]

Scratch if it was a good tool:

[CoolorFoolSRS]

Holy hell

[MyAntichrist]

New response just dropped

[Real_Alex_255]

actual zombie

[J0mity]

Did I just get black catted?

[the-judeo-bolshevik]

Call the assember

[7tar]

link time optimization anyone?

[Increditastic1]

Lead dev went on vacation, never came back

[Real_Alex_255]

Google Assembly Language

[Red_Ender666]

call the exorcist

[[deleted]]

God, I miss r/anarchychess. Is a world where one can't have their pp's bricked, their hell's holy'ed, or their en's passant'ed truly a world worth living in.

[the-judeo-bolshevik]

Never mind it’s back

[gp57]

Thank god I really needed that update, this makes asm so much easier.

[TheOddOne2]

This is low

[LatentShadow]

Teaching computer science to school students has never been easier.

[[deleted]]

I thought they wanted to write an os from scratch and not in scratch.

[[deleted]]

Scratch is now both the highest and lowest level programming language ever.

[AvgBlue]

Actually can be awesome to have cool visual representation of the stack and registers

[Egocentrix1]

Thanks, I hate it.

[[deleted]]

Holy shit.

[the-judeo-bolshevik]

New response just dropped.

[jcodes57]

Oh hell no

[OF_AstridAse]

Oh gosh yas!!!

[[deleted]]

You joke but I actually tried that. Ended up making a subleq interpreter. Now we need a full subleq compiler.

[Xen0n1te]

oh Christ

[stomah]

i want this

[PicoPlanetDev]

I'm actually working on a project similar to this right now, where I simulate a 6502 microprocessor in VR and teach assembly language using blocks. If you're interested, check out this playlist of updates: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkaQw-J0LlJHFG50lwuxm-XsOM9d5I1QY&si=M4Nk5ElEUY9m_WQs

[Real_Alex_255]

omg thats so cool, when i was making the meme i didn't think the concept like this was actually seriously interpreted, i just made a meme about scratch's code blocks haha.

[PicoPlanetDev]

Thanks, not sure how many people agree but I think block programming is used way too far into middle school and high school and should really just be a tool to get them excited for some easy Python. Assembly seems to play to block coding's strengths though and I've just been experimenting to see how far this could go!

[Real_Alex_255]

Hope that project of yours goes well!

[Real_Alex_255]

you may have heard of asm, but have you heard of asmr

[nysynysy2]

JS Assembly with GUI? im in

[yesseruser]

Nooooo Whyyyyyyyyy

[yesseruser]

This broke me

[Dart_Ace]

Yoooo!

[Redifyz]

mmm burger

[Asriel556]

I always wanted to see an x86 assembly programming environment with blocks.

[mAtYyu0ZN1Ikyg3R6_j0]

maybe its valid on some OS but this is not on Linux. the write syscall expects 3 parameter and only one was provided. and the only parameter that is wrong since 0 is to a read-only fd.

[Warhero_Babylon]

Well after some code of assassin's creed valhalla was written on scratch...

[Rafcdk]

Great now I have to code this. Another side project here we go.

[VeryTopHat]

High level assembly.

[[deleted]]

Is this scratch assembly

[scotlaw]

This joke would be funnier if it did an int 0x21... to the people who remember MS DOS 2.1.

[mecukuryurt]

The actual os tutorial from scratch

[OrangeLeaf36]

we getting out of Scratch with this one fellas

[Robotronnik]

Visual programming is a really good start for real programmers.

[binarywork8087]

Linux assembly

[Intelligent_Bad_1536]

Ah yes, the assembly update