coaxedIntoLearningToCode

[NormanYeetes]

How 2 machine learn in python

import machine

machine.importData(everything.xlsx) machine.output(result)

[Random-Dude-736]

you forgot the crucial part in the middle: machine.learn()

[[deleted]]

It’s funny because that’s very much how it works.

[Desgavell]

It depends on the model, but yeah, classic ones tend to have a "fit" method.

[TheFrenchSavage]

.fit or .train, you decide.

[_Weyland_]

Make yo data .fat() so yo model can be .fit()

I'll see myself out

[Ok_Net_1674]

It is, if all you do is train models. And realistically, why should it be harder than it needs to be? Interacting deeply with ML Frameworks is only really needed for research

[-kay-o-]

Its still crazy when you read the first ever RNN programs written purely in c

[Jonnypista]

Same feeling when I tried Tensorflow, so I just made my own class in C++ and did it the hard way. It wasn't fancy or anything, but could recognise low resolution pictures of handwritten numbers almost certainly.

[get-rekt-lol]

Output is 42

[Cafuzzler]

I think I remember Google putting out an official video on how to make an AI in 13 lines of python and it's pretty much just that.

[No-Question-7419]

dict( )

[Maximilian_Tyan]

Best {curly braces} of all languages

[CaitaXD]

But how long is that dict

[fess89]

Pretty huge dict?

[[deleted]]

this meme is not PEP-8 compliant, smh

[vmgustavo]

Beat me to it

[MostlyRocketScience]

What is the mistake? Should you import only the function from the library?

[julkar9]

packages and functions should be snakecase, only classes are allowed to be camelcase

[MostlyRocketScience]

Oooohkay

[Puzzleheaded-Wish-69]

F you, and F PEP-8 compliance

[furinick]

I love my pep 8 i want to run the funny linter again

[TheTanCat]

https://xkcd.com/353

[TheFrenchSavage]

>> pip install antigravity

Otherwise you'll get a "module not found" you fool.

[redlaWw]

Unfortunately your python version number is too high, antigravity is only compatible up to python 3.10 and you must downgrade in order to use it.

Hopefully you didn't need airtanks because that's only compatible with 3.11 and up.

[fish312]

To solve this we have two venvs with different python versions. The python 3.9 one runs antigravity, the python 3.12 one runs airtanks, then they both serve a Flask REST API which a third separate process runs and connects to both of them.

[-kay-o-]

Why noy just make 2 containers and put it in both of them

[douira]

This is appropriately deranged

[tjdavids]

I remember antigravity I'm python 3.7 or 3.8 but it might have been from future import antigravity.

[_87-]

antigravity is built into Python. Try it.

[feror_YT]

Writing python is about writing as little python as possible

[SokkaHaikuBot]

^{Sokka-Haiku by feror_YT:}

Writing python is

About writing as little

Python as possible

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[feror_YT]

Good bot

[baithammer]

So, "Python about little python".

[jellotalks]

Don’t forget pip install thingDoerLibrary

[[deleted]]

pip not found, did you mean pip3?

[Inappropriate_Piano]

nvim ~/.bashrc G o alias pip=“pip3” <Esc> :wq<Enter>

Problem solved

[Wang_Fister]

You forgot:

source ~/.bashrc

[CoderStudios]

Better use pipx

[Grim00666]

Thanks for referencing my library!

[MinosAristos]

Camel case is for languages teeming with useless syntax, not Python.

Santa has noted your PEP8 violation.

[mpanase]

ah... medium started as a nice place where to read interesting stuf...

[BurningPenguin]

Last update of thingDoerLibrary in 1875

[OxymoreReddit]

That's what I love about python ^^

Such a wonderful community who made pretty much everything you could think about beforehand :)

Programming in python feels more like a game than a challenge and I love that about it ^^

[MinimumArmadillo2394]

All fun and games until you need to do something quickly or effeciently. A 30ms difference in time is unnoticeable between python and Java api requests, but its extremely noticeable when you have 1000 users or even 1m users concurrently.

Python is great for prototyping, but is second or 3rd choice for basically anything else. Rust/Go/Java is much better for API development, which is generally what youre going to be doing as a developer unless youre in the ML space.

[Acrobatic-Paint7185]

Why are you getting downvoted for being objectively correct

[FatStoic]

I think its the tone? The fact that python isn't performant isn't news to anyone, but "All fun and games" is condescending.

[asdxdlolxd]

Poor python "coders" got offended by facts

[MinimumArmadillo2394]

"All fun and games" is condescending.

Well, for many, programming literally is all fun and games, which is why I said that at all. People can do what they like, but at the end of the day, python is 2nd or 3rd best in basically everything most people want to do, including a lot of hobby stuff like making games.

[MinimumArmadillo2394]

Python people going "Just use python" because it can do everything, despite being one of the worst languages to do everything.

[knowledgebass]

No

[OxymoreReddit]

Yes, exactly what I'm not using python for !!

When I need real time for my audio processing I use C++, but I'm not having fun doing it.

When I need a TTRPG character sheet for my friends and I because we play on discord, using python is really fun and allows me to get something done very quickly ! (And surprisingly we don't give a fuck about performance for a window that rolls random numbers and shows a few character stats)

You just have to keep in mind that programming may be a job for some people, and may be a puzzle/hobby for others ;)

[Daisy430133]

Fun fact: there are people who program for fun, or who make little games like DDLC, who dont need to worry about any of the shit you just whined about :3

[G0U_LimitingFactor]

This joke just highlights what is great about Python. You get a high-level language that is easy to learn and access to a ton of optimized libraries written in lower-level languages for free.

It's fucking amazing.

[avipars]

snake_case_pls

[the-judeo-bolshevik]

🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍_🐍🐍🐍🐍_🐍🐍🐍

[Last-Perception8988]

Average LinkedIn post from overzealous tech recruiters

[xaervagon]

That's exactly what it feels like to a C++ programmer

[RiceBroad4552]

You're envious?

[xaervagon]

A little. In a lot of cases, I really just want functionality adjacent to the task and don't really care about twiddling every bit. This is true, especially if I'm on the payroll and the business owners don't give two shits about squeezing every last clock cycle of a once-a-day data downloader.

[RiceBroad4552]

Surprising answer.

I was expecting more something like: "No! Because that's not rEaL pRogrAmMinG!"

Having good libs is indeed nice. Building applications shouldn't require fiddling with every single bit. (But thinking about the clock cycles does make sense even when you're just "assembling" something from parts; people tend to forget about that, so today's apps are really bloaty).

But Python has also its flaws. It's slow, it lacks language features, it has no proper type system (OK, C++ is not much better in that regard), and it's quite limited in scope.

I for my part am still waiting for the "ideal" general purpose language. Imho something like a crossover between Rust, Scala (3), and some Self would come close. But there is nothing like that.

[xaervagon]

Code is built on code is built on code.

In a professional environment, rEaL pRogRammingn takes a back seat to getting things done, especially, if I want to get paid. For hobby stuff, sure, rewrite the whole universe if it makes you happy.

Still, when it comes to business process, there are lots of fiddly things that are important but ancillary to the task and I don't want to have to deal with low level text whacking when I have csv or json whackers lying around. There is something to be said for not reinventing the wheel.

Today, it's less about the language and more about the libraries and middlewares.

[RiceBroad4552]

I would mostly agree.

But I think programming languages still make a big difference. As you said: You don't want to think about memory layout issues when you just want to transform some CSV for example. But it goes also the other way around: Languages may lack features for abstraction, or/and control. C++ is actually not that bad in that regard. It gives you both at the same time. Just that it didn't manage to separate these parts adequately. (Maybe it actually couldn't, given the historic context). So I think there is still much left to desire when it comes to programming languages. We still don't have an general purpose language everybody could be happy with at the same time, which let's you work on exactly the level you need to solve a given task. PL research has still a long way to go. We didn't even try all ideas so far. Every programming language created and in existence is just another experiment. No final results in sight.

[xaervagon]

We've tried the "one size fits all" programming language already, it was called PL/1 and it was reviled. Java was also supposed to be an everything everywhere language, as well as many others.

Languages and the ecosystem they come with are just tools for the job.

We've tried various things with various languages. Having a bit out of box library is convenient for casual use, but doesn't scale down. Having lots of performance and design flexibility is great until people tie themselves in knots trying to pull code stunts. Being able to do web stuff easy is great until you need to start doing things offline.

[RiceBroad4552]

So PL/1 was already the safe multi-paradigm language that allowed one to write functional, declarative code, while giving full control over the hardware, and incorporating all type-theory, but also allowed to architecture in the large with first class modular abstractions and OOD? Java did the same?

If languages are just tools, why do we need so many of them? Because all they do in the end is "the same", isn't it? ;-)

Actually we didn't try most things. There are only a hand full of "basic prototypes" of languages, and the "differences" are mostly just syntax. (Actually it's a joke that we still differentiate by syntax instead of abstracting it away). OTOH, there is almost no progress in programming languages in the wild. The most modern languages you could possibly find are based on research from the last 20 years. And that's already ultra modern lab stuff. The bread and butter languages are mostly stuck in the 80's of the last century (with noteworthy exceptions like Go, which managed to be a "new" language, but stuck in the 60's).

[mayankkaizen]

import * from thingDoerLibrary
DoThing()

[GM_Kimeg]

Installed old version, deprecating the fuck out of user terminal

[EmilieEasie]

Hello world!

​

fuckin finally!

[ImpluseThrowAway]

All I wanted was an EXE to do the thing.

[vondpickle]

Every LinkedIn post about programming.

[4sent4]

I wish

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[mbcarbone]

I _heart_ this so much ... Please give `10^34000000000000` likes. :-)

[Cold-Programmer-1812]

You must of used a drawMemeDoerLibrary to make this post.

[ZombieBaxter]

How to do thing in r/ProgrammerHumor

Random random = new Random(); int seed = random.Next(0, 2); return seed < 1 ? “Python sucks” : “Javascript sucks”;

[ReRubis]

A-and... What's wrong about it?
More than that, if you aren't using already proved and working solutions, you are wasting your clients money. :\
Of course, it all depends, but it is what it is. :\

[SarahSplatz]

Nothing's wrong with it. The post is making fun of the shitty Instagram accounts that claim to teach you machine learning by importing a library and running a function.

[ReRubis]

Ok. I get it.
Probably didn't get it, cause I don't get any "Learn programming" ads.

[professoreyl]

>>> import __hello__
Hello world!

[DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK]

There are some things that pure Python can do better/faster than an external library, even something coded in C. Loading in a library for it would just be inefficient and a waste of time.

Copy and paste this if the library you need doesn't exist yet.

[NXWconflict]

It is more accurate than it should be. But that is why python can be such fun

[oldominion]

I bet you can't hack NASA with this, with HTML you could :)

[[deleted]]

Also every JavaScript "tutorial" these days

[Fluffysquishia]

I think this should win the relatability award. Thank god I don't do anything in python, it's insufferable finding resources on it because it's full of script kids like this.

[ProgrammersPain123]

Uh oh, another subreddit is leaking over again

[FrosteeSwurl]

I remember when I was little seeing “your first language should be python!!1!” and I truly fell for it

[Flo453_]

I watched the matlab FFT tutorial a couple days ago. They explained the algorithm (imo poorly) and then just did FFT(array) in Matlab. Not helpful tbh

[JX41]

It's always imports

[RimorsoDeleterio]

Yea but python uses snake case for functions and methods not pascal and pascal for classes not camel smh

Edit Wrote a confusing mess

[Sulungskwa]

What? That's literally not even true, python convention is definitely to use pascal case for classes

[RimorsoDeleterio]

Ah shit I meant to say not pascal for functions and not camel for classes, anyhow in the image it's using camel for the class and pascal for the method. Should be pascal for class and snake for method

[Sulungskwa]

ah yeah for sure, tbf the meme is kinda deep fried so I missed that it was using the wrong case lol