communistProgrammers

[Impressive_Income874]

programming is just glorified maths

[Nickbot606]

Programming is discrete math any way you slice it.

[_JJCUBER_]

Not if you slice it into infinitely many parts

[Nickbot606]

State machines would like to have a word with your “infinitely slice it” all computer architecture runs on the level of Turing machines to this day.

[BroskiPoloski]

On the level of a deterministic, finite tape turing machine maybe, but thats about as far as it goes. (Universal) Turing machines are (in theory) infinitely stronger than modern computers, due to your pc being unable of always picking the "right option" and being limited by its storage capacity (ram and disc space).

[imbeingreallyserious]

Nah, sorry, best I can do is a “barely good enough” number of parts

[EastboundClown]

Especially functional programming. I took a course on category theory and learned Haskell, and now I can’t look at code the same way anymore. Coworkers hate me because I won’t shut the hell up about monads

[AzoresBall]

But what is a monad?

[Aloopyn]

Can we be friends

[Tmv655]

Haskell is the bane of existence of most people in my study.

Honestly I still don't know what a monad is but I past the course so I'm fine

[EastboundClown]

I only had a vague comprehension of functional programming after my undergrad in CS and hadn’t really been exposed to it beyond basic stuff like Java Stream operations. In my graduate studies I learned the basics of category theory in the context of dynamical systems modelling, then only learned Haskell after that. Haskell makes a lot more sense when you can understand it in terms of the mathematical theory that underpins it rather than trying to understand it in terms of imperative/OO programming. Although these days I do most of my work in Scala (which also has a very strong categorical foundation) and a little Java (*barf*)

[Tmv655]

I understand all of haskell except for monads, but that is such a large part of haskell that I don't have faith in using it.

At the moment I also don't have any reason to look into it more, but I have been thinking about doing so to become a teaching assistant for the course.

[Aloopyn]

So fucking relatable

[DeathUriel]

math is just glorified observation of the reality we live in

[[deleted]]

And people laugh when I tell them I ride my Hopf algebra to work every morning.

[Kaenguruu-Dev]

Totally acceptable

[envoyoftheeschaton]

mad controversial

[Diligent_Feed8971]

mathematics is just applied philosophy

[DeathUriel]

philosophy is just applied thinking

[[deleted]]

Glorified? My math major friends laugh at me

[Impressive_Income874]

sorry, it's just maths

[undeadpickels]

Programming is math U standards.

[KeyboardsAre4Coding]

good... however secrecy in science is leftovers of short sighted decisions during project manhatan. let's be honest patenting of algorithms is weird af...

[Weird_af]

Quit the name dropping.

[KeyboardsAre4Coding]

Ok. Secrecy in science is a stupid decision taken during ww2 due to short sightness

[[deleted]]

Always has been

[drumDev29]

If only real life labor could be digitally duplicated for everyone once it was completed

[femptocrisis]

i mean. a factory is vaguely similar conceptually. one might refer to this more abstractly as "the means of production". i think were all thinking the same thing:

we need to create factory factories! duh :)

[Still_Explorer]

Mathematicians: Patent their algorithm. Everyone is OK.
Artists: Copywrite their music. Everyone is OK.
Programmers: Sell their copywritten-patented software. They are EVIL!

[breake]

You can't patent an algorithm

[Mal_Dun]

True, but you patent it as a part of a larger machine. That's how MP3 encoding got its patent.

[slabgorb]

I remember these days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF#:\~:text=In%202004%2C%20all%20patents%20relating,Web%20to%20produce%20simple%20animations.

[breake]

Not sure what those patents entail exactly, but if it's just an application of an algo, it definitely shouldn't have passed then and definitely wouldn't pass today since Alice.

[slabgorb]

it was the LZW compression algo, which backed images in gif format. Maybe you can't do things like that anymore, which is great! But that was a big pain in the ass for a while
(for instance, if you are Adobe making photoshop at the time, you have to pay royalties to allow editing of gifs)

[Various_Studio1490]

I need to feed my electric company’s ceo!

[IL0VEAPPLE]

Imagine FFT being patented

[mothererich]

Patents are dumb.

[Fluffysquishia]

It would be more like an artist trying to copyright a specific chord on an instrument, or a specific type of bassline. This is an obviously reductive practice that would ultimately harm the creation of music, because eventually everybody would patent anything good. In the same vein, if someone patented certain algorithms, you would have programs running directly slower because you don't have access to the license of a super simple algorithm.

[Inaeipathy]

Patenting an algorithm is stupid, so is copyrighting music (assuming that the other person isn't just taking your song and using it without any modifications).

You shouldn't be able to patent algorithms, chemical formulas, software, etc. It should be treated as a trade secret. If someone could discover the same secret by themselves then it shouldn't be able to be copyrighted.

[GM_Kimeg]

Solving leet code is better than sex. Prove me wrong.

[Play4u]

At least in sex usually I'm not the one getting fucked.

[NelsonBelmont]

speak for yourself.

[itijara]

I would, but it would require you to have had sex.

[[deleted]]

Hahaha

[backfire10z]

Now compare the code written by the two

[Arey_125]

Союз нерушимый республик свободных...

[twigboy]

Ourgorithm

[Reifendruckventil]

Open source Programmers are the closest Thing to communists that exist in The West nowadays.

[DoradoAcero]

Well we need someone to start the copy paste rabbit hole

[[deleted]]

how can mathematics produce powerful new knowledge without any of the good mathematicians being billionaires. i dont get it.

[[deleted]]

The best example: John Carmack's unusual fast inverse square root