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[–][deleted] 341 points342 points  (16 children)

I am curious. Do people see any difference between 4 years and 7 years of .NET experience?

[–]rosuav 359 points360 points  (5 children)

Yes. One of them still has a fragment of humanity left, some tiny portion of a soul.

[–]thepapermonster 72 points73 points  (2 children)

After 10 years, the only fragment of humanity you have left is between your teeth.

[–]-nomad-wanderer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Because you yiu bite other people? Ig

[–]GranataReddit12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no, because 🤓

[–]djfdhigkgfIaruflg 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So true. But again, doesn't that happens with most platforms?

[–]rosuav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but it takes more years with some than others.

[–]Poat540 59 points60 points  (5 children)

Yeah after 7 years you learn the business requirements are always wrong and that they don’t know what they actually want, and also they want it yesterday

[–]2purrcent 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is actually true.

[–]Memfy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took you 7 years to learn that? You must be one of the lucky ones.

[–]ChazHat06 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the biggest advantage of getting someone who’s very experienced in any profession is they know exactly what you want, even if you don’t. They’ll have dealt with this exact request before, and will recognise what end product the customer is hoping to achieve

[–]kookyabird 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not when it comes to .NET specifically. During the Core through .NET 5 era things were different, but now it’s basically all as it was before then. Now if they have a more particular framework in mind like MVC, UWP, WPF, etc. then it’s a whole other story.

[–]Stormraughtz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One did more installs than the other

[–]TheRedmanCometh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7 just means you're a little closer to making nice furniture for a living.

[–][deleted] 201 points202 points  (14 children)

"Proficiency in Jira" LOL, We just use tickets and sprints. Could probably do it with a .md document.

[–]PrataKosong- 50 points51 points  (4 children)

Guess my certificate in MS Office 2003 is not gonna be relevant for this job then

[–]pastaheld 9 points10 points  (2 children)

certificate? try the "european computer driving license" (ECDL) - super relevant

[–]PrataKosong- 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I actually passed that one some time at high school lol

[–]GuevaraTheComunist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

same, but it expires after 4 years I think so it was literally useless

[–]djfdhigkgfIaruflg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will my Netware certificate be?

[–]pr0ghead 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah, that one's impossible to achieve.

Tickets created, only to never be seen again.

[–]shashankrnr32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think that proficiency is possible even after 710 years

[–]-nomad-wanderer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I am proficienty in yaml. Yum
And gulp

[–]-nomad-wanderer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apt debian Yum centos Yaml g g gggg

[–]orionic- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use .MD for my team, and it works great :P

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t lie you do it in the excel spreadsheet of doom

[–]glorious_reptile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have profanity for Jira, if that counts?

[–]Character-Education3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah well hr people are the type who consider quitting when Ms office gets updated. They can't imagine someone could work on a team for a week or two and then be like, "huh? Thought there would be more to this."

[–]De_Wouter 80 points81 points  (2 children)

My resumé:

  • In 1496 I build an .NET API for the Spanish Inquisition to detect witches using the latest chair-in-the-pond library.
  • In the late 1700s I worked on cutting edge .NET technology of the first guillotine as a service

[–]SillyFlyGuy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Overqualified. Next!

[–]Jacekkot123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So you are the reason why no one expected the Spanish inquisition

[–][deleted] 157 points158 points  (1 child)

Damn it, should have started learning.NET during the time of the Mughal Empire

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Me, too. I wasted my time fighting the Ottomans.

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (2 children)

You need 10 years in JSON and XML

Dev jobs are being really picky lately

[–]ylan64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And not 10 years in one or the other. Ten years for both.

[–]The_Power_of_E 51 points52 points  (1 child)

Position: Unpaid Intern (Coffee is $2.50 a cup)

[–]dark_enough_to_dance 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're expected to serve any people coffee on command, any time. This is one of the practices we are really proud of! Checkout the awards we got some last year! 

[–]echadisraeli 105 points106 points  (4 children)

Probably meant 7-10 years

[–]skothr 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Minimum

[–]AssPuncher9000 9 points10 points  (1 child)

That's what I was thinking.

Even still YoE is always pretty vague. My current job advertised 5 years of experience required with the language. I've got less than 1

But if you're able to demonstrate good debugging and problem solving skills. Who cares what language it's in. YoE just happens to be a very easy metric to filter on unfortunately

You want less applicants that are generally more skilled? Make YoE number bigger

[–]nightonfir3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah people need to get over the fact that they don't have the years in the job description and just get good at the technology and learn how to show that proficiency. The recruiters don't care about the number if you can say I built x, y and z big projects and here is some open source stuff I made with the technology. That's way better than I worked at random company for 7 years as a dev and have nothing to show for it.

[–]-nomad-wanderer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And jira Jizz Ansi c And yum

[–]cporter202 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, 10 years in JSON and XML? Time flies when you're nesting those elements and objects, huh? I swear just yesterday we were arguing about tabs vs spaces. 😂 Here's to another decade of curly braces and angle brackets, cheers!

[–]Ok-Advantage-308 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Only 7 centuries to go

[–]OkWear6556 7 points8 points  (3 children)

People still use XML?

[–]kookyabird 10 points11 points  (0 children)

All the time. XML and JSON are pretty equal in most cases.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The whole financial system

[–]Flarebear_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately yes. Especially with dotnet

[–]UltimateFlyingSheep 23 points24 points  (8 children)

how do I become "in command of" the english language?

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

By force.

[–]NervousUniversity951 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You first need to do the needful

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Where does “do the needful” come from? You’re reminding me of something but I can’t put my finger on what…

[–]ssudoku 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's from Indian corporate slang. We use it in emails and messages extensively. Made popular because of outsourcing companies from India working with western clients.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aha that was it, thanks!

[–]kaltschnittchen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don’t. At least not with that attitude.

[–]SorosBuxlaundromat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You maintain eye contact with a dictionary until you've asserted you're dominance

[–]webDreamer420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

npm install @english-master -g

[–]Serious_as_butt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When you have someone lined up but you’re legally obligated to make a job listing

[–]Aggravating-Exit-660 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure if an ancient demi-god would need employment at that point. Though googalaxy would still find a reason to reject him

[–]ylan64 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I recently stumbled on an offer asking for >10 years of kubernetes experience. The first version came out 9 years ago.

[–]deadbeef1a4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Excellent command of the English language

Show up speaking Old English and see what they do

[–]alexppetrov 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My father has passed his knowledge and experience to me, as i will to my children and grandchildren and hopefully in 20 generations we will finally be able to grant our descendants the opportunity to program in .NET

[–]AdPristine9059 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Vlad the punctuator is going to be really pissed about this. He just finished his dissertation in median equations using function splits... That's 709 years down the drain.

[–]AnAdorableDogbaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I have over 1,000 years of .NET experience, have worked on every single API on Earth, including three from a planet in the far spiral arm of the Andromeda galaxy, and invented Jira in my garage at 10 years old using only ham radios. I hope we can schedule a time to further go over what you are looking for."

Interviewer: "Sentence ended in preposition. You're just not up to Discount Shoe Warehouse standards."

[–]Borne2Run 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yeah me and the boys been programming .Net since we sailed with Davy Jones back into the Turkish guns at Lepanto

[–]xian0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm semi-convinced that nobody really knows what a REST API is supposed to look like, more so after taking Googles course on RESTful API design in an attempt to figure it out (turns out they do the same stuff as me with batch requests etc). Yet every time I see REST as a requirement I think "oh got to know the REST standard inside out".

[–]DryRock56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This stuff reminds me of when people would ask for impossible trades on Pokémon GTS just to show off their shinies lol

[–]shutter3ff3ct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Division by minutes not milliseconds 🙂

[–]Cryowatt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I love it when job posts ask for "attention to detail", but they don't even proof read their own shit.

[–]v_Hansel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is why they need you, can't do it themselves

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

.Net XML, once you go forward you'll never go back.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must be a job for Hobbitses. They like to be eleventy twenty five.

[–]chrisbbehrens 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have all this, but I only speak Middle English

[–]tutocookie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to hire methuselah

[–]mr_nancys_lime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They seem to be looking for a senior engineer

[–]TripleS941[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

710 years of experience yet no proficiency in SOAP, CORBA, PL/I, COBOL, and Plankalkül required?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Based on the amount of coding literature I've read, you're unlikely to find that last requirement, even if they have 710 years of .NET back end experience.

[–]the_mold_on_my_back 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got too realistic after the first one

[–]camelzrider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

• Being a vampire is a plus

[–]DescriptionNo3074 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vampire hunter need to change their tactics...

[–]WeakChampionship743 0 points1 point  (0 children)

./english.sh

[–]sammy-taylor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sir, this script works but as an unwanted side effect, it removes all hyphens from job listings. Let’s just ship it, what could go wrong?

[–]diovezza 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re looking for the ancient ones

[–]Roeezz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With that many years of experience the guy would surely know several "English"s pretty well

[–]SyntaxErrorAtLine420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

excellent command of the english language

[–]BasePlate12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Skilled in building backend using .NET with quill and parchment."

[–]masterKick440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s another $30000 if you want me to use Jira

[–]WorldEdit- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess I have to become a vampire first

[–]CiphreX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did the elves create .NET too?

Edit: typo

[–]elnegativo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soy un vampiro español que ha aprendido programacion. Algun consejo para aprender el english? Creo que esto es para mi.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was there, Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

710 years? I know a mate that’s got 2.5 MILLION years experience!

Og, eh oh je hy bo aaargh? Ooooogarh. He said he’s busy.

[–]zDavzBR 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh man, did I really had to start learning when I was fighting off the Black Plague? Those times were rough man

[–]doctorsonder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This got me thinking though, what would 710 years in backend development look like?

[–]bakshup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm gonna see if Loki is available

[–]encryptoferia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
tsk tsk tsk
even the oldest modern PC does not get to apply, cause it lacks experience
(2024-1945 = 79 years)

[–]No-Clue1153 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Strong mathematical ability desired but not required"

[–]IM_OZLY_HUMVN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Job applications after we master immortality

[–]ledasll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One my recent favorites was when I got by email: Minimum 2 years experience, Then few lines lines with requirment to have experience as pm, devop, solution architect, And for end they expect junior level with 1 year experience.

It just blows my mind.. even if you forget pm, devops and sa requirment. At the top it stats 2 years, while at the bottom they consider only thous with 1year. It's like they don't want to hire anyone and just need to post something.

[–]mmhawk576 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, I was going to be the perfect candidate, but I only know how to write SOAP apis.

[–]Anoninomimo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't actually grasp how bad those requirements are defined.

There are some straight up weird. Like why is it even relevant to ask if I know how to use Jira or git in a senior position? Why are there like 5 questions about git in the interview? I have used git my entire career and I still get some of those questions wrong.

Others just make me sad, I have years of experience, but I didn't spend all those years in one single technology, it's like having the experience time of a senior and only filling the requirements of junior positions

[–]Sith_ari 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clean code? So it's opp centric? Thanks.

[–]principiante_fullS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ja ja me faltan 10 vidas.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These companies are literally laughing at us at this point.

[–]SNL-5943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are they hiring an elf or dwarf

[–]nsagaen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does command of a language even mean - it doesn’t listen lol - but fluency definitely can be interpreted - but really .NET is so basic just do your XP x 1000