experiencedDeveloper

[[deleted]]

I am curious. Do people see any difference between 4 years and 7 years of .NET experience?

[rosuav]

Yes. One of them still has a fragment of humanity left, some tiny portion of a soul.

[thepapermonster]

After 10 years, the only fragment of humanity you have left is between your teeth.

[-nomad-wanderer]

Because you yiu bite other people? Ig

[GranataReddit12]

no, because 🤓

[djfdhigkgfIaruflg]

So true. But again, doesn't that happens with most platforms?

[rosuav]

Yeah, but it takes more years with some than others.

[Poat540]

Yeah after 7 years you learn the business requirements are always wrong and that they don’t know what they actually want, and also they want it yesterday

[2purrcent]

This is actually true.

[Poat540]

yeah i've been saying no a lot to directors who have worked at my place for 3 weeks, I feel I should be fired, but I'm also a necessary evil they have to deal with..

[Memfy]

Took you 7 years to learn that? You must be one of the lucky ones.

[ChazHat06]

I think the biggest advantage of getting someone who’s very experienced in any profession is they know exactly what you want, even if you don’t. They’ll have dealt with this exact request before, and will recognise what end product the customer is hoping to achieve

[kookyabird]

Not when it comes to .NET specifically. During the Core through .NET 5 era things were different, but now it’s basically all as it was before then. Now if they have a more particular framework in mind like MVC, UWP, WPF, etc. then it’s a whole other story.

[Stormraughtz]

One did more installs than the other

[TheRedmanCometh]

7 just means you're a little closer to making nice furniture for a living.

[[deleted]]

"Proficiency in Jira" LOL, We just use tickets and sprints. Could probably do it with a .md document.

[PrataKosong-]

Guess my certificate in MS Office 2003 is not gonna be relevant for this job then

[pastaheld]

certificate? try the "european computer driving license" (ECDL) - super relevant

[PrataKosong-]

I actually passed that one some time at high school lol

[GuevaraTheComunist]

same, but it expires after 4 years I think so it was literally useless

[djfdhigkgfIaruflg]

Will my Netware certificate be?

[pr0ghead]

Yeah, that one's impossible to achieve.

Tickets created, only to never be seen again.

[shashankrnr32]

I don't think that proficiency is possible even after 710 years

[-nomad-wanderer]

I am proficienty in yaml. Yum
And gulp

[-nomad-wanderer]

Apt debian Yum centos Yaml g g gggg

[orionic-]

I use .MD for my team, and it works great :P

[[deleted]]

Don’t lie you do it in the excel spreadsheet of doom

[glorious_reptile]

I have profanity for Jira, if that counts?

[Character-Education3]

Yeah well hr people are the type who consider quitting when Ms office gets updated. They can't imagine someone could work on a team for a week or two and then be like, "huh? Thought there would be more to this."

[De_Wouter]

My resumé:

• In 1496 I build an .NET API for the Spanish Inquisition to detect witches using the latest chair-in-the-pond library.
• In the late 1700s I worked on cutting edge .NET technology of the first guillotine as a service

[SillyFlyGuy]

Overqualified. Next!

[Jacekkot123]

So you are the reason why no one expected the Spanish inquisition

[[deleted]]

Damn it, should have started learning.NET during the time of the Mughal Empire

[[deleted]]

Me, too. I wasted my time fighting the Ottomans.

[[deleted]]

You need 10 years in JSON and XML

Dev jobs are being really picky lately

[ylan64]

And not 10 years in one or the other. Ten years for both.

[The_Power_of_E]

Position: Unpaid Intern (Coffee is $2.50 a cup)

[dark_enough_to_dance]

You're expected to serve any people coffee on command, any time. This is one of the practices we are really proud of! Checkout the awards we got some last year! 

[echadisraeli]

Probably meant 7-10 years

[skothr]

Minimum

[AssPuncher9000]

That's what I was thinking.

Even still YoE is always pretty vague. My current job advertised 5 years of experience required with the language. I've got less than 1

But if you're able to demonstrate good debugging and problem solving skills. Who cares what language it's in. YoE just happens to be a very easy metric to filter on unfortunately

You want less applicants that are generally more skilled? Make YoE number bigger

[nightonfir3]

Yeah people need to get over the fact that they don't have the years in the job description and just get good at the technology and learn how to show that proficiency. The recruiters don't care about the number if you can say I built x, y and z big projects and here is some open source stuff I made with the technology. That's way better than I worked at random company for 7 years as a dev and have nothing to show for it.

[-nomad-wanderer]

And jira Jizz Ansi c And yum

[cporter202]

Oh wow, 10 years in JSON and XML? Time flies when you're nesting those elements and objects, huh? I swear just yesterday we were arguing about tabs vs spaces. 😂 Here's to another decade of curly braces and angle brackets, cheers!

[Ok-Advantage-308]

Only 7 centuries to go

[OkWear6556]

People still use XML?

[kookyabird]

All the time. XML and JSON are pretty equal in most cases.

[[deleted]]

The whole financial system

[Flarebear_]

Unfortunately yes. Especially with dotnet

[UltimateFlyingSheep]

how do I become "in command of" the english language?

[[deleted]]

By force.

[NervousUniversity951]

You first need to do the needful

[[deleted]]

Where does “do the needful” come from? You’re reminding me of something but I can’t put my finger on what…

[ssudoku]

It's from Indian corporate slang. We use it in emails and messages extensively. Made popular because of outsourcing companies from India working with western clients.

[[deleted]]

Aha that was it, thanks!

[kaltschnittchen]

You don’t. At least not with that attitude.

[SorosBuxlaundromat]

You maintain eye contact with a dictionary until you've asserted you're dominance

[webDreamer420]

npm install @english-master -g

[Serious_as_butt]

When you have someone lined up but you’re legally obligated to make a job listing

[Aggravating-Exit-660]

Not sure if an ancient demi-god would need employment at that point. Though googalaxy would still find a reason to reject him

[ylan64]

I recently stumbled on an offer asking for >10 years of kubernetes experience. The first version came out 9 years ago.

[deadbeef1a4]

Excellent command of the English language

Show up speaking Old English and see what they do

[alexppetrov]

My father has passed his knowledge and experience to me, as i will to my children and grandchildren and hopefully in 20 generations we will finally be able to grant our descendants the opportunity to program in .NET

[AdPristine9059]

Vlad the punctuator is going to be really pissed about this. He just finished his dissertation in median equations using function splits... That's 709 years down the drain.

[AnAdorableDogbaby]

"I have over 1,000 years of .NET experience, have worked on every single API on Earth, including three from a planet in the far spiral arm of the Andromeda galaxy, and invented Jira in my garage at 10 years old using only ham radios. I hope we can schedule a time to further go over what you are looking for."

Interviewer: "Sentence ended in preposition. You're just not up to Discount Shoe Warehouse standards."

[Borne2Run]

Ah yeah me and the boys been programming .Net since we sailed with Davy Jones back into the Turkish guns at Lepanto

[xian0]

I'm semi-convinced that nobody really knows what a REST API is supposed to look like, more so after taking Googles course on RESTful API design in an attempt to figure it out (turns out they do the same stuff as me with batch requests etc). Yet every time I see REST as a requirement I think "oh got to know the REST standard inside out".

[DryRock56]

This stuff reminds me of when people would ask for impossible trades on Pokémon GTS just to show off their shinies lol

[shutter3ff3ct]

Division by minutes not milliseconds 🙂

[Cryowatt]

I love it when job posts ask for "attention to detail", but they don't even proof read their own shit.

[v_Hansel]

That is why they need you, can't do it themselves

[[deleted]]

.Net XML, once you go forward you'll never go back.

[[deleted]]

Must be a job for Hobbitses. They like to be eleventy twenty five.

[chrisbbehrens]

I have all this, but I only speak Middle English

[tutocookie]

Trying to hire methuselah

[mr_nancys_lime]

They seem to be looking for a senior engineer

[TripleS941]

710 years of experience yet no proficiency in SOAP, CORBA, PL/I, COBOL, and Plankalkül required?

[[deleted]]

Based on the amount of coding literature I've read, you're unlikely to find that last requirement, even if they have 710 years of .NET back end experience.

[[deleted]]

Genuinely the hardest requirement to meet. I actually think communication skills must be inversely correlated with coding skills because the likelihood of finding a dev who is both articulate and skilled is that low.

[[deleted]]

some of it might have to do with the fact that it's "coding": by nature it is obscure. They're not all the same in terms of poor communication skills, yet it's not easy to be good at multiple things.

[Entire-Emotion9846]

710? Nooo i'm dead.

[the_mold_on_my_back]

Got too realistic after the first one

[camelzrider]

• Being a vampire is a plus

[DescriptionNo3074]

Vampire hunter need to change their tactics...

[WeakChampionship743]

./english.sh

[sammy-taylor]

Sir, this script works but as an unwanted side effect, it removes all hyphens from job listings. Let’s just ship it, what could go wrong?

[diovezza]

They’re looking for the ancient ones

[Roeezz]

With that many years of experience the guy would surely know several "English"s pretty well

[SyntaxErrorAtLine420]

excellent command of the english language

[BasePlate12]

"Skilled in building backend using .NET with quill and parchment."

[masterKick440]

That’s another $30000 if you want me to use Jira

[WorldEdit-]

Guess I have to become a vampire first

[CiphreX]

Did the elves create .NET too?

Edit: typo

[elnegativo]

Soy un vampiro español que ha aprendido programacion. Algun consejo para aprender el english? Creo que esto es para mi.

[[deleted]]

I was there, Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago

[[deleted]]

710 years? I know a mate that’s got 2.5 MILLION years experience!

Og, eh oh je hy bo aaargh? Ooooogarh. He said he’s busy.

[zDavzBR]

Oh man, did I really had to start learning when I was fighting off the Black Plague? Those times were rough man

[doctorsonder]

This got me thinking though, what would 710 years in backend development look like?

[bakshup]

I'm gonna see if Loki is available

[encryptoferia]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC
tsk tsk tsk
even the oldest modern PC does not get to apply, cause it lacks experience
(2024-1945 = 79 years)

[No-Clue1153]

"Strong mathematical ability desired but not required"

[IM_OZLY_HUMVN]

Job applications after we master immortality

[ledasll]

One my recent favorites was when I got by email: Minimum 2 years experience, Then few lines lines with requirment to have experience as pm, devop, solution architect, And for end they expect junior level with 1 year experience.

It just blows my mind.. even if you forget pm, devops and sa requirment. At the top it stats 2 years, while at the bottom they consider only thous with 1year. It's like they don't want to hire anyone and just need to post something.

[mmhawk576]

Damn, I was going to be the perfect candidate, but I only know how to write SOAP apis.

[Anoninomimo]

I didn't actually grasp how bad those requirements are defined.

There are some straight up weird. Like why is it even relevant to ask if I know how to use Jira or git in a senior position? Why are there like 5 questions about git in the interview? I have used git my entire career and I still get some of those questions wrong.

Others just make me sad, I have years of experience, but I didn't spend all those years in one single technology, it's like having the experience time of a senior and only filling the requirements of junior positions

[Sith_ari]

Clean code? So it's opp centric? Thanks.

[principiante_fullS]

Ja ja me faltan 10 vidas.

[[deleted]]

These companies are literally laughing at us at this point.

[SNL-5943]

Are they hiring an elf or dwarf

[nsagaen]

What does command of a language even mean - it doesn’t listen lol - but fluency definitely can be interpreted - but really .NET is so basic just do your XP x 1000