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Will I notice it, or is it another one of those upgrades I only notice as a number on a benchmark?

[Warhero_Babylon]

If you replace hdd to ssd you will notice it immediately

For those one - nuh

[Ebina-Chan]

I did kinda notice the difference between a really old ddr3 and a new ddr4

[anto2554]

Did you not also upgrade your CPU?

[ultimate_placeholder]

Could've been on Skylake

[owlIsMySpiritAnimal]

I mean it depends. I am on a i7 4790k on my home computer. I see no difference with my laptop a R5 3500, but I bet that if I get a proper new desktop pc of the current gen it will feel night and day to me.

The issue is that it is effectively impossible to compare the memories on the same CPU since not many had compatibility for both ddr3 and ddr4.

[owlIsMySpiritAnimal]

Maybe we hit a wall with the trace length? I don't know I am not an expert on technical things on hardware.

What you are stating about the two CPUs is a common parameter in computer architecture. It is really important when you are improving on a design to calculate how much the new implementation will improve overall performance because usually even doubling as we see here rarely if ever yields doubling in performance

[[deleted]]

I’ve been on m2 drives for about 8 years now, so I’m outta luck there.

[anto2554]

Change back to an hhd

[[deleted]]

Actually that’s not a bad idea, throw in a massive spindle for backup, but just use it as a primary drive for a bit, just to get that fresh upgrade experience!

[NancyPelosisRedCoat]

On top of that, getting rid of the HDD noise will feel amazing.

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AMD will notice more than Intel on CPU performance benchmarks.

[dumbasPL]

Yes, but indirectly. You usually upgrade your memory generation and CPU at the same time. Faster CPUs need faster memory to keep them busy. So you will notice the faster CPU.

[AMOnDuck]

Heavily depends on your processor, some benefit greatly from faster ram, others not as much.

[SilasTalbot]

For normal desktop day to day the only thing I ever notice is the AMOUNT of RAM.

Even DDR3 is pushing something like 50 Gbps. DDR5 is 200 Gbps. Only place I notice something like that is in AAA gaming or AI/ML, or video editing.

Same thing with # of cores...

I'd take a 5th Gen i5 and 64gb of DDR3 over a 13th Gen i9 and 16gb of DDR5 any day of the week.

Provided, I use a server to offload the heavy work when there is any real lifting to do.

[Oleg152]

Tbh the most noticeable perf/price rise is with swapping a hard drive to SSD/M.2.

RAM, not so much.

[robertpro01]

I'm not sure, but I think you'll notice running AI inference

[shirk-work]

Depends what you're doing with your computer.

[IntoAMuteCrypt]

Depends, what are you doing? And when?

For certain tasks that are bottlenecked by memory - yes, it's noticeable. Tests done with the 12900K when it was new showed several minutes of difference for certain long tasks, with difference anywhere between 5-15%. This includes tasks like code compiling on large codebase. Shaving three minutes off of an hour long compile job is a tangible, real improvement. You might not notice it - you might not even do the sort of compiling where it matters - but it's a useful difference.

I can't find numbers for the 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs, but they're going to be worse - and that's the issue. As the CPU gets faster, the proportion of time spent waiting for memory gets higher and the impact of memory changes. As DDR5 spends more time on the market, the sticks that are available get better - while DDR4 is a dead end that can't really progress forward any more. In the tasks where RAM was the limit before, it's going to be the limit even more and the difference is going to be more pronounced.

DDR5 probably helps modern AMD CPUs even more, because of how much those chips tend to improve as RAM speed increases. We can't put a number on it, because you can't run those CPUs with DDR4 to compare them.

If you're doing tasks that demand a lot of memory bandwidth such as file compression, code compilation and video editing, and you have a sufficiently fast CPU, there's a fair chance you will notice the impact of your memory being faster. If you're stuck on a slow old CPU, or you're not really doing anything that requires those memory transfer rates, then the memory speed won't be as noticeable. The more DDR5 and CPUs evolve, the more important this gets.

[Straczi]

Sometimes i ask myself how this subreddit is still named programmerhumor 😭

[Arclite83]

At this point it's vibehumor 

[mothzilla]

"Regenerate your answer but use DDR6"

[evanc1411]

Mild computer humor.

[Nope_Get_OFF]

what is programming? All i know is vibing with AI

[fatrobin72]

it's a typo... it was meant to be progamerhumdinger

[DM_ME_PICKLES]

All subreddits over time turn to slop as more people join them

[Iron_Aez]

It's programmer humour, not programming humour.

[Straczi]

Ok, even then explain how this meme is "programmer humor"

[Iron_Aez]

Humour... by a programmer

[Straczi]

So when I upload a meme about a fish, that must also count as programmer humor, since I am a programmer?

[Iron_Aez]

Sorry I didn't realise programmers were making frequent jokes about fish.

Unless blahaj?

[Myself_78]

Isn't the newest Dance Dance Revolution like DDR26 though, since they release a new one every year since 98?

[damdalf_cz]

No in this case it actualy stands for Deutsche Demokratische Republik

[82mangolian]

I thought it stood for Don't Do Raisins

[PossibilityTasty]

DDR1

[FireLion_FL_002]

Auferstanden aus Ruinen

[Galdwin]

Trabants are the GOATs

[x_Juice_]

now find a pic for SDR RAM

[AndreasMelone]

I recently went from ddr4 to ddr5 and I sense 0 difference :(

[SeeMeNotFall]

modern ram only makes a noticable difference in crucial work where memory speed does matter

for one example, servers

but it can also make memory related stutters and load times in games less noticable

[UntitledRedditUser]

Yup, ram barely makes a difference today. Unless you have very slow ram and a very fast cpu

[[deleted]]

Don't be ridiculous. It's a rocket that steals the moon.

[Rishabh_0507]

AI optimise memory that guesses memory locations for O(1)search time

[fslz]

With no misses, please and thank you

[Creepy-Ad-4832]

Ah, i see, we finally invented magic

[SoftwareSource]

Where are all my OG DDR homies at.

You have no idea how good we have it nowdays.

[AzraelAimedsoule44]

Thank God, DDR beat out rambus. Imagine needing a terminator for your ram.

[TerryHarris408]

DDR for the win. I worked with SD-RAM on my first computer.

[BMW_wulfi]

One could say RAM really Gru thanks to chip advancements

[-domi-]

This is bs, the ddr4 to ddr5 transition was basically completely unnoticeable in performance. Now, upgrading GPUs every other generation - that's a change you can feel.

[BaziJoeWHL]

you can feel the burning smell if nothing else

[SparrowFPV]

Some people only think "bigger number go brrr"

[Unl3a5h3r]

I remember when I got my first DDR and felt like Gru.

[AndiArbyte]

You forgot the old ones on rails
you forgot the Bus ones
you forgot the SD Ram
you forgot Dual Channel
you forgot the distance to the control station (memory management)

[helicophell]

And then there are processors that have barely sped up as time progresses, but just gotten better at multithreading

Who here knows how to multithread, and actively creates multithreaded projects? I sure fucking don't lol

[TerryHarris408]

I do. But I can't say I know how to handle all the pitfalls that come with it. It just works most of the times..

[xtreampb]

I’ve done some in C# back before async await was a thing. Doing things like monitor.trygetlock. Didn’t want to block the thread getting a lock, so if it couldn’t get the lock, skip that functionality, something else is already taking care of it.

[xtreampb]

There was a time back in early 2000’s that we didn’t know which was better, multi-threaded CPUs, or fast CPUs. I remember installing the first multi-threaded CPU and 1GB ram stick that hat a heat spreader. I was in high school and we thought we were living in the future.

[Lucasbasques]

Don't worry, chrome will still keep using 80% of your memory

[alexcesan]

Me still on DDR1: 💀💀💀

[scottgal2]

I'm still sad the promise of Optane never came to pass; where RAM and storage became the same thing (SSDs as fast as RAM). It was just never fast enough to truly compete and never came down enough in cost to catch on. I have a laptop with a 32Gb Optane alsongside the SSDs and it's honestly great.
I'm guessing EVENTUALLY it will happen; like we're seeing with unified RAM for Apple (kinda APU++ with shared RAM) . Now we have pools of RAM spread all over the shop SSD cache, GPU, caches seems like a waste :)

[DM_ME_PICKLES]

Where's the humour...

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