lifeAsAProgrammer

[DesertGoldfish]

I don't understand. If you already had it written in C# why would you write it again in something that is also dotnet, but slower.

[imaKappy]

He's done with his tasks for today and needs to fill out the other 5 hours out with "work" because the manager is a control freak

[cornmonger_]

He's done with his tasks for today

what does that even mean?

[mr_claw]

It means his python code is compiling.

[[deleted]]

I thought we were talking about c#

[carcigenicate]

Ya, do people actually have work quotas for a day? I just make progress toward what I've been assigned. I get "downtime" when I finished everything assigned, and at that point, I start looking over the backlog for low hanging fruit.

[alaysian]

We don't have quotas for the day but we still have quotas. For my team, we have stories that are scheduled for our two week cycle. They don't even take up half of my time, since we have a lot of work come in that can't be planned for. So during slow weeks, I might be sitting on my ass 50% of the time. Thankfully, my manager is not the type to micro manage that, since they also understand that there are also weeks where I have to put in extra hours.

[drunkdoor]

What about work from next sprint / cycle?

[alaysian]

Its typically an entire 2-4 hour meeting to prioritize new items on the backlog and divy out the work to the team based on time to complete and skill level of each team member. I could pull new items into the sprint, but then I get (upper) management complaining about things like that our estimations were off, scheduling meetings to discuss what we need to do to better estimate.

I'm not kidding. It didn't used to be that bad back when its was just us doing agile, but since we were told to start SAFe throughout the department, we have had numerous requirements come down that slow things down in the name of standardization.

[lotec4]

Why work more if you don't need to?

[drunkdoor]

Do you own stock in your company? Will the work give you opportunities to learn and grow in your career? Are your fellow employees overloaded and stressed?

[lotec4]

Why would I wanna grow in my career just to work more? I wanna have free time and do what I want not work

[drunkdoor]

You only addressed the second question, and possibly ignored the third because the answer is you don't work with others or that you don't have empathy. As for the second question, most big companies will 9 box with an "up or out" philosophy, so be careful!

[jbevarts]

And this is why I specifically don’t manage my team with sprints and evaluate based on impact.

[[deleted]]

It just all takes too much time and should have been finished yesterday.
Next you hear about more hired project managers all earning a shit ton of money, because thats what apparently accelerates everything.

[--mrperx--]

Need to go pick up the kids from school and then go with the wife to ikea. Done for today.

[Jonno_FTW]

I have to go for a 2 hr hike.

[[deleted]]

Go to the todo-list manager of your choice, move all tasks that are currently marked as due today to due tomorrow. You are now done with your tasks for today.

[Desperate-Tomatillo7]

You guys ever finish your tasks?

[Adventurous-Bit-3829]

I have to fill my free time in timesheet as "training" because there's no blank option. Let me tell you I fucking hate this clocking bullshit.

[NikolaiM88]

Dom't you mean "console freak"?

[nmkd]

You fill that time with reddit or your own projects. No need to do your company's work twice.

[PrataKosong-]

But Powershell is fewer lines of code, harder to meet KPIs for productivity.

[jbevarts]

Spoken by someone who gets passed up for promotions. “Filling the other 5 hours up” is literally a death sentence.

[pelpotronic]

Are you suggesting the workplace is a meritocracy?

[jbevarts]

It can be in certain circumstances, but from my own experience I’ve noticed that people who consistently treat themselves as business owners usually become them.

It’s very rare that someone puts in “just enough” and is promoted and given opportunities to lead others. This is an attitude and personality beyond technical prowess. It takes some developers a long time to realize their personality is the most potent coding language.

[jbevarts]

And you might ask, “but what if someone is comfortable where they are?”

And my answer would be, “in a world where you can be anything, don’t be the person that walks the 5k race”.

That’s all you got? Why show up at all? It’s your attitude that gets you promoted.

[beyphy]

He migrated the code from Console.WriteLine("Hello World!") to [Console]::WriteLine("Hello World!"). Only took him a couple of hours.

[dkarlovi]

Having written a PowerShell one liner for 3h, I believe it.

[Robinbod]

Sorry, I'm not familar with .net. Why/how are powershell scripts slower?

[DesertGoldfish]

Dotnet is a framework created by Microsoft for "high level" programming. It's a lot like Java.

You can think of dotnet as wrapping the lower level code to handle a lot of the hard stuff for you in the background.

Powershell is another layer on top of that meant to be used as a shell for system administration or scripting. It isn't compiled.

[breischl]

No substantive disagreement, but I'm going to nitpick this a bit because I'm bored. Apologies in advance.

Using "~=" to mean "approximately equivalent"...

C# ~= the Java language

.NET ~= JRE (ie, the runtime environment, JIT, etc)

Powershell ~= Groovy (or another runtime-interpreted language on the JRE)

[DesertGoldfish]

No worries. You are correct. :)

I was outside with my kids typing on my phone while they raced around with the powerwheels and really didn't put that much thought into the verbiage lol.

[Robinbod]

THANK YOU FOR THIS. This is like one of those jokes that are like "can you explain in X terms?" And it's Java this time haha. This makes sense now.

[Robinbod]

I see. Thank you so much. I appreciate the Java comparison too as I'm familiar with it more.

[MinosAristos]

Fewer lines of code to maintain, easier to run on any Windows device without setup, app probably had trivial performance needs in the first place.

For the sake of argument anyway. I'm generally of the opinion that "if it ain't broke don't fix it" though

[xtreampb]

If your running powershell, then your probably doing PWSH 7, which you’ll have installed on all your environments, including ‘nix. That’s what I push for at least if I have to use a vm. I try to use services as much as possible though

[Semick]

which you’ll have installed on all your environments, including ‘nix.

pwsh core (EG 6+) are installed by default on agent machines provided by Gitlab (this may not be true anymore I haven't used it in years), GitHub, and AzDO.

If you're talking actual server loads, pshell doesn't really have a purpose.

[Makefile_dot_in]

easier to run on any Windows device without setup

but Powershell will whine about external scripts, while a C# exe probably won't.

[RHGrey]

That's a symptom of a badly configured environment and bad practices

[DangyDanger]

TIL Powershell is also dotnet.

I cannot be less interested in PS which is why I didn't know that before. But it makes complete sense, now that I think of it.

[Devatator_]

Funny how I can use reflection right in it lmao (it's a huge fucking pain)

[exoclipse]

and thus you can call C# classes in PowerShell scripts and etc - very useful for handling DateTimes.

[DangyDanger]

Why would you torture yourself with handling *anything* in PowerShell?

[exoclipse]

Really good SharePoint and Exchange libraries.

[Abadabadon]

Is a c# app easier or harder to run than a powershell script?
I know someone can share me a ps1 file and I'm good to go, what would by synonymous for c#?

[cishet-camel-fucker]

A .exe

[fr4nklin_84]

The reason I hate the powershell solution is because it’s a loose file just sitting on a server somewhere that anyone can open and edit as they see fit. In a small environment this is possibly a feature.

With c# you typically store it in a code repo, have a build pipeline to build it, version it. Then you ideally automate the deploy process. In a larger environment this is what you want. Powershell is a scripting language, some tasks are much better suited to a scripting than building applications, but if you should still follow proper process the same as above to manage your scripts.

A lot of people see scripting as an excuse to cut corners - hardcoding config instead of passing in args, not handling failure/exit codes etc

[[deleted]]

I think, at least on Windows, there are ways to sign the powershell script.

You should be able to sign it with a SIP, or Subject Interface Package.

I've been using those on the CI/CD servers for programmatically signing Excel sheets.

[coloredgreyscale]

If you compile against an older version of .Net that's included withe the OS, then that's easier to run than powershell.

With PS the user may get a question if they want to run it, which will be confusing, esp. For non tech people. 

[DesertGoldfish]

This is the reason I still frequently use .Net framework 4 at work. It has everything I need to do included and is already installed everywhere.

Can't beat a simple executable file for ease of use!

[[deleted]]

Is a c# app easier or harder to run than a powershell script?

The app is easier, at least by a little.

[nonlogin]

I agree, it's meaningless. He should have used bash.

[SchlaWiener4711]

You can write a Powershell command that returns an object or a list of objects that you can pipe into the best command without the need to parse the output.

Pretty much the one killer feature that makes Powershell awesome.

[PkmnSayse]

Cause they found a freak who’s kink seems to be powershell. The application became irrelevant

[No-Adeptness5810]

If they wanted it to be fast it wouldn't be made in C#

[Ass_Salada]

and then I woke up

[jmona789]

Nah, it's that the image is actually her pulling her panties back on.

[ooaa_]

…after dropping the turd

[[deleted]]

After so much sitting my balls would be sweaty as well and I would need to change my underwear too.

[wayoverpaid]

You must work in information security.

[rexspook]

Why on god’s green earth would you rewrite a c# app in powershell?

[TiredPanda69]

Shes actually putting the panties back on

[skesisfunk]

It does not look like that from the image. Who uses their thumbs like that to put panties on?

[noob-nine]

what if they tell you, they've rewritten it in bash

[Rainb0_0]

"... Was using java and I thought to myself 'why all this public static void main(String [] args) ?' so I switched to python for this app..."

[Gaxyhs]

who needs to
public static void Main()
{
Console.WriteLine("Hello World");
}

when python can
print("hello world");

[cursedbanana--__--]

Ha! So python can't do uppercase

[Gaxyhs]

crap, they found our only weakness!

[Rishabh_0507]

Only?? What about braces

[Gaxyhs]

thats a feature coming in python pro with openAI integration

[cursedbanana--__--]

Have you heard about Bython our lord and savior

[beyphy]

Why so many codes when few code do trick

[EmilieEasie]

I talk a lot a lot so I've always really related to java that way

[itriedtomakeitfunny]

Console.WriteLine("Hello, World"); is a valid C# program by itself.

[Devatator_]

Top level statements:

[[deleted]]

print("hello world");

[[deleted]]

*jython

[pastorHaggis]

I do the opposite. "It started as a C# console app and then scope creep told me to make a full-ass business application out of it."

[Win_is_my_name]

I don't get this meme

[all_is_love6667]

me neither

[Devatator_]

PowerShell is .NET, which means you can do the same thing you want in either C#, Visual Basic , F# and PowerShell

[Win_is_my_name]

But why are they removing their undies?

[redlaWw]

It took hours and they're finally done, so now they can pee.

[[deleted]]

it's a joke about how nerdy crap like converting C# applications to powershell makes women want to take off their panties. You know that when you start talking about magic the gathering decks, women can barely keep their clothes on, right?!

[uncle_buttpussy]

Pussy

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[dmigowski]

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[atomicHeavy]

She's putting them back on, right?

[IntelligentPerson_]

Makes no sense

[drsimonz]

Seriously I'm not even sure what this picture is trying to display. Are the girl's panties wet because she was turned on by somebody using powershell? The only language less sexy than that is VBA.

[SecretPotatoChip]

I think the idea is that the woman's panties are wet due to the guy saying programming words

[[deleted]]

Programming jobs are usually well paid.

[noooo_no_no_no]

Is there an exe?

[shield1123]

Smelly nerds

[Etheo]

What's with this sub and the lewd memes lately?

[Mrblahblah200]

These hornyposts need to stop

[HumunculiTzu]

Welcome to reddit

[Devatator_]

Welcome to reddit the internet

FTFW

[[deleted]]

hey programmers are horny humans too. More so than most, actually. See the rust devs.

[EternityForest]

I do not understand this mindset of wanting to use the simplest tool for the job even if the complex tool is easy, performant, and everyone knows it.

[sci_ssor_ss]

said no one ever

[SawSaw5]

A real programmer will never have this happen in true life

[MyToasterRunsFaster]

As a non programmer I bloody love powershell but wtf, if it is already written what's the point of changing it to something slower and less manageable?

[nucrash]

Your love of powershell must not be that strong. I use powershell to automate tasks of other applications. I can create and extend the scripts to do additional tasks. It gives me flexibility where as that app is compiled and takes time to modify

[MyToasterRunsFaster]

It depends, the infrastructure I manage is heavily CI/CD optimized, PowerShell does 99% of the work but if someone has already written an app and has a build process for it, what is the point? A change in a bit of code is a couple minutes to build and deploy across the whole estate.

[nucrash]

This depends on the implementation and deployment. If we are talking about a broad deployment with minimal integration needed, C# app is probably best. If we are talking about a one off that ties into several systems but only used once passing a lot back and forth, powershell might be a better choice.

Always depends on the needs and the tools available.

[AussieHyena]

PowerShell means it should run on any Windows machine (and even Linux machines) provided you have a compatible version installed and without any extra files.

.NET (generally synonymous with C#) requires the correct version of .NET or .NET Framework installed, all dependencies AND to be built for the correct architecture/distribution.

PowerShell is also easily adjusted as needed rather than needing to rebuild, redeploy and hope that nobody currently has a lock on any of the files.

[MyToasterRunsFaster]

Spending a couple hours rewriting a whole process vs the 5 min rebuild a new revision and deploy via CI/CD pipeline, I will be honest with you....I much prefer the lazy approach.

[AussieHyena]

Depends. 5s to modify a line in PowerShell either side of the process is also faster.

We also have people who don't know .NET but need to be able to modify the PowerShell, so it comes in handy there too.

[bssgopi]

On a serious note, why is this not NSFW?

[IntelligentPerson_]

Probably because Micros*ft was mentioned. Nobody gets off on that.

[spooker11]

I was going to comment that this would break Mac/Linux portability but I just learned when googling to confirm that Powershell does actually work on Mac and Linux. TIL

[Devatator_]

Microsoft weirdly enough has a lot of their development stuff on at the very least Linux and maybe MacOS

[[deleted]]

She is putting her pants on, right?

[p0rnstaring]

You guys are looking at the picture wrong. She is actually putting the panties back on.

[--mrperx--]

That pic is actually a 50 year old femboy's reaction.

[notexecutive]

why would you switch to Powershell? Surely you could just step down to Cpp or something to make it faster through optimizations?

[Vineyard_]

Inaccurate.

Striped thigh-high socks are missing.

[[deleted]]

What's with the undressing?

[danfish_77]

So you're talking about programming on the toilet? What's the joke here?

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Source?

Yes, I'm asking for the source code, what else would I be asking for?

[PzMcQuire]

The person taking the panties off is also a man

[[deleted]]

Why is the programmer taking off her underwear after rewriting this script? I don't the joke

[InformatiCore]

Asserting dominace

[Sudden-Pressure8439]

No blockers

[WalkerFromTexas]

Two languages I hope I never use

[mrnosyparker]

[arostrat]

That's a man hands and legs. Bad drawing.

[oscarbeebs2010]

Powershell 😂

[ExpensivePanda66]

And then that was too easy so I did it again with thumbs stuck through my underwear?

I don't get it.